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[ivyconniver]

Another solid week for the good guys.

[imgv94]

If Dallas wins and covers my boy slacker wins the $500!!

Do it boyeeee!!!!

[HAPPY BOY]

and if the saints cover your boy Happy wins 500

[onlooker]

Ill take the +1 on a sheit week.

Good job to everyone that places.

[slacker00]

GL tonight, Happy Boy.

[HAPPY BOY]

yeah u too slacker

[imgv94]

Oh shit, I'm sorry Happy Boy I didn't see that you were in the mix as well..

Damn well I'm glad to see one of you are going to win!!

[HAPPY BOY]

cool IMGV I know u missed it bro no problem Slackers a good dude so if I dont get it Ill be glad for him too!

[Razz]

Another 3-1 week for me, with the loss being the best bet, AGAIN.

[slacker00]

Well, Happy Boy, I need a miracle. 28-10. I'll probably head to bed either way, so congrats barring a ridiculous miracle.

[imgv94]

Congrats to Happy Boy.. Now do this with the winnings bro.

Bet the whole $500 on something with Cris and bet $500 on something else with another book.

If you win the Cris wager you have almost a grand and 1x rollover complete. If you lose then you have your $500 just like that..

[Mudcat]

Congrats to Happy Boy.. Now do this with the winnings bro.

Bet the whole $500 on something with Cris and bet $500 on something else with another book.

If you win the Cris wager you have almost a grand and 1x rollover complete. If you lose then you have your $500 just like that..

Anyway, congratulations HB. Nice work.

Thanks once again to CRIS and SBR.

[ADB DaVoice]

WOW...WTF happened to the Patriots today? MIAMI? I woulda SWEPT if it weren't for those bums! Oh well, I'm glad to have that $200! Thanks SBR, and thanks to the Prick for being so mediocre!!! Oh yeah. Does anyone know WHEN they credit your CRIS acct? Seems like last time it took til Friday. Is that right?

[Aces]

Another 3-1 week for me, with the loss being the best bet, AGAIN.

No Kidding Razz you have 30 wins. Your best bets are killing you. Your picks are on the money.

[Aces]

WOW...WTF happened to the Patriots today? MIAMI? I woulda SWEPT if it weren't for those bums! Oh well, I'm glad to have that $200! Thanks SBR, and thanks to the Prick for being so mediocre!!! Oh yeah. Does anyone know WHEN they credit your CRIS acct? Seems like last time it took til Friday. Is that right?

Money is usually in your account after Monday Night Football sometimes during the game.

[Illusion]

Nice going HB and the rest of this weeks winners.

[pags11]

congrats to happy boy and to everyone else who beat the prick this week...

[HAPPY BOY]

hey gang thanks, now its off to work. I hate Mondays although it is a little nicer with 500.00 in your cris account.

[aca]

wow!

my first prize after 14 week hard work!

Big Thanks Arizona Cardinals for screw up prick and put me $200

And thanks for all rest!

SBR, BetCris, The Prick, all winers and runers!

[the boss]

Thank you Cris and SBR! This makes $600 this year! I can't thank you enough for the contest and the generous prizes. Stay cold Prick! I can use the cash...lol.

[taurus]

thanks imgv94

I'll go on record as thanking you, imgv94.
I was going to post this subject posed as a question, but there is no need to do so now that I've read your thread.
I was originally intending to treat this windfall ( I have now won 600 ) as just added money to my bankroll; however, cris being a hi juice book, I concluded it would take me quite a while to roll over 600 x 5 at 50 a pop. I find better offers at Pinnacle and Mansion. Then I got the idea of just betting both sides , one with Cris and the other with Pinny or Mansion. I just wasn't going to do it in one play.
So I sort of came up with the same strategy myself, only I think maybe your suggestion of hitting the whole ball of wax makes more sense.
I would very much like to read rebuttals from Mudcat or anyone else.

[bookie]

No money in my CRIS account as of Tuesday AM.

Do I have it right that first they put it in, then I deposit the $100 and play through the roll-over?

[Aces]

No money in my CRIS account as of Tuesday AM.

Do I have it right that first they put it in, then I deposit the $100 and play through the roll-over?

No first you put your 100 in then they put the prick money in.

[Sean]

No money in my CRIS account as of Tuesday AM.

Do I have it right that first they put it in, then I deposit the $100 and play through the roll-over?

From the Beat The Prick Rules ...posted at www.BeatThePrick.com and in this forum:

Before being eligible to claim any prize(s) listed, contestants must make a one-time minimum deposit of $100 USD into their BetCRIS account ...

[Mudcat]

Sure I'll explain the holes in the post I was pointing out. This is the post I was scratching my head at:

Congrats to Happy Boy.. Now do this with the winnings bro.

Bet the whole $500 on something with Cris and bet $500 on something else with another book.

If you win the Cris wager you have almost a grand and 1x rollover complete. If you lose then you have your $500 just like that..

The way you have that worded, both bets could lose. You didn't say anything about betting both sides of the same game.

Pretty big hole.

Even if someone could read your mind about that, you made no mention of the all-important juice on the bets - to not pay attention to the juice is to throw away money - and you certainly didn't make mention of the fact you were apparently thinking of playing a middle. It would take a hell of mind-reader to know that.

So in fact there was one more hole than I even realized.

