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  • mr. leisure
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-29-08
    • 17507

    #1716
    Originally posted by Otters27
    Who batted over .700 his senior year in HS.

    Drafted in 90 or 91

    Manny Ramirez
    Comment
    • Cross
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 04-15-11
      • 5777

      #1717
      Could it be the great Derek Jeter or Arod?
      Comment
      • ApricotSinner32
        Restricted User
        • 11-28-10
        • 10648

        #1718
        Who knows who really knows...
        Comment
        • Cross
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 04-15-11
          • 5777

          #1719
          Tired of waiting around for mlb, this sucks. Greedy owners, not blaming players at all.
          Comment
          • BigSpoon
            SBR MVP
            • 11-04-10
            • 4113

            #1720
            Scott Boras telling his clients to not 'bail out' the MLB owners. I don't have my hopes up for any MLB in 2020.
            Comment
            • EmpireMaker
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 06-18-09
              • 15562

              #1721
              The MLBPA’s counter-proposal to the league’s economic plan is expected to be sent this week and, according to multiple reports, it will wholly reject the sliding scale mechanism offered Tuesday by ownership. Ken Rosenthal and Evan Drellich of The Athletic report that the players will not budge on prorated salaries and will instead counter with a longer season — likely in the range of 100 games. Ken Davidoff and Joel Sherman of the New York Post suggest that the proposal will include more than 100 games, with Sherman tweeting separately that the union could seek to play as many as 110 games. Doing so would seemingly require pushing regular-season play into October.
              It’s not clear at this point what compromises will be offered by the Players Association. Sherman and Davidoff indicate that “many” members of the union appear open to deferring salaries beyond 2020, though, which could help ownership to avoid an upfront hit. Rosenthal and Drellich detail some other potential compromises that have been “loosely” discussed.
              League owners have contended that losses without fans in attendance could be so great that it’s not worth playing games if players are paid at prorated levels. A presentation was made to the MLBPA at one point in an effort to illustrate those claims, but the players’ side has remained skeptical. ESPN’s Jeff Passan writes that the union recently submitted another request for documentation providing transparency into local and national television revenue, sponsorship revenue and projections from teams. The union also did so back in March.
              Clearly, the league has not accommodated that request. Max Scherzer, one of eight players constituting the MLBPA executive subcommittee, tweeted a firm aversion to even “engag[ing] with MLB in any further compensation reductions” and adding that “MLB’s economic strategy would completely change if all documentation were to become public information.”
              While both sides are surely motivated to eventually resume play, both have put forth offers that will obviously be rejected by the other party. The players “essentially pledged to ignore the league’s proposal and instead offer one of their own,” Passan writes, illustrating the extent of the MLBPA’s dissatisfaction with the sliding scale. And if the league contends that prorated salaries without fans would require operating at a loss on a per-game basis, owners are likely to be equally dismissive of an expanded schedule without further salary reduction.
              So, is there a middle ground to be reached at all?
              The players feel that the league’s proposal effectively asks them to take an average 38 percent pay cut on top of the prorated salaries to which they’ve already agreed, as FiveThirtyEight’s Travis Sawchik recently outlined (Twitter thread). The hit would’ve been larger for baseball’s best-paid players, of course; the game’s highest-paid players would earn in the $$6-7MM range prior to postseason bonuses. League-minimum and pre-arbitration players would’ve taken a lesser hit but still received only about 46 percent of their full-season salary (92 percent of their prorated salary).
              Sawchik suggests a 19 percent cut from prorated salaries would be a middle ground, so it’s perhaps no surprise that The Athletic report contains speculation about players taking an 81-game prorated salary but still playing 100 total games. That arrangement would amount to players taking a 19 percent hit on top of their prorated agreement.
              The strong language from Scherzer last night casts some doubt upon whether the players will genuinely consider additional cuts, especially if the union plans to truly hold firm on its request to see additional documentation from ownership. As things currently stand, it’s hard to believe the league will consider the reported union counter any more than the union considered the owners’ sliding scale. Significant ground needs to be covered before an agreement is reached.
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              • Chi_archie
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 07-22-08
                • 63165

                #1722
                Originally posted by BigSpoon
                Scott Boras telling his clients to not 'bail out' the MLB owners. I don't have my hopes up for any MLB in 2020.

                this is not good
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                • stevenash
                  Moderator
                  • 01-17-11
                  • 65170

                  #1723
                  On this date May 28, 2013 exactly 1 year ago, Ryan Zimmerman of the Washington Nationals (and still of the Washington Nationals) blasted three home runs against the Baltimore Orioles driving in four.

