2013 ESPN Fantasy NASCAR Challenge

[CarolinaDaze]

I'm having a Daju Vu moment here, " Why the hell did i get rid of Jimmie last week", after having him for every race so far this year?

[5mike5]

yes mike go ahead and send. remind me if I don't send the full 200 when you win

ok thank you, sent to #735

[jackpot269]

I'm having a Daju Vu moment here, " Why the hell did i get rid of Jimmie last week", after having him for every race so far this year?

How many weeks can you use a driver? Do they just get blocked like drivers you cant afford? ( over salery cap)

[yisman]

How many weeks can you use a driver? Do they just get blocked like drivers you cant afford? ( over salery cap)

unlimited


yahoo and foxsports have limits on how many times, but not espn (because it has a cap)

[mikejamm]

Unreal stuff go'in on again with these bullshit inspections! Matt Kenseth penalized 50 points, fined 200 grand and his crew chief suspended for 6 races over one damn connecting rod that was 2.7 grams underweight? How in the fuk does that give Matt any racing advantage? Wasn't even his teams' fault. Part came from a 3rd party vendor. Nascar is getting stupid with this shit! Shit like this can kill a guy's chances of making the Chase!

[5mike5]

Mike if u dont understand why nascar penalizes teams for such things, then theres no since in trying to explain it to u

[onlooker]

Unreal stuff go'in on again with these bullshit inspections! Matt Kenseth penalized 50 points, fined 200 grand and his crew chief suspended for 6 races over one damn connecting rod that was 2.7 grams underweight? How in the fuk does that give Matt any racing advantage? Wasn't even his teams' fault. Part came from a 3rd party vendor. Nascar is getting stupid with this shit! Shit like this can kill a guy's chances of making the Chase!

Looks like the only JGR driver that has a shot at a championship this year is Kyle. Do all resources and focus go into the 18 team?

[5mike5]

kennseth can easily still win the championship....its not that big a deal in the long run....i think he would make the chase if it started today even after penalties in 15th with 1 win...he will be back in top 10 by june

i think hes fine

[onlooker]

kennseth can easily still win the championship....its not that big a deal in the long run....i think he would make the chase if it started today even after penalties in 15th with 1 win...he will be back in top 10 by june

i think hes fine

I haven't looked at any standings, but figured it hurt him real bad by all the talk.

[5mike5]

I haven't looked at any standings, but figured it hurt him real bad by all the talk.

i think vegas said he was in 15th now, but even erasing kansas win he still has 1 so just off top of my head thinking even if chase started today hes in with wild card...but i havent looked at it either

dont get me wrong it still is a huge penalty, but i do think he can recover since its still early

remains to be seen what not having his crew chief will bring too though

[Vegas39]

kennseth can easily still win the championship....its not that big a deal in the long run....i think he would make the chase if it started today even after penalties in 15th with 1 win...he will be back in top 10 by june

i think hes fine

yes he will be just needs to avoid DNF's

[yisman]

he's tied for 14th, I think it's a toss-up as to whether kenseth makes chase. mike you want to do a points bet?

[shaunovery]

kenseth still should make the chase espically the way he's been running of late

[shaunovery]

in for Richmond

[jackpot269]

In for Richmond!! got to start saving up points to get in the next segment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[Optional]

I'm having a Daju Vu moment here, " Why the hell did i get rid of Jimmie last week", after having him for every race so far this year?

I did that last week too. I collected .6 mill for dropping him last week, and can have him back for just .2 more than he was.

But I don't want him this week. And have enough salary cap to have just about anyone I want now.

Looks like the only JGR driver that has a shot at a championship this year is Kyle. Do all resources and focus go into the 18 team?

I don't think the penalty kills Kenseth, but agree Kyle is the man to follow for futures in that team for sure now.

A couple of unlucky DNFs and Kenseth is in real trouble and like you say, Kyle is all the coach has to focus on then.

[mikemca]

Think Kenseth is fine.After he won they were saying how that basically guaranteed him a spot in the chase with 2 wins because of wild card.Have to guess the odds are pretty good he wins another before the end of the season so that would put him right back to at least having a wild card spot locked up.
I like the way Nascar drops the hammer though when someone breaks the rules.Sends a very clear message .

