Beat The Prick Tie-Breaker...an idea

[caracalla]

Ehi Rolemand
09/06 means September 06 (not 9th of June)
09/05means September 05 (not 9th of May)

I'm waiting for your excuse.

Bye

[caracalla]

Like I said it must be the time difference.

No time difference; i's only your great error

[caracalla]

[QUOTE=rolemand]

JohnnyBoy928 is proof that the rule is stupid.
He joined 09/06/06 and he posted 135 times, about 20 daily.

QUOTE]


Caracalla is proof of the people not knowing how to do simple division.

And I'm waitinf for your excuse!!!

[rolemand]

I copied and pasted the same thing you did and it shows a different date. I see 09-05-06 as the join date.

[serontin]

Ehi Rolemand
09/06 means September 06 (not 9th of June)
09/05means September 05 (not 9th of May)

I'm waiting for your excuse.

Bye

I agree with caracalla. You have to excuse!!

[rolemand]

You guys can't read.

[JohnnyBoy928]

Don't hate the player, hate the game...

Hey Italiano... Im Italian too... So have some respect for your own kind... j/k
All up in my bizzz... hahahah all good... I show 9-05-06 as join date on me... but whatever... My birthday is on the 28th... You going to send me a present too? How about an handmade Italian Bull horn.. hahahahahah

I never made the rules... and actually I do not only post because of the contest... I actually like it here, and want to participate...

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[psycho44]

just an idea but how about instead of a post count tie break, have the tie break go to the player that posted his play first.

It's very simple, yet it gives amateurs like myself ample time to scout out the top player's picks well before game time. It also takes skills to post your plays early.

[RickySteve]

Not for long

Really? How long has JJGold been posting?

[RickySteve]

Post count is a horrible tiebreaker. There's already been an exponential increase in the number of worthless posts since the contest was announced.

The best tiebreaker is time of submission. This would give back some edge to those that can handicap and form an opinion early rather than just taking advantage of bad numbers at the last minute.

[JohnnyBoy928]

Wow!! Didn;t know becoming an active member would cause this much controversy...

I post picks and stories of interest... Along with replying to things I find interesting and/or amusing...

Hahahah All good I guess...

[moses millsap]

Post count is a horrible tiebreaker. There's already been an exponential increase in the number of worthless posts since the contest was announced.

The best tiebreaker is time of submission. This would give back some edge to those that can handicap and form an opinion early rather than just taking advantage of bad numbers at the last minute.

I'll be for all this if the picks can be concealed until the first kickoff.

Great suggestion RS.

[JohnnyBoy928]

The problem with that is that the line changes and I know on the contest it is set from tuesday... but anything can happen... a player could get hurt or something to that affect... Makes the world a difference...

I'll be for all this if the picks can be concealed until the first kickoff.

Great suggestion RS.

[War Pig]

I was just trying to lighten up the thread but since he made a retort I thought I'd fire back.

LOL Hey Rolemand, dont use such big words on here!!!! RETORT........ What the hell is a RETORT is it like a hotel/casino RETORT?? Or is it some kind of bakery goods like a LEMON RETORT??? LOL I'm just trying to lighten the mood and have some fun, I'm not that stupid everybody knows what a RETORT is, it's what you had to do in English class in school. The teacher made read a book and write a BOOK RETORT!!! LOL

[War Pig]

LOL Hey Rolemand, dont use such big words on here!!!! RETORT........ What the hell is a RETORT is it like a hotel/casino RETORT?? Or is it some kind of bakery goods like a LEMON RETORT??? LOL I'm just trying to lighten the mood and have some fun, I'm not that stupid everybody knows what a RETORT is, it's what you had to do in English class in school. The teacher made read a book and write a BOOK RETORT!!! LOL

Thanks for the info JohnnyBoy, I appreciate it. I received my $200 5 mins after I sent email you gave me. Thankls again

[psycho44]

for those of you with high post counts, just think of this from a perspective of a low poster by less than one hundred post from another.

Not considering the rare chance of a tie, I have to hit my 2 unit play and go 3-1 for 3 units just to have a chance at a prize iff the Prick doesn't score 3 points or more.

Others with high post counts don't have to hit their 2 unit play and go 2-2 to win a prize if the Prick scores 0 or less points. The scary part is they can monopolize the tie-breaker.

It's good to have 200 or more post counts I guess but how is a 200 poster that just joined 2 weeks ago any different from a 25 poster that joined 2 years ago? Did they actually contribute to the forum by spamming 199 posts?

[RickySteve]

for those of you with high post counts, just think of this from a perspective of a low poster by less than one hundred post from another.

Not considering the rare chance of a tie, I have to hit my 2 unit play and go 3-1 for 3 units just to have a chance at a prize iff the Prick doesn't score 3 points or more.

Others with high post counts don't have to hit their 2 unit play and go 2-2 to win a prize if the Prick scores 0 or less points. The scary part is they can monopolize the tie-breaker.

It's good to have 200 or more post counts I guess but how is a 200 poster that just joined 2 weeks ago any different from a 25 poster that joined 2 years ago? Did they actually contribute to the forum by spamming 199 posts?

Post count as the tiebreaker is a complete joke, plain and simple.

[Sean]

Post count as the tiebreaker is a complete joke, plain and simple.

The GOOD news, however, is that YOUR post count just went up by one ...

We appreciate all of the feedback from our posters and, as always, will give future consideration to all of the ideas you guys have presented.

[moses millsap]

Why not just have a typical tiebreaker with something to do with the MNF game? Like side, total, and a bunch of props like "Who will score last?", "Will either QB throw 2 or more TDs", etc.