                  It wasn't enough as the Nationals still lost the game 9-6.
                  The other Zimmerman (Jordan) took the loss for the Nats.


                  Batting AB R H RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS Details
                  Denard Span CF 4 1 1 1 0 0 0.271 0.329 0.352 0.68 2B
                  Roger Bernadina RF 4 1 1 1 0 1 0.149 0.213 0.27 0.483 HR
                  Ryan Zimmerman 3B 4 3 3 4 0 1 0.298 0.383 0.489 0.872 3·HR
                  Adam LaRoche 1B 3 0 1 0 1 1 0.244 0.328 0.459 0.788
                  Ian Desmond SS 3 0 1 0 1 1 0.26 0.295 0.449 0.744
                  Tyler Moore LF 4 0 0 0 0 2 0.149 0.202 0.276 0.478 GDP
                  Chad Tracy DH 4 0 0 0 0 0 0.17 0.22 0.234 0.454
                  Kurt Suzuki C 4 0 0 0 0 1 0.248 0.319 0.355 0.674
                  Danny Espinosa 2B 4 1 1 0 0 3 0.166 0.197 0.29 0.487
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                  • Otters27
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 07-14-07
                    • 30749

                    #1724
                    Originally posted by mr. leisure
                    Manny Ramirez
                    Yep. Only reason I know I'd from his baseball rookie card.

                    Just can't remember if he was drafted in 90 or 91
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                    • stevenash
                      Moderator
                      • 01-17-11
                      • 65170

                      #1725
                      Originally posted by Otters27
                      Yep. Only reason I know I'd from his baseball rookie card.

                      Just can't remember if he was drafted in 90 or 91
                      Manny has a few screws loose.
                      Comment
                      • koz-man
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 11-21-08
                        • 7102

                        #1726
                        Minor League Baseball cuts hundreds of players amid pandemic, sources say


                        Hundreds of minor league baseball players were cut Thursday and hundreds more are expected to lose their jobs as the sport grapples with the near certainty that the minor league season will be canceled, sources told ESPN.

                        Team officials said a vast majority of the players likely would have been released toward the end of spring training even if baseball hadn't been halted by the coronavirus pandemic, according to sources. But the cuts en masse, which could wind up numbering more than 1,000, nevertheless reverberated around the game, sources said.

                        Released players expressed fear that their careers would be over, and those whose teams hadn't yet made cuts prepared for a tenuous next few days, sources said.

                        In recent weeks, owners of minor league teams have begun laying off front-office and game-day workers and citing the cancellation of the season as the reason, according to sources. The minor league baseball season has not officially been canceled, according to a spokesperson, though the suspension of the Professional Baseball Agreement that governs the minor leagues' relationship with Major League Baseball precludes big league organizations from providing players to their minor league affiliates.

                        Major League Baseball commissioner Rob Manfred said he would inform Minor League Baseball if and when players would be allowed to join affiliated teams. He has yet to do so. Even with no players available, teams acting as if the season is over and one team renting out its stadium on Airbnb, Minor League Baseball president Pat O'Conner has yet to speak publicly and acknowledge the foregone conclusion for 2020, and the fallout from it.
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                        • JMobile
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 08-21-10
                          • 19070

                          #1727
                          David Price is gonna give $1k to each minor leaguer in the Dodgers system. What a guy.
                          Comment
                          • stevenash
                            Moderator
                            • 01-17-11
                            • 65170

                            #1728
                            Originally posted by JMobile
                            David Price is gonna give $1k to each minor leaguer in the Dodgers system. What a guy.
                            He was always classy like that.

