~Gyftosgreek vs Jellobiafra (Round 1)~

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  • Dexter
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    • 12-24-08
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    #1
    ~Gyftosgreek vs Jellobiafra (Round 1)~
    • the contest will run month to month, with round 1 being from Monday 5/11 until Thur 6/11. 6/12 will be left open for tiebreaker games and setting up the next round - with the next round starting 6/13.
    • ****Each player will have a starting bankroll of 60 units, and you must make a minimum of 50 plays for the round (no max). however, each day you can only play 15% of your starting bankroll for the day. ie, if you have 30 units going into a day, you may only wager 5 units (to win) for that day which can be broken up however you choose. The math comes out to 4.5 units (.15 x 30) but we will round up for any fraction > .50, and round down to the nearest unit for anything .49 or below. So if you are allowed 7.20 units coming into the day, you can play to win 7 units. 7.70 units – play to win 8 units. This will eliminate chasing, and will hopefully help us all use better proper money management techniques for our real world wagers.
    • ****Since we have no official score keeper, it is up to you to keep track of your record AND your opponents. This will be our only obstacle for having a clean tourney, so pay attention to the following rules. Each day, both of the participants should be noting the results of the prior day, along with the net total bankroll (do it for your opponent as well so you have an extra pair of eyes). If its noticed that the results/lines etc from past days are incorrect, they can obviously should corrected at any time. However that will not have an affect on any units bet on games after that (the 15% daily limit). If the results from the prior day are posted correctly, however a player goes over the 15% limit for the day, the opponent (or any other sbr member) has until the next days first pitch to report the error. If reported in time, ALL BETS made that day are cancelled for the person who broke the 15% rule.
    • all lines will be the opening consensus from sbr (far left), and plays must be posted 5 minutes before the start time of the first day game/night game (anything before 6:00 eastern is considered a day game) ie, if the first game is at 1:05 eastern, the plays for all afternoon games must be posted by NO LATER then 1pm. Night games will be considered anything that starts at 6pm eastern and forward. So for a normal night with 7:05 first pitch, those plays for all night game (including west coast) must be in by 7:00. a lot can happen in the first few at bats, so make sure these picks are in on time.
    • all bets must be for the full game and can consist of moneyline, runlines or totals. No reverse run lines.
    • we will be betting the team, not the pitcher - so a late scratch of the pitcher stands unless you cancel the bet prior to first pitch (here you can cancel a west coast game if your pitcher is scratched)
    • ML = moneyline - RL = run line. When betting a total, make sure you assign the proper money line per SBR. On the totals, over/under section – you will see a total mentioned with a 2 moneylines next to it. The top moneyline is if you take the over, the bottom is if you take the under.
    • If there happens to be a tie after 6/11 has concluded. Each player will have to make 5 picks on 6/12, all for 1 unit each. If that doesn’t end the tie, then the same thing the next day, and so on.
    • Once down to 0 units, you are out of the match.

    ie of a daily record update:

    Monday 5/11: +5 units

    Net: +65 units

    ie of selections made:

    Monday 5/11:

    mets -1.5/+110 (2 units)
    over redsox 10/-120 (5 units)
  • jellobiafra
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 03-08-09
    • 6291

    #2
    Gyftosgreek -

    I don't think I've had the pleasure of chatting with you here. Looking forward to a fun challenge.

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    • gyftosgreek
      SBR High Roller
      • 12-16-08
      • 240

      #3
      I have limited time because my work schedule.working 7 days a week running a restaurant,thats why you do not see me chatting a lot,plus i am from the old school you know what am mean.good luck to both of us.hope to get some time to chat with you on monday.
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      • Dexter
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        • 12-24-08
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        #4
        So based on 30 days per round, plus one tiebreak day, the start/end dates for the rounds are:

        May 11 - June 9, June 10 tiebreaker
        June 11 - July 10, July 11 tiebreaker
        July 12 - August 10, August 11 tiebreaker
        August 12 - September 10, September 11 tiebreaker
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        • jellobiafra
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 03-08-09
          • 6291

