Round 2 ~ SuicideKings vs Wangchiu ~

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  • Dexter
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 12-24-08
    • 25829

    #1
    Round 2 ~ SuicideKings vs Wangchiu ~
    OK Guys - continue to send back your confirmations to me. Here are the rules myself and suicideking have come up with. Lets all do well, as i've tried to construct this towards the weighted gambling approach that i love to use. With the rules in place, these plays should mirror what you are actually wagering each day. Win or lose, this contest should teach you all about the beauty of weighted gambling with sound money management (no chasing)
    • Each player will have a starting bankroll of 60 units, and you must make a minimum of 50 plays for the round (no max). however, each day you can only play 15% of your starting bankroll for the day. ie, if you have 30 units going into a day, you may only wager 4.5 units for that day which can be broken up however you choose. This will eliminate chasing, and will hopefully help us all use better proper money management techniques for our real world wagers.<o></o>>
    • ****Since we have no official score keeper, it is up to you to keep track of your record AND your opponents. This will be our only obstacle for having a clean tourney, so pay attention to the following rules. Each day, both of the participants should be noting the results of the prior day, along with the net total bankroll (do it for your opponent as well so you have an extra pair of eyes). If its noticed that the results/lines etc from past days are incorrect, they can obviously should corrected at any time. However that will not have an affect on any units bet on games after that (the 15% daily limit). If the results from the prior day are posted correctly, however a player goes over the 15% limit for the day, the opponent (or any other sbr member) has until the next days first pitch to report the error. If reported in time, ALL BETS made that day are cancelled for the person who broke the 15% rule.<o></o>
    • all lines will be the opening consensus from sbr (far left), and plays must be posted 5 minutes before the start time of the first day game/night game (anything before 6:00 eastern is considered a day game) ie, if the first game is at 1:05 eastern, the plays for all afternoon games must be posted by NO LATER then 1pm. Night games will be considered anything that starts at 6pm eastern and forward. So for a normal night with 7:05 first pitch, those plays for all night game (including west coast) must be in by 7:00. a lot can happen in the first few at bats, so make sure these picks are in on time.<o></o>
    • all bets must be for the full game and can consist of moneyline, runlines or totals. No reverse run lines.<o></o>
    • we will be betting the team, not the pitcher - so a late scratch of the pitcher stands unless you cancel the bet prior to first pitch (here you can cancel a west coast game if your pitcher is scratched)<o></o>
    • no posts can be edited<o></o>
    • ML = moneyline - RL = run line. When betting a total, make sure you assign the proper money line per SBR. On the totals, over/under section – you will see a total mentioned with a 2 moneylines next to it. The top moneyline is if you take the over, the bottom is if you take the under.<o></o>
    • If there happens to be a tie after 6/11 has concluded. Each player will have to make 5 picks on 6/12, all for 1 unit each. If that doesn’t end the tie, then the same thing the next day, and so on.<o></o>

    *once you are down to 0 units, you have lost the match.<o></o><o></o>
    additionally, the 15% rule pertains to just your units bet for that day - meaning its not based on *potential* returns (from underdogs) or *potential* losses from favorites.
    ie....you have 9 units to bet today.

    4x mets -200
    2x giants -150
    3x cards +180
    <!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]-->
    <!--[endif]-->*note how im not factoring the line into my 9 units allowed for the day. hope thats clear.
    <o></o>
    Added Rule - if a game is called for rain (but if *official* after 5 inn) we will only count the side and not the total. the total is a push regardless if you're over got there, or if you're under lost.

    So based on 30 days per round, plus one tiebreak day, the start/end dates for the rounds are:

    Rd 2: June 11 - July 10, July 11 tiebreaker
    July 12 - August 10, August 11 tiebreaker
    August 12 - September 10, September 11 tiebreaker
  • suicidekings
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 03-23-09
    • 9962

    #2
    Good luck Wangchiu.
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    • wangichu
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 11-07-08
      • 946

      #3
      Originally posted by suicidekings
      Good luck Wangchiu.
      you too man. let's make some money.
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      • wangichu
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 11-07-08
        • 946

        #4
        Thurs 6/11

        LAA ML +127 (2 units)
        NYM ML +101 (1 unit)
        TEX -1.5 +125 (1 unit)
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        • suicidekings
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 03-23-09
          • 9962

          #5
          Friday, June 12

          1) LAD (-105) @ TEX, 2u
          2) NYM (+181) @ NYY, 1u
          3) FLO @ TOR, RL -1.5 (-118), 1u
          4) FLO @ TOR, Over 8 (+100), 1u

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          • suicidekings
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 03-23-09
            • 9962

            #6
            Lines are from 5Dimes. SBR opening lines are not posted yet. I'll adjust the scoring accordingly.
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            • suicidekings
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 03-23-09
              • 9962

              #7
              Originally posted by suicidekings
              Friday, June 12

              1) LAD (-106) @ TEX, 2u
              2) NYM (+189) @ NYY, 1u
              3) FLO @ TOR, RL -1.5 (-117), 1u
              4) FLO @ TOR, Over 8 (+103), 1u