                            Did you know he's 150 and 80 lifetime?
                            That's an impressive won/loss record.

                            If you have a live left arm and sport a 150 and 80 record you can make over 200 million dollars in your career.




                            Year Age Tm Salary SrvTm Sources Notes/Other Sources
                            2007 21 Tampa Bay Devil Rays $500,000 ?
                            2008 22 Tampa Bay Rays $650,000 ?
                            2009 23 Tampa Bay Rays $750,000 ?
                            2010 24 Tampa Bay Rays $1,834,671 0.164
                            2011 25 Tampa Bay Rays $2,084,671 1.164
                            2012 26 Tampa Bay Rays $4,350,000 2.164 contracts
                            2013 27 Tampa Bay Rays $10,112,500 3.164 contracts
                            2014 28 Tampa Bay Rays $14,000,000 4.164 contracts
                            2015 29 Detroit Tigers $19,750,000 5.164 contracts
                            2016 30 Boston Red Sox $30,000,000 6.164
                            2017 31 Boston Red Sox $30,000,000 7.164 contracts
                            2018 32 Boston Red Sox $30,000,000 8.164
                            2019 33 Boston Red Sox $31,000,000 9.164 contract
                            2020 34 Los Angeles Dodgers $32,000,000 10.164 $16M paid by Boston Red Sox
                            2021 35 Los Angeles Dodgers $32,000,000 $16M paid by Boston Red Sox
                            2022 36 Los Angeles Dodgers $32,000,000 $16M paid by Boston Red Sox
                            Earliest Free Agent: 2023
                            Career to date (may be incomplete) $207,031,842 Does not include future salaries ($64M)
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                            • jrgum3
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 07-21-17
                              • 7005

                              #1729
                              Originally posted by stevenash
                              Manny has a few screws loose.
                              Yeah he was crazy for sure but man was he ever fun to watch hit. I loved that team he was on when he was with Cleveland too bad they couldn't get it done in the 95 World Series because that team was awesome.
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                              • Otters27
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 07-14-07
                                • 30749

                                #1730
                                Originally posted by jrgum3
                                Yeah he was crazy for sure but man was he ever fun to watch hit. I loved that team he was on when he was with Cleveland too bad they couldn't get it done in the 95 World Series because that team was awesome.
                                Kenny Loftan and Albert Belle
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                                • ApricotSinner32
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 11-28-10
                                  • 10648

                                  #1731
                                  Originally posted by EmpireMaker
                                  The MLBPA’s counter-proposal to the league’s economic plan is expected to be sent this week and, according to multiple reports, it will wholly reject the sliding scale mechanism offered Tuesday by ownership. Ken Rosenthal and Evan Drellich of The Athletic report that the players will not budge on prorated salaries and will instead counter with a longer season — likely in the range of 100 games. Ken Davidoff and Joel Sherman of the New York Post suggest that the proposal will include more than 100 games, with Sherman tweeting separately that the union could seek to play as many as 110 games. Doing so would seemingly require pushing regular-season play into October.
                                  It’s not clear at this point what compromises will be offered by the Players Association. Sherman and Davidoff indicate that “many” members of the union appear open to deferring salaries beyond 2020, though, which could help ownership to avoid an upfront hit. Rosenthal and Drellich detail some other potential compromises that have been “loosely” discussed.
                                  League owners have contended that losses without fans in attendance could be so great that it’s not worth playing games if players are paid at prorated levels. A presentation was made to the MLBPA at one point in an effort to illustrate those claims, but the players’ side has remained skeptical. ESPN’s Jeff Passan writes that the union recently submitted another request for documentation providing transparency into local and national television revenue, sponsorship revenue and projections from teams. The union also did so back in March.
                                  Clearly, the league has not accommodated that request. Max Scherzer, one of eight players constituting the MLBPA executive subcommittee, tweeted a firm aversion to even “engag[ing] with MLB in any further compensation reductions” and adding that “MLB’s economic strategy would completely change if all documentation were to become public information.”
                                  While both sides are surely motivated to eventually resume play, both have put forth offers that will obviously be rejected by the other party. The players “essentially pledged to ignore the league’s proposal and instead offer one of their own,” Passan writes, illustrating the extent of the MLBPA’s dissatisfaction with the sliding scale. And if the league contends that prorated salaries without fans would require operating at a loss on a per-game basis, owners are likely to be equally dismissive of an expanded schedule without further salary reduction.
                                  So, is there a middle ground to be reached at all?
                                  The players feel that the league’s proposal effectively asks them to take an average 38 percent pay cut on top of the prorated salaries to which they’ve already agreed, as FiveThirtyEight’s Travis Sawchik recently outlined (Twitter thread). The hit would’ve been larger for baseball’s best-paid players, of course; the game’s highest-paid players would earn in the $$6-7MM range prior to postseason bonuses. League-minimum and pre-arbitration players would’ve taken a lesser hit but still received only about 46 percent of their full-season salary (92 percent of their prorated salary).
                                  Sawchik suggests a 19 percent cut from prorated salaries would be a middle ground, so it’s perhaps no surprise that The Athletic report contains speculation about players taking an 81-game prorated salary but still playing 100 total games. That arrangement would amount to players taking a 19 percent hit on top of their prorated agreement.
                                  The strong language from Scherzer last night casts some doubt upon whether the players will genuinely consider additional cuts, especially if the union plans to truly hold firm on its request to see additional documentation from ownership. As things currently stand, it’s hard to believe the league will consider the reported union counter any more than the union considered the owners’ sliding scale. Significant ground needs to be covered before an agreement is reached.
                                  hm.......................
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                                  • JAKEPEAVY21
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 03-11-11
                                    • 29217

