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[mpaschal34]

Diggs 17...that’s off. Minny’s plan is to throw the ball 20 times a game and run it 30-40. Not enough volume to be 17. And then there is AB....

I would probably put Hill behind Golladay....and move him up a couple of spots each week as he gets closer to coming back.

[khicks26]

Diggs 17...that’s off. Minny’s plan is to throw the ball 20 times a game and run it 30-40. Not enough volume to be 17. And then there is AB....

I would probably put Hill behind Golladay....and move him up a couple of spots each week as he gets closer to coming back.

Its rankings for Week 3, came out before Brown was cut.


Diggs is about the same player as Hill. But you pretty spot on in your analysis. Like I said ther are about 20 to 25 platers I would rather have on that list. Hill is not one of the best WR's in the league.

[Sam Losco]

he is trying to rationalize a laughable trade, I'm not buying it sorry.

Stirring up drama? Just trying to keep the league fair, if that's dramatic to you sorry pal.

calling him a shot taker... move on you made your points about the trade itself

[JAKEPEAVY21]

calling him a shot taker... move on you made your points about the trade itself

hey dude, ill chime in when I want.

If you don't like it, don't read it or put me on ignore.

good day

[Sam Losco]

hey dude, ill chime in when I want.

If you don't like it, don't read it or put me on ignore.

good day

who pissed in your cereal this morning?

[thechaoz]

he is trying to rationalize a laughable trade, I'm not buying it sorry.

Stirring up drama? Just trying to keep the league fair, if that's dramatic to you sorry pal.

AHHH Peavs fired up. I love it!

[DJ Dalamar]

WOW, there really is no talking to you guys.


At this point there are about 20 to 25 WR's I would rather have than Hill. Fact is: the guy is hurt, plays on a team with not enough balls to go around, has off field issues & plays for a team that will cut him if its a problem. He's Boom Bust & might not help my team at all.

I really did think about rejecting his offer. Nor would I veto one of the trades you offered in your so called sarcasm post.


This is the reason I don't run leagues anymore. People just don't get it.


Who knows, you guys may have done me a favor.

You saw it about the same way I did. Hill for Duke in a vacuum is a awful trade however in the circumstances you could be really hurt without your RB depth for a potential problem on your bench. Getting RB's from people is tough especially for a problematic WR. I love how Jake was "I'll give you so much better then that garbage." and then offers me even worse garbage and then says it was all sarcasm. Whatever dude.

[khicks26]

You saw it about the same way I did. Hill for Duke in a vacuum is a awful trade however in the circumstances you could be really hurt without your RB depth for a potential problem on your bench. Getting RB's from people is tough especially for a problematic WR. I love how Jake was "I'll give you so much better then that garbage." and then offers me even worse garbage and then says it was all sarcasm. Whatever dude.

LOL, like you said, Hyde could blow out his knee tomorrow. That would make Duke the No.1 on a team that runs the ball a ton, with one of the best fantasy QB's in football. Plus the fact he a pass catching back that could blow up any week. Was it a one sided deal, Yes. Would it have turned out that way? We don't know. Could have ended with you getting a stud back & me getting few good weeks out of Hill. Kind of the reason we play the game. Like you said, go play Best Ball if you don't like trades.

[mpaschal34]

Just saw a rest of the way rankings list....Hill is #18 (pretty much where I had him).

On the flip side D.Johnson was RB#36. Saquon is RB#37....so maybe there can be a DJ for Saquon trade.

[khicks26]

Just saw a rest of the way rankings list....Hill is #18 (pretty much where I had him).

On the flip side D.Johnson was RB#36. Saquon is RB#37....so maybe there can be a DJ for Saquon trade.

DJ's trade offer shows vision, you have to take some chances if you want to win. There was nothing wrong with that trade.


These little spats have a funny way of working themselves out sometimes. This could comeback to haunt someone. Seen it happen many times.

[mpaschal34]

That’s why I rarely reject trades (unless I know direct cheating is involved). Yes there is a good chance Hyde doesn’t pan out and DJ’s value significantly increases.

Thats like me, I’m currently trying to acquire A.Mattison in as many leagues as possible. Yes he’s rated at RB #52 right now. But one injury to Cook (who hasn’t lasted a full season yet), and Mattison is a top 10-15 RB.

[khicks26]

That’s why I rarely reject trades (unless I know direct cheating is involved). Yes there is a good chance Hyde doesn’t pan out and DJ’s value significantly increases.

Thats like me, I’m currently trying to acquire A.Mattison in as many leagues as possible. Yes he’s rated at RB #52 right now. But one injury to Cook (who hasn’t lasted a full season yet), and Mattison is a top 10-15 RB.

Agree, Mattison runs angry & Cook has a history. Wouldn't mind him on my bench either. GL

[mpaschal34]

And they have Gary Kubiak which made Terrell Davis, Arian Foster and several others stars with that zone blocking scheme.

