VIP Sports - Baseball Bankroll Contest - Wednesday, September 06th - Picks Here

Illusion · 09-06-06, 01:31 AM

09/06/2006
13:05 903 St. Louis (-220)
904 Washington (+190) 8.5 (100 O)
(-120 U)

09/06/2006
19:05 907 Arizona (+160)
908 Florida (-180) 9 (-115 O)
(-105 U)

09/06/2006
20:05 911 Pittsburgh (+104)
912 Chicago Cubs (-114)

09/06/2006
20:05 913 Los Dodgers (-105)
914 Milwaukee (-105) 8 (-110 O)
(-110 U)

09/06/2006
22:05 915 Colorado (+120)
916 San Diego (-130) 8 (100 O)
(-120 U)

09/06/2006
13:05 917 Seattle (+145)
918 Detroit (-160) 9 (105 O)
(-125 U)

09/06/2006
15:35 919 Texas (+117)
920 Oakland (-127) 9.5 (105 O)
(-125 U)

09/06/2006
15:35 921 Baltimore (+145)
922 Laa Angels (-160) 9 (-120 O)
(100 U)

09/06/2006
19:05 923 Cleveland (+105)
924 Toronto (-115) 10 (100 O)
(-120 U)

09/06/2006
19:05 925 Chi White Sox (-130)
926 Boston (+120) 10.5 (-105 O)
(-115 U)

09/06/2006
19:15 927 Minnesota (-133)
928 Tampa Bay (+123) 10 (-110 O)
(-110 U)

09/06/2006
20:10 929 Ny Yankees (-230)
930 Kansas City (+200) 10 (-120 O)
(100 U)

Ganchrow · 09-06-06, 01:33 AM

VIP Sports - Baseball Bankroll Contest - Wednesday, September 06th - Picks Here

VIP Sports Baseball Bankroll Contest

RULES:

• All participants must establish a VIPsports.com account with a minimum $50 balance and send their VIP account number to moderator bigboydan by email at bbd@sbrforum.com.

Click HERE to open your VIPsports account now.

• All contestants must have at least $50 real money in their VIPsports.com account prior to entering this contest.

• 5x rollover and normal VIP Sports bonus terms and conditions apply to all prizes.

• Contestants will be required to pick a MINIMUM of 10 games but NO MORE THAN 20 games each month. Three plays max per day, against the MLB Money Line (sides and totals) as established by VIP Sports and as posted each morning in the official contest thread.

• Each pick will be graded as a one (1) base unit play against the ML and will be scored appropriately. If you post an incorrect line it will be graded as a loss. If your post is edited in any fashion ALL selections will be graded as a loss. Selections that are past posted will be graded as a loss also.

Examples:
• Florida Marlins WIN at +126 = 1.26 units ADDED to contestant’s “bankroll”
• Florida Marlins LOSE at +126 = 1.00 unit SUBTRACTED from contestant’s “bankroll”
• Atlanta Braves WIN at -119 = 1.00 unit ADDED to contestant’s “bankroll”
• Atlanta Braves LOSE at -119 = 1.19 units SUBTRACTED from contestant’s “bankroll”

• All bets have action regardless of changes in starting pitcher.

• All contestants start with a monthly “bankroll” of $0 … the three largest “bankrolls” at the end of each month qualify for monthly prizes. The largest total “bankroll” at the end of the regular season qualifies for the Grand Prize.

• Assuming VIP Sports account conditions and all contest rules are met (as described above), contestants may enter this contest at any time during the season and remain eligible for both monthly prizes as well as the Grand Prize. However, as this is a bankroll building contest, contestants who play the maximum number of 20 games each month for the entire season may have a stronger opportunity to win prizes.

• Check your selections carefully before posting. The rules stated above regarding edited/past posting will be strictly enforced.

• Either SBR or VIPsports.com may deny entry or prizes for any contestant with out cause and rules may be modified without prior notice.

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PRIZES:

Monthly Prizes

$300 – The largest “bankroll” at the end of each month during the regular MLB season will receive a $300 betting account at VIPsports.com, subject to all terms and conditions above.

