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  • stevenash
    Moderator
    • 01-17-11
    • 65470

    #1786
    Cubs had to make that deal.
    Jake is washed up, Lester is getting old.
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    • Cross
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 04-15-11
      • 5777

      #1787
      Jake is not washed up, they just need starting pitching help.
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      • EmpireMaker
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 06-18-09
        • 15578

        #1788
        There’s “increasing buzz” that the Rangers will listen to offers on top starters Yu Darvish and Cole Hamels if they don’t open the second half of the season with strong play, tweets ESPN’s Jerry Crasnick. It’s been previously reported that the Rangers will hold onto Darvish even if they fall out of the race, so that’d represent something of a change of mindset for GM Jon Daniels & Co. Darvish is set to hit the open market at season’s end, so if the Rangers are out of the race and don’t trade him, they run the risk of losing him to free agency (though he’d obviously receive and reject a qualifying offer, affording Texas some draft compensation). Hamels, meanwhile, hasn’t been listed as a potential trade target to date. He’s earning $23.5MM this year and next, and he’s owed at least $6MM as the buyout on a $20MM club option for the 2019 campaign. That contract and a bizarrely low strikeout rate (4.9 K/9) could complicate Hamels’ market, though he’s shown recent improvement with 12 strikeouts in his past 14 1/3 innings of work.
        More trade chatter from around the league…
        • The Marlins have told other clubs that they’re ready to sell off assets, a rival executive tells Bleacher Report’s Scott Miller. According to Miller, the Marlins have spoken to more than 10 teams about right-hander David Phelps, and there are two or three clubs that are showing “serious” interest in closer AJ Ramos. “They’re working on it and talking to clubs,” the exec tells Miller. “But the conversations always end with one caveat, that they don’t know that the owner won’t bail at the last minute.” Miller adds that Giancarlo Stanton isn’t likely to move until the Marlins accept that they won’t get someone to take his salary and give prospects back. The industry feeling is that it’d have to be almost a straight salary dump. (Stanton can also veto any deal via his no-trade clause.) Miller’s column features a look at all 30 teams and their possible deadline course as well.
        • Sonny Gray, Justin Verlander and Gerrit Cole are available in trades, writes Jon Morosi of MLB.com, but the Athletics, Tigers and Pirates have each set a lofty asking price. Perhaps more interestingly, Morosi adds that the Braves have said right-hander Julio Teheran isn’t available, though he’s reportedly been drawing interest and others (including David O’Brien of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution and Jon Heyman of FanRag Sports) have said that Atlanta would at least consider offers. In addition to that overview of the market for pitchers, Morosi runs down a position-by-position preview of the market for bats.
        • Heyman reports that there’s little to no genuine interest in Justin Verlander at this time due to his huge contract and underwhelming numbers. Furthermore, he notes that due to Verlander’s status as a legend in Detroit, they can’t accept an underwhelming return and effectively signal to Tigers fans that his trade was a salary dump. There’s also very little interest in Ian Kinsler, according to Heyman, as the he’s struggled in 2017 and few teams are on the hunt for second base help. He adds that Alex Avila, J.D. Martinez and Justin Wilson are all drawing strong interest, however, so GM Al Avila should make some deals in the next 18 days.
        • In his weekly AL Notes column, Heyman reports that with few top starters left on the market, the Astros may instead pursue high-end bullpen help in an effort to shorten the game and load up the relief corps for the postseason. Unsurprisingly, their list of targets would include Zach Britton, if he’s available. (Most clubs in the league would perk up at the notion of acquiring a healthy Britton.)
        • Heyman also notes that Braves left-hander Jaime Garcia is one rental pitcher that interests the Royals. On the subject of Kansas City, he also notes that while the team does have interest in Marlins second baseman Dee Gordon, K.C. would want Miami to pay down some of the roughly $41MM remaining on Gordon’s contract, which the Fish aren’t willing to do. The same is true of the Angels and Blue Jays, he adds, both of whom like the player but not his current salary.
        • Meanwhile, in his NL Notes column, Heyman writes that the Reds are believed to be willing to listen to offers on closer Raisel Iglesias but would only move him for a package that would “blow them away.” The 27-year-old Iglesias has emerged as one of baseball’s best relievers and is controllable through the 2020 season. He’s affordable at the moment ($3.5MM in 2017), but his contract allows him to opt into arbitration once eligible, so his salary is going to balloon quite a bit between now and 2020. Heyman also notes that the Reds would be interested in a two- or possibly three-year deal with Zack Cozart but recognize that he can earn more than they’re willing to pay when he gets to free agency.
        • The Yankees, Nationals, Dodgers, Cubs, Brewers, Royals, Angels and Mariners could all be in the mix for lefty Brad Hand, Heyman reports. Regarding the Dodgers, Heyman and Robert Murray report that San Diego asked Los Angeles for top prospect Alex Verdugo in return, though there’s “no likelihood” of L.A. meeting that price. The Padres are also getting calls on cheap starters Trevor Cahill, Clayton Richard and Jhoulys Chacin, each of whom inked a one-year deal worth $1.75MM this past offseason.
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        • Chi_archie
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 07-22-08
          • 63165

