How Can Anyone Still Doubt Boise State at this point?

[LT Profits]

You are trying to make an argument for them yet when people say lines like this it does the exact opposite. If Bama beats Penn St this weekend are you going to say the same thing? No you aren't, well why not?

HUH?

I posted somewhere (maybe in THIS thread, too lazy too look,,,LOL) they the only way Boise does not go to the BCS Championship Game is if Alabama and Ohio State both go undefeated, If either of those two lose a game, which they most likely will, Boise is in (provided they win out).

[zacharyj53]

HUH?

I posted somewhere (maybe in THIS thread, too lazy too look,,,LOL) they the only way Boise does not go to the BCS Championship Game is if Alabama and Ohio State both go undefeated, If either of those two lose a game, which they most likely will, Boise is in (provided they win out).

I am talking about them running the tables. Boise's schedule is too easy to belong in the NC game.

[MJFtheGenius]

not buying Boise

So they beat a middle of the pack ACC Va Tech team...By the skin of their teeth
so what??

[LT Profits]

What if a team from another BCS conference goes undefeated? I think think the only way they could get into Championship game is if there is only one undefeated team. What I think will happen is Ohio State goes undefeated and a one loss SEC team jumps Boise into game.

Because or the rankings, which are Bama, OSU, BSU, If anyone else goes undefeated, they won't leap frog Boise as long as Boise goes undefeated.

[LT Profits]

I am talking about them running the tables. Boise's schedule is too easy to belong in the NC game.

That;s academic, Unlike past years where they had ground to make up, they BEGAN this year ranked third. Thus, they won't get passed if they win out.

Now I am NOT saying they are the second best team in the country, I am just saying the system is what it is.

[zacharyj53]

That;s academic, Unlike past years where they had ground to make up, they BEGAN this year ranked third. Thus, they won't get passed if they win out.

Now I am NOT saying they are the second best team in the country, I am just saying the system is what it is.

Ok, I thought you were implying they deserve to be in the NC game.

[LT Profits]

not buying Boise

So they beat a middle of the pack ACC Va Tech team...By the skin of their teeth
so what??

How many in a row have they won now? And during the streak, they have 4 wins vs. BCS schools and 2 vs. TCU.

Yes their conference sucks, but every time they step up in class, they keep winning. They can no longer be penalized for playing in the WAC, because they are beating all comers.

[NYsportsfreak]

Lt, People just dont get it. BSU beats EVERYONE they play, their coaches have great gameplans and they execute 99% of the time, yes their depth is a little shady. Stop bitching about the blue field, everyone complaining about that would probably catch an a$$ beating from my little sister. And for the argument about not playing in the SEC, if they did they would steal recruits from SEC schools and I'll take BSU's coaching staff over almost anyones.

BSU is the real deal!

[antifoil]

they have won 1 in a row

other seasons dont matter for this seasons national championship

[Serbone]

HUH?

I posted somewhere (maybe in THIS thread, too lazy too look,,,LOL) they the only way Boise does not go to the BCS Championship Game is if Alabama and Ohio State both go undefeated, If either of those two lose a game, which they most likely will, Boise is in (provided they win out).

I am already sick of hearing about Boise State.
Media darling, you could hear the announcers hoping that they beat VT so that there would be controversy all yr.
Last three calls against VT made me wonder. Clipping, late hit, and pass interference, all seal the win for Boise.
MY ANNUAL STATEMENT: Boise would lose 3 games if they were in the SEC. Wear and tear of tough competition week in and week out something they are not used to.
Will laugh my ass off if they go undefeated and play TCU again while Alabama and OSU (or whoever) play for BCS Championship.

[LT Profits]

Ok, I thought you were implying they deserve to be in the NC game.

Well I DO think they are top five at the very least. I would love to see them schedule more BCS non-conference games. The thing is, so would THEY!

The problem is no other BCS schools want to play them, which speaks volumes right there.

[jjgold]

All the experts know Boise is for real so no surprise last night.

