Round 2 ~ Todays Action vs BByHill ~

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  • Dexter
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 12-24-08
    • 25829

    #1
    Round 2 ~ Todays Action vs BByHill ~
    OK Guys - continue to send back your confirmations to me. Here are the rules myself and suicideking have come up with. Lets all do well, as i've tried to construct this towards the weighted gambling approach that i love to use. With the rules in place, these plays should mirror what you are actually wagering each day. Win or lose, this contest should teach you all about the beauty of weighted gambling with sound money management (no chasing)
    • Each player will have a starting bankroll of 60 units, and you must make a minimum of 50 plays for the round (no max). however, each day you can only play 15% of your starting bankroll for the day. ie, if you have 30 units going into a day, you may only wager 4.5 units for that day which can be broken up however you choose. This will eliminate chasing, and will hopefully help us all use better proper money management techniques for our real world wagers.<o></o>>
    • ****Since we have no official score keeper, it is up to you to keep track of your record AND your opponents. This will be our only obstacle for having a clean tourney, so pay attention to the following rules. Each day, both of the participants should be noting the results of the prior day, along with the net total bankroll (do it for your opponent as well so you have an extra pair of eyes). If its noticed that the results/lines etc from past days are incorrect, they can obviously should corrected at any time. However that will not have an affect on any units bet on games after that (the 15% daily limit). If the results from the prior day are posted correctly, however a player goes over the 15% limit for the day, the opponent (or any other sbr member) has until the next days first pitch to report the error. If reported in time, ALL BETS made that day are cancelled for the person who broke the 15% rule.<o></o>
    • all lines will be the opening consensus from sbr (far left), and plays must be posted 5 minutes before the start time of the first day game/night game (anything before 6:00 eastern is considered a day game) ie, if the first game is at 1:05 eastern, the plays for all afternoon games must be posted by NO LATER then 1pm. Night games will be considered anything that starts at 6pm eastern and forward. So for a normal night with 7:05 first pitch, those plays for all night game (including west coast) must be in by 7:00. a lot can happen in the first few at bats, so make sure these picks are in on time.<o></o>
    • all bets must be for the full game and can consist of moneyline, runlines or totals. No reverse run lines.<o></o>
    • we will be betting the team, not the pitcher - so a late scratch of the pitcher stands unless you cancel the bet prior to first pitch (here you can cancel a west coast game if your pitcher is scratched)<o></o>
    • no posts can be edited<o></o>
    • ML = moneyline - RL = run line. When betting a total, make sure you assign the proper money line per SBR. On the totals, over/under section – you will see a total mentioned with a 2 moneylines next to it. The top moneyline is if you take the over, the bottom is if you take the under.<o></o>
    • If there happens to be a tie after 6/11 has concluded. Each player will have to make 5 picks on 6/12, all for 1 unit each. If that doesn’t end the tie, then the same thing the next day, and so on.<o></o>

    *once you are down to 0 units, you have lost the match.<o></o><o></o>
    additionally, the 15% rule pertains to just your units bet for that day - meaning its not based on *potential* returns (from underdogs) or *potential* losses from favorites.
    ie....you have 9 units to bet today.

    4x mets -200
    2x giants -150
    3x cards +180
    <!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]-->
    <!--[endif]-->*note how im not factoring the line into my 9 units allowed for the day. hope thats clear.
    <o></o>
    Added Rule - if a game is called for rain (but if *official* after 5 inn) we will only count the side and not the total. the total is a push regardless if you're over got there, or if you're under lost.

    So based on 30 days per round, plus one tiebreak day, the start/end dates for the rounds are:

    Rd 2: June 11 - July 10, July 11 tiebreaker
    July 12 - August 10, August 11 tiebreaker
    August 12 - September 10, September 11 tiebreaker
  • TodaysAction
    Restricted User
    • 08-01-08
    • 12762

    #2
    Record: 0-0-0
    Remaining: 50
    Bankroll: 60.00 units
    15%: 9.00 units

    Good luck BByHill, you are the favorite this round based on last rounds' scores.
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    • bbyhill
      SBR MVP
      • 09-16-07
      • 2991

