NFL Considering Abolishing the PAT!

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  • The Kraken
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    • 12-25-11
    • 28918

    #36
    Them and the nba need to spedd up the game. Less timeouts, quicker challenges, less breaks. Ridiculous how slow the pace of these games are.
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    • Kermit
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      • 09-27-10
      • 32555

      #37
      Originally posted by The Kraken
      Them and the nba need to spedd up the game. Less timeouts, quicker challenges, less breaks. Ridiculous how slow the pace of these games are.
      That is because the game is controlled by the sponsors.
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      • pavyracer
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 04-12-07
        • 82835

        #38
        Originally posted by The Kraken
        Them and the nba need to spedd up the game. Less timeouts, quicker challenges, less breaks. Ridiculous how slow the pace of these games are.
        Problem with greed is it never stops. Those TV rights they sell for billions to the networks have to be repaid with commercials. So every time a network outbids another one it means the games get longer.

        3 timeouts per coach per half. 2 minute warning. Unlimited injury timeouts, even when the injury is fake. Break every time there is a kick off, punt, TD, FG, interception, fumble, etc. That's why a 60 min game takes 3.5 hrs to complete.
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        • slacker00
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 10-06-05
          • 12262

          #39
          Yeah, fake injuries. I saw Bowman faking a knee injury in the SF-SEA game.
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          • thetrinity
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            • 01-25-11
            • 22430

            #40
            i like the idea of giving it to them make the game go quicker, only 5 missed all season
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            • shaunovery
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 11-15-07
              • 18143

              #41
              Get rid of the xtra point make teams go for 2
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              • LordVodka
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                • 08-17-09
                • 5206

                #42
                I'd rather have LeBron or Manning wear a Coca Cola jersey than having all these time outs?

                How long till we see the New England Pepsis or some BS? I don't know if that's worse than so many commercials.
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                • jjgold
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                  • 07-20-05
                  • 388179

                  #43
                  NFL product diminishing slightly every year

                  Stadiums not selling out like they use to
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                  • Kermit
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                    • 09-27-10
                    • 32555

                    #44
                    Originally posted by LordVodka
                    I'd rather have LeBron or Manning wear a Coca Cola jersey than having all these time outs?

                    How long till we see the New England Pepsis or some BS? I don't know if that's worse than so many commercials.
                    The New England Tampax
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                    • Todd2122
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                      • 12-23-08
                      • 403

                      #45
                      I remember watching the infamous Joey Harrington lead an 80 yard drive against the Vikings in 2004. The crowd went nuts! Missed PAT! Game over! He was never the same after that. Typical Lions.
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                      • Kermit
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                        • 09-27-10
                        • 32555

                        #46
                        This has to be one of the most famous missed extra points in history.

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                        • smitch124
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                          • 05-19-08
                          • 12566

                          #47
                          Next: they should eliminate punts!
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                          • Kermit
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                            • 09-27-10
                            • 32555

                            #48
                            Originally posted by smitch124
                            Next: they should eliminate punts!
                            Or Kick-offs. Just let the teams have their choice to start at the 20 yard line with 4 downs or the 30 yard line with 3 downs.
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                            • Andy117
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 02-07-10
                              • 9511

                              #49
                              Originally posted by pavyracer
                              If they are going to abolish PAT because they are automatic then they need to abolish 1st and Goal from the 1 yard line because the TD's are automatic.

                              Do you see how stupid this proposal is?
                              That is truly hideous analogy. 1st and Goal from the 1 is not automatic. PAT's are converted at over a 99% rate, that's automatic.
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                              • italianbandit
                                SBR MVP
                                • 05-17-11
                                • 2622

                                #50
                                I would vote to make the kick further back.
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                                • Bluehorseshoe
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 07-13-06
                                  • 14998

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by Foxx
                                  Or make room for more commercials.
                                  That's a great point and I'm sure that's the reason. Money, money, money.
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                                  • donkbetter
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 11-03-11
                                    • 314

                                    #52
                                    the goal posts narrows for pat and widens as the kick gets longer there are no great games when decided by a field goal - make it extremely hard to kick a 20 yard field goal
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                                    • Tommy Blingshyne
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 12-11-12
                                      • 821