But since, instead of just laughing it off and saying you screwed up you did this attempted recovery with a middle example. That is also full of holes. A good value-middle depends entirely on the straddle in juice. You made no mention of the juice. I don't even know if you understand what I'm talking about now but basically:

In your example you seem to be living in some magical world where you can get

PHI-3 +100
port+3.5 +100

but a much more realistic set of lines (and I'll fill in some dollar figures to illustrate) would be

PHI-3 -105 ($500 to win $476 at CRIS)
port+3.5 -115 ($522 to win $454 at Pinny)

You lose $46 dollars if you don't get the push. If you compare the frequency of the push on 3 in an NBA pointspread, to the $46 you are giving away every time it doesn't, you will find it is bad value.

It seriously is. Don't take my word for it. Maybe get ganchrow to explain it to you because I know you won't listen to me.

To find a good middle where you're not throwing away your money, you need a lot of books and you need to shop and shop for a much smaller straddle in juice. Are HB and Taurus in that position? I don't know.

But sure, people can play it that way. I would personally scrap the middle idea and just look for a low straddle play on the same number like:

TEAM A -4.5 -110 ($500/454)
TEAM B +4.5 +108 ($458/$495)

Unlike good-value middles, things like that between CRIS and Pinny come along fairly often and you don't give away your prize money in 9% chunks at-a-time. It just costs you 5 bucks to make the play.

And there are any number of ways to finesse it. You could even scalp the CRIS funds against a future bonus but that's a new, big topic.

[taurus]

thanks mudcat

First of all: Congrats on beating the shit out of the prick this year.
Second: You won't remember this, but I was introduced to this site by 'Uncle Mudcat' , who was kind enough to explain to me on another site a good way to utilize the 5Dimes sign up bonus. Which is why I was interested in your thoughts vs your adversary here.
And Third: After sleeping on this one a bit, I did come to recognize the juice factor as the big disadvantage in playing both sides and 'winning 500 at one while losing 500 ' at the other.
I have now won 600 with the prick, and with the hi juice at cris, I find other offers more appetizing elsaewhere. Ergo, it will take me a while to clear 5x at my betting level of a mere 50 bucks a a game.
I think I might be able to minimize my 'loss' by hard shopping around the number 3 in the NFL, but it will take patience.
Finally, None of my business but do you see the same problem I do in rolling over your 1900.?
Thanks
taurus

[LGBoots]

Thank you Cris and SBR! This makes $600 this year! I can't thank you enough for the contest and the generous prizes. Stay cold Prick! I can use the cash...lol.

$600 Prick winnings for me as well this season Many thanks to SBR & Cris

[bookie]

ok...thanks...I'll make the deposit...is the money then deposited automatically, or do I need to write CRIS?

[Sean]

ok...thanks...I'll make the deposit...is the money then deposited automatically, or do I need to write CRIS?

Let me know once you've deposited and I'll see that your bonus is credited. Email sean@sbrmarketing.com or send me a Private Message (PM).

[Mudcat]

First of all: Congrats on beating the shit out of the prick this year.
Second: You won't remember this, but I was introduced to this site by 'Uncle Mudcat' , who was kind enough to explain to me on another site a good way to utilize the 5Dimes sign up bonus. Which is why I was interested in your thoughts vs your adversary here.
And Third: After sleeping on this one a bit, I did come to recognize the juice factor as the big disadvantage in playing both sides and 'winning 500 at one while losing 500 ' at the other.
I have now won 600 with the prick, and with the hi juice at cris, I find other offers more appetizing elsaewhere. Ergo, it will take me a while to clear 5x at my betting level of a mere 50 bucks a a game.
I think I might be able to minimize my 'loss' by hard shopping around the number 3 in the NFL, but it will take patience.
Finally, None of my business but do you see the same problem I do in rolling over your 1900.?
Thanks
taurus

Of course I remember you from Covers.

Thanks for the congratulations. My luck has been very good. I seem to have my off-weeks when the Prick is on and vice-versa. Hopefully that will continue.

Congrats to you too. Keep it up.

Good luck with your plan to rollover your CRIS funds. I don't know if you check out the capping forums but I hear there is some good information to be found in there for straight betting.

As for this question: None of my business but do you see the same problem I do in rolling over your 1900.?

I will answer your question but first this warning: IMGV, don't read this. You won't like it. I have seen your jealous patterns and I guarantee this is the kind of thing about me that makes you mental - however I can't let that stop me from answering his question. So stop reading now.

The honest answer is no. First of all, I'm not done and I plan to win more BTP $$$. But in any case, that rollover is no problem for me. I have a lot of accounts and a fair bit of bankroll spread around for arbs/scalps/middles. CRIS has very high limits in some things (20K in NFL spreads, 10K in college, 5K in a bunch of things) so that rollover won't be a problem at all. Business-as-usual.

Also, just as a bit of side info. Although CRIS is full juice and sometimes not considered a top book for straight gambling, they have VERY good dog moneylines on some things and I bet a lot of dog ML's so CRIS earns my action on quite a few of those.

[taurus]

thanks mudcat.
I bet CFB money lines for the first time this year and did ok.
So that's good to know. I'll take a close look at cris' money lines.
There is a guy at covers ( garfather) who has an excellent weekly thread on the dog money line, BTW.
I also see cris as a good possibility for my horse bets ( occasional ) and I'll have to see about Tennis , with the Aussie open coming up.
GL to you.

[HAPPY BOY]

imgv did ya get my pm 4 ya b-day??

[imgv94]

imgv did ya get my pm 4 ya b-day??

Thanks bro.. Appreciate the birthday wishes..

[rickyg50]

The Prick should include NFL totals in the weekly game choices.