      #3
      Thanks TodaysAction Dont good luck to you as well.Last round just hit a lucky streak.
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      • bbyhill
        SBR MVP
        • 09-16-07
        • 2991

        #4
        take the Dont out above was going to say dont know how I got the lucky streak last round
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        • TodaysAction
          Restricted User
          • 08-01-08
          • 12762

          #5
          Originally posted by bbyhill
          take the Dont out above was going to say dont know how I got the lucky streak last round
          No worries. What track(s) are you playing today, Friday and Saturday?
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          • TodaysAction
            Restricted User
            • 08-01-08
            • 12762

            #6
            Fl -119, 1.19/1.00
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            • bbyhill
              SBR MVP
              • 09-16-07
              • 2991

              #7
              HOLLYROCK the rest of the week,getting my notebook gathered up proly wont be finished by posttiime LOL,hit a good ex lastnight at WoodBine for over $100 and another one at Evangeline.
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              • bbyhill
                SBR MVP
                • 09-16-07
                • 2991

                #8
                916 CWS +105(2units)
                920 CLE +120 (2units)
                928 Tex under 11 -110(3units)
                904 ATL -1.5 +110 (2units)
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                • TodaysAction
                  Restricted User
                  • 08-01-08
                  • 12762

                  #9
                  Originally posted by bbyhill
                  HOLLYROCK the rest of the week,getting my notebook gathered up proly wont be finished by posttiime LOL,hit a good ex lastnight at WoodBine for over $100 and another one at Evangeline.
                  Nice to learn you got a great score, well done. You like the "tarp"?
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                  • TodaysAction
                    Restricted User
                    • 08-01-08
                    • 12762

                    #10
                    Mn +104, 1.00/1.04
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                    • TodaysAction
                      Restricted User
                      • 08-01-08
                      • 12762

                      #11
                      Originally posted by TodaysAction
                      Mn +104, 1.00/1.04
                      Adding another repeat wager for the contest in this post.

                      MN +104, 1.00/1.04
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                      • TodaysAction
                        Restricted User
                        • 08-01-08
                        • 12762

                        #12
                        Originally posted by bbyhill
                        916 CWS +105(2units)
                        920 CLE +120 (2units)
                        928 Tex under 11 -110(3units)
                        904 ATL -1.5 +110 (2units)
                        bbyhill,

                        I was just looking at the SBR opening lines column (farthest to the left) and they are showing a nine (9) as the opening number with -125 for the over and +125 for the under. Currently all the books there are showing ten's (10).

                        Also the far left column has CWS as +106, CLE +121 and the ATL -1.5 was +129 not as what you had listed.

                        What do you want to with these wagers since all four did not have the correct line listed (as I understand it)?
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                        • Dexter
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 12-24-08
                          • 25829

                          #13
                          Originally posted by bbyhill
                          916 CWS +105(2units)
                          920 CLE +120 (2units)
                          928 Tex under 11 -110(3units)
                          904 ATL -1.5 +110 (2units)
                          all these lines are wrong. they should be:

                          cws +106
                          cle +121
                          under rangers 9/+125
                          atl -1.5/+129

                          i know you were doing it right in the last round when i had checked in - but again, use the far left consensus openers from this site
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                          • TodaysAction
                            Restricted User
                            • 08-01-08
                            • 12762

                            #14
                            BbyHill
                            Record: 3-1-0
                            Remaining: 46
                            Bankroll: 66.29 units
                            15%: 9.9435 units

                            TodaysAction
                            Record: 0-3-0
                            Remaining: 47
                            Bankroll: 56.81 units
                            15%: 8.52 units
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                            • bbyhill
                              SBR MVP
                              • 09-16-07
                              • 2991

                              #15
                              961 FLA +240(1unit)
                              965 ATL -108 (2units)
                              972 TEX +102(3unis)
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                              • bbyhill
                                SBR MVP
                                • 09-16-07
                                • 2991

                                #16
                                Record: 3-1-0
                                Remaining: 46
                                Bankroll: 66.29 units

                                961 FLA +240(1unit) winner
                                965 ATL -108 (2units) winner
                                972 TEX +102(3unis) winner
                                record 6-1
                                Remaining 43
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                                • bbyhill
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 09-16-07
                                  • 2991

