Is IOWA a fraud this year????

[Dutch]

I'm laying off this one, but i don't see how they could be called a fraud. No one had them as #1 pre-season. They're right where I thought they'd be, fighting for the Big Ten title.

I didn't expect both Mich St. and Wisc. to be in the fight tho'. There are going to be some killer battles these next few weeks.

[Sportsnut1968]

my wisky will win outright

Would you like to wager a few points??? straight up no spread...I'll take Iowa you can take Wisconsin

[Fishhead]

To date, IOWA has had an easier schedule than BOISE STATE.........


Wins over EASTERN ILLINOIS, BALL STATE, and IOWA STATE do nothing but harm in the computer version of the BCS................

[agharah1]

I'd take Iowa, easy. Michigan's offense doesn't exactly suck, and spread offenses are a bad matchup for traditional 4-3 defense teams. Wisconsin runs the most basic offense imaginable, and even a bad defense can slow down an offense that's easy to stop. Besides, nobody's talking about how bad Wisconsin's defense is. As a passer, Stanzi isn't great but he's still better than Jamarcus Pryor.

[rhino1153]

I agree with Dutch.

[Dirty Sanchez]

Iowa's defense is firstrate...and they're double tough at home

[Fishhead]

I'd take Iowa, easy. Michigan's offense doesn't exactly suck, and spread offenses are a bad matchup for traditional 4-3 defense teams. Wisconsin runs the most basic offense imaginable, and even a bad defense can slow down an offense that's easy to stop. Besides, nobody's talking about how bad Wisconsin's defense is. As a passer, Stanzi isn't great but he's still better than Jamarcus Pryor.

SPOT ON with the 4-3 defensive comment, and one of the reasons Iowa usually has had more success against Wisky than not............

Currently has the 2nd best passer rating in the country, with only the kid from Boise State having one better.............but again, Iowa has not played a defense all year that one would say is better than average.

[ouman101]

I just hope people keep thinking Iowa is a fraud so that way I can cash them Saturday. Iowa is one of the most underrated teams in the country. People forgot about them after the Arizona loss.

[Fishhead]

I just hope people keep thinking Iowa is a fraud so that way I can cash them Saturday. Iowa is one of the most underrated teams in the country. People forgot about them after the Arizona loss.

When a team is recognized has having the best DL in football and two WR's that can compliment any two recievers in the country in terms of skill level, coupled with an experienced winning QB,.......... they are obviously a very good team and tough for any opponent to contend with on any given Saturday.

[GoBlue2404]

Don't be surprised if I nail this score right on the nose..............


IOWA 24
WISKY 22

Yup, because 22 is such a common # for teams to land on.

[Fishhead]

Yup, because 22 is such a common # for teams to land on.

......it's a VERY HARD number for a team to score, tougher than most.

[MoneyHappy]

I'm a believer in this Iowa team. I really like their D and offense does it's job.

They beat Wisconsin this week by 10+. They are frauds.

[Jonah]

MSU aint playing OSU this year, but they have room for Western Michigan, Northern Colorado and Florida Atlantic. And OSU managed to squeeze in Ohio, Eastern Michigan and Marshall...Keep doing what you are doing BIG 10!

When you are playing the likes of Minnesota, Purdue and Indiana, not to mention a pretty crappy Penn State and Illinois then TWO CUPCAKES is more than enough.

[Patrick McIrish]

In my humble opinion one of the most overrated head coaches in football. Sorry Fisher.

[Herky]

In my humble opinion one of the most overrated head coaches in football. Sorry Fisher.

If you believe that, you don't know much about football. This guy takes 2 and 3 star and 0 star players and routinely beats teams loaded with 4s and 5s. Only a few other programs can boast the same number or more wins as Iowa over the past 3,5,and 10 seasons. Shows consistency. And he's one of longest tenured coaches in NCAA.

[Patrick McIrish]

Thanks for proving my point.....

[Fishhead]

If you believe that, you don't know much about football. This guy takes 2 and 3 star and 0 star players and routinely beats teams loaded with 4s and 5s. Only a few other programs can boast the same number or more wins as Iowa over the past 3,5,and 10 seasons. Shows consistency. And he's one of longest tenured coaches in NCAA.

...........and in terms of class, he has no peer in the head coaching ranks at the FBS level.

As an avid University of Iowa fan, I'm very proud to have Kirk Ferentz as the head coach of the Hawks.

As the saying goes in Iowa, "IN KIRK WE TRUST".


Now, having stated that, in terms of in-game coaching decisions, he may not be on par with many head coaches on the FBS level..............but taking everything into consideration that encompasses a head coach at the level he is at, I can count on one hand the coaches that I MIGHT want to have at the helm instead of Ferentz.

[Fishhead]

...........and in terms of class, he has no peer in the head coaching ranks at the FBS level.

As an avid University of Iowa fan, I'm very proud to have Kirk Ferentz as the head coach of the Hawks.

As the saying goes in Iowa, "IN KIRK WE TRUST".


Now, having stated that, in terms of in-game coaching decisions, he may not be on par with many head coaches on the FBS level..............but taking everything into consideration that encompasses a head coach at the level he is at, I can count on one hand the coaches that I MIGHT want to have at the helm instead of Ferentz.