          #1789
          Originally posted by Cross
          Jake is not washed up, they just need starting pitching help.
          he might be washed up
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          • JAKEPEAVY21
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 03-11-11
            • 29268

            #1790
            Originally posted by Chi_archie
            he might be washed up
            I guess he stopped doing pilates
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            • El Nino
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 05-03-12
              • 18426

              #1791
              Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
              I guess he stopped doing pilates
              Nah, just got off the vitamin T
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              • yisman
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 09-01-08
                • 75682

                #1792
                Before this season, Boras and Arrieta were demanding a lengthy contract similar in years and dollars to the one Scherzer signed.

                He's been mediocre this year, like he was post All Star break last year.

                Oh, and he'll be 32 before next season starts.
                [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                [/quote]

                [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                • BigSpoon
                  SBR MVP
                  • 11-04-10
                  • 4113

                  #1793
                  Red Sox designate Pablo Sandoval for assignment. Finally cutting their losses Boston.
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                  • yisman
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 09-01-08
                    • 75682

                    #1794
                    Bryan HochVerified account @BryanHoch 1h1 hour agoMore



                    Michael Pineda has a partial tear of his UCL. He is seeking a second opinion but the recommendation is to have Tommy John surgery.

                    [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                    [/quote]

                    [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                    • koz-man
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 11-21-08
                      • 7102

                      #1795
                      Originally posted by BigSpoon
                      Red Sox designate Pablo Sandoval for assignment. Finally cutting their losses Boston.
                      NO say it ain't so Pablo........lol
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                      • stevenash
                        Moderator
                        • 01-17-11
                        • 65470

                        #1796
                        Originally posted by BigSpoon
                        Red Sox designate Pablo Sandoval for assignment. Finally cutting their losses Boston.
                        With the exception of the Babe Ruth fiasco many moons ago, one of the biggest clusterfuck signings from an organization that hasn't made too many clusterfuck signings in recent past.
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                        • stevenash
                          Moderator
                          • 01-17-11
                          • 65470

                          #1797
                          Originally posted by koz-man
                          NO say it ain't so Pablo........lol
                          Yankees need 3B help.

                          lol
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                          • mr. leisure
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 01-29-08
                            • 17507

                            #1798
                            Source confirms: #Cubs pursuing Gray even after getting Quintana. First reported: @jonmorosi.
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                            • EmpireMaker
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 06-18-09
                              • 15578

