Okay, I guess I will share my NCAAF system/strategy

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  • He_Who_Forgets
    SBR Rookie
    • 09-26-10
    • 13

    #141
    Originally posted by 70kgman
    For you playing the teasers, here is what I came up with for the season so far if you played them that way...

    If you teased each game individually 7+ points (even 6 would of been good enough) to win one unit each: 10-2 (guessing around +5 units)

    If you took all the plays game each week and played every possible combination of a 2-team 7 point teaser to win 1 unit each: 13-6 (+6.7 units)

    thanks!
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    • jose21_us
      SBR MVP
      • 05-24-10
      • 3844

      #142
      dam so much for that teaser texas got there ass kicked...
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      • kevinslack1016
        SBR High Roller
        • 09-17-10
        • 162

        #143
        Not trying to hate but I feel like this system does not produce as well as just simply evaluating teams and not using any specific filters
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        • daneault23
          SBR MVP
          • 09-08-09
          • 3865

          #144
          Not sure if it's a reliable angle to look at, but I was thinking about betting against TEXAS and on NEBRASKA and I didn't. Both won (ISU and NEBRASKA) Texas got their win and was happy, and nebraska was pissed
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          • DBaseball23
            SBR High Roller
            • 04-07-08
            • 212

            #145
            Week 8 plays:

            Filter A: Stanford (-34.5) LOSS

            Filter B: Texas (-21.5) LOSS


            YTD:
            A: 5-5
            B: 1-3
            ------------------
            6-8
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            • jose21_us
              SBR MVP
              • 05-24-10
              • 3844

              #146
              A very bad weekend all around...
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              • DBaseball23
                SBR High Roller
                • 04-07-08
                • 212

                #147
                70kgman seemed to have disappeared. I'll try to keep this going.

                Week 9 plays:

                TCU -35.5 (A)

                Ohio St -25.5 (B)


                YTD:
                A: 5-5
                B: 1-3
                ------------------
                6-8
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                • DBaseball23
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 04-07-08
                  • 212

                  #148
                  Originally posted by jose21_us
                  A very bad weekend all around...
                  Same here. This was my first losing week in a couple months. Hope to turn it around again. GL
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                  • 70kgman
                    SBR MVP
                    • 01-31-10
                    • 4354

                    #149
                    Originally posted by DBaseball23
                    70kgman seemed to have disappeared. I'll try to keep this going.

                    Week 9 plays:

                    TCU -35.5 (A)

                    Ohio St -25.5 (B)


                    YTD:
                    A: 5-5
                    B: 1-3
                    ------------------
                    These are correct. Hopefully these start to turn around. For whatever reason they aren't really panning out this season. Last season there were only 4 combined losses between the 2 filters all season long. Also on pace to get nearly double the amount of plays this season than last season. Could be the growing number of running quarterbacks and all the wildcat stuff skewing all these YPC averages.
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                    • jose21_us
                      SBR MVP
                      • 05-24-10
                      • 3844

                      #150
                      hopefully a big bounce back this weekend...
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                      • 70kgman
                        SBR MVP
                        • 01-31-10
                        • 4354

                        #151
                        2-0 this week. next week...

                        Filter A: Oregon -28

                        Filter A: Michigan St. -24
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                        • M.W.
                          SBR MVP
                          • 09-07-08
                          • 1668

                          #152
                          very good - thanks
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                          • jose21_us
                            SBR MVP
                            • 05-24-10
                            • 3844

                            #153
                            yes was nice i teased both of them!
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                            • jose21_us
                              SBR MVP
                              • 05-24-10
                              • 3844

                              #154
                              WOW oregon was some great value when I locked it on monday for -28! The line is -35 now....
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                              • jose21_us
                                SBR MVP
                                • 05-24-10
                                • 3844

                                #155
                                1-1 for this week... Do you have next weeks plays yet?
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                                • 70kgman
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 01-31-10
                                  • 4354

                                  #156
                                  1-1 this week. The loss was another near miss that was just a couple points away from covering. That seems to be the trend this season.

                                  11/12

                                  Filter A - Air Force -31.5

                                  Filter A - Wisconsin -21.5

                                  Filter A - Nebraska -34.5

                                  Filter A - Boise St. -35

                                  Filter B - Illinois -20.5


                                  YTD:
                                  A: 7-6
                                  B: 2-3
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                                  • M.W.
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 09-07-08
                                    • 1668

                                    #157
                                    Thanks, those look good.
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                                    • mangina11
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 02-01-10
                                      • 397

                                      #158
                                      BOL this week
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                                      • jose21_us
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 05-24-10
                                        • 3844

                                        #159
                                        If I am not mistaken we went 2-3 this week... Anyone have next weeks plays?
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                                        • 70kgman
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 01-31-10
                                          • 4354

                                          #160
                                          These are the plays, but to be honest, I think I am just going to be tracking for the rest of the year and not actually putting money on them. The system just seems to be 50/50 this year. There have been quite a few bad beats and near misses, but just the fact the system seems to be producing twice as many plays this season as any other year sort of makes me think the angle might be skewed now due to changes in the game (mainly style of play).

                                          Filter A - Oklahoma St. -22.5

                                          Filter A - Nevada -37.5

                                          Filter B - Hawaii -30
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                                          • 70kgman
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 01-31-10
                                            • 4354

                                            #161
                                            And of course the first week I decide to stop playing them for real money they go 3-0. Isn't that always how it goes? If anyone is playing these til the end, or wants to see them for any other reason, these would be next weeks plays...

