Hypothetical: MLB #1 overall pick?

[LT Profits]

trout is a top 5 pick but no way should he be going first overall. Cabrera first overall no doubt. As stated above Braun also deserves to be drafted before Trout. I don't think Trout repeats the power #s he had last year and stolen bases are an overrated category and theirs other options in later rounds who will get a solid # of stolen bases.

You won't get any five-tool guys that contribute in EVERY category in the later rounds.

[LT Profits]

Cabrera is triple crown. not even close

That means nothing. This is based on league rankings and not on raw differential in HRs, RBI, etc., and the difference in Trouts SB ranking over Cabrera will be bigger than the difference in the triple crown categories.

[stevenash]

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Right

Typical week from Miggy

HR 9
RBI 9
Avg 7
R 6
SB 0

Typical week from Trout

HR 6
RBI 6
Avg 8
R 9
SB 9

Who had the better week?


Again, this is fantasy baseball scoring, and let's not forget Bautista is back 100 percent, that'll take away some power rankings away from Miggy.

[CMNoney]

I would go with Cabrera.

He's never hurt and consistent as can be.

[stevenash]

I would go with Cabrera.

He's never hurt and consistent as can be.

I'm a Miggy fan myself, he'll average 32 to 34 points a week (about 8.5 out of 10) in the combined BA, R, RBI, and HR categories. But ZERO in the SB category for a total of 32 to 34 (out of 50) a week.

Trout will average about 28 to 31 (about 7 out of 10) in the combined BA, R, RBI, and HR categories.
However he'll average 8 out 10 a week in SB's. (Figure Gardner and a couple of others will steal bases as well and could out steal Trout in any given week)
So even if Trout gets 29 points in the other categories besides SB's, figure 8 more for the SB's for a 36-37 point week.

One more thing, speed, unlike hitting, never slumps.
Never.

[koz-man]

You guys have me rethinking about Trout.
I really hope I don't have to make this decision come draft day.

[stevenash]

1	2	Mike Trout	OF,CF,LF	LAA	$50.22
2	3	Miguel Cabrera	3B	DET	$49.86
3	1	Ryan Braun	OF,LF	MIL	$48.60
4	6	Albert Pujols	1B	LAA	$39.84
5	7	Robinson Cano	2B	NYY	$39.47
6	9	Joey Votto	1B	CIN	$36.48
7	4	Matt Kemp	OF,CF	LAD	$35.51
8	14	Prince Fielder	1B	DET	$35.31
9	16	Clayton Kershaw	SP	LAD	$35.19
10	10	Carlos Gonzalez	OF,LF	COL	$34.42
11	5	Andrew McCutchen	OF,CF	PIT	$33.81
12	20	Justin Verlander	SP	DET	$32.12
13	30	Stephen Strasburg	SP	WAS	$32.04
14	8	Jose Bautista	OF,RF	TOR	$31.75
15	19	Giancarlo Stanton	OF,RF	MIA	$31.75
16	40	Cliff Lee	SP	PHI	$31.51
17	11	Buster Posey	Catcher,1B	SF	$29.93
18	21	Josh Hamilton	OF,CF,LF	LAA	$27.19
19	36	Billy Butler	1B	KAN	$27.15
20	12	Justin Upton	OF,RF	ATL	$27.11
21	52	Matt Holliday	OF,LF	STL	$26.78
22	31	Craig Kimbrel	RP	ATL	$26.62
23	50	Cole Hamels	SP	PHI	$26.58
24	19	Troy Tulowitzki	SS	COL	$26.38
25	15	Adrian Beltre	3B	TEX	$26.22
26	23	Adam Jones	OF,CF	BAL	$26.01
27	29	Jay Bruce	OF,RF	CIN	$25.61
28	28	Adrian Gonzalez	OF,RF,1B	LAD	$24.92
29	41	David Price	SP	TB	$24.87
30	39	Dustin Pedroia	2B	BOS	$24.76
31	46	Felix Hernandez	SP	SEA	$24.49
32	59	Matt Cain	SP	SF	$24.41
33	27	Evan Longoria	3B	TB	$23.71
34	13	Curtis Granderson	OF,CF	NYY	$23.59
35	33	Hanley Ramirez	SS,3B	LAD	$23.31
36	37	Jose Reyes	SS	TOR	$23.19
37	24	Edwin Encarnacion	1B	TOR	$23.11
38	63	Ben Zobrist	SS,2B,OF,RF	TB	$22.98
39	26	David Wright	3B	NYM	$22.54
40	38	Ian Kinsler	2B	TEX	$22.38
41	17	Bryce Harper	OF,CF,RF	WAS	$22.14
42	74	Kris Medlen	SP	ATL	$21.76
43	22	Paul Goldschmidt	1B	ARI	$21.57
44	78	Gio Gonzalez	SP	WAS	$21.45
45	83	Zack Greinke	SP	LAD	$21.23
46	55	Jered Weaver	SP	LAA	$21.00
47	67	Madison Bumgarner	SP	SF	$20.92
48	53	Anthony Rizzo	1B	CHC	$20.76
49	88	Roy Halladay	SP	PHI	$20.35
50	32	Jason Heyward	OF,RF	ATL	$20.32