                                    #1732
                                    Originally posted by Cross
                                    Tired of waiting around for mlb, this sucks. Greedy owners, not blaming players at all.
                                    Why should the players get 100% of salary if owners are taking it in the shorts and no fans at the games? Looks like these greedy players might forgo the season. Many fans will move on from baseball if they do not play due to money.
                                    Comment
                                    • koz-man
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 11-21-08
                                      • 7102

                                      #1733
                                      Today in Baseball History
                                      May 30th

                                      After ending a streak of five straight losses to the Yankees, Red Sox ace Pedro Martinez makes light of the Curse of the Bambino by suggesting someone should wake up the Babe so he could drill him with a pitch.

                                      Boston will not beat the Bronx Bombers again during their final seven meetings of the season.

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                                      • Stallion
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 03-21-10
                                        • 3617

                                        #1734
                                        So there will be a season, how much did the players give up??
                                        Comment
                                        • EmpireMaker
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 06-18-09
                                          • 15562

                                          #1735
                                          Three weeks ago, it appeared Alex Rodriguez no longer had any hope of purchasing the Mets. However, it now looks as if he and famous fiancee Jennifer Lopez have re-entered the picture. According to Thornton McEnery of the New York Post, Rodriguez, Lopez and some of JPMorgan Chase’s “very senior bankers” are working on putting together a bid to buy the franchise from current owners Fred Wilpon and Jeff Wilpon.
                                          This is clearly a serious attempt from Rodriguez and Lopez, who McEnery hears are putting in “hundreds of millions” of their own dollars to land the Mets. It’s unclear exactly who else would be part of a Rodriguez-Lopez ownership group – Wayne Rothbaum was said to be in the mix earlier, but it doesn’t seem that’s the case anymore – though they have been talking with New England Patriots owners Bob Kraft and Jonathan Kraft. The Krafts don’t want to buy a baseball team, yet they’re “very intrigued” with the plans Rodriguez and Lopez have to breathe new life into Citi Field and its surrounding areas, McEnery details in his piece.
                                          Regardless of whether the Krafts do accompany Rodriguez and Lopez, a source told McEnery that “the money is there,” that “a bid is coming,” and odds are the Mets will go for less than $2 billion if they do change hands. Furthermore, while the Wilpons have been reluctant to give up any part of the SNY television network in a sale, it seems they’re more open to it now. The Wilpons would still want to keep some portion of SNY in giving up the Mets, however, McEnery reports.
                                          The coronavirus shutdown could continue to lead to major financial losses for the Wilpons, who may reportedly lose up to $150MM even during a half-season. That could increase their urgency to sell the team, and it now looks possible that Rodriguez and Lopez will swoop in if the Wilpons do step away.
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                                          • EmpireMaker
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 06-18-09
                                            • 15562