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by bbyhill
                                  Record: 3-1-0
                                  Remaining: 46
                                  Bankroll: 66.29 units

                                  961 FLA +240(1unit) winner
                                  965 ATL -108 (2units) winner
                                  972 TEX +102(3unis) winner
                                  record 6-1
                                  Remaining 43
                                  Banroll 73.75
                                  Comment
                                  • TodaysAction
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 08-01-08
                                    • 12762

                                    #18
                                    Heading into Saturday, here is what I have for us:

                                    BbyHill
                                    Record: 6-1-0
                                    Remaining: 43
                                    Bankroll: 73.75 units
                                    15%: 11.06 units

                                    TodaysAction
                                    Record: 0-3-0
                                    Remaining: 47
                                    Bankroll: 56.81 units
                                    15%: 8.52 units.

                                    Agreed/correct?
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                                    • bbyhill
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 09-16-07
                                      • 2991

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by TodaysAction
                                      Heading into Saturday, here is what I have for us:

                                      BbyHill
                                      Record: 6-1-0
                                      Remaining: 43
                                      Bankroll: 73.75 units
                                      15%: 11.06 units

                                      TodaysAction
                                      Record: 0-3-0
                                      Remaining: 47
                                      Bankroll: 56.81 units
                                      15%: 8.52 units.

                                      Agreed/correct?
                                      Agreed ,glad you are keeping up I am haviing major puter probs.Might have to get a new MB for my notebook.
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                                      • TodaysAction
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 08-01-08
                                        • 12762

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by bbyhill
                                        Agreed ,glad you are keeping up I am haviing major puter probs.Might have to get a new MB for my notebook.
                                        More than anything, I just want to make sure we're on the same page before it gets away from us. After it rains here, at times I have issues with this thing to so you're not alone in that matter.

                                        Any idea what's wrong with the board? Reasonably certain there's a "Tech/Geek" forum here where you could get some assistance if needed.

                                        Keep up the good roll you're on and I might start tailing your picks blindly to recoup from yesterday's losses.
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                                        • bbyhill
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 09-16-07
                                          • 2991

                                          #21
                                          901 STROS -110 (1unit)
                                          915 ATL +100 (2unit)
                                          917 DET +101(2unit
                                          912 CLE under 10 +106 (3 units)
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                                          • TodaysAction
                                            Restricted User
                                            • 08-01-08
                                            • 12762

                                            #22
                                            Stl -106, 9.54/9.00
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                                            • bbyhill
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 09-16-07
                                              • 2991

                                              #23
                                              I would wait to start tailing.Where is the geek forum??I took puter apart to clean fan and put it back together and fan runs when battery is in, when the power cord is plugged in it stops and can not turn puter on with battery or power cord,checked the ziff cables and they are all good pluged in with manufacturers writing on top.Dont get it could have done something to MB when taking it apart???
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                                              • bbyhill
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 09-16-07
                                                • 2991

                                                #24
                                                I am out a here going to start looking over Hollywood parks card for today.
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                                                • TodaysAction
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 08-01-08
                                                  • 12762

                                                  #25
                                                  Heading into Sunday, here is what I have for us:

                                                  BbyHill
                                                  Record: 8-3-0
                                                  Remaining: 39
                                                  Pick Differential: +7
                                                  Bankroll: 73.93 units
                                                  Unit Differential: + 8.12
                                                  15%: 11.0895 units

                                                  TodaysAction
                                                  Record: 1-3-0
                                                  Remaining: 46
                                                  Pick Differential: -7
                                                  Bankroll: 65.81 units
                                                  Unit Differential: -8.12
                                                  15%: 9.8715 units.