                                      #53
                                      eventhough its not many, the small handful of PATs missed all season makes the PAT worth keeping IMO...it doesnt happen often but when it does, its a game changer...that feeling you get when your team is all but screwed and the kicker muffs the PAT or it gets blocked makes it all worth it...its like hitting a 1 outter on the river...one time!...the idea that they could miss it is all that matters to me...gives you a glimmer of hope each and everytime...taking away the PAT and just making a TD an automatic 7 points kills that whole feeling...not worth the exchange to me...keep it as it is...
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                                      • Tommy Blingshyne
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 12-11-12
                                        • 821

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by thetrinity
                                        i like the idea of giving it to them make the game go quicker, only 5 missed all season
                                        doubt the game would move much quicker...just more room for advertisements and commercials if anything
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                                        • Tommy Blingshyne
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 12-11-12
                                          • 821

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by Kermit
                                          This has to be one of the most famous missed extra points in history.

                                          and its these exact moments, however few they are, why the need to keep the PAT IMO...it adds another thrilling component to the game...majority of the time they make it, but the feeling you get the time they dont when your team needs it the most is well worth it...
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                                          • EmpireMaker
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                                            • 06-18-09
                                            • 15580

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by Deuce
                                            Why fukk with an aspect that isn't broken?
                                            why did they fukk with kickoffs? to control the outcomes more right?
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                                            • Ghenghis Kahn
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                                              • 01-02-12
                                              • 19734

                                              #57
                                              i say get rid of the helmets. i guarantee guys will not launch themselves to tackle and probably result in less concussions...
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                                              • SteelRain
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                                                • 03-13-12
                                                • 2806

                                                #58
                                                NFL for the most part is unwatchable because of the commercials. I won't be watching the superbowl because of this.
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                                                • LT Profits
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                                                  • 10-27-06
                                                  • 90963

                                                  #59
                                                  I like the idea of keeping the PAT but kicking it from the 20, making it a 30-yarder. Somebody get Goodell on the phone so that we could bribe him with SBR Betpoints!
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                                                  • Smoke
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                                                    • 10-09-09
                                                    • 48111

                                                    #60
                                                    Fukk all that. Bring back the old school punter helmets

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                                                    • TheMoneyShot
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                                                      • 02-14-07
                                                      • 28672

                                                      #61
                                                      Just like when the NHL brought in the Shootout. I hate it. Leagues always doing something when everything was perfectly fine. Dumb.
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                                                      • gui_m_p
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                                                        • 09-18-13
                                                        • 123

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                        If they are going to abolish PAT because they are automatic then they need to abolish 1st and Goal from the 1 yard line because the TD's are automatic.

                                                        Do you see how stupid this proposal is?
                                                        You're wrong. Chance to score on 1st and goal from the 1 yard for sure is not higher than 90%. If I'm right it is aroud 80-85%. Very different from the 99.1%.
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                                                        • Parlayplayer
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                                                          • 11-01-13
                                                          • 114

                                                          #63
                                                          Dancing with the stars/America's got talent style! Touchdown celibration dance or acrobatics get Ryan secrest out for a quick interview and America votes pt or no pt, the phone lines are open!
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                                                          • flocko76
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                                                            • 10-01-10
                                                            • 1447

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by thetrinity
                                                            i like the idea of giving it to them make the game go quicker, only 5 missed all season
                                                            Does this include that game in philly when detroit and the eagles only tried 1 or 2 and didn't make any because of the snow?
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                                                            • oddtodd
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 09-04-12
                                                              • 231

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by gui_m_p
                                                              You're wrong. Chance to score on 1st and goal from the 1 yard for sure is not higher than 90%. If I'm right it is aroud 80-85%. Very different from the 99.1%.
                                                              Not only that ... but you would have to multiply the difference by 5 times (6 times?) to make up for the difference in point differential. Anyways I think this is a no brainer. Who the penetrate watches or cares about extra points? its a waste of time that if the game was being created now would never be included. You have to move forward... this is nothing like the NHLs ridiculous shootouts which leads to 3 pts being awarded in some games and 2 in others.
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