How Can Anyone Still Doubt Boise State at this point?

[Fishhead]

LT, I tried telling you this BEFORE the game.

[Skidcom]

Against so many odds it is an incredible program

[teaserpleaser]

Kellen Moore has sick pocket awareness he should teach Jamarcus russell how to slide in the pocket to avoid a pass rush.

[daneblazer]

They're a good team and all, but they play one maybe two intense games each year. It's not difficult to get up and play for those games, especially when the BCS school in the bowl game probably could care less to play Boise. Boise NEVER has to worry about a let down game because after their big game, the next one is always against Cake U.

[Fishhead]

They're a good team and all, but they play one maybe two intense games each year. It's not difficult to get up and play for those games, especially when the BCS school in the bowl game probably could care less to play Boise. Boise NEVER has to worry about a let down game because after their big game, the next one is always against Cake U.

Or better yet..................a BYE.

[ProfaneReality]

Sorry but they know they play in an awful conference and think scheduling one 2nd or 3rd tier team a year is enough for them to get a national title shot.. if they want to play in the bcs title game, they need to stop scheduling the likes of toledo, wyoming, miami of ohio, bowling green, uc-davis, tulsa etc on top of their ridiculouys conference games against idaho st, utah st, new mexico st, etc

[RudyRuetigger]

commonnnn va. tech isnt exactly an elite team. look what happens when they play the SEC or when Boise played Georgia.

[unusialsusp5]

i don't understand why people care who wins college footballs championship. if you're team loses 1 game (see VT) they are practically eliminated from the BCS championship game. So now VT fans have little to root for. Or any other team that loses certainly 2 games is out. At least in the NFL regular season losses don't have that impact. It is hard to go undefeated. The only thing that really matters is if you can cover spreads. There is no reason to be a fan of a college team with the purpose to win a championship. who cares about that nonsense except the players. Your bankroll is 99% more important than the overall record of your favorite college teams.

[LT Profits]

Boise needs to be rooting for V Tech to actually be a quality win. V Tech has some legit competition down the road...If they win those game Boise is moving up in peoples minds. I do think that if two schools from a BCS auto qualifier go undefeated Boise is odd man out for sure.

No, if Boise goes undefeated, which they now should, the only way they don't go to the BCS Title game is if both Alabama and Ohio State go undefeated. If one of those two lose a game, then Boise is in regardless of what Va Tech does.

[LT Profits]

LT, I tried telling you this BEFORE the game.

I loved Boise all week, I only backed off when I saw the heavy RLM on Monday. That's OK, sharps are right more often than they are wrong, so I have backed off a,lot of losers in the past with that approach.

[LT Profits]

commonnnn va. tech isnt exactly an elite team. look what happens when they play the SEC or when Boise played Georgia.

Boise vs, Georgia is totally irrelevant to this conversation because Georgia was simply much better than Boise the year they played.

The Boise team this year is the best they have ever had and could hang with any team in the country.

[twincities77]

Read Post #1.

It's not Boise's fault their conference sucks, and it doesn't matter because they keep winning when they step up in class to face BCS schools, proving that they are legit.

Completely agree LT. It's funny how time and again they beat all comers, yet people still find excuses. What have they won now, 27 out of 28? That's hard to do no matter what conference you play in.

[JMUplayer]

Want to take a guess how many 1st round NFL picks they've had in the past two years?

That's freaking impressive considering the sell job they have to do to high school kids.
The MWC is going to be very good very soon in the landscape of college football.

[dherd]

cant doubt boise any longer - they are fast as lightning on defense = may be the fastet college defense ive ever seen. to go in and beat vt on vt turf at night speaks tons. but, all that said and even with turnovers all vt had to do was run that little qb around the end three times on the series before bs scored and the game would have been over because he no doubt would have picked up the final first down.

[mtneer1212]

Boise would beat ANY team in the Pac-10. I am also not as high on Ohio State as most people as I am anti Big Ten, although the Buckeyes are far and away the best team in the conference. I still that that Alabama is better. If Ohio State goes undefeated and Alabama loses a game, than it will have to beat Ohio State vs. Boise and Boise wins that game outright. If Ohio State loses a game, then it will almost certainly be Boise vs. SEC Champ, and I would take Boise with the points as a decided underdog.