                              #1799
                              The Braves aren’t done looking for a controllable starter after missing on Jose Quintana, per Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports (links to Twitter). Atlanta pushed hard for the southpaw, per the report, with the team dangling Ozzie Albies as a headliner — though Passan’s source makes clear that talks never reached an advanced stage. It’s interesting to hear that Albies was offered up, but that was surely a prerequisite to get in the door on Quintana. Whether the intriguing young middle infielder could also be on the block in trade concepts involving other pitchers isn’t clear, but it seems that the Braves are still looking to be aggressive in adding arms for 2018 and beyond.
                              Here’s more from the NL East:
                              • Mets GM Sandy Alderson acknowledged that his organization will remain in a selling position unless things go “exceedingly well” before the deadline, as Marc Carig of Newsday writes. As the team sits eight games under .500, reaching a realistic position of contention would likely require a prolonged winning streak combined with stumbles from one or more front-running teams. Alderson reiterated that the club will not be looking to do more than cash in some expiring veterans, saying that a trade involving a core veteran would be “exceedingly unlikely.” Alderson also addressed some of his broader roster-building philosophies, including the relative value of defense in player evaluation, which you can read about at the above link.
                              • It seems that righty Edinson Volquez may not be so quick to return to the Marlins rotation as had been hoped. As Clark Spencer of the Miami Herald reports on Twitter, MRI results on the veteran’s balky left knee showed patellar tendinitis. Skipper Don Mattingly suggested that it doesn’t look to be a significant long-term problem, but Volquez also won’t return from the DL on Sunday. There hasn’t been much suggestion that he’s likely to factor as a trade piece, though the injury further clouds that possibility. Given his hefty salary for 2018 ($13MM), Volquez could also certainly be moved in August.
                              • One Marlins player who very clearly is in demand is right-handed reliever David Phelps, as Spencer also reports. He’s “drawing far more interest” than is closer A.J. Ramos, per the report, with about ten teams inquiring on the former and only two or three asking about the latter. It sounds as if both have a good chance of changing hands, ultimately, but it’s not all that surprising to hear that the steady Phelps is in greater demand. Indeed, he could even be seen as a possible rotation candidate for 2018 by some organizations that would be interested in adding him to their pen down the stretch.
                              • Braves righty Arodys Vizcaino could well factor in trade talks as well. He’s throwing off a mound today and seemingly won’t be far off from a return, per David O’Brien of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution (via Twitter). It had been a bit unclear just when he’d return, but it seems as if the talented — if somewhat enigmatic — reliever ought to have plenty of time to display his form for possible suitors. Veteran right-hander Jason Motte, though, may be headed in the other direction. MLB.com’s Mark Bowman tweets that Motte is heading to the DL with a back strain. He may have held some interest to contenders, though his peripherals lagged his results in Atlanta (and the ERA had begun to creep northward anyway).
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                              • El Nino
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 05-03-12
                                • 18426

                                #1800
                                Originally posted by BigSpoon
                                Red Sox designate Pablo Sandoval for assignment. Finally cutting their losses Boston.
                                Fat Panda put out to pasture.
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                                • Cross
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 04-15-11
                                  • 5777

                                  #1801
                                  Please tell me the cubs get gray also.
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                                  • Chi_archie
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 07-22-08
                                    • 63165

                                    #1802
                                    Originally posted by El Nino
                                    Fat Panda put out to pasture.
                                    will he be 375 lbs+ within 2 years?
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                                    • koz-man
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 11-21-08
                                      • 7102

                                      #1803
                                      Max Scherzer and Chris Sale are making their first starts after starting this year's All-Star game. Since 2011, All-Star game starters are 7–3 with a 1.81 ERA in their first start after the break
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                                      • stevenash
                                        Moderator
                                        • 01-17-11
                                        • 65470

                                        #1804
                                        deGrom now has joined my very short list of must see starting pitchers.
                                        The only other pitchers I go out of my to watch are, Kershaw, Max, Sale, now deGrom.
                                        I am going out of my way to check out Mad-Bum's return, and I'll watch Kluber too.

