Contest rules too restrictive

Sean · 12-18-06, 03:04 PM

Thanks for your input. So many different factors go into establishing rules for contests such as BTP: promoting SBR Forum; promoting the sponsor; encouraging discourse amongst posters; preventing contest abuse; etc. The point is that the rules were not arbitrary ... there are reasons behind them. However, I and the rest of SBR will always admit that we have plenty of room for improvement. With that said, we will take into account your ideas as well as the numerous other suggestions received when establishing the rules and guidelines for future contests. Thanks Philly713!

MickChunky · 12-18-06, 04:40 PM

So, Philly are you saying if you win and don't pay the $100 deposit, you forfeit any bonus winnings through the season? Or are you saying you didn't sign up with Cris at the beginning?
I thought the rules stated if that was the case you were not eligible for the season grand prizes. Forgive me if I'm misunderstanding you. I feel the rules are very fair and I didn't get in until a month ago (wish I would have joined sooner), I finally beat the prick this week. Seems simple to me though; Sign up early in the season/ read the rules/ create a Cris account/ beat the prick/ pay your deposit/ claim your winnings/ beat the prick again/ claim your winnings again/ repeat.

Aces · 12-18-06, 04:57 PM

Not to mention coming up with the money on short-term notice (three days after the first win)

$100

imgv94 · 12-18-06, 05:08 PM

Rules are fair IMO..

rta21 · 12-18-06, 08:05 PM

agreed

taurus · 12-19-06, 09:47 AM

Originally posted by imgv94

Rules are fair IMO..

I second that.

r2d2 · 12-19-06, 11:30 AM

rules are way fair, great contest (that sbr and cris didnt have to do at all), and if you have to struggle to come up with a $100, you may need to re-evaluate why you gamble in the first place.

HAPPY BOY · 12-19-06, 11:48 AM

Rules are fine easy to follow and very very fair. Love Cris and SBR for the BTP contest. Enjoyed it last year, loved it so far this year. Since I don't know who to personally thank Ill just say Props to all involved, and especially to the Prick my degerate sorry capping ,scotch drinking, strip club frequenting going to hell right behind me in line friend smoooooch!

ivyconniver · 12-19-06, 11:49 AM

How could you think this isn't fair? They don't even make you put the $100 in until AFTER YOU'VE ALREADY WON. If you're so worried, just put the $100 in and let it sit there for the duration of the tourny.

BigDaddy · 12-19-06, 11:54 AM

threads like these are why this contest should be for those that actually gamble this is the best contest around and people bitch about the dummest fucking things

Philly713 · 12-19-06, 09:04 PM

I personally was not insinuating the contest was completely unfair and apologize if it seemed that way. I am making a suggestion and hoping to clear the air for others understanding. The $100 wasn't the primary issue here for me anyways, my problem was realizing and understanding the rules fully until after winning a week. After I won "beat the prick" early on, I decided to thoroughly read the rules (I had already signed up for the account but did not make a deposit immediately due to minimal funding). By the time I received my e-mail confirming my $200 good news (or so I thought was), it was too late in the week to make the $100 deposit! I believe that was a Friday or Saturday morning after the winnings. I wrote to the "rules committee" and found out that any future winnings this year anyways will be forfeited because I did not make the initial hundred dollar deposit after the first winning-therefore I simply suggested (and still do) that exceptions might be made under these circumstances or if someone is unable to come up with the $100 within that three day window (so to speak. I hope that clears up any misunderstandings-I may have caused & also hope it is still given more consideration for the future! The rules are 99 percent fair ...just make sure you understand them before starting! And to go one step further: if you really want my interest in the contest and having promotions lead to regular gamblers ... keep it opened for a follow-up deposit option or something ... not criticism, food for thought right?

LLXC · 12-19-06, 09:50 PM

Ouch. So since you won once but did not deposit, you can't ever win again, even if you deposit the Thursday before next week? I guess if you didn't win, you're still okay?

thezbar · 12-19-06, 10:42 PM

For me the btp contest has been the highlight of a disappointing football season.The rules are fair.I have joined betcris because of this promotion which I most likely would not have otherwise.Props to sbr and betcris

MickChunky · 12-19-06, 11:20 PM

Originally posted by Philly713

By the time I received my e-mail confirming my $200 good news (or so I thought was), it was too late in the week to make the $100 deposit! I believe that was a Friday or Saturday morning after the winnings. I wrote to the "rules committee" and found out that any future winnings this year anyways will be forfeited because I did not make the initial hundred dollar deposit after the first winning-therefore I simply suggested (and still do) that exceptions might be made under these circumstances or if someone is unable to come up with the $100 within that three day window (so to speak.