          #5
          Mon 5/11:

          CWS/CLE (under 10.5) -110 -- 3 units
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          • gyftosgreek
            SBR High Roller
            • 12-16-08
            • 240

            #6
            Plays for 5-11-09
            sfo giants-141--1.5 units
            arizona dbacks-121--1 unit
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            • suicidekings
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 03-23-09
              • 9962

              #7
              In response to a private message with a question about what units represent,

              One unit bet on a -110 fave would mean betting 1.1 units to win 1 unit. Alternately, a 1 unit bet on a +120 dog means betting one unit to win 1.2 units. Sorry if that wasn't clarified in the main thread.

              Additionally, this competition is baseball only. All lines are taken as the opening lines on SBR, and the only valid plays are ML, RL, and Totals. No RRLs or parlays allowed.

              Feel free to send any additional questions to me or Dexter

              -SK
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              • Dexter
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                #8
                additionally, the 15% rule pertains to just your units bet for that day - meaning its not based on *potential* returns (from underdogs) or *potential* losses from favorites.

                ie....you have 9 units to bet today.

                4x mets -200
                2x giants -150
                3x cards +180

                *note how im not factoring the line into my 9 units allowed for the day. hope thats clear.
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                • jellobiafra
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 03-08-09
                  • 6291

                  #9
                  Tues 5/12:

                  Bankroll: 56.7 units


                  PIT +120 -- 3 units
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                  • Dexter
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                    • 12-24-08
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                    #10
                    Error in Tuesdays Line on SBR - use the following line for the dbacks/reds game on Tuesday:

                    Dbacks -210
                    Reds +180

                    Dbacks -1.5/+100
                    Reds +1.5/-120

                    over 8.5/+100
                    under 8.5/-120
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                    • gyftosgreek
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 12-16-08
                      • 240

                      #11
                      plays for5-12-09
                      padres+140 1u
                      reds+180 1.5 u
                      phillies-120 1.2 u
                      astros +145 1.5 u
                      bankroll is 60.3 u
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                      • jellobiafra
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 03-08-09
                        • 6291

                        #12
                        Wed 5/13:

                        Bankroll: 60.3

                        SEA +115 -- 3 units
                        KC -110 -- 3 units
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                        • gyftosgreek
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 12-16-08
                          • 240

                          #13
                          plays for 5-13
                          florida +135 2 units
                          arizona +115 1 unit
                          angels +1oo 1 unit
                          seatle +115 1 unit
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                          • gyftosgreek
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 12-16-08
                            • 240

                            #14
                            forgot to update my bankroll,i won 1 unit tuesday that brinks my bankroll to 61.3 i bellieve.jello double check that.thats my first year betting basseball thank you and good luck
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                            • jellobiafra
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 03-08-09
                              • 6291

                              #15
                              I trust you. Good luck.
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                              • jellobiafra
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 03-08-09
                                • 6291

                                #16
                                Thu 5/14:

                                Bankroll: (Pending)

                                DET -120 -- 3 units
                                FLA -115 -- 3 units
                                NYY -145 -- 1.5 units
                                NYY (-1.5) +115 -- 1 unit
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                                • jellobiafra
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 03-08-09
                                  • 6291

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by jellobiafra
                                  Thu 5/14:

                                  Bankroll: (Pending)

                                  DET -120 -- 3 units
                                  FLA -115 -- 3 units
                                  NYY -145 -- 1.5 units
                                  NYY (-1.5) +115 -- 1 unit

                                  Bankroll : 54 units


                                  Hmmm. It looks like I am not going to be able to wager as much as I wanted on the games today. I lose two games and I'm already boxed in by this rule. Not really sure why it matters how many units we are allowed in a day. If I want to blow them all on one game, why isn't that my choice?

                                  I wish that was entirely up to us how to manage our own bankrolls, but since we are restricted to play this the way the creator's prefer to gamble then I need to adjust my units for today.