                                                  Agreed/correct?
                                                  Comment
                                                  • bbyhill
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 09-16-07
                                                    • 2991

                                                    #26
                                                    BbyHill
                                                    Record: 8-3-0
                                                    Remaining: 39
                                                    Pick Differential: +7
                                                    Bankroll: 73.93 units

                                                    956 TOR -113 (1unit)
                                                    951 STROS +124(2units)
                                                    958 BAL +107 (2units)
                                                    962 PIT -109 (3units)
                                                    972 Tex +131 (2units)
                                                    960 TAM under 9 +110(1unit)
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                                                    • TodaysAction
                                                      Restricted User
                                                      • 08-01-08
                                                      • 12762

                                                      #27
                                                      Sea +122, 5.00/6.10
                                                      laa -204, 10.08/5.00
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                                                      • bbyhill
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 09-16-07
                                                        • 2991

                                                        #28
                                                        Do you think you used to many units on your wager???
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                                                        • bbyhill
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 09-16-07
                                                          • 2991

                                                          #29
                                                          You only had 9.9 units to wager and the rule is if you go over no action on any posted wagers.
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                                                          • TodaysAction
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 08-01-08
                                                            • 12762

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by bbyhill
                                                            Do you think you used to many units on your wager???


                                                            Originally posted by bbyhill
                                                            You only had 9.9 units to wager and the rule is if you go over no action on any posted wagers.
                                                            , 9.8715 rounds to 10.0 units. In one wager I risked five (5) units. The other to give five (5) units. 5 + 5 = 10; 10 = 9.8715 when rounded to 10.

                                                            I had a similar experience in round one, and it was explained to me so I now understand what the terms of wagering are for this contest. Feel free to contact either Dexter or suicidekings if you need further clarity.
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                                                            • TodaysAction
                                                              Restricted User
                                                              • 08-01-08
                                                              • 12762

                                                              #31
                                                              Heading into Monday, here is what I have for us:

                                                              BbyHill
                                                              Record: 11-5-0
                                                              Remaining: 34
                                                              Pick Differential: +10
                                                              Bankroll: 78.42 units
                                                              Unit Differential: + 12.61
                                                              15%: 11.763 units (that rounds to 12.00 units)

                                                              TodaysAction
                                                              Record: 2-4-0
                                                              Remaining: 44
                                                              Pick Differential: -10
                                                              Bankroll: 65.81 units
                                                              Unit Differential: -12.61
                                                              15%: 9.8715 units (that rounds to 10.00 units)

                                                              Agreed/correct?
                                                              Comment
                                                              • TodaysAction
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 08-01-08
                                                                • 12762

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by bbyhill
                                                                Do you think you used to many units on your wager???
                                                                Originally posted by bbyhill
                                                                You only had 9.9 units to wager and the rule is if you go over no action on any posted wagers.
                                                                Originally posted by TodaysAction


                                                                , 9.8715 rounds to 10.0 units. In one wager I risked five (5) units. The other to give five (5) units. 5 + 5 = 10; 10 = 9.8715 when rounded to 10.

                                                                I had a similar experience in round one, and it was explained to me so I now understand what the terms of wagering are for this contest. Feel free to contact either Dexter or suicidekings if you need further clarity.
                                                                To further help clear this matter up, here is a cut section of the rules from the first post in this thread:
                                                                *potential* returns (from underdogs) or *potential* losses from favorites.
                                                                ie....you have 9 units to bet today.

                                                                4x mets -200
                                                                2x giants -150
                                                                3x cards +180
                                                                <!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]-->
                                                                <!--[endif]-->*note how im not factoring the line into my 9 units allowed for the day. hope thats clear.
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                                                                • bbyhill
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 09-16-07
                                                                  • 2991

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Looks like you wagered 15 units
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                                                                  • TodaysAction
                                                                    Restricted User
                                                                    • 08-01-08
                                                                    • 12762

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by bbyhill
                                                                    Looks like you wagered 15 units
                                                                    Only 10 units were used for the day based upon contest rules. One wager risked five (5) units, the other was to win five (5) units - this is not that difficult since it was previously explained to you. Take it up with Dexter and/or suicicedkings if you think I did not follow the written rules. Good day sir.
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                                                                    • TodaysAction
                                                                      Restricted User
                                                                      • 08-01-08
                                                                      • 12762

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by bbyhill
                                                                      Looks like you wagered 15 units
                                                                      And you used (risked) 11.4 when you were only allowed 11.0895. However, because I know how the rules work neither of us exceeded our limits.
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