SBR Fantasy Football League II 2019

[funnyb25]

Why is someone else's trade showing up in the league? What 2 teams want to do shouldn't be anyone else's business

Ya, they make it so people can vote against the trade to prevent collusion

[allabout the $$$]

Funny you did a terrible job drafting

[funnyb25]

LoL

[LT Profits]

Hopefully Thursday Night Football is a complete snoozefest from a fantasy perspective because half of LT's team is in action. I only have Carolina's kicker so hopefully I don't fall too far behind.

Olsen for MVP! lol

Hope I don't regret benching Winston for Ryan.

[wquine]

I can move on from Calvin Ridley if anyone wants?

[thechaoz]

Why is someone else's trade showing up in the league? What 2 teams want to do shouldn't be anyone else's business

It's our business.

quine	-	even	0.08	-0.30	-8.20	-1.48	-6.41	3.37	-0.04	0.61	0.27	8.15	-1.83	-1.67	-1.08	0.46	-8.07
Legions	-	even	8.87	8.47	8.92	10.92	6.09	-0.64	0.67	-1.42	-1.51	-9.56	0.96	0.11	1.15	-0.69	+32.34

[thechaoz]

Olsen for MVP! lol

Hope I don't regret benching Winston for Ryan.

I benched Winston for Brady in Mpasch league. I think I'll be ok

[allabout the $$$]

It's our business.

quine	-	even	0.08	-0.30	-8.20	-1.48	-6.41	3.37	-0.04	0.61	0.27	8.15	-1.83	-1.67	-1.08	0.46	-8.07
Legions	-	even	8.87	8.47	8.92	10.92	6.09	-0.64	0.67	-1.42	-1.51	-9.56	0.96	0.11	1.15	-0.69	+32.34

from a #'s perspective looks lopsided. have to see the players involved for a true opinion

[allabout the $$$]

Why is someone else's trade showing up in the league? What 2 teams want to do shouldn't be anyone else's business

for someone who says they are in other leagues, you should know every league does this to avoid collusion.

[LT Profits]

Why is someone else's trade showing up in the league? What 2 teams want to do shouldn't be anyone else's business

Everyone sees all pending trades so that they can veto if they choose to.

[LT Profits]

I can move on from Calvin Ridley if anyone wants?

You have a proposal

[wquine]

You have a proposal

Seems kind of like a side step for both of us. So I guess now Golladay will be on the block whenever I get him.

[Legions36]

from a #'s perspective looks lopsided. have to see the players involved for a true opinion

I don't understand the trade looks fair to me? I need a TE and he could use the WR plus we are both giving up our first round players... Im not making a trade for Njoku alone.

[jrgum3]

I honestly don't think the David Johnson/Njoku for Allen Robinson/Chubb trade is a bad trade but I'm pretty high on Chubb despite his bad game in week 1. I also am not as high on David Johnson even though he crushed it in week 1. We'll see though but for me I'm not vetoing this one.

[allabout the $$$]

I don't understand the trade looks fair to me? I need a TE and he could use the WR plus we are both giving up our first round players... Im not making a trade for Njoku alone.

+32 -8 on the ratings looks lopsided thats why i said i needed to see the players.

now that ive seen the players i dont think this is a trade that should be vetoed.

[LT Profits]

Right, you can't just go by Yahoo ratings. They always said I reached badly when I took Ekeler in the fifth round every time I got him.

[thechaoz]

We're gunna start off like this? Getting flashbacks of Fireskrill dumpster fire league last year..

So lopsided

[allabout the $$$]

We're gunna start off like this? Getting flashbacks of Fireskrill dumpster fire league last year..

So lopsided

its 2 #1 backs a starting te and starting wr where is it lopsided

[allabout the $$$]

We're gunna start off like this? Getting flashbacks of Fireskrill dumpster fire league last year..

So lopsided

if enough guys in the league feel that way the trade will be vetoed vote no to the trade. i definitely dont see it as 1 sided

[shadymcgrady]

League votes is ridiculous. Everyone has an opinion and an agenda but the only ones that matter are the teams involved in the trade.

Almost every trade should not be vetoed by commissioners either. Every owner has his/her right to whatever players they want to pursue.

Collusion is difficult to prove and can only ever be suspected, circumstantial evidence at best

[allabout the $$$]

League votes is ridiculous. Everyone has an opinion and an agenda but the only ones that matter are the teams involved in the trade.

Almost every trade should not be vetoed by commissioners either. Every owner has his/her right to whatever players they want to pursue.

Collusion is difficult to prove and can only ever be suspected, circumstantial evidence at best

so trading barkley for donald would be ok with you?

[GzaTheGenius]

Trade looked fine to me..

Obv DJ is the better RB , but it goes down to positions needed and if one guy feels giving up more is better for them, it should be okay

[shadymcgrady]

Trade looked fine to me..

Obv DJ is the better RB , but it goes down to positions needed and if one guy feels giving up more is better for them, it should be okay

I thought the team getting Chubb got the better end of the deal, further proving that everyone has their own wildly varying opinion

[shadymcgrady]

so trading barkley for donald would be ok with you?