                                  So make today's wagers:



                                  DET -120 -- 2.5 units
                                  FLA -115 -- 2.5 units
                                  NYY (-1.5) +115-- 2.5 units
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                                  • jellobiafra
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 03-08-09
                                    • 6291

                                    #18
                                    Just realized where I've made my mistake so far (besides picking losers). I've been betting these units as if they were percentage points. That's what units are to me when I gamble for real - 1 unit equals 1 percent of the bankroll. My standard wager is 3 units (3%).... but that's based on a 100 unit bankroll. If my bankroll is only 50 units then I should have adjusted my standard wager to 1.5 units.

                                    Oh well. What's done is done.
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                                    • gyftosgreek
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 12-16-08
                                      • 240

                                      #19
                                      for the early games today 5-14
                                      florida -115 --1 unit
                                      i wiil be back later with the rest and to update my bankroll
                                      bol jello
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                                      • gyftosgreek
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 12-16-08
                                        • 240

                                        #20
                                        lookinking at the early games i think iwill add few more plays
                                        phillies-135--1unit
                                        seatle-115--1unit
                                        see you after those games are over
                                        for looking my games yersterday i lost 3.7 unitsthat brings my bankroll to 57.6 units
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                                        • gyftosgreek
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 12-16-08
                                          • 240

                                          #21
                                          here the rest of my plays for 5-14-09
                                          ny mets-125 for 2 units
                                          st louis cardinals -110 1unit
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                                          • jellobiafra
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 03-08-09
                                            • 6291

                                            #22
                                            Jeezus. I lost 8.375 units. I obviously suck. Should just fade my own picks.

                                            I'll just throw a dart at them today. Whatever. Sorry Gyftos. Wish I could have given you some competition...


                                            FRI 5/15:

                                            Bankroll: 45.625 (LOL)


                                            FLA - 130 -- 2 units
                                            CIN -120 -- 2 units
                                            WAS -105 -- 2 units
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                                            • gyftosgreek
                                              SBR High Roller
                                              • 12-16-08
                                              • 240

                                              #23
                                              bankroll as of 5-15-09 58.1
                                              florida-ladodgers under9.5--2u
                                              chic white sox -110--1u
                                              losangeles angels+100--1.5 u
                                              cincinati reds-130 1u
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                                              • gyftosgreek
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 12-16-08
                                                • 240

                                                #24
                                                what a day yesterday going 0-4,-5.9 units that brings the bankroll to 52.2 units
                                                plays for 5-16
                                                cincinati reds-125 2u
                                                los angeles angels+110 2u
                                                phillies-130-1u
                                                arizona+170-1.5 u
                                                hope to have a better day today jello bol
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                                                • gyftosgreek
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 12-16-08
                                                  • 240

                                                  #25
                                                  i made a mistake on the arizona, arizona is +110 for 2u.
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                                                  • Dexter
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                                                    • 12-24-08
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by gyftosgreek
                                                    what a day yesterday going 0-4,-5.9 units that brings the bankroll to 52.2 units
                                                    plays for 5-16
                                                    cincinati reds-125 2u
                                                    los angeles angels+110 2u
                                                    phillies-130-1u
                                                    arizona+170-1.5 u
                                                    hope to have a better day today jello bol
                                                    your lines are wrong and plays cant be made on the reverse run line. arizona on the run line was +1.5/-170

                                                    you should be using the lines that say "opener" on the far left

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                                                    your arizona pick counts but just for +1 unit
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                                                    • Dexter
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by jellobiafra
                                                      Bankroll : 54 units


                                                      Hmmm. It looks like I am not going to be able to wager as much as I wanted on the games today. I lose two games and I'm already boxed in by this rule. Not really sure why it matters how many units we are allowed in a day. If I want to blow them all on one game, why isn't that my choice?

                                                      I wish that was entirely up to us how to manage our own bankrolls, but since we are restricted to play this the way the creator's prefer to gamble then I need to adjust my units for today.