[psycho44]

I like the MNF tie breaker idea. Just make it simple.

Just pick a number you think will be the total score of the outcome of the MNF game.

Those closest wins the tie-breaker. Nobody will b3tch about that because it's something they can control. And man like to have control.

Than you can go to post counts for the 2nd tie-breaker. See we both win.

[moses millsap]

I like the MNF tie breaker idea. Just make it simple.

Just pick a number you think will be the total score of the outcome of the MNF game.

Those closest wins the tie-breaker. Nobody will b3tch about that because it's something they can control. And man like to have control.

Than you can go to post counts for the 2nd tie-breaker. See we both win.

If it is just one pick like that, it would be more difficult, because the picks would need to be concealed. I'd prefer multi-prop selection sent to a MOD or something who would then cut and paste everybody's picks right at gametime on the board so there is no cloning by other posters.

Again, this doesn't serve me much benefit as I have one of the larger post counts here, but I think this would be most fair for all.

[slacker00]

I respect the right of SBR to put emphasis on post count for a tiebreaker. SBR is the only forum that I know that does this for tiebreakers, thus if I feel like spouting off, I come over to SBR to do it. SBR gets a lot of post traffic from me, and I get an occasional tiebreaker in the prick contest.

Last year, post count only helped me once in 16 weeks. Even then, it only put me ahead of posters with a dozen posts, which I think is fair.

It's not that hard to post a few ideas, from time to time, is it? It helps SBR. Why not help the people who are helping us all not get burned with crap books?

[DrSlamm]

it just encourages spam and worthless posts.

there are plenty of better ways to break ties..

[psycho44]

again the MNF total score, I think is the best.

Concealed or not, makes no difference when you've got over 100 contestants.

It's just a simple enter the # you think will be the total score of the MNF game and because I'm sure there will be many people picking close to the lines, the 2nd tie-breaker of post counts can come into effect which is what SBR wants.

[slacker00]

it just encourages spam and worthless posts.

there are plenty of better ways to break ties..

Spam posts are deleted, FYI. People make worthless posts regardless.

What is a better way to break ties which would help still SBR build post traffic?

The point of this contest is promotional. Why can't you guys find a solution which helps SBR promote itself as part of the tiebreaker?

[freebie]

i think the post count is the right way to go, most sites you need a minimin post count to even get in. Why should it goto someone with zero posts and who doesnt support the forum. I do like what another member said ...after you win top prize it goes to the person with the 2nd highest post total next time your tied/

I totally agree with you. Some places require a minimum of 100 posts to get in the contest. And why should those get to be a winner if they don't post and support the SBR forum?

[moses millsap]

I totally agree with you. Some places require a minimum of 100 posts to get in the contest. And why should those get to be a winner if they don't post and support the SBR forum?

Any update or are any suggestions being read?

[rolemand]

1st tiebreaker margin of cover for the best (2 point) bets
2nd tiebreaker margin of cover for all 4 picks

I still like this idea the best. It would be similar to archery per se. If you both got a bullseye which one is closer to the dead middle. If a couple people went 4-0 scoring 5 points. Why not break down those picks further to see which picks covered by the most points. Theoretically, we're all trying to find the easiest covers on the board and an EASY cover would be one that covers by a lot of points. I can't understand what could be simpler than that or more to the point of what the original goal is.

[Sean]

Any update or are any suggestions being read?

Every one of the ideas presented with regards to the tiebreaker scheme has been read ... many great ideas. However, for this year's contest, we're going to keep post count as the final tiebreaker on weekly prizes. There have been some really good suggestions from you guys that will certainly be considered for all future contests ... keep 'em coming!

[r2d2]

Totally agree on this actually. I just joined, and when I have something to say or need input from fellow capers, then sure i will post. But if i don't have anything to add, why should i be penalized.

I have heard some people complain about post count being used as a tie-breaker for weekly prizes. I fall into that camp also. I may only come out on top one week of the season and if I lose out on post-count its a little tough to swallow. The drop from 1st prize of $500 to $200 is steep.

I suppose people could start replying to each and every thread on the board, regardless of whether they have anything intelligent to add or not but I don't think anyone wants to see that. It might be too late to implement but here's an idea...

Make the first tie-breaker the 'uniqueness' of the picks. Since you are tracking how many contestants are picking each game, it shouldn't be that hard to tally. For example...if I am tied with someone at 4-0 for the week and my picks were chosen a combined 50 times versus his that were chosen a combined 25 times then he would come out the winner based on the fact that he chose less popular games and was not just following consensus...ergo a better capper.

Any thoughts?

[Mudcat]

For the tie-breaker, we should go by the earliest "Join Date". Period. End of discussion.

[slacker00]

For the tie-breaker, we should go by the earliest "Join Date". Period. End of discussion.

How about we bring back "reputation points" and use that as the tiebreaker!

[Patrick McIrish]

Not sure why I am chiming in since the issue is resolved but I will throw my two cents in as well. I don't have many posts but I like the rule. I think it will do what it is designed to do. For one thing you won't have a longtime SBR forum member lose to a guy that registered solely for this contest. More than you think are playing that you will not see in the forums again until next year. They are here for this contest and this contest only, no way should these fly by nighters beat out a forum regular IMO if all other things are equal.

While I'm not going to beat many regulars on post count I will beat most that just came here for this contest and this contest alone. So will most of you. Besides, from what I've seen if you go 3-1 or 4-0 you will get paid anyway. I like the post count system and hope it stays. I've been involved running a lot of these in the past and you wouldn't believe the abuses you run across. This won't cut it out completely but it's good start in the right direction. Take care of those who take care of you.