~Today's Action vs PeterPan (Round 1)~

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  • Dexter
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    • 12-24-08
    • 25829

    #1
    ~Today's Action vs PeterPan (Round 1)~
    • the contest will run month to month, with round 1 being from Monday 5/11 until Thur 6/11. 6/12 will be left open for tiebreaker games and setting up the next round - with the next round starting 6/13.
    • ****Each player will have a starting bankroll of 60 units, and you must make a minimum of 50 plays for the round (no max). however, each day you can only play 15% of your starting bankroll for the day. ie, if you have 30 units going into a day, you may only wager 5 units (to win) for that day which can be broken up however you choose. The math comes out to 4.5 units (.15 x 30) but we will round up for any fraction > .50, and round down to the nearest unit for anything .49 or below. So if you are allowed 7.20 units coming into the day, you can play to win 7 units. 7.70 units – play to win 8 units. This will eliminate chasing, and will hopefully help us all use better proper money management techniques for our real world wagers.
    • ****Since we have no official score keeper, it is up to you to keep track of your record AND your opponents. This will be our only obstacle for having a clean tourney, so pay attention to the following rules. Each day, both of the participants should be noting the results of the prior day, along with the net total bankroll (do it for your opponent as well so you have an extra pair of eyes). If its noticed that the results/lines etc from past days are incorrect, they can obviously should corrected at any time. However that will not have an affect on any units bet on games after that (the 15% daily limit). If the results from the prior day are posted correctly, however a player goes over the 15% limit for the day, the opponent (or any other sbr member) has until the next days first pitch to report the error. If reported in time, ALL BETS made that day are cancelled for the person who broke the 15% rule.
    • all lines will be the opening consensus from sbr (far left), and plays must be posted 5 minutes before the start time of the first day game/night game (anything before 6:00 eastern is considered a day game) ie, if the first game is at 1:05 eastern, the plays for all afternoon games must be posted by NO LATER then 1pm. Night games will be considered anything that starts at 6pm eastern and forward. So for a normal night with 7:05 first pitch, those plays for all night game (including west coast) must be in by 7:00. a lot can happen in the first few at bats, so make sure these picks are in on time.
    • all bets must be for the full game and can consist of moneyline, runlines or totals. No reverse run lines.
    • we will be betting the team, not the pitcher - so a late scratch of the pitcher stands unless you cancel the bet prior to first pitch (here you can cancel a west coast game if your pitcher is scratched)
    • ML = moneyline - RL = run line. When betting a total, make sure you assign the proper money line per SBR. On the totals, over/under section – you will see a total mentioned with a 2 moneylines next to it. The top moneyline is if you take the over, the bottom is if you take the under.
    • If there happens to be a tie after 6/11 has concluded. Each player will have to make 5 picks on 6/12, all for 1 unit each. If that doesn’t end the tie, then the same thing the next day, and so on.
    • Once down to 0 units, you are out of the match.

    ie of a daily record update:

    Monday 5/11: +5 units

    Net: +65 units


    ie of selections made:

    Monday 5/11:

    mets -1.5/+110 (2 units)
    over redsox 10/-120 (5 units
    )
  • Dexter
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    • 12-24-08
    • 25829

    #2
    So based on 30 days per round, plus one tiebreak day, the start/end dates for the rounds are:

    May 11 - June 9, June 10 tiebreaker
    June 11 - July 10, July 11 tiebreaker
    July 12 - August 10, August 11 tiebreaker
    August 12 - September 10, September 11 tiebreaker
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    • peterpan19
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      • 11-02-08
      • 3377

      #3
      GL TA

      SF RL +155 to win 2 units
      NYM RL +120 to win 1 unit
      ARZ ML -125 to win 1 unit
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      • TodaysAction
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        • 08-01-08
        • 12762

        #4
        #1) 710pm, 951, ATL, +160, 1.00/1.60
        #2) 940pm, 954, AZ, -125, 1.25/1.00

        Would have played CWS & CLE over 9' but the line for the contest was 10'.
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        • TodaysAction
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          • 08-01-08
          • 12762

          #5
          Originally posted by peterpan19
          GL TA

          SF RL +155 to win 2 units
          NYM RL +120 to win 1 unit
          ARZ ML -125 to win 1 unit
          Thank you Peterpan and to you as well.