[yisman]

yes if kenseth wins another he'll make the chase as a wild card

if not it's a toss-up though (think making top 10 is a flip)

Making the chase as a wild card isn't that hard if you have a good car because most of the guys outside the top 10 very rarely win. Vast majority of the wins are obviously contained in the top 10 of the standings. In fact, every single win so far has been by a current member of the top 8 (counting all of Kenseth's earned points, ignoring penalty).

So a top car should be able to get a win or two.

[Vegas39]

So if a coin flip to make top10 give me +100 yis

[yisman]

I am bookie I have to charge vig

otherwise I go out of business fast

[Vegas39]

I am bookie I have to charge vig

otherwise I go out of business fast

-105 seems fair in that case

[mikejamm]

Just seems pretty harsh to me. We're tak'in 2.7 fuk'in grams here! There should be some damn allowance for a small variance like that. Like I said, it gave Matt no advantage and it's not like all 8 connecting rods were off, it was just the one.

[onlooker]

I like the way Nascar drops the hammer though when someone breaks the rules.Sends a very clear message .

They wrongfully dropped the hammer this time. It was TRD's fault, and even took blame.

TRD president Lee White said the illegal part was a "total screw-up on our part." He said the piece supplied by a European vendor slipped through TRD quality control and that JGR or Ratcliff had no way of knowing it was on the car.


White said the magnetic steel part, which connects the piston and crankshaft, had a required minimum of 525 grams.
"One part came in 2.7 grams underweight, and somehow made it through our processes and ended up unfortunately in an engine that was selected to be weighed," White told ESPN.com. "That's totally on me."

It was too harsh in my opinion.

[Vegas39]

They wrongfully dropped the hammer this time. It was TRD's fault, and even took blame.



It was too harsh in my opinion.

.i think penalty lessened on appeal

[onlooker]

.i think penalty lessened on appeal

I hope NASCAR does the right thing.

[shaunovery]

50 again this week yis

[hawk 5]

25 for me yis.

[Optional]

100 for me Yis.

Of course I missed last week, only the 2nd time I've beaten you all year. And first time was only for 50 instead of 100 on top of that!


Was it just 1 connecting rod that was light or all 8?

When a car that was so easily dominant on restarts and staying in the lead all race has a light engine part I have trouble believing it was just an accident.

Surely the engine builders balance everything. A connecting rod seems like a pretty significant part to not have been weighed carefully.

[shaunovery]

100 for me Yis.

Of course I missed last week, only the 2nd time I've beaten you all year. And first time was only for 50 instead of 100 on top of that!


Was it just 1 connecting rod that was light or all 8?

When a car that was so easily dominant on restarts and staying in the lead all race has a light engine part I have trouble believing it was just an accident.

Surely the engine builders balance everything. A connecting rod seems like a pretty significant part to not have been weighed carefully.

I tried to make the same point earlier in the week but got shot down poster saying that every engine part couldn't be checked

[5mike5]

the reason it was harsh was because it had to do with the engine'..nascar isnt going to let teams push that at all, and reallly they shouldnt...it was harsh, but they had to send a strong message not to mess with engines with teams looking for advantages with the new car

even though it did not give him any racing advantage...

every1 agreed about that during media this week

[Vegas39]

I tried to make the same point earlier in the week but got shot down poster saying that every engine part couldn't be checked

I did not intend to shoot you down I was
giving an opinion. Sorry you fel that way

[shaunovery]

I did shoot you down I wa giving an opinion. Sad you fel that way

no problem we all have our own views that's why our nascar thread is in a different league than the other sub forums always slagging each other off

everyone views always welcomed

[onlooker]

I don't think the penalty kills Kenseth, but agree Kyle is the man to follow for futures in that team for sure now.

A couple of unlucky DNFs and Kenseth is in real trouble and like you say, Kyle is all the coach has to focus on then.

Jeff Hammond had a good idea if the penalties stick and Hamlin can't go. Stick Kenseth in the 11 car, so they have two cars contending for a championship and collecting owner points for the full race schedule at a high level.

[mikejamm]

Looks like Hamlin wont be back for Richmond after all. Didn't get the clearance from the docs. No sense in taking any chances on something like a back injury. That kinda shit could mess you up for life.

[yisman]

a little late on that mike