                                        deGrom's start last night was as good as it gets.
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                                        • EmpireMaker
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 06-18-09
                                          • 15578

                                          #1805
                                          Nationals starter Joe Ross will have Tommy John surgery on Wednesday in Texas, Jorge Castillo of the Washington Post tweets. The Nats pulled Ross from his most recent start, then placed him on the DL with what the team first described as triceps discomfort and then as an elbow sprain.
                                          Ross will, obviously, miss the rest of the season. The loss leaves the Nationals with a lack of good rotation depth — they have an enviable front four in Max Scherzer, Stephen Strasburg, Gio Gonzalez and Tanner Roark, but there’s a considerable dropoff after that. Potential short-term options include A.J. Cole, Jacob Turner, Austin Voth and Edwin Jackson, none of whom have done much this season to inspire confidence. Prospect Erick Fedde has fared well this year, but he only recently reached the Triple-A level.
                                          The Nationals could, then, enter the trade market for starting pitching. As Jeff Todd pointed out yesterday, the Nats don’t necessarily need an extra starter for the playoffs, and they have a comfortable 9.5-game lead in the NL East. But the addition of another starter would likely give their bullpen a degree of comfort while also insuring themselves against the possibility of another injury to a starting pitcher.
                                          The 24-year-old Ross had a 5.01 ERA in 73 2/3 innings this season, largely because of his 16 home runs allowed in that span. He posted 8.3 K/9, 2.4 BB/9 and a 37.5 GB% that had fallen off sharply from the 49.8% rate he posted as a rookie in 2015.
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                                          • EmpireMaker
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 06-18-09
                                            • 15578

                                            #1806
                                            Originally posted by stevenash
                                            deGrom now has joined my very short list of must see starting pitchers.
                                            The only other pitchers I go out of my to watch are, Kershaw, Max, Sale, now deGrom.
                                            I am going out of my way to check out Mad-Bum's return, and I'll watch Kluber too.

                                            deGrom's start last night was as good as it gets.
                                            He is sharp again, and he does fit with all of those guys.
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                                            • Cross
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 04-15-11
                                              • 5777

                                              #1807
                                              Who was calling Arrieta washed up??? Pretty filthy tonight.
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                                              • koz-man
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 11-21-08
                                                • 7102

                                                #1808
                                                Originally posted by stevenash
                                                deGrom now has joined my very short list of must see starting pitchers.
                                                The only other pitchers I go out of my to watch are, Kershaw, Max, Sale, now deGrom.
                                                I am going out of my way to check out Mad-Bum's return, and I'll watch Kluber too.

                                                deGrom's start last night was as good as it gets.
                                                His last 10 games....

                                                Jacob deGrom

                                                DATE OPPONENT RESULT IP H R ER HR BB SO GB FB TBF Pit Dec. Rel. ERA
                                                07/14 vs COL W 14-2 8.0 4 2 1 0 1 11 7 9 28 104 W(10-3) -- 3.48
                                                07/07 @ STL W 6-5 7.0 8 4 4 4 0 5 11 11 27 99 W(9-3) -- 3.65
                                                06/30 vs PHI W 2-1 7.0 3 1 1 0 1 12 5 7 25 111 W(8-3) -- 3.55
                                                06/24 @ SF W 5-2 8.0 4 1 1 1 1 7 12 9 29 101 W(7-3) -- 3.71
                                                06/18 vs WSH W 5-1 8.0 3 1 0 0 2 6 11 11 30 105 W(6-3) -- 3.94
                                                06/12 vs CHC W 6-1 9.0 5 1 1 1 4 6 16 7 33 116 W(5-3) -- 4.33
                                                06/06 @ TEX L 8-10 4.0 10 8 8 2 1 2 8 11 22 69 L(4-3) -- 4.75
                                                05/31 vs MIL L 1-7 4.0 8 7 7 2 5 6 7 7 25 105 L(4-2) -- 3.97
                                                05/26 @ PIT W 8-1 8.1 6 1 1 1 1 10 9 12 32 118 W(4-1) -- 3.23
                                                05/19 vs LAA W 3-0 7.0 4 0 0 0 3 9 7 8 28 106 W(3-1) -- 3.56

                                                Since his 2 hicups on 5/31 & 6/6.. His last 6 games are Solid!!!!
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                                                • Chi_archie
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 07-22-08
                                                  • 63165

                                                  #1809
                                                  solid indeed!
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                                                  • Chi_archie
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 07-22-08
                                                    • 63165

