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  • fearless
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    • 08-14-06
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    #1
    fearless-pico action point challenge
    I've got between now and the end of the season to choose 30 NBA plays (sides and totals). The plays will be graded on action points. pico has bet me that I won't finish positive in action points over the 30 plays.

    Rules:

    NBA only sides and totals only.

    I must use the Greek line at sbrline at the time I make my post.

    1/2 pt count as 1/2 unit win/loss @-110.

    No editing posts in the contest thread. If I do that, it is an automatic forfeit.

    If there's a dispute about the start time of a game we'll settle it by using espn.com.
  • pico
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    • 04-05-07
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    #2
    sounds good.
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    • fearless
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      • 08-14-06
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      #3
      Play #1:

      San Antonio Spurs over 183½ -110
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      • fearless
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        • 08-14-06
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        #4
        Originally posted by fearless
        Play #1:

        San Antonio Spurs over 183½ -110
        1-0 +15.5

        pico please confirm. This is the game's box score:

        Play-by-play action for the San Antonio Spurs vs. New Orleans Hornets NBA game from January 31, 2009 on ESPN.
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        • fearless
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          • 08-14-06
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          #5
          Play #2:

          Cleveland Cavaliers @ Detroit Pistons
          <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="350"><tbody><tr><td valign="top"> Game Date: Sunday, February 01, 2009</td></tr> <tr> <td valign="top"> Game Time: 2:30 PM</td></tr></tbody></table>
          Cleveland Cavaliers over 180½ -110
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          • pico
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            #6
            90-80 = 170 missed by 10.5 pts @-110 = -11.55

            1-1 +3.95

            still in the positive. good job
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            • fearless
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              #7
              pico, I'm +5. This is my calculation:

              Spurs game = 199 - 183.5 = 15.5
              Cavs game = 170 - 180.5 = -10.5

              In total

              15.5 - 10.5 = +5
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              • diogee
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                • 01-11-08
                • 19477

                #8
                Originally posted by fearless
                pico, I'm +5. This is my calculation:

                Spurs game = 199 - 183.5 = 15.5
                Cavs game = 170 - 180.5 = -10.5

                In total

                15.5 - 10.5 = +5
                You forgot to factor in the juice for the loss fearless.
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                • fearless
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by diogee
                  You forgot to factor in the juice for the loss fearless.
                  How do you do that?
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                  • diogee
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                    • 01-11-08
                    • 19477

                    #10
                    Originally posted by fearless
                    How do you do that?
                    Since you are playing at -110 you would take the total loss and multiply it by 1.10

                    The over didn't cover by 10.5 so you would do:
                    10.5 x 1.1= 11.55
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                    • fearless
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by diogee
                      Since you are playing at -110 you would take the total loss and multiply it by 1.10

                      The over didn't cover by 10.5 so you would do:
                      10.5 x 1.1= 11.55
                      I didn't know that. Good to know, thanks.
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                      • pico
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                        • 04-05-07
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                        #12
                        diogee on top of things. he is a true degen
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                        • BestPlay2day
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 08-25-08
                          • 5794

                          #13
                          How much are you guys betting on this challenge? Also, if it's just for action points the -110 juice on losses shouldn't be factored in my opinion. Wins or losses don't not matter in this contest, only the amount of action points + or - from the spread is being wagered on. So I agree with Fearless on his original calculation, does this make sense?
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                          • pico
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by BestPlay2day
                            How much are you guys betting on this challenge? Also, if it's just for action points the -110 juice on losses shouldn't be factored in my opinion. Wins or losses don't not matter in this contest, only the amount of action points + or - from the spread is being wagered on. So I agree with Fearless on his original calculation, does this make sense?
                            he agreed with the rule before the start of the contest. looks like you never bet action points before, so i recommend you stay recreational.
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                            • jackpot269
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 09-24-07
                              • 12842