$200 – The second highest “bankroll” at the end of each month during the regular MLB season will receive a $200 betting account at VIPsports.com, subject to all terms and conditions above.

$100 – The third highest “bankroll” at the end of each month during the regular MLB season will receive a $100 betting account at VIPsports.com, subject to all terms and conditions above.

Season-Ending Grand Prize

Trip for Two to Curacao (valued at $4,000.00)*
The contestant with the single highest season-ending “bankroll” for all months combined during the regular MLB season (and having met all contest rules described above) will qualify to win an all-expenses paid trip for two to the Caribbean island of Curacao, with airfare and 5 nights deluxe accommodations courtesy of VIPsports.com.

In addition to airfare and hotel accommodations, the Grand Prize includes:
- $1000 (USD) cash spending money
- Airport-Hotel transportation
- Celebration dinner party with representatives from both VIP Sports and SBR
(In lieu of the trip for two, the grand prize winner may opt to accept a $2500 betting account at VIP Sports, subject to 3x rollover and normal VIP Sports bonus terms and conditions.)

* Coach class airfare paid from anywhere in the continental United States. Airfare compensation for travel from any location outside the continental United States will be limited to $1000.00 USD

Season-Ending Runner Up Prizes

Each of the next five(5) highest season-ending “bankrolls” for all months combined during the regular MLB season will qualify to win a Prize Package containing gifts from VIP Sports and SBR, valued at more than $250 each.

A minimum of 50 plays is required to claim a season ending prize.

While SBR moderators may participate in the contest, they are not eligible to win any prizes. In the event that an SBR moderator finishes a month or the season with a bankroll that would qualify for a prize, the player with the next highest eligible bankroll shall be deemed the winner.

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Ganchrow · 09-06-06, 01:33 AM

VIP Sports - Baseball Bankroll Contest - Wednesday, September 06th - Picks Here

09/06/2006 13:05
903 ST. LOUIS -220 8.5o +100
904 WASHINGTON +190 8.5u -120

09/06/2006 19:05
907 ARIZONA +160 9o -115
908 FLORIDA -180 9u -105

09/06/2006 20:05
911 PITTSBURGH +104
912 CHICAGO CUBS -114

09/06/2006 20:05
913 LOS DODGERS -105 8o -110
914 MILWAUKEE -105 8u -110

09/06/2006 22:05
915 COLORADO +120 8o +100
916 SAN DIEGO -130 8u -120

09/06/2006 13:05
917 SEATTLE +145 9o +105
918 DETROIT -160 9u -125

09/06/2006 15:35
919 TEXAS +117 9.5o +105
920 OAKLAND -127 9.5u -125

09/06/2006 15:35
921 BALTIMORE +145 9o -120
922 LAA ANGELS -160 9u +100

09/06/2006 19:05
923 CLEVELAND +105 10o +100
924 TORONTO -115 10u -120

09/06/2006 19:05
925 CHI WHITE SOX -130 10.5o -105
926 BOSTON +120 10.5u -115

09/06/2006 19:15
927 MINNESOTA -133 10o -110
928 TAMPA BAY +123 10u -110

09/06/2006 20:10
929 NY YANKEES -230 10o -120
930 KANSAS CITY +200 10u +100

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stump · 09-06-06, 02:12 AM

tigers - 160
yankees - 230

LVHerbie · 09-06-06, 02:54 AM

balt +145

jpowderly · 09-06-06, 04:55 AM

BALTIMORE /LAA 9u +100
918 DETROIT -160

kdmfox · 09-06-06, 07:13 AM

It's been several days, but find a need to weigh in on this issue ... manly was penalized for making 2 winning picks but posted the incorect line ... It is clear to me that these were legitimate winners but he made a mistake in posting the line ... The rules clearly state that that such an infraction will be graded as a loss so I have no issue with that ... I have an issue with the rule itself.

This pillow fight has been nip and tuck throughout and it is catostrophic to go from a +2.00 to a -2.30, a change of 4.30 for an infraction that has no connection to selecting a winner.

Is this a contest of selecting winners or a combination of selecting winners and someones proficiency in scrolling up and down and typing in the correct line? ... Mistakes happen, but in several cases that I have seen, honest mistakes, but plain as day what selection the contestant made.