[HoldEmHook!!]

Well I DO think they are top five at the very least. I would love to see them schedule more BCS non-conference games. The thing is, so would THEY!

The problem is no other BCS schools want to play them, which speaks volumes right there.

It does speak a lot....It shows how playing boise has no advantage for a top Bcs school. Boise plays there 1 hard game and lets say Ohio St. plays them do they put the game between Wisc and Iowa....while Boise puts this game in between utah st. and san jose st. Get real with Boise

[clonecat]

5Dimes as Boise States over/under for wins at 11 1/2 with over +110 and under -150

There schedule may be cake, but they still have to play the games. College football can be crazy.

[Metalhead]

Well I DO think they are top five at the very least. I would love to see them schedule more BCS non-conference games. The thing is, so would THEY!

The problem is no other BCS schools want to play them, which speaks volumes right there.

They don't want to play them because it right now it is only benficial to Boise. If Boise wins the game it helps them get in over a BCS team, if Boise loses, people say the BCS team should have won anyway. They need to schedule atleast 4 BCS opponents to make their strength of schedule appetizing.

I think Boise is a good team, I bet on them last night. I don't think they are the best team in the country, but a legitimate top 10. If they had the same schedule as Vanderbilt, what do you think their record would be?

[dontazeme1]

Yea i want to see Boise compete with any team in the SEC...they would get crushed by Bama thats for damnn sure

boises the real deal, shut down oregon last year when they made the rose bowl, time to wake up Boise state recruits just as good as any team on the west coast, and will be playing for a national championship this year

[Vesuvius]

Boise still needs a much tougher schedule.

[Patrick McIrish]

We all like the underdog story but Boise wins 3 games with an SEC schedule. That is being generous.

[hoop guru]

Boise was too chicken shit to play ORegon and rather play a weaker oregon st team. I hope oregon state beats boise st. When you play physical teams you really feel the wounds of being hit hard. Boise st is in the one weakest conferences and its totally non-competititve coference. Boise St has not had to deal with injuries while playing in their weak conference. Boise st gets pumped up for one game (VT) and now can relax until they play oregon st. Its not fair for oregon st to play at BOise. ORegon st has a much tougher schedule than boise st and this game should have been played at ORegon st. Boise st is getting whatever they want. Schedule that is so favorable. Even the game with VT was a neutral site. Can anyone name a team that BOise St played on the road that was a top 10 team. They got lucky in 2008 to beat oregon at oregon. THis is there top road victory against a quality opponent. All other victories against BCS teams in bowl games were at neutral site. SOme of those teams did not care for playing Boise st. BOise st should have become independant this year and played anyone. I am fresno st alumni and coach HIll said he would play anyone anywhere. I have a lot more respect for fresno st than I do for boise st. Fresno st is not scared of the big boys like boise st is.

[Grind House]

College football is full of shit. SEC never has to play in the Cold. Florida would be another garbage ass team if they had to go to Penn. State in December, or somewhere in 20 degree weather.

[pokernut9999]

Bama will not go undefeated , 6 of their conference games the opponent is coming off a bye week.

Tough to win all those games.

[stingray14]

College football is full of shit. SEC never has to play in the Cold. Florida would be another garbage ass team if they had to go to Penn. State in December, or somewhere in 20 degree weather.

The weather....You are a freaking genius.....Thats why SEC has won 6 out of 12 BCS championships. The freakin weather...Thats rich

[gafl]

Boise St. played great and deserve the credit. Still don't think they could be as successful in one of the top conferences. Even though there would be some cupcakes in the top conferences, the grind of facing deep rosters week after week would be difficult. Throw in a conference championship game, and they would not be worrying about the BCS championship game.

[hawaii808]

I have nothing bad to say about boise, however id like to see them play at a high level of competition every single week i think that would answer all questions.

[sportfan]

I like Boise st even though they beat our team San Jose st every f******* year , Boise st should be in Pac 10 competing with USC , Oregon , Oregon st.. its very possible they will be playing BCS Championship Game this year and win it .