              Adding:

              5) OAK (+142) @ SF, 1u
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              • wangichu
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 11-07-08
                • 946

                #8
                Originally posted by wangichu
                Thurs 6/11

                LAA ML +127 (2 units)
                NYM ML +101 (1 unit)
                TEX -1.5 +125 (1 unit)
                down a quick 4 units to 56 units

                0-3
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                • wangichu
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 11-07-08
                  • 946

                  #9
                  Friday 6/12

                  PIT ML +123
                  OAK ML +142
                  COL ML -136
                  CHW ML +122

                  all 2 units.
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                  • suicidekings
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 03-23-09
                    • 9962

                    #10
                    Friday Results

                    1) LAD (-106) @ TEX, 2u LOSE
                    2) NYM (+189) @ NYY, 1u LOSE $#&%!
                    3) FLO @ TOR, RL -1.5 (-117), 1u LOSE
                    4) FLO @ TOR, Over 8 (+103), 1u WIN
                    5) OAK (+142) @ SF, 1u[/quote] LOSE

                    Day Record, Net Units, MTD Record, Current Bankroll
                    1-4-0, -4.26u, 1-4-0, 55.74u
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                    • wangichu
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 11-07-08
                      • 946

                      #11
                      Originally posted by wangichu
                      down a quick 4 units to 56 units

                      0-3
                      wow... down another 4 units to 52. I have to take my time to cap better than i did yesterday.

                      1-6
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                      • wangichu
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 11-07-08
                        • 946

                        #12
                        Saturday 6/13

                        CHW ML +114 (3 units)
                        FLA ML +129 (1 units)
                        LAD ML +113 (1 unit)
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                        • suicidekings
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 03-23-09
                          • 9962

                          #13
                          Saturday, June 13

                          6) WAS @ TB, Over 9 (-131)
                          7) BOS @ PHI, Over 9.5 (-122)
                          8) LAD (+113) @ TEX

                          All 1 unit

                          Both of those overs have moved a lot overnight, each to O 10. I wish I'd made my actual bets last night...
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                          • wangichu
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 11-07-08
                            • 946

                            #14
                            SAT 6/13

                            adding COL ML -107 (1 unit)
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                            • wangichu
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 11-07-08
                              • 946

                              #15
                              Originally posted by wangichu
                              Saturday 6/13

                              CHW ML +114 (3 units)
                              FLA ML +129 (1 units)
                              LAD ML +113 (1 unit)
                              COL ML -107(1 unit)
                              52 + 6.84 = 58.84 units total

                              5-6 ... much better

                              -1.16 net gain.
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                              • wangichu
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 11-07-08
                                • 946

                                #16
                                SUN 6/14

                                NYM ML +110 (2 units)
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                                • wangichu
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 11-07-08
                                  • 946

                                  #17
                                  NYM ML +110 (2 units)

                                  FLA ML +106 (1 unit)
                                  PHI ML +118 (1 unit)
                                  KC ML +110 (1 unit)
                                  Comment
                                  • suicidekings
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 03-23-09
                                    • 9962

                                    #18
                                    Saturday, June 13 Results

                                    6) WAS @ TB, Over 9 (-131) WIN
                                    7) BOS @ PHI, Over 9.5 (-122) WIN
                                    8) LAD (+113) @ TEX WIN

                                    Day Record, Net Units, MTD Record, Current Bankroll
                                    3-0-0, +3.13u, 4-4-0, 58.87u
                                    Comment
                                    • suicidekings
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 03-23-09
                                      • 9962

                                      #19
                                      Sunday, June 14

                                      9) LAD @ TEX, Under 9.5 (-110)
                                      10) SEA (+119) @ COL
                                      11) OAK @ SF, SF RL -1.5 (+160)
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                                      • wangichu
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 11-07-08
                                        • 946

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by wangichu
                                        NYM ML +110 (2 units)

                                        FLA ML +106 (1 unit)
                                        PHI ML +118 (1 unit)
                                        KC ML +110 (1 unit)
                                        58.84 + 1.34 = 60.18 units

                                        8-7 overall record

                                        +.18 units net gain
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                                        • suicidekings
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 03-23-09
                                          • 9962

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by suicidekings
                                          Sunday, June 14

                                          9) LAD @ TEX, Under 9.5 (-110) WIN
                                          10) SEA (+119) @ COL LOSE
                                          11) OAK @ SF, SF RL -1.5 (+160) WIN
                                          Day Record, Net Units, MTD Record, Current Bankroll
                                          2-1-0, +1.6u, 6-5-0, 60.47u
                                          Comment
                                          • suicidekings
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 03-23-09
                                            • 9962

                                            #22
                                            Correction:

                                            Sunday, June 14

                                            9) LAD @ TEX, Under 9.5 (-128) WIN
                                            10) SEA (+122) @ COL LOSE
                                            11) OAK @ SF, SF RL -1.5 (+145) WIN

                                            Day Record, Net Units, MTD Record, Current Bankroll
                                            2-1-0, +1.45u, 6-5-0, 60.32u
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                                            • suicidekings
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 03-23-09
                                              • 9962

                                              #23
                                              Just running out hte door.