There has been no other contest that I can think of on here that severely punishes plain simple mistakes ... Earlier in the contest I edited a post to add an additional selection rather than make an additional post ... My mistake as my winner was graded as a loss ... I had made 2 edits that I can think of in previous contests (NBA and Beat The Prick) to change a pick before the deadline ... There were no rules against editing or punishment for posting an incorrect line.

In this contest there is a master list of the selections and the lines at the top of the page and the picks are graded against them ... If the moderator has to check everyones lines to see that they are correct, then I would think it would save him some time and effort if we just posted our picks and if we played the over or under, the runs, without posting the lines.

I'm not suggesting we go back and correct every mistake that was made here but in the future not penalize a contestant for clearly making a correct pick but an error in typing a line.

Honest mistakes shouldn't be graded as losses as they affect the outcome of a contest ... The maximum that should have been assessed here is that picks maybe should have been dq'ed and just counted on the pick total.

caracalla · 09-06-06, 08:43 AM

Early games

904 WASHINGTON +190
917 SEATTLE +145

psycho44 · 09-06-06, 09:37 AM

Detroit -160

BigDaddy · 09-06-06, 10:12 AM

Originally posted by kdmfox

It's been several days, but find a need to weigh in on this issue ... manly was penalized for making 2 winning picks but posted the incorect line ... It is clear to me that these were legitimate winners but he made a mistake in posting the line ... The rules clearly state that that such an infraction will be graded as a loss so I have no issue with that ... I have an issue with the rule itself.

This pillow fight has been nip and tuck throughout and it is catostrophic to go from a +2.00 to a -2.30, a change of 4.30 for an infraction that has no connection to selecting a winner.

Is this a contest of selecting winners or a combination of selecting winners and someones proficiency in scrolling up and down and typing in the correct line? ... Mistakes happen, but in several cases that I have seen, honest mistakes, but plain as day what selection the contestant made.

There has been no other contest that I can think of on here that severely punishes plain simple mistakes ... Earlier in the contest I edited a post to add an additional selection rather than make an additional post ... My mistake as my winner was graded as a loss ... I had made 2 edits that I can think of in previous contests (NBA and Beat The Prick) to change a pick before the deadline ... There were no rules against editing or punishment for posting an incorrect line.

In this contest there is a master list of the selections and the lines at the top of the page and the picks are graded against them ... If the moderator has to check everyones lines to see that they are correct, then I would think it would save him some time and effort if we just posted our picks and if we played the over or under, the runs, without posting the lines.

I'm not suggesting we go back and correct every mistake that was made here but in the future not penalize a contestant for clearly making a correct pick but an error in typing a line.

Honest mistakes shouldn't be graded as losses as they affect the outcome of a contest ... The maximum that should have been assessed here is that picks maybe should have been dq'ed and just counted on the pick total.

hey he isn't the first to have them graded loses and he wont be the last to have them graded loses read the rules follow the rules and you wont have to worry about it happening to you plain and simple

maybe next time he will pay attention and to be honest how when you copy and paste them he could have ever came up with what he posted is beyond me? i looked at it over and over and couldn't figure out how he got what he got

psycho44 · 09-06-06, 10:48 AM

he could have been looking at the odds below but what I think was he had the line odd changes in mind and didn't make the neccessary adjustment.

Like Angels under 9, he could have looked at the Minnesota game o/u odds was -105. And the other game there was an odd 2 games below -110. Sheit happens but it's stone walled in the rules.

In the future though and I think that's the juice of what Kdmfox was trying to input to this great contest, is to eliminate minor odd posting flaws. And if I can tweak Kdmfox's input a bit, make it so that if it's just a +/- of just
.005. Or even the + and - sign. Those should be forgiven.

