Is IOWA a fraud this year????

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  • Patrick McIrish
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    • 09-15-05
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    #71
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    • hoopster42
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      • 02-12-08
      • 6099

      #72
      Originally posted by Patrick McIrish
      Not a strong recruiter either eh?
      he gets some 4 and 5 star HS guys, but not as many as traditional powers ohio state, michigan, and penn state, and then theres notre dame who so many kids wana play at. considering that his school is located in the middle of flatland, ferentz gets some pretty good players, especially on defense
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      • Fishhead
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        • 08-11-05
        • 40184

        #73
        Esspecially for it's population size, the state of Iowa itself produces many fine football players.......many who not only go on to star in the NFL, but become ALL-PRO.
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        • thebestthereis
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 03-01-09
          • 11459

          #74
          it's all about matchups, when and where you play your opponent, turnovers, final score, and which team went out the night before and did keg stands with matt leinart - that is all.
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          • Fishhead
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            • 08-11-05
            • 40184

            #75
            Originally posted by thebestthereis
            it's all about matchups, when and where you play your opponent, turnovers, final score, and which team went out the night before and did keg stands with matt leinart - that is all.

            Students drink alcohol at Wisconsin and Iowa???
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            • Straight Cash
              SBR MVP
              • 11-20-09
              • 2202

              #76
              Iowa is a good team, almost came back from quite a ways to beat Arizona.
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              • thebestthereis
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                • 03-01-09
                • 11459

                #77
                Originally posted by Fishhead
                Students drink alcohol at Wisconsin and Iowa???
                in between cow-tipping and drinking
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                • Fishhead
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                  • 08-11-05
                  • 40184

                  #78
                  As an Iowa fan, it's really great to be part of the absolute best fanbase in the USA.
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                  • The Prick
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                    • 08-31-05
                    • 4965

                    #79
                    pre-fuggin-posterous. look at ferentz's bowl record an tell me he aint a top-shelf coach. does more with less than anybody else in the game, look at the discipline an special teams play as a clue
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                    • Sunde91
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 11-26-09
                      • 8325

                      #80
                      Iowa = top 5 team with a top 2 coach

                      A lot of parity 1-15 with LSU, Mizzou, and Utah as real frauds.
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                      • JW Cash
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                        • 12-31-08
                        • 4453

                        #81
                        Hawkeyes could be the surprise of the Big 10......but Minny should beat them...
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                        • jgray
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                          • 09-06-09
                          • 3599

                          #82
                          Originally posted by JW Cash
                          Hawkeyes could be the surprise of the Big 10......but Minny should beat them...
                          Typo, right??? Are you referring to the Vikings? Because then I'd agree with you. Otherwise, .
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                          • Fishhead
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                            • 08-11-05
                            • 40184

                            #83
                            Originally posted by jgray
                            Typo, right??? Are you referring to the Vikings? Because then I'd agree with you. Otherwise, .


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                            • LT Profits
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                              • 10-27-06
                              • 90963

                              #84
                              I think Iowa wins BIG this week, but it still wouldn't really prove anything. They are catching Wiscy at home after Badgers just won their biggest game in like ever, which basically puts Iowa in a no-win situation:

                              1 - They are supposed to win fairly handily this week given their huge emotional edge, so if they do (and I think they will), they were supposed to do it so it won't prove anything.

                              2 - If Iowa does not cover this week, they are a fraud because everything is in their favor to cover.

                              Option 1 is still better for them though, they will have other chances to validate their ranking.
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                              • hoopster42
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                                • 02-12-08
                                • 6099

                                #85
                                Originally posted by JW Cash
                                Hawkeyes could be the surprise of the Big 10......but Minny should beat them...
                                no surprise whatsoever to those of us that follow the college game like its holy and read about who they had coming back in preseason
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                                • Fishhead
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                                  • 08-11-05
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                                  #86
                                  How much hype would this Iowa team be recieving if they had won at Arizona???


                                  I think Iowa has their hands full and then some this coming weekend with Wisky.


                                  Wisky has a terriffic offensive line and Iowa is still banged up at the linebacker position.


                                  Taking the six pts in this affair is the right side in my opinion........even though I'm hoping I'm wrong.