                                            #1736
                                            The MLBPA’s counter-proposal to the league’s economic plan is expected to be sent this week and, according to multiple reports, it will wholly reject the sliding scale mechanism offered Tuesday by ownership. Ken Rosenthal and Evan Drellich of The Athletic report that the players will not budge on prorated salaries and will instead counter with a longer season — likely in the range of 100 games. Ken Davidoff and Joel Sherman of the New York Post suggest that the proposal will include more than 100 games, with Sherman tweeting separately that the union could seek to play as many as 110 games. Doing so would seemingly require pushing regular-season play into October.
                                            It’s not clear at this point what compromises will be offered by the Players Association. Sherman and Davidoff indicate that “many” members of the union appear open to deferring salaries beyond 2020, though, which could help ownership to avoid an upfront hit. Rosenthal and Drellich detail some other potential compromises that have been “loosely” discussed.
                                            League owners have contended that losses without fans in attendance could be so great that it’s not worth playing games if players are paid at prorated levels. A presentation was made to the MLBPA at one point in an effort to illustrate those claims, but the players’ side has remained skeptical. ESPN’s Jeff Passan writes that the union recently submitted another request for documentation providing transparency into local and national television revenue, sponsorship revenue and projections from teams. The union also did so back in March.
                                            Clearly, the league has not accommodated that request. Max Scherzer, one of eight players constituting the MLBPA executive subcommittee, tweeted a firm aversion to even “engag[ing] with MLB in any further compensation reductions” and adding that “MLB’s economic strategy would completely change if all documentation were to become public information.”
                                            While both sides are surely motivated to eventually resume play, both have put forth offers that will obviously be rejected by the other party. The players “essentially pledged to ignore the league’s proposal and instead offer one of their own,” Passan writes, illustrating the extent of the MLBPA’s dissatisfaction with the sliding scale. And if the league contends that prorated salaries without fans would require operating at a loss on a per-game basis, owners are likely to be equally dismissive of an expanded schedule without further salary reduction.
                                            So, is there a middle ground to be reached at all?
                                            The players feel that the league’s proposal effectively asks them to take an average 38 percent pay cut on top of the prorated salaries to which they’ve already agreed, as FiveThirtyEight’s Travis Sawchik recently outlined (Twitter thread). The hit would’ve been larger for baseball’s best-paid players, of course; the game’s highest-paid players would earn in the $$6-7MM range prior to postseason bonuses. League-minimum and pre-arbitration players would’ve taken a lesser hit but still received only about 46 percent of their full-season salary (92 percent of their prorated salary).
                                            Sawchik suggests a 19 percent cut from prorated salaries would be a middle ground, so it’s perhaps no surprise that The Athletic report contains speculation about players taking an 81-game prorated salary but still playing 100 total games. That arrangement would amount to players taking a 19 percent hit on top of their prorated agreement.
                                            The strong language from Scherzer last night casts some doubt upon whether the players will genuinely consider additional cuts, especially if the union plans to truly hold firm on its request to see additional documentation from ownership. As things currently stand, it’s hard to believe the league will consider the reported union counter any more than the union considered the owners’ sliding scale. Significant ground needs to be covered before an agreement is reached.
                                            Comment
                                            • BigSpoon
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 11-04-10
                                              • 4113

                                              #1737
                                              Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                              Why should the players get 100% of salary if owners are taking it in the shorts and no fans at the games? Looks like these greedy players might forgo the season. Many fans will move on from baseball if they do not play due to money.
                                              The fans have come back, even after seasons were cancelled. 1994 MLB and 2004 NHL seasons.
                                              Comment
                                              • Chi_archie
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 07-22-08
                                                • 63165

                                                #1738
                                                Originally posted by BigSpoon
                                                The fans have come back, even after seasons were cancelled. 1994 MLB and 2004 NHL seasons.

