2013 Mac's Early Leans

[Mac4Lyfe]

Don't forget the refs fukked NC State on a long TD run. Said the guy stepped out of bounds when it was pretty clear he was nowhere near the line. That play was huge.

god only knows why you were so confident urbanwildlife.....big gaps in Clemson's defense all game so the real shock was why ncstate only had 7(which was thanks to a penalty)....I never had any confidence Clemson could get them off the field. Wanted to hedge it but since they went on a damb world record setting drive never had a live play in opp.....

[playmaker79]

yeah but as you said in that case the opposing coach was pissed off by it that he wouldn't shake his hand, so he clearly saw it as very unusual behavior. And clemsons fg kicker doesn't need work...he's an absolute stud. I knew they wouldn't even consider the fg. Also, if you look at the way Clemson played that last ncstate drive and dabo's post game comments, I don't even consider this a backdoor. Can it be a backdoor is the defense is playing 100 base defense with the starters all in? And looking at venerbles(sp?) on the sidelines and dabo saying they pisssed they were to give that one up, I don't even look at this as a backdoor loss.....this was just another shitty play on my part and I take full responsibility for it.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Wake the fukkk up Chiefs defense. Wake up!!!

[Mac4Lyfe]

Oh, I said earlier Dabo wasn't kicking a FG. I knew unless we had a run out that shit was over. I personally would kick that shit, not to be an asshole but in college, it's a beauty pageant. Beating teams convincingly may be the difference between making a BCS bowl or even the national championship. I firmly believe in running up the score in college until they go to a playoff.

Clemson had a lot of opportunities to cover the 1st half and game. We were on the wrong side of this one but it wasn't necessarily an awful play. Chiefs ML is looking to be an awful play right now

yeah but as you said in that case the opposing coach was pissed off by it that he wouldn't shake his hand, so he clearly saw it as very unusual behavior. And clemsons fg kicker doesn't need work...he's an absolute stud. I knew they wouldn't even consider the fg. Also, if you look at the way Clemson played that last ncstate drive and dabo's post game comments, I don't even consider this a backdoor. Can it be a backdoor is the defense is playing 100 base defense with the starters all in? And looking at venerbles(sp?) on the sidelines and dabo saying they pisssed they were to give that one up, I don't even look at this as a backdoor loss.....this was just another shitty play on my part and I take full responsibility for it.

[Night-Tripper]

We are ******. Back door NC Cover and now Clem is penetrating this up. We need a 3-ball

In no way should this game be considered a backdoor cover... not when that kid's righteous (and impressive) TD run was called back when he never went out-of bounds. All in all, the game was much closer than the score indicated.

[Night-Tripper]

Oh, I said earlier Dabo wasn't kicking a FG. I knew unless we had a run out that shit was over. I personally would kick that shit, not to be an asshole but in college, it's a beauty pageant. Beating teams convincingly may be the difference between making a BCS bowl or even the national championship. I firmly believe in running up the score in college until they go to a playoff.

Clemson had a lot of opportunities to cover the 1st half and game. We were on the wrong side of this one but it wasn't necessarily an awful play. Chiefs ML is looking to be an awful play right now

If Suckoff doesn't miss this FG, our Chiefs +3 as well as our Chiefs moneyline should be good.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Game over... Let's cash this bitch.

Folks were too enamored with the Eagles 1st half against Washington. Look for a lot of growing pains out of this offense.

If Suckoff doesn't miss this FG, our Chiefs +3 as well as our Chiefs moneyline should be good.

[FreshCope]

I am on KC +3 (ding), Phl TT under (ding) and the o51 (still a prayer)

[Night-Tripper]

Game over... Let's cash this bitch.

Folks were too enamored with the Eagles 1st half against Washington. Look for a lot of growing pains out of this offense.

[Mayonnaise]

welp.... hell isnt going to freeze over tonite boys..... im 0-2 on the night

[Mac4Lyfe]

To be honest... NC State almost looked to be the better team. Both teams were basically even in total yards. NC State defensive line was the most dominant crew on the field tonight. The difference in the game was the 2 NC State turnovers and a couple of missed calls by the refs, especially that TD. The refs inadvertently blew the whistle early, I thought on another NCST run too. If Clemson didn't have a great FG kicker and that TD correctly called this game would probably be still in OT right now.