          Help me out here if you can:

          SF -1.5 (+155) --\
          } How many units are risked to obtain that result?
          NYM -1.5 (+120)--/

          AZ 1.25/1.00. Thanks. Maybe I'm mis-reading it but I couldn't make heads or tails out out how you listed (sorry).
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          • peterpan19
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            • 11-02-08
            • 3377

            #6
            sf 1.29 risked to win 2
            nym 0.83 to win 1
            az 1.25 to win 1

            GL
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            • therber2
              Restricted User
              • 12-22-08
              • 3715

              #7
              Isn't it just:

              -risk 1.29 units (SF RL)
              -risk 0.83 units (NYM RL)
              -risk 1.29 units (ARZ ML)

              By the way, I don't understand why you can't play the over 9. What do you mean?
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              • therber2
                Restricted User
                • 12-22-08
                • 3715

                #8
                **1.25 Arizona**
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                • suicidekings
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 03-23-09
                  • 9962

                  #9
                  In response to a private message with a question about what units represent,

                  One unit bet on a -110 fave would mean betting 1.1 units to win 1 unit. Alternately, a 1 unit bet on a +120 dog means betting one unit to win 1.2 units. Sorry if that wasn't clarified in the main thread.

                  Additionally, this competition is baseball only. All lines are taken as the opening lines on SBR, and the only valid plays are ML, RL, and Totals. No RRLs or parlays allowed.

                  Feel free to send any additional questions to me or Dexter

                  -SK
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                  • Dexter
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 12-24-08
                    • 25829

                    #10
                    additionally, the 15% rule pertains to just your units bet for that day - meaning its not based on *potential* returns (from underdogs) or *potential* losses from favorites.

                    ie....you have 9 units to bet today.

                    4x mets -200
                    2x giants -150
                    3x cards +180

                    *note how im not factoring the line into my 9 units allowed for the day. hope thats clear.
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                    • Dexter
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 12-24-08
                      • 25829

                      #11
                      Originally posted by peterpan19
                      GL TA

                      SF RL +155 to win 2 units
                      NYM RL +120 to win 1 unit
                      ARZ ML -125 to win 1 unit
                      peter - not sure if you did this right, but here is how the bets should be:

                      SF -1.5/+155 (2 units)

                      *so if you win, you are +3.1 units

                      Mets -1.5/+120 (1 unit)

                      *Lost -1 units

                      DBacks -125 (1 unit)

                      *if you lose, down 1.25 units

                      hope thats clear
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                      • Dexter
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 12-24-08
                        • 25829

                        #12
                        Error in Tuesdays Line on SBR - use the following line for the dbacks/reds game on Tuesday:

                        Dbacks -210
                        Reds +180

                        Dbacks -1.5/+100
                        Reds +1.5/-120

                        over 8.5/+100
                        under 8.5/-120
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                        • peterpan19
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                          • 11-02-08
                          • 3377

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Dexter
                          peter - not sure if you did this right, but here is how the bets should be:

                          SF -1.5/+155 (2 units)

                          *so if you win, you are +3.1 units

                          Mets -1.5/+120 (1 unit)

                          *Lost -1 units

                          DBacks -125 (1 unit)

                          *if you lose, down 1.25 units

                          hope thats clear
                          thats how I wanted it originally...but bc in the rules you said something about to win.... anyway I think its clear from now on....also what you meant with units in play... I think we are ok now... so lets make some money today...

                          GL
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                          • TodaysAction
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                            • 08-01-08
                            • 12762

                            #14
                            Here is what I have for both of us:

                            Peterpan: 3 selections, 1-2-0, +0.85 unit
                            TodaysAction: 2 selections, 1-1-0, +0.35 unit.

                            Do you have this too?
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                            • peterpan19
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                              • 11-02-08
                              • 3377

                              #15
                              TA

                              thats how I wanted it too...but since i didnt know we were playing favs to win x units and dogs x units risked...I messed it up...see post 6...so I have to go with what I posted there...