                                                True

                                                More options now though
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                                                • stevenash
                                                  Moderator
                                                  • 01-17-11
                                                  • 65170

                                                  #1739
                                                  Originally posted by Otters27
                                                  Kenny Loftan and Albert Belle
                                                  Albert Belle had a few screws loose too.
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                                                  • JMobile
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 08-21-10
                                                    • 19070

                                                    #1740
                                                    Originally posted by Stallion
                                                    So there will be a season, how much did the players give up??
                                                    Dunno. But minor leaguers are not getting paid .
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                                                    • jrgum3
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 07-21-17
                                                      • 7005

                                                      #1741
                                                      Originally posted by BigSpoon
                                                      The fans have come back, even after seasons were cancelled. 1994 MLB and 2004 NHL seasons.
                                                      If there is no season this time I think it will take a lot for people to come back to baseball as opposed to last time there was a cancellation of the season and World Series.
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                                                      • EmpireMaker
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 06-18-09
                                                        • 15562

                                                        #1742
                                                        Yesterday brought a slew of news regarding minor league ballplayers. Players like T.J. Rivera, Carlos Asuaje and Juremi Profar were returned to the free-agent pool after rounds of cuts from their minor league teams. There was also a smattering of good news, including a report of David Price giving $1K to each minor leaguer on the Dodgers’ 40-man roster.
                                                        Today brings a new round of news about how teams are deciding to treat their minor league players during this trying time. While these cuts seem gaudy, it’s important to note that most teams waited on their spring training cuts, actually extending the pay for many of the players now being cut loose. Every year a round of these cuts occur, and it’s not solely an effect of the coronavirus shutdown. That said, Baseball America’s JJ Cooper is compiling a running list of the number of players released by each organization and comparing those numbers to their releases in 2019 and 2018. As news continues to filter out little by little about each organization’s cuts, let’s try to round up some of that info here…
                                                        National League
                                                        • The Giants cut 20 players from their minor league system on Thursday, per Henry Schulman of the San Francisco Chronicle.
                                                        • The Diamondbacks have been the most egregious offenders in this department with 62 players released, as noted by Cooper, while MLB Network’s Jon Heyman had the number of Dback releases at 64.
                                                        • It’s not clear if we have the entire list of minor league players released by the Rockies, but The Athletic’s Nick Groke has a list of 15 players with confirmed releases. Groke notes that the Rockies refused comment or confirmation.
                                                        • Cooper also listed the 30 players released by the Braves this week. He notes 31 released last year at this time and 24 the year before.
                                                        • The Mets released 39 players, including right-hander Nick Rumbelow, formerly of the Yankees and Mariners. The Mets, of course, are weighing options in terms of selling the franchise after reporting losses of up to $150MM even if an 82-game season eventually gets underway.
                                                        • The Phillies released T.J. Rivera, but a comprehensive list of players released by the Phillies isn’t yet known.
                                                        • Jim Goulart of Brewerfan.net tweets a list of 30 minor leaguers released by the Brewers thus far, though the list may be incomplete. Goulart compiled the list from milb.com. Veteran Andres Blanco was among those released.
                                                        • The Cubstotal list of releases reached 28 by the end of the day yesterday, with Brock Stewart and Asuaje two of the better-known names.
                                                        • The Reds, Nationals, and Cardinals are said to have released payers, but the number of players released isn’t clear at this time. Big picture, the Reds have committed to paying their remaining minor leaguers through the end of the minor league season in early September.
                                                        • The Pirates have yet to release any minor league players, according to Rob Biertempfel of The Athletic, though he adds that the club is still deliberating on roster moves so such a decision can’t be ruled out. Meanwhile, Pittsburgh has committed to paying players through at least June.