                                              Tuesday, June 16

                                              12) Giants ML, 1u
                                              13) Indians ML, 1u
                                              14) Rays ML, 1u
                                              15) Marlins ML, 2u

                                              I'll add the lines later.
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                                              • wangichu
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 11-07-08
                                                • 946

                                                #24
                                                Tuesday 6/16

                                                PIT ML +127 (2 units)

                                                COL ML -126 (1 unit)
                                                FLA ML +153 (1 unit)
                                                DET/STL under 7 +109 (1 unit)
                                                Comment
                                                • wangichu
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 11-07-08
                                                  • 946

                                                  #25
                                                  SF ML -173? I'm guessing your play was before ervin santana was announced as out for this one.
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                                                  • wangichu
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 11-07-08
                                                    • 946

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by wangichu
                                                    Tuesday 6/16

                                                    PIT ML +127 (2 units)

                                                    COL ML -126 (1 unit)
                                                    FLA ML +153 (1 unit)
                                                    DET/STL under 7 +109 (1 unit)

                                                    60.18 - 5.26 = 54.92 units (i need to learn how to avoid the big dump day)

                                                    -5.08 net "profit"

                                                    8-11
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                                                    • wangichu
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 11-07-08
                                                      • 946

                                                      #27
                                                      WED 6/17

                                                      ARI ML +145
                                                      DET ML -115
                                                      TOR ML +122

                                                      all 1 unit (wish i had posted my CHW play, but oh well)
                                                      Comment
                                                      • wangichu
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 11-07-08
                                                        • 946

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by wangichu
                                                        WED 6/17

                                                        ARI ML +145
                                                        DET ML -115
                                                        TOR ML +122

                                                        all 1 unit (wish i had posted my CHW play, but oh well)

                                                        54.92 + 1.52 = 56.44 units

                                                        -3.56 net "profit"

                                                        10-12 overall
                                                        Comment
                                                        • wangichu
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 11-07-08
                                                          • 946

                                                          #29
                                                          Thursday 6/18

                                                          COL ML -115 (1 unit)
                                                          CHW ML +140 (1 unit)
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                                                          • wangichu
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 11-07-08
                                                            • 946

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by wangichu
                                                            Thursday 6/18

                                                            COL ML -115 (1 unit)
                                                            CHW ML +140 (1 unit)
                                                            no net units thanks to the a-holes in the chi sox pen.

                                                            56.44 units

                                                            -3.56 net "profit"

                                                            11-13 overall
                                                            Comment
                                                            • wangichu
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 11-07-08
                                                              • 946

                                                              #31
                                                              Friday 6/19

                                                              FLA ML +120
                                                              MIL ML +120
                                                              WAS ML -110

                                                              all 2 units
                                                              Comment
                                                              • wangichu
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 11-07-08
                                                                • 946

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by wangichu
                                                                Friday 6/19

                                                                FLA ML +120
                                                                MIL ML +120
                                                                WAS ML -110

                                                                all 2 units
                                                                56.44 - 2 = 54.44 units

                                                                -5.56 net "profit"

                                                                12-15 overall

                                                                need to keep from running myself into the ground as my opponent seems to be letting me lose rather than worrying about winning.
                                                                Comment
                                                                • wangichu
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 11-07-08
                                                                  • 946

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Saturday 6/20

                                                                  FLA ML +100 (2 units)
                                                                  ARI ML +115 (1 unit)
                                                                  BAL ML +125 (1 unit)
                                                                  BOS -1.5 +130 (1 unit)
                                                                  Comment
                                                                  • wangichu
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 11-07-08
                                                                    • 946

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by wangichu
                                                                    Saturday 6/20

                                                                    FLA ML +100 (2 units)
                                                                    ARI ML +115 (1 unit)
                                                                    BAL ML +125 (1 unit)
                                                                    BOS -1.5 +130 (1 unit)
                                                                    54.44 + 3.55 = 57.99 units

                                                                    -2.01 net "profit"

                                                                    15-16 overall
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                                                                    • suicidekings
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 03-23-09
                                                                      • 9962

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by suicidekings

                                                                      Tuesday, June 16 Results

                                                                      12) Giants ML, 1u LOSE
                                                                      13) Indians ML, 1u LOSE
                                                                      14) Rays ML, 1u WIN
                                                                      15) Marlins ML, 2u LOSE
                                                                      Day Record, Net Units, MTD Record, Current Bankroll
                                                                      1-3-0, -3.66u, 7-8-0, 56.66u

                                                                      A combination of malfunctioning internet and a busy work schedule has kept me from spending much time on this in the last week.

                                                                      Monday, June 22

                                                                      16) COL (+115) @ LAA
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