Ironically, I don't know why NCST called another offensive play so quickly after that disputed TD run. They should have allowed the replay crew to get additional looks at the play. I think the refs would have buzzed down to review it if they didn't hurry up on the ball. I don't understand why they felt the need to hurry up right there.

In no way should this game be considered a backdoor cover... not when that kid's righteous (and impressive) TD run was called back when he never went out-of bounds. All in all, the game was much closer than the score indicated.

[Night-Tripper]

Game over... Let's cash this bitch.

Folks were too enamored with the Eagles 1st half against Washington. Look for a lot of growing pains out of this offense.

Don't know if you're considering either side in the Lion/Redskin game... but if you are... I'd recommend taking the Redskins... not because I think RG-III is Superman, but because it's my feeling that you've got to fade the Lions due to their total lack of discipline. Until someone decides to put a stop to those clowns antics, personal fouls and assorted mindless penalties, they are going to be a no-play for me.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Michael Vick... Ouch.

Odds, Vick last the entire year... +15000

[Night-Tripper]

To be honest... NC State almost looked to be the better team. Both teams were basically even in total yards. NC State defensive line was the most dominant crew on the field tonight. The difference in the game was the 2 NC State turnovers and a couple of missed calls by the refs, especially that TD. The refs inadvertently blew the whistle early, I thought on another NCST run too. If Clemson didn't have a great FG kicker and that TD correctly called this game would probably be still in OT right now.

Ironically, I don't know why NCST called another offensive play so quickly after that disputed TD run. They should have allowed the replay crew to get additional looks at the play. I think the refs would have buzzed down to review it if they didn't hurry up on the ball. I don't understand why they felt the need to hurry up right there.

Dude... I agree with you 100%... on everything.

Still not sure why Doeren didn't call timeout to give the replay booth time to review the play.

Good luck to you!

[Mac4Lyfe]

I agree. The inmates are running the asylum. Hell Suh came out and basically said it's okay to play dirty.

But, that's probably a good game to pass. I don't know what to think of RGIII. The Lions do instill a sense of fear factor in QBs just because they are dirty. So QBs have to play with their heads on a swivel. Should be a lot better games but I agree, it's either Skins or no play.

Don't know if you're considering either side in the Lion/Redskin game... but if you are... I'd recommend taking the Redskins... not because I think RG-III is Superman, but because it's my feeling that you've got to fade the Lions due to their total lack of discipline. Until someone decides to put a stop to those clowns antics, personal fouls and assorted mindless penalties, they are going to be a no-play for me.

[Mac4Lyfe]

and always with you too. You know your football.

What's your thoughts on Tech versus Texas State? Seems like the line should be higher? Tech is much better this year and is playing at home this year? That line has me thinking State? Maybe just the Over?

Dude... I agree with you 100%... on everything.

Still not sure why Doeren didn't call timeout to give the replay booth time to review the play.

Good luck to you!

[Mac4Lyfe]

Fukkkk, I can't get right in CFB this season. Games are tougher than Chinese arithmetic. Majority of these games are fukking teasers, a point or 1.5 away from victory/defeat. Frustrating... Every team I back seem to be sitting at the goal line at the end of the half/game w/o scoring.

Clemson 9/19/2013 4:30PM - (PST)Spread -7 -115 for 1st Half
Clemson 9/19/2013 4:30PM - (PST) Spread -13½ -113 for Game

0-2 on the night.

Updated CFB Record
32-35 (48%)
14-13 (52%) on bolded plays[/QUOTE]

[Mayonnaise]

Mac, do u have picks for sunday yet?

[Mac4Lyfe]

NFL results...

Kansas City Chiefs 9/19/2013 5:25PM - (PST) Spread -3 +230 for Game <---alternate line

Updated NFL Record...

14-6 (70%)
6-4 (60%) on bolded plays[/QUOTE]

[Mac4Lyfe]

Not yet but I'm leaning...

Pats/Bucs under 44
Browns 1st half
Panthers -1
Falcons +2.5
Bears -2.5

I really like Bears, Browns 1st half and Falcons but will know more in a bit.

Mac, do u have picks for sunday yet?