LT, normally I feel just about anything you say is gospel, and I too despise the Big Ten; however, I think this year, the Big Ten is a better conference (it pains me to say that) than the SEC, or at least the gap is very very narrow this year. The SEC is WAY down, with Alabama being awesome, Georgia and South Carolina being very good, and everyone else average (LSU, Miss St, Kentucky, Florida, Arkansas, Auburn) or not very good (Mississippi, Tennessee, and Vandy).

In the Big Ten, you have a very very good team in Ohio State, several good teams (Michigan, Iowa, and Wisconsin), a couple of average teams (Michigan State, Penn State) and the also-rans (Indiana, Northwestern, Illinois, Minnesota and Purdue).

Boise impressed me with their team speed, but Va Tech outplayed them in my opinion, and gave the game away. I personally am rooting for Boise to make the championship game, because that will bring a playoff even faster -- especially when a one loss SEC team or Big Ten team gets left out.

[RASHANANT]

[COLOR=#000000 !important]Boise needs to be rooting for V Tech to actually be a quality win. V Tech has some legit competition down the road...If they win those game Boise is moving up in peoples minds. I do think that if two schools from a BCS auto qualifier go undefeated Boise is odd man out for sure[/COLOR]
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[COLOR=#000000 !important]great point DeluxLiner, that is so right thats what lee corso, and chris fowler will be talking about, and also remember this virgingia tech team has to play @ miami this year, and ohio state is playing miami next, you cant tell me that if ohio state runs the table and beats Iowa and michigan that they wont be the front runners for a national championship, sorry to say but it looks like boise will have to wait another year to win that national title because until there is a playoff their strength of schedule will be key and besides the big time college teams that we all know, love or hate are called power houses for a reason, because of what they did in the past, so in order for boise to get that type of favortism they need another 4 to 5 seasons of winning pretty much,of all their games. The bottom line people out west may believe in them, but I can tell you the south and south east still not that impressed yet, and yeah they have been their so called tough games but until they start playing rigourous type of schedule and kicking everybody on that schedules' you know what, they still will be regarded as good but not great![/COLOR]

[mtneer1212]

Want to take a guess how many 1st round NFL picks they've had in the past two years?

That's freaking impressive considering the sell job they have to do to high school kids.
The MWC is going to be very good very soon in the landscape of college football.

The MWC took a large step back with the defections of Utah and BYU. If they had stayed, the conference would have been better than the ACC and Big East. Their top 4 could have been BYU, Utah, TCU, Boise St, etc.... but now.....

[MartinBlank]

LT, normally I feel just about anything you say is gospel, and I too despise the Big Ten; however, I think this year, the Big Ten is a better conference (it pains me to say that) than the SEC, or at least the gap is very very narrow this year. The SEC is WAY down, with Alabama being awesome, Georgia and South Carolina being very good, and everyone else average (LSU, Miss St, Kentucky, Florida, Arkansas, Auburn) or not very good (Mississippi, Tennessee, and Vandy).

In the Big Ten, you have a very very good team in Ohio State, several good teams (Michigan, Iowa, and Wisconsin), a couple of average teams (Michigan State, Penn State, and ) and the also-rans (Indiana, Northwestern, Illinois, Minnesota and Purdue).

Boise impressed me with their team speed, but Va Tech outplayed them in my opinion, and gave the game away. I persoanlly am rooting for Boise to make the championship game, because that will bring a playoff even faster -- especially when a one loss SEC team or Big Ten team gets left out.

Too many people make the mistake of taking one game and giving ridiculous value to that game, especially the first game of the season.

What makes Michigan a "good team"? A win over Connecticut?

I am not buying that stock just yet.

And what makes Florida average? They struggled the first week of the season?

Florida has gobs of NFL talent running around that campus, and Meyer will get the kinks worked out.