                              so my record is 1-2 -0.08

                              your record is correct...

                              GL
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                              • peterpan19
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                                • 11-02-08
                                • 3377

                                #16
                                today picks:
                                Pit 2 units +120 -> 2.00/2.40
                                LAD 1 unit +100 -> 1.00/1.00
                                ATL 3 units +160 (is that correct ? can be ? or am I blind ?) -> 3.0/4.8
                                LAA 1 unit -135 -> 1.35/1.00
                                DET 1 unit -120 -> 1.20/1.00

                                GL
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                                • TodaysAction
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                                  • 08-01-08
                                  • 12762

                                  #17
                                  I have ZERO problems with you being 1-2-0, +0.85 unit. Take it, you earned it. You're not a known liar, cheap or scumbag.
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                                  • TodaysAction
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 08-01-08
                                    • 12762

                                    #18
                                    Contest pick #3, 909, 805pm, SD, +140, 5.00/7.00
                                    Contest pick #4, 914, 940pm, AZ, -125, 3.75/3.00
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                                    • TodaysAction
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                                      • 08-01-08
                                      • 12762

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by TodaysAction
                                      I have ZERO problems with you being 1-2-0, +0.85 unit. Take it, you earned it. You're not a known liar, cheat or scumbag.
                                      It's worth repeating. I have ZERO problems with you being 1-2-0, +0.85 unit. Take it, you earned it. You're not a known liar, cheat or scumbag.
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                                      • peterpan19
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 11-02-08
                                        • 3377

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by TodaysAction
                                        It's worth repeating. I have ZERO problems with you being 1-2-0, +0.85 unit. Take it, you earned it. You're not a known liar, cheat or scumbag.
                                        thank you... but it is what it is... I posted it (even if it was ) and now I have to stick with it...rules are rules...what if it comes down to .85 units at the end for you ?...I wouldnt want that

                                        you are a good guy too...so I think you can understand me...

                                        GL
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                                        • TodaysAction
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 08-01-08
                                          • 12762

                                          #21
                                          Here is what I have for both of us:

                                          Peterpan: 8 selections, 2-6-0, -4.18 units
                                          TodaysAction: 2 selections, 1-3-0, -8.40 units.

                                          Do you have this too?
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                                          • TodaysAction
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                                            • 08-01-08
                                            • 12762

                                            #22
                                            contest pick #5: 110pm, 951, ATL, +120, 1.00/1.20
                                            contest pick #6: 1205pm, CWS/CLE, over 8', -120, 2.40/2.00
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                                            • peterpan19
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 11-02-08
                                              • 3377

                                              #23
                                              I have for myself:
                                              2-6 -4.23 units
                                              your record is correct

                                              plays for today:
                                              LAD +105 2/2.1
                                              FLA +135 2/2.7
                                              SEA +115 2/2.3
                                              OAK -110 1.1/1
                                              Pit +110 1/1.1

                                              GL
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                                              • TodaysAction
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                                                • 08-01-08
                                                • 12762

                                                #24
                                                805pm, SD, +135, 2.00/2.70
                                                1005pm, KC, -110, 1.10/1.00
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                                                • peterpan19
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                                                  • 11-02-08
                                                  • 3377

                                                  #25
                                                  record:
                                                  5-8 -4.03

                                                  TA:
                                                  2-6 -12.7

                                                  do you have this too ?

                                                  early plays:
                                                  FLO -115 2.3/ 2.0
                                                  DET -120 1.2/1.0
                                                  SEA -115 1.15/1.0

                                                  GL
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                                                  • TodaysAction
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                                                    • 08-01-08
                                                    • 12762

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by peterpan19
                                                    record:
                                                    5-8 -4.03

                                                    TA:
                                                    2-6 -12.7

                                                    do you have this too ?

                                                    early plays:
                                                    FLO -115 2.3/ 2.0
                                                    DET -120 1.2/1.0
                                                    SEA -115 1.15/1.0

                                                    GL
                                                    Unfortunately, no I don't.