Anyways keep posting winners manly if you're reading this.

stump · 09-06-06, 10:49 AM

I need to weigh in on this one as well, it seems everyone is getting a little testy as we close to the end of this contest, we have all plodded along for 6 months and now it seems every little issue that occurs becomes a problem. I think we all need to remember that this is a free contest to enter, there is still basically a month left and 5 people can conceiveably win this. KDM i do agree that those 2 losses for Manly were tough losses, but as you and BigDaddy both stated it is clearly in the rules. I'm sure we have all had losses occur due to misposts, edits, web site being down, etc during the past 6 months, but what makes his stand out is the timing of it. I think clear, definite rules are needed in these contests to squash any debates, plus if there weren't strict rules the moderators would go crazy trying to police everything. Perhaps the rule gods at SBR can look into this for future contests. just my 2 cents. Best of luck to everyone

kdmfox · 09-06-06, 10:53 AM

Originally posted by BigDaddy

hey he isn't the first to have them graded loses and he wont be the last to have them graded loses read the rules follow the rules and you wont have to worry about it happening to you plain and simple

maybe next time he will pay attention and to be honest how when you copy and paste them he could have ever came up with what he posted is beyond me? i looked at it over and over and couldn't figure out how he got what he got

I was merely stating my opinion on this issue ... I'm not interested in finishing ahead of anyone on this or any other contest because of an error that had no relation to the selection itself ... It's not what the contest is about.

Refresh my memory ... Isn't manly the competitor you said had more common sense than the rest of us, you declared the winner and congratulated? ... Given that, I would imagine you'd have a bit softer stance on this issue ... Now that this unfortunate event occurred it does give you renewed hope after you packed it in.

I haven't quite got the point where I analyze everyones picks and why they made them or have I spent any time going "over and over" to see where he got to where he got on the line mistake ... May I suggest you get out a bit more?

BigDaddy · 09-06-06, 10:59 AM

Originally posted by kdmfox

I was merely stating my opinion on this issue ... I'm not interested in finishing ahead of anyone on this or any other contest because of an error that had no relation to the selection itself ... It's not what the contest is about.

Refresh my memory ... Isn't manly the competitor you said had more common sense than the rest of us, you declared the winner and congratulated? ... Given that, I would imagine you'd have a bit softer stance on this issue ... Now that this unfortunate event occurred it does give you renewed hope after you packed it in.

I haven't quite got the point where I analyze everyones picks and why they made them or have I spent any time going "over and over" to see where he got to where he got on the line mistake ... May I suggest you get out a bit more?

you seem to be the one analyzing every contest first it was beat the prick now this one let them run it and you make picks. yes manly i thought was smart but he made a mistake i dont see him bitching about it? so why do care? and like i stated its nots the first time it happened to someone probally wont be the last so stop bitching about every contest at SBR you seem to be the one thats needs to get out? you remind me of the guy on tv last years WSOP crying because the table wouldn't slow play until a guy got back tohis seat so he wouldn't be blinded out LOL

kdmfox · 09-06-06, 11:04 AM

stump ... I'm in total agreement with you ... I was not attacking the mods for doing what they did ... Rules are rules and they are pretty black and white now and have been changed to be clearer as issues arise ... A rule was infringed upon here, and should not be reversed as plenty of us have been had the same things ... I'm merely saying that it seems like an unfair rule that may or may not have a bearing on contest results and should be looked at in the future.

stump · 09-06-06, 11:07 AM

kdm,

i hear you, and i did not think you were attacking anyone, all i'm saying is that the timing of his mistake stinks, but you can't go back and change things now. i agree with you 100% that the object here is to pick winners and not get penalized for a technicality, so hopefully in the future this will not occur. BOL

BigDaddy · 09-06-06, 11:11 AM

Originally posted by stump

I need to weigh in on this one as well, it seems everyone is getting a little testy as we close to the end of this contest, we have all plodded along for 6 months and now it seems every little issue that occurs becomes a problem. I think we all need to remember that this is a free contest to enter, there is still basically a month left and 5 people can conceiveably win this. KDM i do agree that those 2 losses for Manly were tough losses, but as you and BigDaddy both stated it is clearly in the rules. I'm sure we have all had losses occur due to misposts, edits, web site being down, etc during the past 6 months, but what makes his stand out is the timing of it. I think clear, definite rules are needed in these contests to squash any debates, plus if there weren't strict rules the moderators would go crazy trying to police everything. Perhaps the rule gods at SBR can look into this for future contests. just my 2 cents. Best of luck to everyone

great post and i agree thats why the mods here runa good show as they have strict rules and enforce them

kdm sorry for getting testy i just think its best if rules are in place makes things run smooother IMO lets have a good ending to this and best of luck to everyone!

manly · 09-06-06, 11:18 AM

Thanks to all for their concern with the issue.