I think the difference between the Big 10 and the SEC is the depth. Excluding Vanderbilt-----I think the third best team in the Big 10 would have a difficult time beating the bottom half of the SEC. Whereas, I am pretty sure the 3rd best team in the SEC----would be a serious contender to win the Big 10. Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina......would all give Ohio State trouble.

All the same, this is a great debate. Good stuff.

[BigdaddyQH]

The absolutely incredable ignorance displaqyed by our many losers in here is astounding. The same losers who said that Boise had no chance of defeating Va.Tech now say that Boise is not a good team. You poeple should take up knitting or something, becasue your knowledge of football whould not fill a thimble. It's the same old caca from you clowns who think you know it all, and constantly lose your money. Stupidity breeds stupidity.

[Hammew]

Great game. Boise wins the National Title in 2010-11. 4-0 against the BCS. Boise traveled over 2500 miles to play VT on virtually their home field and beat them. Doesn't matter that the score was "close", because close only counts in hand grenades and horse shoes.

[Hammew]

Most of the teams you mention played SEC, Big 12 schools the first week.

[Smoke]

i tried telling everyone b4 the game.. even the ignorant brock landers. this team continues to beat the big boys and get no respect.. So fukkin what they have a soft schedule big fukkkin deal.. when they play a big they beat a big..

[poochiecollins]

^^ i know my buckeyes like the back of my dick.

This may not mean much; for instance, you may be downward-curving. You probably won't know it too well, then.

[zacharyj53]

No, if Boise goes undefeated, which they now should, the only way they don't go to the BCS Title game is if both Alabama and Ohio State go undefeated. If one of those two lose a game, then Boise is in regardless of what Va Tech does.

You are trying to make an argument for them yet when people say lines like this it does the exact opposite. If Bama beats Penn St this weekend are you going to say the same thing? No you aren't, well why not?

[GoBlue2404]

Boise is a good team, but gimme a break! VT spotted them 17 points and then outplayed them for 2.75 quarters. If it weren't for poor play calling at the end, everyone in America would be saying "I told you so" about Boise. VT lost that game, Boise didn't win it. I'll give them credit for executing down the stretch, but that's what a good team does, takes advantage of mistakes. A great team would have never let VT back in the game. Congrats to Boise, but they are not a top 3 team.

[newguy]

Not to take anything away from boise st. But name me any other team in the country that can play 2 decent teams and 10 cupcakes and play for the title. Can boise hang with bama? Maybe in a one game situation but in the rigors of any other conference they dont make the title game. That being said i am rooting for boise this year. If they play for nat champ over a 1 loss ohio st or bama or other to team then we will have a playoffs very quickly

[GoBlue2404]

Too many people make the mistake of taking one game and giving ridiculous value to that game, especially the first game of the season.

What makes Michigan a "good team"? A win over Connecticut?

I am not buying that stock just yet.

And what makes Florida average? They struggled the first week of the season?

Florida has gobs of NFL talent running around that campus, and Meyer will get the kinks worked out.

I think the difference between the Big 10 and the SEC is the depth. Excluding Vanderbilt-----I think the third best team in the Big 10 would have a difficult time beating the bottom half of the SEC. Whereas, I am pretty sure the 3rd best team in the SEC----would be a serious contender to win the Big 10. Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina......would all give Ohio State trouble.

All the same, this is a great debate. Good stuff.

Quit listening to the talking heads! The SEC is a very good conference but they are not that good to say the 3rd best team in the Big 10 (Iowa, Wiscy, Penn St or MSU depending how you rank them) would have trouble beating the bottom half of the SEC! That is just ludicrous! All 4 of those teams could easily compete in the SEC just as Georgia, Auburn, Arkansas and LSU would/do and would not lose more than 2 games (b/c of a fluke) against Kentucky, Vandy, Ole Miss, Tennessee or Miss St. Iowa, Wiscy and Ohio St would have the greatest chances of knocking off Bama or Florida and IMHO, it wouldn't be a surprise if they did. It won't surprise me if Auburn, Georgia or Arkansas won the SEC this year either. The difference between Kentucky, Vandy, Ole Miss, Tennessee and Miss St compared to Michigan, NW, Purdue, Illinois, Indiana and Minnesota isn't that great. All 6 of those Big 10 teams could easily go .500 against the 5 SEC teams. The SEC is a very good conference and probably the best by a small margin, but they are not hands down the best.