                                            Filter A - Northern Illinois -23

                                            Filter B - Hawaii -26.5

                                            Filter B - Missouri -24.5

                                            Filter B - San Diego St. -24.5

                                            A - 11-8
                                            B - 3-4
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                                            • Nepaa
                                              SBR High Roller
                                              • 10-12-08
                                              • 119

                                              #162
                                              i like NIU and hawaii.
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                                              • surftex
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 09-23-10
                                                • 125

                                                #163
                                                Tough break 70kg. Thanks for keeping the thread alive though.
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                                                • M.W.
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 09-07-08
                                                  • 1668

                                                  #164
                                                  good luck
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                                                  • jose21_us
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 05-24-10
                                                    • 3844

                                                    #165
                                                    Dam that sucks I didnt play them either....
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                                                    • YotesFan47
                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                      • 11-13-10
                                                      • 24

                                                      #166
                                                      keep it going, its interesting to see how it will pan out by the end of the year.
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                                                      • 70kgman
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 01-31-10
                                                        • 4354

                                                        #167
                                                        Originally posted by YotesFan47
                                                        keep it going, its interesting to see how it will pan out by the end of the year.
                                                        I still like the angle. Though I think it needs to be modified for next season. In my opinion, the heavy increase in running QB's and wildcat stuff these last few years in college football is skewing the running averages and making them less accurate for the angle of this system. This is probably why the system is producing far more plays than any other year. The concept of the system is for these big favorites to ideally get a big lead by halftime, and then mainly use their running game to run clock in the 2nd half, thus exposing bad run defenses to run up the score and keep the other team off the field in the process. And late in the game running out clock, the running game mainly comes from the running backs, not QB runs. The system isn't bad or anything this year, it is still up 3 or 4 units so far, but finding a way to eliminate QB running averages from the mix should make it much stronger and bring back it's edge.
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                                                        • scarp
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 01-12-10
                                                          • 697

                                                          #168
                                                          Ill give it a shot.. Ive got a system.. bet Boise State no matter what the spread is!!
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                                                          • dume walker
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 04-08-10
                                                            • 971

                                                            #169
                                                            I was kind of hoping to see Wisconsin -23 in your mix. They are pretty much defined by the running game. Old school power football. And Northwestern gave up 591 yards rushing to Illinois last week. The Illini were breaking off some really big runs. For Wisconsin, it appears the key to their running game is their massive offensive line, even more so than their talented running backs. So even with Clay out against Michigan, and even with them running their 2's, 3's and 4's against Indiana, the offense was still potent.

                                                            My biggest concern with Wisconsin is they can go to sleep on you for a half or so. Did this in the first half against Purdue. Did it in the second half against Michigan. Beat Michigan 28-0 in first half, then basically traded points with them in the second. Michigan winning 2nd half by 4.

                                                            Northwestern on the other hand is thin and tends to wear down in the 4th quarter. Persa -- their starting QB who I believe was also their leading rusher -- is out and his replacement is a freshman who went 10 for 20 passing last week. Not the kind of high-scoring spread like Michigan has that did put up points in the 2nd half. Thinking of buying Wisky down to -21. I'd appreciate any feedback you might have on this K-man.

                                                            I was also looking at Hawaii but decided to lay off. The game starts at the equivalent of 7 a.m. Hawaii time. That's a little early for a high-flying offense to get up to speed.

                                                            Happy Thanksgiving and BOL to everyone on their plays this weekend.
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                                                            • JustCover
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 11-14-09
                                                              • 126

                                                              #170
                                                              It's been talked about before on a different forum about teams that out rush their opponent 2 to 1, have covered at around 75-80% over the past 3-4 years. It's possible that sportsbooks are picking up on this as well and thus have inflated the spreads enough to try and bring in that percentage which may have accounted for all of those tough losses this year? Regardless, I definitely think these rushing numbers play a major role in handicapping college games.
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                                                              • 70kgman
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 01-31-10
                                                                • 4354

                                                                #171
                                                                Originally posted by dume walker
                                                                I'd appreciate any feedback you might have on this K-man.
                                                                I think your reasoning sounds pretty solid to me. Northwestern also have been pretty bad on the road this season (1-4 ATS) which helps. Two things I also like to look at when capping college football games is SOS and how many home/away games each team has played to that point. Both teams have played 5 away and 6 home so no advantage there, but Wisconsin has had the more difficult schedule, so looking at statistics alone, you can give Wisconsin even more of edge than what you see on the surface because they have put up those numbers against tougher opponents.
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                                                                • Superman455
                                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                                  • 09-23-08
                                                                  • 366

                                                                  #172
                                                                  Nice write up..thanks for the tip
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                                                                  • Las Vegas Tom
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                                                                    • 08-30-10
                                                                    • 36

                                                                    #173
                                                                    70kgman, you may have answered this already, so I apoligize if I am being redundant, but why is the system only limited to 20+ point underdogs? Wouldn't the theory behind the system also work with smaller favorites?
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                                                                    • 70kgman
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 01-31-10
                                                                      • 4354

                                                                      #174
                                                                      Originally posted by Las Vegas Tom
                                                                      70kgman, you may have answered this already, so I apoligize if I am being redundant, but why is the system only limited to 20+ point underdogs? Wouldn't the theory behind the system also work with smaller favorites?
                                                                      Sorry. Missed this question earlier. The reason it only works in concept with large 20+ favorites is because those games are going to be blowouts the majority of the time. And most of the time these big favorites are going to have large multiple possession leads by halftime. So the 2nd half you are going to see far more running from them than passing. In a close game (or projected close games), you are going to have a balanced attack of running and passing from start to finish which isn't going to exploit the bad run defenses as effectively.
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                                                                      • 70kgman
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 01-31-10
                                                                        • 4354

                                                                        #175
                                                                        Anyway, system went 4-0 this week. It is now 7-0 over the last two weeks. Guess it just took a while to get going, I guess as the stats accumulate week after week and average out more, the system gets stronger later in the year.
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