[Mayonnaise]

Pending	5 Team Parlay
									Pending	9/22/13 1:00pm NFL Football 400 Dallas Cowboys -4 -110* vs St. Louis Rams
									Pending	9/22/13 1:00pm NFL Football 402 New Orleans Saints -9 +115* vs Arizona Cardinals
									Pending	9/22/13 1:00pm NFL Football 403 Detroit Lions +1 +105* vs Washington Redskins
									Pending	9/22/13 1:00pm NFL Football 408 Carolina Panthers pk -120* vs New York Giants
									Pending	9/22/13 4:25pm NFL Football 414 Seattle Seahawks -19 -110* vs Jacksonville Jaguars

this is me so far

[Urbanwildlife]

With the trade in Cleveland, might be a good idea to take a serious look at Minnesota. I do not play the NFL very often, and if I do it is only for entertainment purposes, but I would consider this game the NFL play of the week, as the Cleveland players for one are saying fcuk you to management and feeling like management has sold them out. Minnesota also played a decent game last week against the Bears, and they are playing at home.

By the way, see you on the yacht next weekend! Party time!

[gojetsgomoxies]

Early leans for this week...

Clemson 9/19/2013 4:30PM - (PST) Spread -13½ -113 for Game at NC State - Veteran Clemson team shouldn't overlook NC State

Boise State 9/20/2013 6:00PM - (PST) Spread +3 -115 for 1st Half at Fresno State - Hate Friday games. Fade the obvious.


Florida Intl 9/21/2013 9:00AM - (PST) Spread +43½ -108 for Game at Louisville - Seems a lot of points as UL has struggled a bit on Offense

Massachusetts 9/21/2013 9:00AM - (PST) Spread +32 -108 for Game versus Vanderbilt - UMass is awful but are they this awful?

Georgia Tech 9/21/2013 9:00AM - (PST) Spread -6 -108 for Game versus UNC - I hate UNC having an extra week to prepare but GT's offense is a little harder to stop than the past.

Army 9/21/2013 9:00AM - (PST) Spread +3 -113 for Game versus Wake Forest - Wake is on life support after losing the last 2 weeks. With Clemson coming up next week, they not only looking ahead but don't have enough time to prepare for Army's run game.

Louisiana Tech 9/21/2013 9:00AM - (PST) Spread +11 -108 for Game at Kansas - Tough call here. Kansas is starting to play better but can they put up enough points. Hate the early start for Kansas. The under is a possible play here.

North Texas 9/21/2013 9:20AM - (PST) Spread +32½ -108 for Game at Georgia - UGA look ahead with LSU on tap. Too many points for a NTexas team that can pass well.

Pittsburgh U/Duke 9/21/2013 9:30AM(PST) Total Points OVER 50½ -110 for Game - Are both these defenses overrated?


Kent/Penn State 9/21/2013 12:30PM(PST) Total Points UNDER 54 -110 for Game - tough total to call. I don't see Kent scoring much so probably prefer their team total under but I haven't quite warmed up to PSU's offense either.

Tennessee U 9/21/2013 12:30PM - (PST) Spread +16 -108 for Game at Florida - Can Florida cover any spread with that offense?

Maryland 9/21/2013 12:30PM - (PST) Spread -5 -108 for Game Versus WVU

Utah State/USC 9/21/2013 12:30PM(PST) Total Points UNDER 51 -110 for Game - 2 average offenses.

UL Monroe 9/21/2013 1:00PM - (PST) Spread +29 -108 for Game at Baylor - Baylor playing better than anyone but will a week layoff have them start slow? Will they be focused with a bye after this game too?

Notre Dame 9/21/2013 12:30PM - (PST) Spread -6½ -113 for Game versus MSU - Can MSU's offense score more than it's defense?


Texas A&M 9/21/2013 4:00PM - (PST) Spread -28 -113 for Game versus SMU - TAM has to be smarting after the loss. Can their defense make stops? Will the offense be fired up?

Colorado State 9/21/2013 4:00PM - (PST) Spread +39½ -108 for Game at Alabama Love this game. Might be the pick of the week. Bama coming off an emotional victory, sandwich game with Ole Miss on tap. Sabans old friend and ex OC Jim McElwain who knows Bama well. Saban calls off the dogs early in this one and rest players for next week.

Stanford 9/21/2013 4:00PM - (PST) Spread -7 -113 for Game versus Arizona State. ASU stole a game last week. Karma bites them quick.

Texas State 9/21/2013 4:00PM - (PST) Spread +27½ -108 for Game at Texas Tech - Texas Tech crushed TSU last year but why is the line this low? Seems like Tech should be +40 with better coaching and better players. Trap line has me leaning TSU?

Kansas State/Texas 9/21/2013 5:00PM(PST Total Points UNDER 58 -110 for Game. Can Texas stop anyone?