                                                    I have you at 5-8-0, -4.01 units and
                                                    myself at 2-6-0, -12.80 units. Worry not
                                                    we'll get this taken care of sooner than later.
                                                    Maybe list out all wagers, results and running total.
                                                    In any case, neither of us are doing well right now
                                                    but I know that will change.
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                                                    • TodaysAction
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                                                      • 08-01-08
                                                      • 12762

                                                      #27
                                                      Contest pick #9: SD, +165, 7.00/11.55
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                                                      • peterpan19
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                                                        • 11-02-08
                                                        • 3377

                                                        #28
                                                        ok here we go:
                                                        your WINS so far:
                                                        ATL 1.6 (May 11th)
                                                        ATL 1.2 (May 13th)
                                                        total gains: 2.8

                                                        your LOSSES so far:
                                                        AZ (May 11th) -1.25
                                                        SD (May 12th) -5
                                                        AZ (May 12th) -3.75
                                                        Over CWS (May 13th) -2.4
                                                        SD (May 13th) -2
                                                        KC (May 13th) -1.1
                                                        total losses: -15.5

                                                        NET: 2.8 -15.5 = -12.7 @ 2-6

                                                        for myself:
                                                        WIN:
                                                        SF 2 (May 11th)
                                                        PIT 2.4 (May 12th)
                                                        LAD 2.1 (May 13th)
                                                        PIT 1.1 (May 13th)
                                                        OAK 1 (May 13th)
                                                        total gains: 8.6

                                                        LOSSES:
                                                        NYM -0.83 (May 11th)
                                                        AZ -1.25 (May 11th)
                                                        ATL -3 (May 12th)
                                                        LAD -1 (May 12th)
                                                        LAA -1 (May 12th)
                                                        DET -1.2 (May 12th)
                                                        FLO -2 (May 13th)
                                                        SEA -2 (May 13th)
                                                        total losses: -12.63

                                                        NET: 8.6 - 12.63 = -4.03 @ 5-8

                                                        thats what I have and I just checked it again...so it should be correct...letme know what you think...

                                                        GL
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                                                        • peterpan19
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                                                          • 11-02-08
                                                          • 3377

                                                          #29
                                                          late plays:
                                                          SF +105 2.0/2.1
                                                          CLE +130 1.0/1.3
                                                          NYY -1.5 +115 1.0/1.15

                                                          GL...with that I reached my daily 8 unit total...
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                                                          • peterpan19
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                                                            • 11-02-08
                                                            • 3377

                                                            #30
                                                            late plays:
                                                            SF +105 2.0/2.1
                                                            CLE +130 1.0/1.3
                                                            NYY -1.5 +115 1.0/1.15

                                                            GL...with that I reached my daily 8 unit total...
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                                                            • peterpan19
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                                                              • 11-02-08
                                                              • 3377

                                                              #31
                                                              late plays:
                                                              SF +105 2.0/2.1
                                                              CLE +130 1.0/1.3
                                                              NYY -1.5 +115 1.0/1.15

                                                              GL...with that I reached my daily 8 unit total...
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                                                              • peterpan19
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                                                                • 11-02-08
                                                                • 3377

                                                                #32
                                                                late plays:
                                                                SF +105 2.0/2.1
                                                                CLE +130 1.0/1.3
                                                                NYY -1.5 +115 1.0/1.15

                                                                GL...with that I reached my daily 8 unit total...
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                                                                • peterpan19
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                                                                  • 11-02-08
                                                                  • 3377

                                                                  #33
                                                                  late plays:
                                                                  SF +105 2.0/2.1
                                                                  CLE +130 1.0/1.3
                                                                  NYY -1.5 +115 1.0/1.15

                                                                  GL...with that I reached my daily 8 unit total...
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                                                                  • peterpan19
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                                                                    • 11-02-08
                                                                    • 3377

                                                                    #34
                                                                    sorry for the posts...dont know what went wrong...sorry
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                                                                    • TodaysAction
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                                                                      • 08-01-08
                                                                      • 12762

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by peterpan19
                                                                      sorry for the posts...dont know what went wrong...sorry
                                                                      I think you wanted to count all of them because you got them from a tout and therefor would know it's a sure thing! Glitch in the software most likely.
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