                                                    #1810
                                                    Originally posted by koz-man
                                                    Max Scherzer and Chris Sale are making their first starts after starting this year's All-Star game. Since 2011, All-Star game starters are 7–3 with a 1.81 ERA in their first start after the break

                                                    very interesting stat, i'd like to see further back though
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                                                    • BigSpoon
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 11-04-10
                                                      • 4113

                                                      #1811
                                                      Originally posted by Cross
                                                      Who was calling Arrieta washed up??? Pretty filthy tonight.
                                                      He's past his best, velocity is down and his production has been replacement level this season.
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                                                      • stevenash
                                                        Moderator
                                                        • 01-17-11
                                                        • 65470

                                                        #1812
                                                        Originally posted by Cross
                                                        Who was calling Arrieta washed up??? Pretty filthy tonight.
                                                        Me, and I have in slotted as my #3 starter in the Nationals (NFBC)
                                                        I've seen all but 2 of his starts this season, he's past prime.

                                                        But, kudos for yesterdays start, damn near brilliant.
                                                        Cubs playing with a sense of urgency out of the all star break, they have too.
                                                        I think the Reds may have a push in them too.
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                                                        • yisman
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 09-01-08
                                                          • 75682

                                                          #1813
                                                          Nationals bullpen has been a dumpster fire all season, they were up 10-0 in the 8th last night. Final score 10-7.
                                                          [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                          [/quote]

                                                          [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                                          • stevenash
                                                            Moderator
                                                            • 01-17-11
                                                            • 65470

                                                            #1814
                                                            Tony Pena once caught a 19 inning game and the following day caught both ends of a double header.

                                                            Baseball has no more Iron Men.
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                                                            • stevenash
                                                              Moderator
                                                              • 01-17-11
                                                              • 65470

                                                              #1815
                                                              Royal have bases loaded, two outs, bottom of the ninth, game tied at three and three, Lo-Cain who is like 1 for his last 1000 lifts a fly ball to medium-deep right field, sky is 100 percent sunshine, 100 percent blue in Kansas City, Choo fighting the sun, fighting the sum, fighting the sun, never really gets comfortable, drops the ball.
                                                              Walk off (call it what you want, error I guess) winner.

                                                              Those are the types of games my beloved Royals used to win in 2915, and need to win more of in 2017.

                                                              Part of me wants to feel bad for Choo, because anybody who has ever played any type of organized baseball knows how difficult that is, but the other part of me says if you play outfield for a living in Major League Baseball, the show of all shows, then you have to make that catch, especially in that situation.
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                                                              • Cross
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 04-15-11
                                                                • 5777

                                                                #1816
                                                                The reds? Now I know you are trolling me, haha.
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                                                                • EmpireMaker
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 06-18-09
                                                                  • 15578