                                                        American League
                                                        • The Rays released “20 or so” players, as per Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times.
                                                        • The Mariners released more than 50 minor leaguers.
                                                        • The Astros released 17 players, all listed here in a tweet from Baseball America’s JJ Cooper. Cooper recalls the Astros number of player cuts from past years, comparing this year’s 18 released players in March through May to 10 players released in 2019 and 24 in 2018.
                                                        • The Orioles cuts came out early, with 37 players listed.
                                                        • The White Sox let go of 25 players, including Josue Guerrero.
                                                        • The Red Sox released 22 players, with Nick Lovullo and Profar two players with some name recognition who are among those released.
                                                        • The Twins and Royals are bringing the best bit of news, as neither organization has made cuts to their minor leaguer systems. Given the number of releases league-wide, it’s a notable decision from these clubs.
                                                        • The Athletics, meanwhile, have informed their minor leaguers that their pay will be suspended as of May 31.
                                                        • The Blue Jays have released 29 minor league players, according to Shi Davidi of Sportsnet. On the bright side, retained players will be paid through the end of June.

                                                        On the plus side, teams like the Marlins, Padres, and Mariners will pay their minor leaguers through the end of the season, though releases are still considered a normal course of business. Many clubs have committed to paying their minor leaguers either through the end of June or the end of August.
                                                        The Athletic’s Alec Lewis shed some light on the Royals’ mindset, providing a quote from Royals GM Dayton Moore (via Twitter). Among other insights, Moore said, “…we felt it was really, really important not to release one minor league player during this time, a time we needed to stand behind them.”
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                                                        • Chi_archie
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 07-22-08
                                                          • 63165

                                                          #1743
                                                          Originally posted by EmpireMaker
                                                          Yesterday brought a slew of news regarding minor league ballplayers. Players like T.J. Rivera, Carlos Asuaje and Juremi Profar were returned to the free-agent pool after rounds of cuts from their minor league teams. There was also a smattering of good news, including a report of David Price giving $1K to each minor leaguer on the Dodgers’ 40-man roster.
                                                          Today brings a new round of news about how teams are deciding to treat their minor league players during this trying time. While these cuts seem gaudy, it’s important to note that most teams waited on their spring training cuts, actually extending the pay for many of the players now being cut loose. Every year a round of these cuts occur, and it’s not solely an effect of the coronavirus shutdown. That said, Baseball America’s JJ Cooper is compiling a running list of the number of players released by each organization and comparing those numbers to their releases in 2019 and 2018. As news continues to filter out little by little about each organization’s cuts, let’s try to round up some of that info here…
                                                          National League
                                                          • The Giants cut 20 players from their minor league system on Thursday, per Henry Schulman of the San Francisco Chronicle.
                                                          • The Diamondbacks have been the most egregious offenders in this department with 62 players released, as noted by Cooper, while MLB Network’s Jon Heyman had the number of Dback releases at 64.
                                                          • It’s not clear if we have the entire list of minor league players released by the Rockies, but The Athletic’s Nick Groke has a list of 15 players with confirmed releases. Groke notes that the Rockies refused comment or confirmation.
                                                          • Cooper also listed the 30 players released by the Braves this week. He notes 31 released last year at this time and 24 the year before.
                                                          • The Mets released 39 players, including right-hander Nick Rumbelow, formerly of the Yankees and Mariners. The Mets, of course, are weighing options in terms of selling the franchise after reporting losses of up to $150MM even if an 82-game season eventually gets underway.
                                                          • The Phillies released T.J. Rivera, but a comprehensive list of players released by the Phillies isn’t yet known.
                                                          • Jim Goulart of Brewerfan.net tweets a list of 30 minor leaguers released by the Brewers thus far, though the list may be incomplete. Goulart compiled the list from milb.com. Veteran Andres Blanco was among those released.
                                                          • The Cubstotal list of releases reached 28 by the end of the day yesterday, with Brock Stewart and Asuaje two of the better-known names.
                                                          • The Reds, Nationals, and Cardinals are said to have released payers, but the number of players released isn’t clear at this time. Big picture, the Reds have committed to paying their remaining minor leaguers through the end of the minor league season in early September.
                                                          • The Pirates have yet to release any minor league players, according to Rob Biertempfel of The Athletic, though he adds that the club is still deliberating on roster moves so such a decision can’t be ruled out. Meanwhile, Pittsburgh has committed to paying players through at least June.

