Is IOWA a fraud this year????

[Deuce]

I think, YES

Did you see the numbers a bad Michigan team put up on them?

Boys, biggest test will be the next 3 weeks for them. I say they go 1-2.

[Fishhead]

They are a tad OVERrated in the A.P. and COACHES POLLS currently for what they have accomplished thus far this season(they are 17th in the computor rankings).

If on a team's season resume lists a teams top two wins to date and they are MICHIGAN and PENN STATE, this is certainly not a great resume.........then throw a loss in there to a team that will probably not be ranked in the top 20 in a few weeks, and CURRENTLY this club is overrated in the two major POLLS.

We will find out how "AVERAGE" or "VERY GOOD" this team is after their two upcoming games against WISKY and MSU.

They are certainly a GREAT team on the defensive line and they also have two GREAT recievers in DJK and McNutt......the question with this team is their linebacking crew which is banged up currently, the unstable play of their cornerbacks, and a team that relys on ONE running back, although a highly talented one.

[RonPaul2008]

They are the 4th best team in the big ten

[Doc JS]

Deuce,
I guess it means what you mean by "fraud". If you mean in the conversation for MNC, then YES I think they're a fraud. If you mean, are they a pretty good team who may win 9+ games and goes to a pretty good bowl, then NO, I don't think they're a fraud.

I dont think Michigan is very good on defense...but offensively, I think they can move the ball and pretty much anybody. I mean Michigan got theirs against Mich. State. They just don't play any defene.

I mean, if you think the Hawks are a fruad, what do you think of Ohio State after that stinker they pulled in Madison this past weekend?

Doc

[pavyracer]

They haven't played anyone this year.

[Fishhead]

They are the 4th best team in the big ten

If I personlly had to rank the teams based on their play thus far this season, Iowa would at this point fit right into this 4th spot..........and this is what the major rankings are showing now also.

1. MSU
2. WISKY
3. OHIO STATE
4. IOWA

I think most people would say all four of these teams are really close and it would be hard at this particular time to really say which one is the best of the four or the worst of the four..........but thus far in the season, the above rankings is what I would go with, but this is not to say that I think MSU will win the conference or Iowa will finish 4th or worse.........


.......ANY of the above teams are fully capable of winning the BIG TEN title........and the only four in my estimation.

[dmtrader]

Iowa will make some noise in the Big Ten

They play Mich St, Wisc, and Ohio State all at home

and even if they lose one of those games, I still think a one conf. loss team will win the Big Ten

This could be a horse race down to the wire

[Deuce]

Iowa will beat MSU

Lose to Wisky and Ohio St

[Fishhead]

As most know, I bleed BLACK and GOLD..........but some of these media nitwits are highly overrating Iowa for what they have done on the field.

HERBIE currently as them at #6.......HUH?????

I constantly here HERBIE, BRENT, DAVIE, JAMES, etc, etc keep saying "IF" you throw Iowa's 1st half out at Arizona where they gave up 21 pts on a kickoff return, an INT, and blocked punt, they would be undefeated and in everyones top five.............

WELL, GUESS WHAT, THAT'S WHY THEy PLAY THE GAMES AND IOWA PLAYED A HORRIBLE 1ST HALF, A HALF THAT DOES NOT MAKE THEM WORTHY OF A TOP TEN RANKING............and constantly here this almost everytime some media head talks about Iowa.

I mean WTF, does every team in the country get a HALF a game MULLIGAN????

[HoulihansTX]

This thread is full of fail

[clarkd32]

wiscy was running all over iowa last year in the 1st quarter before clay got hurt. normally i would think wiscy coming off a big win would help iowa, but Bielema is a former iowa player - and has an iowa tigerhawk tattoo - and will have wiscy fired up. plus this is a revenge game for iowa beating wiscy last year.

+6 looks pretty good imo.

[Fishhead]

wiscy was running all over iowa last year in the 1st quarter before clay got hurt. normally i would think wiscy coming off a big win would help iowa, but Bielema is a former iowa player - and has an iowa tigerhawk tattoo - and will have wiscy fired up. plus this is a revenge game for iowa beating wiscy last year.

+6 looks pretty good imo.

I couldn't agree more.......

I'm really shocked at this line and where it's moving.

Made IOWA -3 and thought I was going to be spot on.........not often I'm this wrong with a pointspread involving the Hawkeyes.

[The Bet Master]

There pretty good. Maybe 3rd in the Big 10. I think they will beat Wisconsin. Don't be fooled on Wisconsin, they played the game of their life, while Ohio State played a lousy 1st half.

[Cougar Bait]

If Iowa is so awful why are they 6 point favs after giving up 28 points to Michigan and Wisconsin runs over the #1 team in the nation?

Something strange about that line

[Fishhead]

If Iowa is so awful why are they 6 point favs after giving up 28 points to Michigan and Wisconsin runs over the #1 team in the nation?

Something strange about that line

I still need to dig deeper than the surface on this one.......

But anyway, two factors favoring Iowa............

1. Wisky off biggest win in years, letdown???

2. Wisky has not exactly been a thorn in Iowa's side much of late

[pavyracer]

If Iowa is so awful why are they 6 point favs after giving up 28 points to Michigan and Wisconsin runs over the #1 team in the nation?

Something strange about that line

Books make mistakes. Do you remember what the line was on Alabama - South Carolina, Nebraska - Texas or UCLA - Texas.

[WorkHorse]

Nice point Cougar. I bet team defense first and consider all the other stuff later............

Iowa is 13th in total defense. The teams rated above them have a combined record of 66-11.