                                                                  #1817
                                                                  The Red Sox are “moving closer” to a deal with the White Sox that would send third baseman Todd Frazier to Boston, USA Today’s Bob Nightengale reports (Twitter link). Both the Red Sox and archrival Yankees, who are 2.5 games behind AL East-leading Boston, sent scouts to Chicago on Sunday to observe Frazier and teammate David Robertson, according to FanRag’s Jon Heyman. However, it seems the teams have different motives. While the Red Sox are more interested in landing Frazier than Robertson, it’s the other way around for the Yankees, per Heyman.
                                                                  [Related: Red Sox and Yankees news and rumors on Facebook]
                                                                  If the White Sox move Frazier prior to the July 31 non-waiver trade deadline, the soon-to-be free agent’s unlikely to bring back a big return, with Nightengale suggesting he’d net the White Sox a “fringe prospect.” Moreover, Chicago would probably have to eat some of the remaining $5MM-plus left on Frazier’s contract, adds Nightengale (on Twitter). The 31-year-old would offer an acquiring team a competent everyday player, though, as he’s in the midst of his sixth straight respectable full season. Overall, the slugger has hit .210/.330/.483 with 16 home runs in 330 plate appearances. Those numbers are clearly superior to the production the Red Sox have gotten from their slew of third basemen, who have batted a woeful .234/.292/.327 with seven homers in 494 PAs.
                                                                  While Frazier to Boston may be “almost inevitable,” as Ken Rosenthal of MLB Network reported Saturday, there are other third basemen on the Red Sox’s radar, ESPN.com’s Jerry Crasnick tweets, with a source describing their search as “wide open.” One other possible candidate could be A’s second baseman Jed Lowrie, whom the BoSox have been scouting, Crasnick relays (Twitter link). Heyman lists the Padres’ Yangervis Solarte and the Marlins’ Martin Prado (previously reported) as other possibilities.
                                                                  Lowrie began his career in Boston, which selected him in the first round of the 2005 draft and dealt him to Houston in 2011 for reliever Mark Melancon. Now 33, Lowrie hasn’t seen significant action at third base since 2015, when he was still with the Astros, but his bat would bat be an upgrade over what the Red Sox’s hot corner choices have offered this year. The switch-hitter has slashed .273/.340/.448 with nine homers in 365 trips to the plate with the A’s, who are rebuilding and have no real reason to keep the $6.5MM man around through the season. With a $6MM club option (or a $1MM buyout) for 2018, Lowrie could be more than a rest-of-season stopgap for Boston, though the club might only need a Band-Aid at third with highly touted prospect Rafael Devers creeping closer to the majors.
                                                                  Solarte, 30, carries even more team control than Lowrie. He’s due a guaranteed $6.5MM through 2018 ($2.5MM this season, $4MM next) and has two affordable club options after that ($5.5MM in 2019, $8MM in 2020). Also a switch-hitter, Solarte has slashed .268/.349/.425 with 10 long balls in 289 PAs this season. However, a strained oblique has kept him out of action since June 20.
                                                                  While Lowrie to Boston would be a homecoming of sorts, the same would apply to Robertson going to New York. The Yankees drafted Robertson in 2006, in Round 17, and he developed into a shutdown reliever with the club a few years later. Robertson was so effective as both a setup man and closer with the Yankees that Chicago handed him a four-year, $46MM contract as a free agent in 2014.
                                                                  Even though the Yankees let Robertson depart, they “always have” been bullish on the right-hander, a source told Heyman. His $12MM salary this year and $13MM guarantee in 2018 aside, any bullpen-needy team would love to have Robertson, who’s amid the best of his three seasons in Chicago and has posted a 2.78 ERA with 12.8 K/9 and 3.06 BB/9 over 32 1/3 innings. Robertson is the closer for the White Sox, but he’d return to his old setup job with the Yankees and form what would figure to be an elite game-ending trio with Dellin Betances and Aroldis Chapman. Robertson would also fill a seventh- or eighth-inning role with the Red Sox, who have an all-world closer in Craig Kimbrel.
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                                                                  • stevenash
                                                                    Moderator
                                                                    • 01-17-11
                                                                    • 65470

                                                                    #1818
                                                                    Originally posted by Cross
                                                                    The reds? Now I know you are trolling me, haha.
                                                                    Too funny.
                                                                    Actually if I were a Cubs fan I am worried about the Brews
                                                                    If they get Chase Anderson back, and Sogar who has been raking when healthy, that team is complete
                                                                    I don't have to give you the hitters, you know them, Aguilar, Shaw, Thames, Braun, Santana, even the kid catcher.
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                                                                    • JAKEPEAVY21
                                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                      • 03-11-11
                                                                      • 29268

                                                                      #1819
                                                                      these Cubs fans are so annoying..

                                                                      I hope that the Brewers win the division and the Cubs miss the playoffs so I can listen to all the excuses.
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                                                                      • Chi_archie
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 07-22-08
                                                                        • 63165

                                                                        #1820
                                                                        Originally posted by stevenash
                                                                        Tony Pena once caught a 19 inning game and the following day caught both ends of a double header.

                                                                        Baseball has no more Iron Men.
                                                                        I cried when the Pirates traded Tony Pena when I was 9. It ended up being a great great trade though for the Pirates though
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