[stevenash]

2013 Trout projections:

Composite	CF	LAA	601	111	27	80	46	0.298	0.379	0.507	72	137	$50
RotoChamp	CF	LAA	595	115	29	77	50	0.306	0.390	0.528	75	140	$48
Steamer-Razzball	CF	LAA	609	112	26	85	41	0.286	0.360	0.494	70	134	$47
FanGraphs Fans	CF	LAA	617	134	27	87	51	0.308	0.386	0.524	73	145	$51
CAIRO	CF	LAA	582	104	25	77	46	0.300	0.383	0.498	69	134	$50

2013 Miggy projections:

Composite	3B	DET	579	107	35	115	3	0.318	0.403	0.573	80	94	$49
RotoChamp	3B	DET	585	110	38	117	3	0.313	0.396	0.578	78	93	$45
Steamer-Razzball	3B	DET	571	105	34	115	3	0.320	0.405	0.575	81	92	$47
FanGraphs Fans	3B	DET	598	117	37	125	5	0.326	0.402	0.585	77	98	$49
CAIRO	3B	DET	590	108	34	115	4	0.318	0.402	0.563	82	99	$55

[Shortstop]

2013 Trout projections:

Composite	CF	LAA	601	111	27	80	46	0.298	0.379	0.507	72	137	$50
RotoChamp	CF	LAA	595	115	29	77	50	0.306	0.390	0.528	75	140	$48
Steamer-Razzball	CF	LAA	609	112	26	85	41	0.286	0.360	0.494	70	134	$47
FanGraphs Fans	CF	LAA	617	134	27	87	51	0.308	0.386	0.524	73	145	$51
CAIRO	CF	LAA	582	104	25	77	46	0.300	0.383	0.498	69	134	$50

2013 Miggy projections:

Composite	3B	DET	579	107	35	115	3	0.318	0.403	0.573	80	94	$49
RotoChamp	3B	DET	585	110	38	117	3	0.313	0.396	0.578	78	93	$45
Steamer-Razzball	3B	DET	571	105	34	115	3	0.320	0.405	0.575	81	92	$47
FanGraphs Fans	3B	DET	598	117	37	125	5	0.326	0.402	0.585	77	98	$49
CAIRO	3B	DET	590	108	34	115	4	0.318	0.402	0.563	82	99	$55

This is excellent stuff, Nasher. Thanks for sharing this!

[stevenash]

This is excellent stuff, Nasher. Thanks for sharing this!

Not a problem.
This is my passion, (border line obsession) I used to do this stuff when I was growing up with pencil and graph paper.
Love baseball, so does my wife (or I never would have married her)

I think I'm going to run a season long thread, I'm thinking it through now, it'll probably be all inclusive, fantasy, wagering, stats, stuff like that. Like an all in one thread.

Last season I made a separate thread for each game I played, may make just one on going thread.
Stay tuned

[Andy117]

Not a problem.
This is my passion, (border line obsession) I used to do this stuff when I was growing up with pencil and graph paper.
Love baseball, so does my wife (or I never would have married her)

I think I'm going to run a season long thread, I'm thinking it through now, it'll probably be all inclusive, fantasy, wagering, stats, stuff like that. Like an all in one thread.

Last season I made a separate thread for each game I played, may make just one on going thread.
Stay tuned

One good thread would be a good thing to have.

[yisman]

I still think Trout deserved AL MVP for 2012. Too bad.

[koz-man]

I know Kershaw, Verlander, and Strasburg are great pitchers, But I can not draft them in the first round.
Or any other, I try to load up in middle/later rounds. And look for sleepers.
Also keeping an eye on waivers and pick up surprise pitchers.

[stevenash]

I know Kershaw, Verlander, and Strasburg are great pitchers, But I can not draft them in the first round.
Or any other, I try to load up in middle/later rounds. And look for sleepers.
Also keeping an eye on waivers and pick up surprise pitchers.

No pitcher should be drafted in the first round, simply because they don't play every day.

If a Bob Gibson, or Sandy Koufax elite type was available in the fourth round, I'd consider it, but no pitcher should be drafted before round four.

[Mitchell88]

Nash where do you play your fantasy? do you use multiple sites or one in general that you like the most?

[stevenash]

Nash where do you play your fantasy? do you use multiple sites or one in general that you like the most?

Fan Duel, Draft Street, Draft Day, Daily Joust for daily cash games.

MLB.com for season long

ESPN.com for invitational leagues.

[LordVodka]

I'd take Cabrera but only because Trout is young and you can't predict what kinda year he might have whereas you know Cabrera has a proven track record.