Instead of kicking the PAT to go up 8, Gophers went for 2

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  • BigDofBA
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 09-30-09
    • 19313

    #1
    Instead of kicking the PAT to go up 8, Gophers went for 2
    And failed. How stupid.

    With a minute left you go up 8. Dumb move. Noted.
  • Memento
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    • 01-28-15
    • 1192

    #2
    Originally posted by BigDofBA
    And failed. How stupid.

    With a minute left you go up 8. Dumb move. Noted.
    yeah, that is absurd!
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    • BetterBizness
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      • 05-20-06
      • 5737

      #3
      Yes... especailyl when I had over 53.5... I"m in penetrating shock
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      • BigDofBA
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        • 09-30-09
        • 19313

        #4
        That coach is a moron.

        I've never seen such a horrible decision. You go up 8. Lol
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        • maggiethebestdog
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          • 12-21-13
          • 6700

          #5
          It is amazing how some of these guys get coaching jobs. That is a no brainer.
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          • BigDofBA
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            • 09-30-09
            • 19313

            #6
            Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
            It is amazing how some of these guys get coaching jobs. That is a no brainer.
            If you're a D1 coach, how do you not know that is a horrible decision?
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            • BetterBizness
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              • 05-20-06
              • 5737

              #7
              I had Mets fish under 9.5 today and now this... that one I shook off pretty easy.. shitty but whatever Rodney is a POS... this though... I mean... I needed a point and I was pretty fking happy on the TD... went to the can then I came back and it said 2 Pt convert failed... what?
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              • maggiethebestdog
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                • 12-21-13
                • 6700

                #8
                Originally posted by BigDofBA
                If you're a D1 coach, how do you not know that is a horrible decision?
                A pee wee coach should know better than that.
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                • BetterBizness
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                  • 05-20-06
                  • 5737

                  #9
                  Honestly happy I can vent to all you dum fuks who don't feel sorry for me with your own degen issues...

                  I mean that... thanks... No one in the world understands other than the people here.
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                  • xdodger19
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                    • 11-20-12
                    • 18012

                    #10
                    coaches dont understand basic win theory
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                    • JayDr3am
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                      • 05-06-14
                      • 18260

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BetterBizness
                      Yes... especailyl when I had over 53.5... I"m in penetrating shock
                      i knew that dumbass coaching decision screwed SOMEONES total. that is unreal
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                      • fried cheese
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-17-13
                        • 4461

                        #12
                        although i think it was a bad decision in this instance, since he has a more defensive oriented team, its not always a bad idea. if you think the probability of your team converting is higher than the probability of your defense stopping a conversion then you should go for two.

                        if you have a really bad defense and a good offense, like manziel era texas a&m, you should go for two.
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                        • RavensFan2k3
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                          • 08-18-12
                          • 17378

                          #13
                          Originally posted by BetterBizness
                          Yes... especailyl when I had over 53.5... I"m in penetrating shock
                          Wow that's terrible
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                          • survive
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                            • 01-08-11
                            • 2388

                            #14
                            i had osu +5.5 2h....would've lost if they converted
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                            • BigDofBA
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                              • 09-30-09
                              • 19313

                              #15
                              Originally posted by fried cheese
                              although i think it was a bad decision in this instance, since he has a more defensive oriented team, its not always a bad idea. if you think the probability of your team converting is higher than the probability of your defense stopping a conversion then you should go for two.

                              if you have a really bad defense and a good offense, like manziel era texas a&m, you should go for two.
                              Mathematics and pretty much any competent coach say it's a horrible decision.

                              Up 7, you always kick the point. This is based on simple Math. You can google it.

                              You go up 8 and force the other team to convert the two point conversion if they score.

                              You don't go for it because if you miss it, like they did last night, the other team sends it to overtime with a TD or possibly wins it if they go for 2.

                              You make it as hard as possible on the other team and leave it where if everything possible goes wrong in the last minute, the worst thing that can happen is overtime.

                              Going up 8 is a no brainer. I'm not surprised that "decision" affected the total by .5.

                              What is Oregon State had marched down the field, tied it, and won in OT?
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                              • fried cheese
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                                • 09-17-13
                                • 4461

                                #16
                                Originally posted by BigDofBA
                                Mathematics and pretty much any competent coach say it's a horrible decision.

                                Up 7, you always kick the point. This is based on simple Math. You can google it.

                                You go up 8 and force the other team to convert the two point conversion if they score.

                                You don't go for it because if you miss it, like they did last night, the other team sends it to overtime with a TD or possibly wins it if they go for 2.

                                You make it as hard as possible on the other team and leave it where if everything possible goes wrong in the last minute, the worst thing that can happen is overtime.

                                Going up 8 is a no brainer. I'm not surprised that "decision" affected the total by .5.

                                What is Oregon State had marched down the field, tied it, and won in OT?
                                no, mathematics is what i posted. if you make your 2 point conversion 55% of the time on average then the game goes to overtime 45% of the time when the other team scores a td if you go for 2. if your defense defense can only stop the other teams conversion 50% of the time then the game goes to overtime 50% of the time if they score a td and you kick the extra point. in this scenario if they go for 2 after you miss your conversion, they have a 50% chance to win/lose the game if they go for 2 before overtime, but overtime can have a less than 50% chance of success for underdogs and away teams so that could also upgrade your chances of winning.
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                                • maggiethebestdog
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                                  • 12-21-13
                                  • 6700

                                  #17
                                  Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but going for 2 there is insane. In every game, what is the % of 2 point conversions made as opposed to 1 point kicks??? That is the % a football coach should be looking at. You can have a virtually guaranteed 8 pt lead vs a 50% chance of a 7 point lead. Take the sure thing every time. Also, in this case, Minn totally shut down Oreg St in the 2nd half. They only scored on a bad snap safety by Minn and a 25 yd drive TD drive after Minn muffed a punt. He got away with it, but it was a horrible decision.
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                                  • BigDofBA
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                                    • 09-30-09
                                    • 19313

                                    #18
                                    It is insane. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen a coach go for it in that situation....at any level.

                                    If you're up 6 to you go for two? Why? Simillar logic applies up 7.
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                                    • GoBlue77
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                                      • 03-20-11
                                      • 9166

                                      #19
                                      i actually had live bet beavers +8.5 and was like WTF is he doing going for 2. you don't go for 2 in that situation. pure stupidity
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                                      • BigdaddyQH
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                                        • 07-13-09
                                        • 19530

                                        #20
                                        This is why you idiots lose all of your money. Wagering on a team you know nothing about, I can see most of you will be wiped out by week 4.
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                                        • BetterBizness
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                                          • 05-20-06
                                          • 5737

                                          #21
                                          clearly all of us must be alum of a school to bet on them smh
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