If I was a fellow contestant, I would be wondering just how this happened TWICE in the same day to someone who was leading the contest. This fact would definitely raise questions in my mind, as one "mistake" is unthinkable enough, especially when someone has gone the whole season to date without doing this.

kdmfox · 09-06-06, 11:25 AM

Originally posted by BigDaddy

you seem to be the one analyzing every contest first it was beat the prick now this one let them run it and you make picks. yes manly i thought was smart but he made a mistake i dont see him bitching about it? so why do care? and like i stated its nots the first time it happened to someone probally wont be the last so stop bitching about every contest at SBR you seem to be the one thats needs to get out? you remind me of the guy on tv last years WSOP crying because the table wouldn't slow play until a guy got back tohis seat so he wouldn't be blinded out LOL

Wow, A whole 2 issues and and I'm a bad guy on every contest ... These contests are relatively new and there are lots of things to be tweaked ... As for the Beat The Prick contest we have divergent opinions ... You seem to think that sending the sponsor $100 EVERY time you win is fabulous and a great deal ... When I win, I'd like the flow the other way ... I'd like to think my "bitching" either changed the rule or helped change it ... Feel free to send them $100 each time if that's your pleasure ... There are many around that applauded that change for reasons that are obvious ... Thanks CRIS and Prick.

Well, back to work and my boss and his stupid rules.

stump · 09-06-06, 11:32 AM

kdm,

i thought the prick rule change was a great change, keep raising issues, that's the only way change is made

BigDaddy · 09-06-06, 11:33 AM

well my position on that is if you gamble and think sending $100 to get a $200 bonus with a 3x rollover is a bad deal IMHO you should stop gambling as you have no chance of winning long term thinking that way. That is JMO

BTW thanks for getting it changed your efforts did not go unnoticed

also hope you took mansion up on the offer as they ended it today but that probally wasnt a positvie expectation?

Mr Nuts · 09-06-06, 11:36 AM

Det 9u-125

BigDaddy · 09-06-06, 11:38 AM

903 St. Louis -220

Mr Nuts · 09-06-06, 11:47 AM

adding
det-160
cards-220

Doug · 09-06-06, 12:02 PM

Wash +190

serontin · 09-06-06, 12:15 PM

920 OAKLAND 9.5u -125
921 BALTIMORE 9o -120
924 TORONTO 10u -120

scottyy11 · 09-06-06, 01:06 PM

923 Cleveland (+105)

caracalla · 09-06-06, 01:52 PM

Add

921 BALTIMORE +145

freebie · 09-06-06, 03:16 PM

907 Arizona (+160)

914 Milwaukee (-105)

926 Boston (+120)

kdmfox · 09-06-06, 04:25 PM

Originally posted by stump

kdm,

i thought the prick rule change was a great change, keep raising issues, that's the only way change is made

Stump ... I was a lone voice on The Beat the Prick issue so I was quite surprised they changed the rule ... Feel free to jump in with support on any crusades I go on ... hehe ... Or voice the other side ... I'm always open to compromise ... tee hee

kdmfox · 09-06-06, 04:27 PM

Illusion and ganchrow ... Sorry to clutter up the Picks thread with banter but I thought the baseball contest thread was where this belonged ... Do we have 2 picks threads going today?

Illusion · 09-06-06, 04:56 PM

Originally posted by kdmfox

Illusion and ganchrow ... Sorry to clutter up the Picks thread with banter but I thought the baseball contest thread was where this belonged ... Do we have 2 picks threads going today?

Two picks threads are going, but I will merge them. Also, I have no trouble with the ongoing discussion, go ahead and speak your minds fellas.

hanco21 · 09-06-06, 06:06 PM

tampa bay +123

manly · 09-06-06, 06:10 PM

09/06/2006 19:15
Min/tb 10 Under -110