                                  Another Hawkeye concern is how is Adam Robinson going to hold up to the pounding he takes as basically the teams only running back.
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                                  • jgray
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                                    • 09-06-09
                                    • 3599

                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by LT Profits
                                    I think Iowa wins BIG this week, but it still wouldn't really prove anything. They are catching Wiscy at home after Badgers just won their biggest game in like ever, which basically puts Iowa in a no-win situation: 1 - They are supposed to win fairly handily this week given their huge emotional edge, so if they do (and I think they will), they were supposed to do it so it won't prove anything. 2 - If Iowa does not cover this week, they are a fraud because everything is in their favor to cover. Option 1 is still better for them though, they will have other chances to validate their ranking.
                                    That's an understatement. Especially if option 2 results in a loss.
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                                    • LT Profits
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                                      • 10-27-06
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                                      #88
                                      Originally posted by Fishhead
                                      How much hype would this Iowa team be recieving if they had won at Arizona???


                                      I think Iowa has their hands full and then some this coming weekend with Wisky.


                                      Wisky has a terriffic offensive line and Iowa is still banged up at the linebacker position.


                                      Taking the six pts in this affair is the right side in my opinion........even though I'm hoping I'm wrong.

                                      Another Hawkeye concern is how is Adam Robinson going to hold up to the pounding he takes as basically the teams only running back.
                                      You don't think letdown factor is HUGE here? I do.
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                                      • jgray
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                                        • 09-06-09
                                        • 3599

                                        #89
                                        Originally posted by Fishhead
                                        How much hype would this Iowa team be recieving if they had won at Arizona??? I think Iowa has their hands full and then some this coming weekend with Wisky. Wisky has a terriffic offensive line and Iowa is still banged up at the linebacker position. Taking the six pts in this affair is the right side in my opinion........even though I'm hoping I'm wrong. Another Hawkeye concern is how is Adam Robinson going to hold up to the pounding he takes as basically the teams only running back.
                                        I actually think Coker and Rodgers have looked competent in limited action this season. It's not like Robinson is a Heisman candidate. (j/k ). Seriously, IMO, the drop off in the rushing game would be only marginal if Robinson went down. He's an above average back, nothing more. The pass protection is where the real risk is. I've not seen these guys try to recognize and pick up a blitz yet. That could go either way.
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                                        • jcubs55
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                                          • 04-18-10
                                          • 1023

                                          #90
                                          I love how all you guys base all these team rankings off of this year, which I'm sure you will all say "what else is there to go by???" Well, the fact is that this season is a 6 or 7 game sample size, which means almost nothing. Fishhead, I'm surprised you of all people are sticking to the "Well, Iowa lost to AZ" theory... you of all people should know Iowa wins that game around 70/100 times... IMO Iowa has a GREAT shot to win the Big 10 this year, as Ohio State is definitely overrated, and Mich State isn't as good as they have played thus far. Wisky is good but not great. Iowa can easily win the Big 10, and yes, if that first half against AZ is any different, this thread wouldn't exist right now.
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                                          • hoopster42
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                                            • 02-12-08
                                            • 6099

                                            #91
                                            Originally posted by jcubs55
                                            I love how all you guys base all these team rankings off of this year, which I'm sure you will all say "what else is there to go by???" Well, the fact is that this season is a 6 or 7 game sample size, which means almost nothing. Fishhead, I'm surprised you of all people are sticking to the "Well, Iowa lost to AZ" theory... you of all people should know Iowa wins that game around 70/100 times... IMO Iowa has a GREAT shot to win the Big 10 this year, as Ohio State is definitely overrated, and Mich State isn't as good as they have played thus far. Wisky is good but not great. Iowa can easily win the Big 10, and yes, if that first half against AZ is any different, this thread wouldn't exist right now.
                                            they were PK for a while then a dog at kickoff, no fukkin way they win 70/100 times at arizona. that night, arizona and their numerous returning starters on offense and underrated defense were going to click no matter what. they were -2 in turnovers and still beat iowa. i know arizona had a short field for the first or second touchdown, but there was a clear speed advantage for arizona. the iowa wr's could not get open versus the zona db's. sorry man, but college sports are my thing and this statement you made is completely wrong. if either team would win more than 50 times that night, it would be arizona, perhaps 55 out of 100 times. no way iowa, with those slow wr's, goes into arizona at night on primetime national tv and wins that game 70 out of 100 times. not even fishy would agree with that if he truly knows college football
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                                            • Fishhead
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                                              • 08-11-05
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                                              #92
                                              Originally posted by jcubs55
                                              I love how all you guys base all these team rankings off of this year, which I'm sure you will all say "what else is there to go by???" Well, the fact is that this season is a 6 or 7 game sample size, which means almost nothing. Fishhead, I'm surprised you of all people are sticking to the "Well, Iowa lost to AZ" theory... you of all people should know Iowa wins that game around 70/100 times... IMO Iowa has a GREAT shot to win the Big 10 this year, as Ohio State is definitely overrated, and Mich State isn't as good as they have played thus far. Wisky is good but not great. Iowa can easily win the Big 10, and yes, if that first half against AZ is any different, this thread wouldn't exist right now.