7) Prizes: Before being eligible to claim any prize(s) listed, contestants must make a one-time minimum deposit of $100 USD into their BetCRIS account, regardless of any previous or current balance, no later than 10:00 p.m. (ET) on the Thursday after the FIRST time they are declared a weekly winner. Failure to do so will result in disqualification of contestant's eligibility for any season-ending grand prizes.

By not depositing the $100 in time should not have disqualified you for the weekly prizes, it should only cause you to forfeit any grand prizes such as the superbowl trip or a polo shirt. If you are saying you can't deposit now and claim your bonus if you beat the prick, the rules do not state that. I may be confused here since I have not experienced this, I deposited when I won. You should still be elidgible for your bonus if you BTP, if not, maybe that rule needs to be looked at closer.

Sean · 12-20-06, 12:52 AM

The rules do not state, nor do I believe that anyone was ever informed that they would not be eligible for future WEEKLY prizes if they failed to make a deposit after their first win. That applies to the SEASON-ENDING prizes as stated in the rules.

SBR_John · 12-20-06, 01:08 AM

We will try to improve the contest next year with a keen eye on simplicty of rules. The BTP contest should be fun and easy to follow including the rules.

Illusion · 12-20-06, 02:57 AM

Originally posted by imgv94

Rules are fair IMO..

Yes they are, but suggestions are always welcome. Keep them coming guys.

pags11 · 12-20-06, 04:45 AM

these rules are extremely fair...get with the program bud...

kdmfox · 12-20-06, 05:24 AM

There would have been total chaos if the rule about a deposit
after each win wasn't rescinded ... I can't quite remember who the

was that squawked about that ... hehe

fernando · 12-20-06, 06:12 PM

great contest. keep it up.

Philly713 · 12-20-06, 07:53 PM

All I know as I was told by betcris telephone operator that I was ineligible for any prizes whatsoever after I missed the opportunity to collect any bonus money AFTER MY INITIAL WIN ONLY!! THEY SAID I WAS INELIGIBLE FOR ANYMORE $200 WEEKLY CONTEST FROM THAT POINT ON-BECAUSE I WAS A FEW DAYS LATE IN MAKING A DEPOSIT OF $100 OR MORE. PLEASE CHECK INTO THIS FOR ME FOR FUTURE REFERENCE OKAY? I felt like being shut out-but still played anyways. That is the way the rules read according to the person I spoke to-thank you

kdmfox · 12-20-06, 08:00 PM

My experience with cs reps are that if you talk to 5 different ones at the same place you will get 5 different answers.

joe blow · 12-21-06, 01:56 PM

I like to see one rule change in the contest.That every poster whos name starts with a J,starts with 1 point.

Happy holidays

alta · 12-23-06, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by kdmfox

My experience with cs reps are that if you talk to 5 different ones at the same place you will get 5 different answers.

amen!

alta · 12-23-06, 11:24 AM

Originally posted by Philly713

All I know as I was told by betcris telephone operator that I was ineligible for any prizes whatsoever after I missed the opportunity to collect any bonus money AFTER MY INITIAL WIN ONLY!! THEY SAID I WAS INELIGIBLE FOR ANYMORE $200 WEEKLY CONTEST FROM THAT POINT ON-BECAUSE I WAS A FEW DAYS LATE IN MAKING A DEPOSIT OF $100 OR MORE. PLEASE CHECK INTO THIS FOR ME FOR FUTURE REFERENCE OKAY? I felt like being shut out-but still played anyways. That is the way the rules read according to the person I spoke to-thank you

You should have brought it to Sean's attention right after that conversation with the betcris cs rep. The forum "mods" are the key to any contest rules and winnings.

taurus · 12-26-06, 05:25 PM

Originally posted by joe blow

I like to see one rule change in the contest.That every poster whos name starts with a J,starts with 1 point.

Happy holidays

joe - - That's Funny.

crackerjack · 12-28-06, 03:10 PM

Originally posted by thezbar

For me the btp contest has been the highlight of a disappointing football season.The rules are fair.I have joined betcris because of this promotion which I most likely would not have otherwise.Props to sbr and betcris

I'd have to agree with this post wholeheartedly. For a $100 investment, I have had a fun and exciting football season thanks to this contest. Financially I was unable to bet on games this season but I at least had eight games to route on (my picks and anti-Prick picks). I won one weekend and finished miserably in the bottom 25 of 300 participants. Yet it was a blast. ALWAYS read the rules before you enter any contest...

crackerjack · 12-28-06, 03:13 PM

I should also mention that I have played at Bowmans, WSEX and Pinnacle and like them all, but BetCris will get my money if I am able to get into a position financially to get back in the game (so to speak). And it's solely due to this contest.