[RASHANANT]

Regardless of who thinks boise is good or not college football analyst and pollsters and coaches are mostly gonna play the waiting game as far as putting boise in a national championship picture, it happens everyyear just about and bottom line is if another bigger familiar name school wins impressive and is able to stay undefeated then thats gonna sway the people that matter who make these decisions go favor another team because of schedule. Besides football is played on the field and everyone can have a bad or good game because it's a team sport we'll really never know who is really stronger or more consistent because there is no playoff, and as far as betting on boise, I'm sure anyone who is a good better would bet on them because of their ability and what they've shown thats if u want to win money, I am no boise fan by no means, I respect them and no matter who they play as much as anyone who doesnt like them you gotta know they are gonna play hard and make it interesting and at the end of the day thats y we all watch and some love the game because of the parity in college football where talent is everywhere. recruits are no longer trying to wait and play where there is tradition, they rather be the man on a lesser known team and get all the ackolades so they can get that big check. So I think its good there are teams like this cause thats more money to be able to win!

[pdx107]

Sorry but they know they play in an awful conference and think scheduling one 2nd or 3rd tier team a year is enough for them to get a national title shot.. if they want to play in the bcs title game, they need to stop scheduling the likes of toledo, wyoming, miami of ohio, bowling green, uc-davis, tulsa etc on top of their ridiculouys conference games against idaho st, utah st, new mexico st, etc

easier said than done, they have attempted to do so and the bulk of the major schools refuse to play them... nothing for the other school to gain..

[mtneer1212]

If Boise State is in the championship game over a one loss BCS School, especially an SEC or Big ten school, one of two things will happen:

Conference expansion to 16 team mega conferences will accelerate in full force, or a playoff system will be implemented immediately. The big schools will not allow a WAC school to win one game over an above average BCS school, then take a spot in the championship game, even if that is essentially the same thing Ohio State has done in 3 of the past 4 years.

Go Boise -- end the madness for us all!

[Ralphie1412]

Fuk them, they get to play Hawaii, San jose St, LA Tech, Fresno, Nevada. Tough schedule there

[KingJIM]

No, if Boise goes undefeated, which they now should, the only way they don't go to the BCS Title game is if both Alabama and Ohio State go undefeated. If one of those two lose a game, then Boise is in regardless of what Va Tech does.

What if a team from another BCS conference goes undefeated? I think think the only way they could get into Championship game is if there is only one undefeated team. What I think will happen is Ohio State goes undefeated and a one loss SEC team jumps Boise into game.

[hoop guru]

Boise St should have became an independent this year. SHould have played ORegon this year and not oregon st. ORegon much better team than BOise st this year. Boise st depth is not great if key playermakers get hurt. THat is why Boise plays cupcakes. I say let BOise st play that chicken-shit schedule and they will never play for a championship. NCAA needs to have Boise St remove that blue turf which is such disadantage for a visiting team. It should be illegial. IF ALabama was playing BOise st scheudle, the tide would win every conference game by 50 plus points. LEts face it., Boise st schedule is a fucin joke. ANd why do not BOise St have a more difficult non-conference. VT is not goin to finish in the top. FOr Boise St, I hope VT has a losing season. Then this victory over ranked team becomes meaningless.

[alukk]

Looks like it will be Boise State vs. the SEC Champ (Alabama again?) for all the marbles, and that may also help settle the "what if Boise played in the SEC" argument.

Thats how its going to be. If Boise can win their games by more than 25 points there will be a lot of pressure to the commisioners and then theyll play for the national tittle.

[alukk]

They're a good team and all, but they play one maybe two intense games each year. It's not difficult to get up and play for those games, especially when the BCS school in the bowl game probably could care less to play Boise. Boise NEVER has to worry about a let down game because after their big game, the next one is always against Cake U.

They have to worry beacuse they need to win those games by a lot of points