                                              Of course Iowa can win the Big Ten title........so can at LEAST three other teams.

                                              Again, I ask the question of you and hundreds of media people............why does a half of football not count?

                                              Why does McNutt dropping a pass that gets intercepted, ......terrible kickoff coverage that results in a TD,...... and terrible blocking on a blocked punt that results in a TD NOT COUNT ON HOW GOOD A TEAM IS???? Why when the game is tied, does Iowa allow Arizona to drive the length of the field if their defense is supposed to be top three in the country?

                                              I'm saying this as a diehard Hawkeye fan...........although some want to call me a homer

                                              Again, teams should not get MULLIGANS, especially of this proportion.

                                              And if Iowa were to play ARIZONA in that spot 100 times, THEY WOULD NOT WIN 70 times.........hell, the game was a PK.

                                              Iowa losses two linebackers and two running backs, LOSES to Arizona, and some people still want to rank them in their TOP SIX(Herby for one has them at number 6).

                                              Again, if Iowa wins at Arizona, would Iowa be recieving first place votes in the AP and USA polls at this time?

                                              Keep this in mind also, IOWA has played an easier schedule than BSU year to date..........as they have wins over EASTERN ILLINIOS, BALL STATE, and IOWA STATE...........with their best win against what is probably not a top 30 team when its all said and done, Michigan.
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                                              • Godsmack
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                                                • 10-04-08
                                                • 1226

                                                #93
                                                Originally posted by jgray
                                                Typo, right??? Are you referring to the Vikings? Because then I'd agree with you. Otherwise, .
                                                the vikings would lose to them
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                                                • knoxhawk03
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                                                  • 10-20-10
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                                                  #94
                                                  Fishhead you are a not a homer... A true Hawkeye Homer would see what type of team they have this year.... Obviously your just a jack A$$.... Let me make some stuff clear for you FishHead...
                                                  Iowa Games to Date

                                                  Eastern Ill---- Yeah warm up game,,,, Who cares all teams have one... Last year was Ark St... Iowa about lost. Were you saying they sucked last year when they were 10-2??????? I doubt it....

                                                  ISU---- Do you know what usually happens during this game???? Its ISU super bowl and its another game for Iowa. Every year the game is close and a great game to watch. Not often do we see blow outs. Last year it was a blow out because of the turnovers. This year??? Did you watch the game???? Total domination.... 35-7???? ATS was -14 and people were all over ISU... Hell I thought about picking ISU but I didn't... The only touchdown they got was because our scrubs were getting action... I understand ISU isn't any good but they always come to play against us as they are a top 10 team.

                                                  Arizona--Not a good game at all for us and everyone knows the outcome... A LOSS.... We had to play the entire game with a different game plan that we came into the game with.. We couldn't run the ball because we needed to score and score often. We battled back from a crazy crowd, down 21 points, bad officiating (both sides), and still almost won that game... How many away teams come back from a early 21 point deficit and go to a gameplan they are not use to using and still almost win a game??? Not very many and only the good teams could do it.

                                                  Ball State- Might not be the most quality team in america but they aren't that bad. They beat up on a decent Central Michigan team that traveled to VT and almost upset them. So to say Ball State is a horrible team is going a little far. But we dominated this game from the get go... 45-0... What else do you want me to say about this game... Dominated from opening kick off to the end. We could have put up 70 but thats not the team we are. Ohh yeah if you watched this game you would see that Ball St barely had a first down and had more 4 and outs than rushing yards probably.