                              #15
                              Originally posted by BestPlay2day
                              How much are you guys betting on this challenge? Also, if it's just for action points the -110 juice on losses shouldn't be factored in my opinion. Wins or losses don't not matter in this contest, only the amount of action points + or - from the spread is being wagered on. So I agree with Fearless on his original calculation, does this make sense?
                              If all plays count the same it should not matter but I agree with you it would be less confusing if you just count points -/+ and not add the 10% sugar !!!!!!!!!!!
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                              • jackpot269
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                                • 09-24-07
                                • 12842

                                #16
                                Originally posted by pico
                                he agreed with the rule before the start of the contest. looks like you never bet action points before, so i recommend you stay recreational.
                                Ageeing to the rules a head of kickoff takes out confusion gl to you both!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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                                • Immortality
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                                  • 12-20-07
                                  • 4599

                                  #17
                                  Looks like fearless will be added to my signature soon. Are you stiffing fearless
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                                  • pico
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Immortality
                                    Looks like fearless will be added to my signature soon. Are you stiffing fearless
                                    he has till the end of NBA season to make 28 more plays. he still got time. we'll see what happens.
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                                    • fearless
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                                      #19
                                      Chicago Bulls -2.5 -110
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                                      • pico
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by fearless
                                        chicago bulls -2.5 -110
                                        91-98, -9.5 @-110 = -10.45

                                        1-2 -6.5
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                                        • fearless
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                                          #21
                                          New Orleans Hornets -9½ -110
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                                          • fearless
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                                            #22
                                            Cleveland Cavaliers @ San Antonio Spurs
                                            <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="350"> <tbody> <tr><td valign="top"> Game Date: Friday, February 27, 2009</td></tr> <tr> <td valign="top"> Game Time: 9:35 PM </td> </tr> </tbody> </table>


                                            Cleveland Cavaliers -3 -110

                                            The Hornets game is also for Friday, February 27, 2009.
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                                            • pico
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by fearless
                                              New Orleans Hornets -9½ -110
                                              95-94, loss by 8.5 @110 = 9.25

                                              1-3 -15.85
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                                              • pico
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by fearless
                                                Cleveland Cavaliers @ San Antonio Spurs
                                                <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="350"> <tbody> <tr><td valign="top"> Game Date: Friday, February 27, 2009</td></tr> <tr> <td valign="top"> Game Time: 9:35 PM </td> </tr> </tbody> </table>


                                                Cleveland Cavaliers -3 -110

                                                The Hornets game is also for Friday, February 27, 2009.
                                                97-86, won by 8

                                                2-3 -7.85
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                                                • fearless
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                                                  #25
                                                  Houston Rockets -6.5

                                                  7:00 PM ET, March 1, 2009
                                                  Target Center, Minneapolis, MN
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                                                  • pico
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by fearless
                                                    Houston Rockets -6.5

                                                    7:00 PM ET, March 1, 2009
                                                    Target Center, Minneapolis, MN
                                                    105-94 11pts-6.5 = 4.5

                                                    3-3 -3.35
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                                                    • fearless
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                                                      #27
                                                      Mavs -6 v. Thunder
                                                      Spurs -8 v. Clippers
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                                                      • pico
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by fearless
                                                        Mavs -6 v. Thunder
                                                        Spurs -8 v. Clippers
                                                        87-96 thunder -15@1.1 = -16.5

                                                        106-78 spurs +20

                                                        4-4 +0.15
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                                                        • fearless
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                                                          #29
                                                          Bobcats -3 v. Hawks
                                                          Heat over 202.5 v. Raptors
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                                                          • fearless
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                                                            #30
                                                            Pistons -10 v. Warriors
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                                                            • fearless
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                                                              #31
                                                              Spurs -13 v. Wizards
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                                                              • pico
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by fearless
                                                                Bobcats -3 v. Hawks
                                                                Heat over 202.5 v. Raptors
                                                                98-91 win +4

                                                                210-202.5= +7.5

                                                                6-4 +11.65
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                                                                • pico
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by fearless
                                                                  pistons -10 v. Warriors
                                                                  17-10 =7

                                                                  7-4 +18.65
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                                                                  • pico
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by fearless
                                                                    spurs -13 v. Wizards
                                                                    22-13=9

                                                                    8-4 +27.65
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                                                                    • fearless
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Heat -3.5 v. Celtics
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