By the way, many distingused football people(Bill Parcells and Bill Belichick to name just two) consider coach Ferentz to be the absolute best offensive line coach/teacher in all of football today.

As poster Herky mentioned, he has taken many 1-3 star recruits and not only coached/taught them how to be top top notch college players, but also provided a path for a great number of them to have success in the NFL.

[Patrick McIrish]

Fair enough Fish, I agree he is a class guy, not sure what happened to his son though. Is he still getting arrested every other weekend? My knock on the guy other than a string of questionable ingame decisions that many casual fans of the sport probably wouldn't catch is WHAT HAS HE DONE in all his time at Iowa? Forget national championships which here at the University of Florida we measure success by, this guy can't even outright win a Big 10 title!!!! If you can't win a Big 10 title you can't win anywhere. In fact his win percentage in this patsyville conference is somewhere around 55% or so. Nice guy, classy, probably walks old ladies across the street, when it comes to coaching though clearly one of the more overrated coaches in the college game at this time. 'Nuff said.

[TUDINH]

this good game iowa so good so far

[Patrick McIrish]

By the way, many distingused football people(Bill Parcells and Bill Belichick to name just two) consider coach Ferentz to be the absolute best offensive line coach/teacher in all of football today.

As poster Herky mentioned, he has taken many 1-3 star recruits and not only coached/taught them how to be top top notch college players, but also provided a path for a great number of them to have success in the NFL.

Kind of what I am thinking as well Fisher. I agree with Beli-Cheat and Tuna, he'd make a great position coach for someone but clearly outmatched as a head coach in the college ranks. Looks like all the sharp minds agree on this one.....

[Fishhead]

I would much rather IOWA not win a national championship if to do so they had to hire an unrespectuful and/or cheating head coach such as the likes of NICK SABIN, PETE CARROLL, LANE KIFFEN, JIM LEVITT, and like so many others in the profession.

To be named BIG TEN head coach of the year 3 times and take his team to 7 New Years Bowls, all with class and dignity, says a lot about the guy.

[hoopster42]

kirk does more with less than just about top 25 coach year in and year out, he doesnt get superstars but he molds a strong team almost every year

[No coincidences]

This thread is full of fail

Exactly.

[No coincidences]

In my humble opinion one of the most overrated head coaches in football. Sorry Fisher.

[Godsmack]

Would you like to wager a few points??? straight up no spread...I'll take Iowa you can take Wisconsin

don't take your frustrations out on such a petty thing after wisky pounded your avatar all to hell

[californiabadger]

The Badgers even the heartland trophy up 42-42-2 this weekend.

[Sportsnut1968]

don't take your frustrations out on such a petty thing after wisky pounded your avatar all to hell

Don't be afraid....You said Wisconsin wins out right...Why not put a few points on the line if your so sure???

[hoopster42]

I just hope people keep thinking Iowa is a fraud so that way I can cash them Saturday. Iowa is one of the most underrated teams in the country. People forgot about them after the Arizona loss.

the smart money knows that iowa is very good, and also that teams that just beat the number one team or another top team dont play very well the next week, so wisky is not a good bet, the smart money knows this, so dont expect to get anything better than iowa -5 on saturday

[Fishhead]

KIRK FERENTZ vs THE POINTSPREAD.............

UPDATE AGAINST THE SPREAD RECORDS HEADING INTO WISKY MATCHUP NEXT WEEK.........

2010--4-2
2009--9-4
2008--8-5
2007--6-6
2006--2-10
2005--7-4
2004--9-3
2003--10-3
2002--9-3
2001--7-4

Ferentz SPREAD RECORD against all foes 2001-2010...........71-44.....62%
Ferentz SPREAD RECORD vs BIG TEN foes 2001-10.......52-33 ......62%

[Patrick McIrish]

kirk does more with less than just about top 25 coach year in and year out, he doesnt get superstars but he molds a strong team almost every year

Not a strong recruiter either eh?

[Patrick McIrish]

I would much rather IOWA not win a national championship .......

You're rooting for the right team if you aren't interested in national championships, hell he can't outright win a Big 10 title, LOL. I could pick 10 guys off the forum and start as QB and contend in that conference. As you say at least he loses with class.

[No coincidences]

You're rooting for the right team if you aren't interested in national championships, hell he can't outright win a Big 10 title, LOL. I could pick 10 guys off the forum and start as QB and contend in that conference. As you say at least he loses with class.

You are a fool.

I don't even like Iowa, but you're going to force me to defend them pretty soon.

[Patrick McIrish]

You are a fool.

I don't even like Iowa, but you're going to force me to defend them pretty soon.

Insults are a weak's man imitation of strength. You're better than this, respond to the post and not the poster. For the record I didn't call Iowa a fraud, I simply stated IMO their head coach gets too much love and belongs on the overrated list. If you have another opinion state it and move on, no need for the hysterical Helen routine while us men are talking. Thanks.

[Fishhead]

Insults are a weak's man imitation of strength. You're better than this, respond to the post and not the poster. For the record I didn't call Iowa a fraud, I simply stated IMO their head coach gets too much love and belongs on the overrated list. If you have another opinion state it and move on, no need for the hysterical Helen routine while us men are talking. Thanks.