[texhooper]

ok, the conference debate, as i said earlier, is why the masses will never annoint boise state. while i think that argument is more valid than it is invalid, still...let's look at texas' schedule. let's quit the sec talk and the arguing and let's see how they would stack up against a real deal big 12 schedule.

home against rice--easy win
home against wyoming--easy win (obviously)
at texas tech--too much d for tt to handle, win by a td+
home against ucla--win
neutral against oklahoma--well...done it before, but for argument's sake, let's say loss
at nebraska--bounce back from oklahoma loss, win a tight low scoring game
home against iowa state--easy win
home against baylor--easy win
at kansas state--easy win
home against oklahoma state--after the last three cupcakes, they can plan a defensive attack for the air raid, oklahoma state is a younger team than in years past and not ready for the smurf turf, win
home against florida atlantic--easy win
home against texas a&m--win (could be easy, but who knows with a&m, they might catch boise slipping but boise still wins)

big 12 championship--probably win that too, honestly.

obviously there are arguments, but i honestly believe they are a one loss team with texas' schedule. no real tough stretches other than oklahoma and nebraska back-to-back, and they would take at least one of those two. AT LEAST...and this is with the talent they have now, no "well they'd have big 12 talent". i'm honestly trying to be objective here. no one really gives shit to established programs for playing otherwise pretty easy schedules, mostly because "it's not their fault they have to play teams in their conference". there are two sides to the coin, that's all i'm saying.

[KingJIM]

Because or the rankings, which are Bama, OSU, BSU, If anyone else goes undefeated, they won't leap frog Boise as long as Boise goes undefeated.

I think Texas ranked 4th in coaches now would jump them if they run the table and win the Big 12 championship game against a highly ranked team. Same goes true for Nebraska or Oklahoma, Florida if they run the table and beat undefeated Bama in SEC championship game, and possibly Oregon if they dominate teams like last Sat. I think coaches and harris poll voters will see these teams playing quality opponents in November and December and Boise playing versus there cupcakes and keep the status quo. Only chance Boise has is if teams in top 15 now beat each other up at end of year and there is no other choice. We will see and I do think Boise is a top 10 team in the country and they could compete with anyone in a championship game but think their schedule will be their downfall. I also hope they go undefeated and win against a quality team(not TCU though) in a BCS game so maybe just maybe we will get a 4 or 8 team playoff.

[IEDodgerFan]

Boise=amazing...a little too early to talk BCS Championship game after week 1 win...but confident enough to see them do well...one of my fav. NCAAF teams since the start of last year.

[Pokerjoe]

Yea i want to see Boise compete with any team in the SEC...they would get crushed by Bama thats for damnn sure

Your statement reeks of redneck, but I'll give you the chance to back it up: show me the rational ratings system that has Boise getting crushed by anyone. We'll define "crushed" as, say, by 20 points or more.

So, let's not have mere posturing here, let's have some math: show us the ratings system, the good football predictive model, with an SEC team rated 20 points better than Boise.

[KingJIM]

Now can we start doubting Boise St?

[Dan]

Now can we start doubting Boise St?

Lol. VT goes down.

[Mr KLC]

This definitely hurts Boise when the BCS rankings start. Breaks my heart.

[Art Vandelay]

Boise needs to be rooting for V Tech to actually be a quality win. V Tech has some legit competition down the road...If they win those game Boise is moving up in peoples minds. I do think that if two schools from a BCS auto qualifier go undefeated Boise is odd man out for sure.

So much for that. That being said this was a classic letdown situation for Tech and I still think the win on Monday was impressive.

[Cuse0323]

So much for that. That being said this was a classic letdown situation for Tech and I still think the win on Monday was impressive.

Agreed, looks bad but VaTech was crushed after the loss to Boise and they weren't focused at all.

[daneblazer]

maybe Boise can meet James Madison in the BCS championship? They'll have a similar strength of schedule