                                                      So make today's wagers:



                                                      DET -120 -- 2.5 units
                                                      FLA -115 -- 2.5 units
                                                      NYY (-1.5) +115-- 2.5 units
                                                      thats because we are trying to eliminate the luck factor of someone chasing and getting lucky on one huge play which they are not likely making for real. that wouldnt prove much if someone bet their whole roll in a fake contest.
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                                                      • jellobiafra
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 03-08-09
                                                        • 6291

                                                        #28
                                                        Mon 5/18:

                                                        Bankroll: 38.525


                                                        STL -130 -- 2.5 units
                                                        ARZ -133 -- 2.5 units
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                                                        • gyftosgreek
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 12-16-08
                                                          • 240

                                                          #29
                                                          plays for 5-18-09
                                                          bankroll 49.6
                                                          arizona-133 2u
                                                          washington-112 2u
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                                                          • jellobiafra
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 03-08-09
                                                            • 6291

                                                            #30
                                                            I just reviewed my plays and it looks like I am 1-9 overall. That is actually pretty amazing when you think about it. The more amazing thing is that only 1 of my plays was a true dog. And that was my only win. LOL. I might have accidentally stumbled on a real money making opportunity here. I'm honestly a little bit intrigued by the potential prospect of fading my own picks. As for the contest, I'm clearly done.... But I'll keep posting picks to chart just how terrible I am. These will be plays that I like, but I'm secretly hoping they all lose..... So let's see if I can keep this going with a big 0-3 today:



                                                            TEX -120 1 unit
                                                            MIL -110 1 unit
                                                            CWS -140 1 unit


                                                            I don't know what my bankroll is and I don't care. Congrats Gyftos.
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                                                            • gyftosgreek
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 12-16-08
                                                              • 240

                                                              #31
                                                              i do not think am doing much better either jello,anyway its afun contest.lost 2.7 units yersterdaythat brinks the bankroll to 46.9 units.today i will go with my home team the phillies+100 2u, cleveland-140 1u and texas -120 for 1.5u.
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                                                              • Dexter
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                                                                • 12-24-08
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by jellobiafra
                                                                I just reviewed my plays and it looks like I am 1-9 overall. That is actually pretty amazing when you think about it. The more amazing thing is that only 1 of my plays was a true dog. And that was my only win. LOL. I might have accidentally stumbled on a real money making opportunity here. I'm honestly a little bit intrigued by the potential prospect of fading my own picks. As for the contest, I'm clearly done.... But I'll keep posting picks to chart just how terrible I am. These will be plays that I like, but I'm secretly hoping they all lose..... So let's see if I can keep this going with a big 0-3 today:



                                                                TEX -120 1 unit
                                                                MIL -110 1 unit
                                                                CWS -140 1 unit


                                                                I don't know what my bankroll is and I don't care. Congrats Gyftos.
                                                                dude - there is 2.5 weeks left...be patient and relax. you have plenty of time to make up the units. gyfto is not + either....
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                                                                • jellobiafra
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 03-08-09
                                                                  • 6291

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Well it was the 1-9 that just put me under. I don't deserve to go on in any competition after a start like that!

                                                                  It's all in good fun. I'm not doing anything stupid like actually BETTING my plays anymore.

                                                                  Unfortunately it looks like I actually won 2 out of 3 tonight. Bad result for my fade plan. But I'll try to lose a 'em all tomorrow!
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                                                                  • jellobiafra
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 03-08-09
                                                                    • 6291

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Wed 5/20:


                                                                    BAL +140 -- 1 unit
                                                                    SFG +110 -- 1 unit
                                                                    STL -130 -- 1 unit
                                                                    COL +145 -- 1 unit


                                                                    My roll since the last updated total was -2.45 units. So that leaves it at ~ 36.00 (I rounded down about .06 to make it clean and easy.)
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                                                                    • Dexter
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                                                                      • 12-24-08
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Added Rule - if a game is called for rain (but if *official* after 5 inn) we will only count the side and not the total. the total is a push regardless if you're over got there, or if you're under lost.

                                                                      *lets make sure to keep accurate records and post your updated record each day, as i will be doing an overall standings at the midway point on 5/25
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