Aaron Donald is a defensive tackle, we don't play with IDPs herr but in an IDP heavy league or other leagues of mine with keepers that kind of trade would usually include future draft picks

[wquine]

We still talking about that trade? I could flip Njoku bc Hockensen showed out so he was surplus for me and I got a plug and play wr. I know Chubb had a bad first game but hoping Ten front 7 is for real. Legions got more help but far from uneven, surprised there's a discussion on this. I guess its good bc any lobsided trade will be def be vetoed in this league!

[convick]

Johnson is a top 10 player, based strictly on rankings.

Chubb is top 15 and easily picked in the first round in many leagues.

Not that lopsided and no collusion.

I also feel Chubb/Robinson is the better half of the trade.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

veto it just to piss on their parade

[thechaoz]

Johnson is a top 10 player, based strictly on rankings.

Chubb is top 15 and easily picked in the first round in many leagues.

Not that lopsided and no collusion.

I also feel Chubb/Robinson is the better half of the trade.

RB1 and RB2 are very very different in fantasy football.

[thechaoz]

League votes is ridiculous. Everyone has an opinion and an agenda but the only ones that matter are the teams involved in the trade.

Almost every trade should not be vetoed by commissioners either. Every owner has his/her right to whatever players they want to pursue.

Collusion is difficult to prove and can only ever be suspected, circumstantial evidence at best

I could not possibly disagree more.

In fires league last year a guy was done with playoffs. A trade was to fire (Winston and Fournette), from fire (some bum WR4).

It went through because no one was "involved" in the league despite a heated debate afterwards.

It was clear and absolute collusion. Ended up "Fixing" his team and he finished in the playoffs somewhere.

I like you shady but I have a feeling you've never really played in Fantasy football seriously because this is a laughable statement.

[LT Profits]

RB1 and RB2 are very very different in fantasy football.

But there are both RB1s, doubt it gets enough Veto votes. Nor should it.

[LT Profits]

Johnson is a top 10 player, based strictly on rankings.

Chubb is top 15 and easily picked in the first round in many leagues.

Not that lopsided and no collusion.

I also feel Chubb/Robinson is the better half of the trade.

Chubb is also top 10, there RBs were drafted within a few spots of each other in first round, which was consistent with most preseason projections,

[convick]

RB1 and RB2 are very very different in fantasy football.

Well, what do you consider RB1? The top 12 RBs over the year? Both are projected to be top 10 RBs.

[shadymcgrady]

I could not possibly disagree more.

In fires league last year a guy was done with playoffs. A trade was to fire (Winston and Fournette), from fire (some bum WR4).

It went through because no one was "involved" in the league despite a heated debate afterwards.

It was clear and absolute collusion. Ended up "Fixing" his team and he finished in the playoffs somewhere.

I like you shady but I have a feeling you've never really played in Fantasy football seriously because this is a laughable statement.

Your opinion is your own but you couldn't be more incorrect in your statement about my fantasy experience.

I've played in more complex leagues than most likely anyone here for over 15 yrs. Hybrid auction drafts, round based keepers, 11 man IDPs, 2 QBs, bonus scoring, special teams stats, etc.

You name it I've done it, friends leagues and co worker leagues where everyone knows everyone. There is no shady (no pun intended) deals bc everyone are pals and know each other. Guys fly in from all over for the draft every year.

Many trades involve keeper potential aspirations and draft picks or auction dollars for the draft. There is no such thing as collusion in my leagues bc precautions were taken to ensure it from the contenders to the pretenders. There is always an angle or long game

[jrgum3]

Chubb was drafted in the first round so obviously people thought enough of him to value him as a RB1. He had a bad first game but I think he'll get going soon. In fact, I thought very hard about taking him with the 9th pick in the draft but I went Juju because I think he'll eventually pay me off as a top 5 WR. That's why I don't think this trade should be vetoed.

[thechaoz]

Your opinion is your own but you couldn't be more incorrect in your statement about my fantasy experience.

I've played in more complex leagues than most likely anyone here for over 15 yrs. Hybrid auction drafts, round based keepers, 11 man IDPs, 2 QBs, bonus scoring, special teams stats, etc.

You name it I've done it, friends leagues and co worker leagues where everyone knows everyone. There is no shady (no pun intended) deals bc everyone are pals and know each other. Guys fly in from all over for the draft every year.

Many trades involve keeper potential aspirations and draft picks or auction dollars for the draft. There is no such thing as collusion in my leagues bc precautions were taken to ensure it from the contenders to the pretenders. There is always an angle or long game

Right, so as I've read it, you have vast experience and there is no collusion in your leagues.These are your friends and people you've known for a long time who you trust.

I'm referring to a bunch of randos on an SBR forum league, which has no bearing on your experience with your friends or relatives or whoever to make not make shady deals.

Feel free to ask guys like Peavs or I think m-pasch was in fire Skrillex league last year, they'll tell you everything you need to know.

The dude straight up change the rules of the league mid-season without asking anyone