                                                  Penn Stat----- Penn St plays Alabama on the road and losses 24-3... Penn St plays Iowa on the road and losses 24-3.... ???????????????? We could have ran the score up on Penn St just like Alabama could have but we didn't.. Instead we played the second half conservative... Penn St isn't the usual Penn St but they still got as many athletes on that team as most schools. If we wanted to move the ball and put more points up in the second half KOK could have easily of called for the plays to do it but decided not to....

                                                  Michigan---- 28-7 was the score before D-Rob goes down with an Injury---- 7 Points in the 3rd quarter---- Tell me what school this year has held the Michigan offense to 7 points in the middle of the 3rd quarter????. ZERO!!!!!!!! We had to change our game play to an completly different type of quarterback.... Were we ready for it??? No!!! Had we practiced all week for D-Rob??? Yes.... DID we do are job against D-Rob??? YES!!! We got a 21 point lead and our D played prevent to just get out of the Big House with a win... Was I happy about the final score??? No but we had total control of the game and let Michigan back into it because we weren't prepared for T Forcier to play like he did... Should we have been??? Yes and thats something the Defense will work on and remember....

                                                  So after pointing out all of these facts... I would say we haven't play the quality of teams that some of our competition has played but thats usually the case through the first 6 games of the year... As for what we have done in those six games besides one is total Domination... Iowa deserves all the respect they have gotten and you can expect to see them ranked again in the Top 10 at the end of the year....

                                                  In regards to the idiot that says Ferentz isn't a good coach...
                                                  You are a Florida fan and a SEC addict I'm sure...
                                                  Check out Coach's Success versus the SEC...

                                                  Florida 2003---- 37-17 WIN and DOMINATION
                                                  LSU 2004---- 30-25 WIN ,,, Dominated the entire game
                                                  Florida 2005--- 31-24 LOSS,,, REFS screwed us at the end when they recovered an on-side kick... Were down entire game
                                                  South Carolina 2008----31-10 WIN,,, Dominated the entire game

                                                  3-1 against SEC---- I'll Keep our COACH
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                                                  • Dutch
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                                                    • 09-21-10
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                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by Fishhead
                                                    How much hype would this Iowa team be recieving if they had won at Arizona???


                                                    I think Iowa has their hands full and then some this coming weekend with Wisky.


                                                    Wisky has a terriffic offensive line and Iowa is still banged up at the linebacker position.


                                                    Taking the six pts in this affair is the right side in my opinion........even though I'm hoping I'm wrong.

                                                    Another Hawkeye concern is how is Adam Robinson going to hold up to the pounding he takes as basically the teams only running back.
                                                    I agree. I'm laying off this game. Hard to make money off of these Big Ten battles. I'll be at the game, and of course I want Iowa to dominate, but Wisc. could win a close one. This game is a coin toss imho. Which makes it an excellent game to watch. But a bad game to put money on.
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                                                    • Fishhead
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                                                      • 08-11-05
                                                      • 40184

                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by Dutch
                                                      I agree. I'm laying off this game. Hard to make money off of these Big Ten battles. I'll be at the game, and of course I want Iowa to dominate, but Wisc. could win a close one. This game is a coin toss imho. Which makes it an excellent game to watch. But a bad game to put money on.

                                                      Agree
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                                                      • Patrick McIrish
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 09-15-05
                                                        • 2864

                                                        #97
                                                        Ferentz blows another one for Hawkeye Nation!!!! Wow, can you say overrated? Go Wisky, great win by the Badger coaching staff.
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                                                        • pavyracer
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 04-12-07
                                                          • 82809

                                                          #98
                                                          Iowa and Texas are the biggest frauds in Top 25. Lets hope they stay out of it for the rest of the year for the sake of college football.
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                                                          • Fishhead
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 08-11-05
                                                            • 40184

                                                            #99
                                                            Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                            Iowa and Texas are the biggest frauds in Top 25. Lets hope they stay out of it for the rest of the year for the sake of college football.

                                                            How will Iowa STAY OUT, when they will still be in the TOP 25??????
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                                                            • jjgold
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                                                              • 07-20-05
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                                                              #100
                                                              Iowa easliy could of won game, it was actually a fluke Wisky won.
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