Hawkeyes get the three tough ones at home......I like this team and their chances.

[Fishhead]

Stanzi currently 2nd in the nation in passing rating........

He has two big time recievers in DJK and McNutt.........two NFLers in all probability.

DJK is the all-time leading reciever in IOWA history.....as he looks to lead the Hawks in recieving for an incredible 4 straight years. Truly one of the most underrated players in CFB today.

[jjgold]

Iowa might not lose another game this year

Best coached team in the Country

[jgray]

I still need to dig deeper than the surface on this one....... But anyway, two factors favoring Iowa............ 1. Wisky off biggest win in years, letdown??? 2. Wisky has not exactly been a thorn in Iowa's side much of late

3. Wisky struggled with San Jose St., Arizona St. and lost to Michigan St. Not what I'd characterize as an impressive record.

Don't underestimate the letdown factor here (I think this is Houlihan's point in his artful "fail" post above). That was a huge win for Wisconsin last Saturday. I've not seen a coaching staff, let alone the players, act like that after a regular season win. They were downright giddy. (Admittedly I'd be dancing around like little girl if I were them, but I'm not a Division 1 head coach). I just don't know how they bounce back this week.

One last point, the final score of the Michigan was deceiving. It wasn't that close. The Hawks shut down all aggressiveness in their defense trying hang on to big lead. In the end, it was enough.

If Wisconsin goes to into Iowa City and stays within a TD, I will be impressed and surprised. More importantly, I'll be down some cash because I'm already on the Hawks at -5 in this one.

[Fishhead]

3. Wisky struggled with San Jose St., Arizona St. and lost to Michigan St. Not what I'd characterize as an impressive record.

Don't underestimate the letdown factor here (I think this is Houlihan's point in his artful "fail" post above). That was a huge win for Wisconsin last Saturday. I've not seen a coaching staff, let alone the players, act like that after a regular season win. They were downright giddy. (Admittedly I'd be dancing around like little girl if I were them, but I'm not a Division 1 head coach). I just don't know how they bounce back this week.

One last point, the final score of the Michigan was deceiving. It wasn't that close. The Hawks shut down all aggressiveness in their defense trying hang on to big lead. In the end, it was enough.

If Wisconsin goes to into Iowa City and stays within a TD, I will be impressed and surprised. More importantly, I'll be down some cash because I'm already on the Hawks at -5 in this one.

EXCELENT point.......and very true.

[Michigan]

Michigan is not a bad team and their offense ranks as one of the best in the country.

[WorkHorse]

Good exchange men....what makes SBR fun.

Note on Fishman....he's a veteran who knows the ropes. May disagree at times but always interested in his positions.

You should too.

[hoopster42]

I think, YES

Did you see the numbers a bad Michigan team put up on them?

Boys, biggest test will be the next 3 weeks for them. I say they go 1-2.

michigan puts big numbers up on everybody, dude. i'm not an iowa fan, but i love them against wisconsin, mich st, and even ohio state. 2-1 at worst in that stretch.

[hoopster42]

Books make mistakes. Do you remember what the line was on Alabama - South Carolina, Nebraska - Texas or UCLA - Texas.

those lines were all correct. the line is to get even action, which it basically did on all 3 of those games. if anything, the bama-south caro line went from 6.5 to 7 and the tex-nebraska line went from -9.5 to 10, so the bettors were more clueless than anything. it's easy to say after the game is over that the line was wrong, but let's see how that works out before the game kicks off. part of the reason underdogs like socarolina and texas rise up in those games is because they know they are the underdog and it motivates them. i bet if bama was even vs socarolina and texas was even at nebraska, then bama and nebraska would have won. they were overconfident and the underdog was pissed.

[hockeyhy]

They're better than michigan state, that's for sure.

[IrishTim]

MSU is the real fraud. Using that fake FG to beat Notre Dame. What shit.

[hoopster42]

MSU is the real fraud. Using that fake FG to beat Notre Dame. What shit.

but mich state also dominated wisky who dominated ohio state

[Intuitive_Edge]

Wisky on the road is a travesty..

[Herky]

You all better be cheering for Iowa against Mich St because check out Sparty's schedule after that.

[Fishhead]

You all better be cheering for Iowa against Mich St because check out Sparty's schedule after that.

If MSU wins their next two games, they go undefeated in all liklihood..........

They may lose this weekend AT Northwestern.

[Sportsnut1968]

If I had to pick a team, I like Iowa in his spot....Wisky rolls over Ohio State on primetime for everyone in the country to see...The spread is set at -6.....Inviting action on Wisconsin..Seems kinda fishy to me...Last week Ohio St put 8 men in the box to stop Wisconsins run game and couldn't do it....


- Wisconsin is 8-1 SU in its last 9 games
- The total has gone OVER in 5 of Wisconsin’s last 6 games on the road
- Wisconsin is 4-2 SU in its last 6 games on the road
- The total has gone UNDER in 4 of Wisconsin’s last 6 games when playing Iowa
- Iowa is 5-0 SU in its last 5 games at home
- Iowa is 7-1 SU in its last 8 games
- Iowa is 6-2 SU in its last 8 games when playing Wisconsin
- The total has gone UNDER in 4 of Iowa’s last 6 games when playing Wisconsin


Iowa 23 Wisconsin 17

[Fishhead]

Don't be surprised if I nail this score right on the nose..............


IOWA 24
WISKY 22

[eatdust11]

Iowa's defensive line is much better than Ohio State's, and I think their defense will make life tough on their opponents the rest of the year... they went into a prevent late against Michigan and got burned.

[Godsmack]

my wisky will win outright