[DJ Dalamar]

I’ll make one more post about this then I will be done. I wouldn’t normally do this but I have this same argument every year so I think I’m done with SBR leagues. What I find ironic about all this is you guys keep saying “Were so much smarter than most leagues that’s why we’re not putting up with this.”

But you’re not.

With the league set up being full PPR with 2 flex my plan going into the draft was to load up on stud WR’s and target the Eckler, Colman, Cohens for my RB’s . That went off the rails quickly because you guys drafted those players WAY above their ADP.

So first week Hill gets injured. It became apparent soon KC really doesn’t NEED him. So there is no reason to rush him back. Even if he’s on the field there is no guarantee he’s anything but a decoy. There is no reason to risk him getting hit they will want him healthy for a playoff run. So every week I’m going to have this start\sit dilemma that I really don’t want to jack with because my depth at WR is good.
When a top guy is injured or underperforming you try and find guys that will be studs BEFORE they become studs. You try and target them on the waiver wire and through trades. You make bold moves hoping one will hit. Otherwise you’re just treading water and hoping the situation will miraculsy fix itself.

12 team with 2 flex the waiver wire is looking awfully thin. I pick up Sproles, but that’s a crowded backfield if he didn’t eat VS Atlanta there is no way to know when he will. Atlanta is dead last for years vs pass catching backs so gotta move Hill and try and get someone that could be something.

I send out a couple higher offers no bites. I make a public post no bites. No one is going to trade me a stud for Hill so I need to go after someone that CAN be a stud. He’s got to be a pass catching back since it’s a full PPR league and someone that has an injury prone back in front of him. I look at White and Cohen. but both are in crowded backfield. I see no easy clear paths for them.
Boom Duke Johnson. He also has Buff defense that has Mia twice in the next few weeks giving me an immediate point boost. He might go for it because he’s 2-0 and can afford to sit on Hill.

You guys: “Nuh Uh! Hill is better than Duke!” Duh Duh Duh.

You guys are getting real football and fantasy football confused. They are two completely separate entities. I wasn’t betting on just Duke Johnson. I was loading up on as many potential studs as I could hoping one of them would hit. That’s all I needed as I was barley losing games and I needed to do something quick. If they don’t I’m still losing games but at least I took a shot.
The way you guys play its just dumb luck on whose team stays the healthiest and who hits the waiver wire lottery. Depending on the league you only have a handful of weeks before your out. You can’t afford to sit on someone like you can in real football. You have to look ahead and try and get guys before they hit so you’re not battling everyone else on the waiver wire. Especially in 12 team/2 flex. If I was even 2-1 I wouldn’t have made the move. I was looking at 1-3 and that 1 was by less than 2 points. If it wasn’t for a last minute Sproles catch I would have been 0-3. I needed every bit of his 2 points.

Anyway I’m done. Every year you guys abuse the veto system and cause drama. It’s there to prevent collusion not to keep trades you don’t like from happening. There was obviously no cheating going on here.

[Mirrapro]

I’ll make one more post about this then I will be done. I wouldn’t normally do this but I have this same argument every year so I think I’m done with SBR leagues. What I find ironic about all this is you guys keep saying “Were so much smarter than most leagues that’s why we’re not putting up with this.”
But you’re not.
With the league set up being full PPR with 2 flex my plan going into the draft was to load up on stud WR’s and target the Eckler, Colman, Cohens for my RB’s . That went off the rails quickly because you guys drafted those players WAY above their ADP.

Maybe the "smart" league understood running backs are more important than WR's overall...MAYBE you aren't as smart as you think? You have to adapt in drafts according to whats being picked. You wanna take chances on backups by giving away your first pick. Other people took chances drafting above ADP while keeping first picks. Big brain moves.

[thechaoz]

I had an A- draft and draft charts with value, percentages, ADP and everything.

So I doubt you're referring to me, but I tried to adjust accordingly with the additional slot.

FF is a lot like poker. There are odds, percentages, Ev etc.

But for a 16 game season, it's such a small sample size anyone can get lucky or really unlucky in such a short amount of time.

I had an A+ killed it draft in SBR 2 and I'm 1-2. Every one of my players underperformed last week and I lost by 13 or some shit.

[mpaschal34]

Looks like 3 teams have a chance for high point week heading into Monday night....this is where we stand:

1. Roadtrip is the favorite as he's projected with 169.11. He currently has 152.25 and is projected at 169 with JuJu left to go.
2. Inspirited is ranked 2nd as he's projected with 163.12 points. He currently has 148 with James Connor left to go.
3. In 3rd is Carolina Daze with 157.9 in the books (and no one left to play)

Good luck to whoever gets high point person.

The bounty of reaching 205.7 or better looks to carry over another week.