                                                          American League
                                                          • The Rays released “20 or so” players, as per Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times.
                                                          • The Mariners released more than 50 minor leaguers.
                                                          • The Astros released 17 players, all listed here in a tweet from Baseball America’s JJ Cooper. Cooper recalls the Astros number of player cuts from past years, comparing this year’s 18 released players in March through May to 10 players released in 2019 and 24 in 2018.
                                                          • The Orioles cuts came out early, with 37 players listed.
                                                          • The White Sox let go of 25 players, including Josue Guerrero.
                                                          • The Red Sox released 22 players, with Nick Lovullo and Profar two players with some name recognition who are among those released.
                                                          • The Twins and Royals are bringing the best bit of news, as neither organization has made cuts to their minor leaguer systems. Given the number of releases league-wide, it’s a notable decision from these clubs.
                                                          • The Athletics, meanwhile, have informed their minor leaguers that their pay will be suspended as of May 31.
                                                          • The Blue Jays have released 29 minor league players, according to Shi Davidi of Sportsnet. On the bright side, retained players will be paid through the end of June.

                                                          On the plus side, teams like the Marlins, Padres, and Mariners will pay their minor leaguers through the end of the season, though releases are still considered a normal course of business. Many clubs have committed to paying their minor leaguers either through the end of June or the end of August.
                                                          The Athletic’s Alec Lewis shed some light on the Royals’ mindset, providing a quote from Royals GM Dayton Moore (via Twitter). Among other insights, Moore said, “…we felt it was really, really important not to release one minor league player during this time, a time we needed to stand behind them.”

                                                          wow the cheap Pirates holding out hope
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                                                          • JAKEPEAVY21
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 03-11-11
                                                            • 29217

                                                            #1744
                                                            Originally posted by BigSpoon
                                                            The fans have come back, even after seasons were cancelled. 1994 MLB and 2004 NHL seasons.
                                                            I guess that is what they are banking on...I won't spend a dime on anything MLB if they CHOOSE not to play.
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                                                            • Otters27
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 07-14-07
                                                              • 30749

                                                              #1745
                                                              Originally posted by jrgum3
                                                              If there is no season this time I think it will take a lot for people to come back to baseball as opposed to last time there was a cancellation of the season and World Series.
                                                              All sports will take lots of time for people to come back
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                                                              • Stallion
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 03-21-10
                                                                • 3617

                                                                #1746
                                                                Originally posted by Otters27
                                                                All sports will take lots of time for people to come back
                                                                Agreed,
                                                                It's not like 1994 for MLB and 2004 for NHL, we are in a pandemic; Social distancing will be around for a while.
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                                                                • stevenash
                                                                  Moderator
                                                                  • 01-17-11
                                                                  • 65170

                                                                  #1747
                                                                  On this day May 31, 2008 exactly 12 years ago today, the aforementioned Manny Ramirez of the Boston Red Sox homered off of Chad Bradford of the Baltimore Orioles to become the 24th player ever to hit 500 MLB career home runs.

                                                                  Also o
                                                                  n this day May 31, 2008 the Chicago Cubs won their game to become 36 and 21.
                                                                  This the first time in 100 years the Cubs have the best record in MLB entering June 1.
                                                                  (Chew on that one)
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                                                                  • BigSpoon
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 11-04-10
                                                                    • 4113

                                                                    #1748
                                                                    When live sports are back people will still watch and gamble.
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                                                                    • stevenash
                                                                      Moderator
                                                                      • 01-17-11
                                                                      • 65170

                                                                      #1749
                                                                      Originally posted by BigSpoon
                                                                      When live sports are back people will still watch and gamble.
                                                                      Of course they will.
                                                                      If ESPN televised two flys people will wager on which fly lands on the wall first.

                                                                      ”if it moves you can bet on it”
                                                                      Mo the Bartender
                                                                      -The Simpsons
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                                                                      • Cross
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 04-15-11
                                                                        • 5777

                                                                        #1750
                                                                        Peavy defending those greedy owners again. Players not asking for 100% of salaries, just something fair. David Price shouldn’t be paying out of his pocket to pay minor leaguers when owners have billions.
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