[DJ Dalamar]

I was looking good coming into Sunday then I ran into Roadtrips buzz saw RB's. Last week it was the 45 point Russel Wilson I faced. Rough couple of weeks.

[thechaoz]

Going to check my team. Open for trades, but I believe WR is my weak position.

I'll see if I can make any offers that make sense or make me an offer.

BOL gents!

[Roadtrip635]

I was looking good coming into Sunday then I ran into Roadtrips buzz saw RB's. Last week it was the 45 point Russel Wilson I faced. Rough couple of weeks.

I didn't like my chances going into this week either. I had 4 players out due to injuries/suspensions and 2 others injured and probably going to see reduced snaps. I was just trying to field a healthy team and got lucky and guys balled out this weekend.

[mpaschal34]

James Conner comes up big with 26.5 points and Inspirited is the high point team for the week with 174.5 points.

Points have been paid. Congrats!

[Inspirited]

[mpaschal34]

F-me! F-me!

Last night it looks like I queued to drop Ingram instead of Inman during my waiver process. Came home late after working long hours and the fact that someone backed into my 2 month old car at work. So yes, I was a little distracted and rushed trying to get my picks in (for all 10 of my leagues). I know this sucks for everyone as someone will now get an unfair advantage in the league. I'm sorry. It sucks when real life gets in the way of fantasy. So please accept my apologies.

The sad thing is, I can't even put a waiver claim in on him since I was the one who dropped him. F-me!

Gotta go....another long day at work doing end of month reports. Again, I am sorry.

[USCPHILLYGUY]

F-me! F-me!

Last night it looks like I queued to drop Ingram instead of Inman during my waiver process. Came home late after working long hours and the fact that someone backed into my 2 month old car at work. So yes, I was a little distracted and rushed trying to get my picks in (for all 10 of my leagues). I know this sucks for everyone as someone will now get an unfair advantage in the league. I'm sorry. It sucks when real life gets in the way of fantasy. So please accept my apologies.

The sad thing is, I can't even put a waiver claim in on him since I was the one who dropped him. F-me!

Gotta go....another long day at work doing end of month reports. Again, I am sorry.

Matty honest mistake so only fair you get the waiver position back

Do the right thing men

[JAKEPEAVY21]

F-me! F-me!

Last night it looks like I queued to drop Ingram instead of Inman during my waiver process. Came home late after working long hours and the fact that someone backed into my 2 month old car at work. So yes, I was a little distracted and rushed trying to get my picks in (for all 10 of my leagues). I know this sucks for everyone as someone will now get an unfair advantage in the league. I'm sorry. It sucks when real life gets in the way of fantasy. So please accept my apologies.

The sad thing is, I can't even put a waiver claim in on him since I was the one who dropped him. F-me!

Gotta go....another long day at work doing end of month reports. Again, I am sorry.

sounds like a rough day yesterday

hang in there and hopefully noone picks up Ingram and let's you get him back

[mpaschal34]

To be honest....I don’t expect to get him back. It’s my mistake and I own it. However if the team he goes to runs away with the league I will feel bad to the other members of the league.

Yeah, life kind of sucks right now. Several issues going on....so sweating a 1000 point league is the least of my worries. Hopefully I can everything aligned and get back on track.

[USCPHILLYGUY]

To be honest....I don’t expect to get him back. It’s my mistake and I own it. However if the team he goes to runs away with the league I will feel bad to the other members of the league.

Yeah, life kind of sucks right now. Several issues going on....so sweating a 1000 point league is the least of my worries. Hopefully I can everything aligned and get back on track.

Absolutely horrible that someone would pick him up after a mistake. Personally Matty id just make the trade for him. Hopefully someone has some common sense and does the right thing.

[CarolinaDaze]

Wow, that's a huge mistake, but I'm 100% sure that's just what it is: A Mistake. Nobody in this world would drop Ingram for a Oakland Def, add in the fact that he did have 2 players with similar names ( Mark Ingram & Dontrelle Inman). I'm only 1 vote, but I have No Problem with him reversing that one.

I really hope things slow down and everything else works out for you.

[Sam Losco]

hope all is well matt

hopefully everyone sees this thread in time to hold off ingram

[Inspirited]

I was wondering why anyone would do such a thing.

[khicks26]

Just canceled my claim on Ingram, hope it works out for you.

[USCPHILLYGUY]

[mpaschal34]

thanks for all the kind words/wishes. it has been a hectic week. can't really say much about what's going on my end for probably a week or two.

bunch of class guys on passing on ingram. not sure everyone will, but for those who pass, i appreciate it.

wish i could stay up and watch the end of this game as it's just now getting good. but i've been up since 4 am and am dead tired.

have a good one fellas.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

I hope everything sorts itself out buddy hang in there.

[mpaschal34]

After 45 hrs of work the last three days, I finally got a great night of sleep. Feel like a new person right now.

I’m ready for a great football weekend and a few adult beverages.