Utah 9/21/2013 7:15PM - (PST) Spread +7 -113 for Game at BYU. Can BYU pass? Can Utah stop the run better than Texas?

i like the boise, FIU, UMASS, north texas, LM (probably).... love the maryland, tennessee, colorado state.... you're playing O/U but i like pitt vs. duke and kent state vs. psu.... i probably go the other way on nd/msu (take msu). maybe just take UNDER though

[Night-Tripper]

and always with you too. You know your football.

What's your thoughts on Tech versus Texas State? Seems like the line should be higher? Tech is much better this year and is playing at home this year? That line has me thinking State? Maybe just the Over?

Thanks, I have my moments.

As far as Tech goes, I am staying away from the Texas State game. For the most part, I avoid betting on Tech unless they're a very small favorite or a dog in a perfect storm. Now, when it comes to totals, I can't pick my nose... but I have a buddy who is pretty damn good at them. (I'll ask for his thoughts tomorrow.)

Getting back to the Tech game... if I were to play it, the way I'd approach it, would be to take tech in the 1st half and for the game. If I hit the first half, I'd let it ride. If I didn't hit the first half, I'd double up on the 2nd half (because I am sure they will hit one or the other.) I'm not sure what Kliff is going to do. While I am not worried about him calling off the dogs (if they do manage to get rolling), I am wondering if he is going to take the opportunity to play both quarterbacks to see who he may want to start when conference play starts in two weeks.

By the way, my opinion of you went up about 75% when you posted that you traipse around the GHA (like I used to), catching high school games on Friday nights.

[Night-Tripper]

Not yet but I'm leaning...

Pats/Bucs under 44
Browns 1st half
Panthers -1
Falcons +2.5
Bears -2.5

I really like Bears, Browns 1st half and Falcons but will know more in a bit.

• Like Bears
• Love Panthers
• Even though I don't do totals, I kinda love Giants/Panthers over
• Gonna go with the fishies over the buzzards
• Gotta love Browns for game even though I placed bet before they made the trade
• Love Rams
• Infatuated with Redskins

[Night-Tripper]

With the trade in Cleveland, might be a good idea to take a serious look at Minnesota. I do not play the NFL very often, and if I do it is only for entertainment purposes, but I would consider this game the NFL play of the week, as the Cleveland players for one are saying fcuk you to management and feeling like management has sold them out. Minnesota also played a decent game last week against the Bears, and they are playing at home.

By the way, see you on the yacht next weekend! Party time!

Yes and no. Vikings were beneficiary of (I think) three gift TD's against the Bears which made them appear better than they are. Offensively, Browns are a mess, but they still have some serious young talent at the receiver position. IMO, the Browns strength is their defense... they are tough. I played them priot to the trade, but I am considering tossing some cash on the moneyline, because I feel an epiphany coming on.

[Mac4Lyfe]

I don't have the stats but Cleveland has been a covering machine in the first half dating back to last year. I'd guess out of the last 12/13 games, they've probably covered at least 9 or 10 in the first half. Their defense is probably the best in the league but the offense is so inept they usually fold in the 2nd half. Richardson was their best offensive player but he didn't exactly fit in with their scheme. Plus they have to get a QB next year. McGahee is a serviceable back that probably has better break away speed than TRich. He should come into this game with fresh legs and an attitude to run hard early.

Bears kept the Vikings in that game more than the Vikings did on their own. This is a good time to fade Ponder. Cleveland defense is no joke. They don't give you anything easy. I don't think they are going to lay down. I think they are going to be fired up with something to prove. The offense just isn't good enough to make enough noise for an entire game. The Browns are good at stopping the run and good cover DBs. Minny's defense is garbage. Browns will look a lot better against the Vikes on offense after playing Baltimore and Miami's defenses. No matter who lines up at QB.

With the trade in Cleveland, might be a good idea to take a serious look at Minnesota. I do not play the NFL very often, and if I do it is only for entertainment purposes, but I would consider this game the NFL play of the week, as the Cleveland players for one are saying fcuk you to management and feeling like management has sold them out. Minnesota also played a decent game last week against the Bears, and they are playing at home.

By the way, see you on the yacht next weekend! Party time!

[Night-Tripper]

I don't have the stats but Cleveland has been a covering machine in the first half dating back to last year. I'd guess out of the last 12/13 games, they've probably covered at least 9 or 10 in the first half. Their defense is probably the best in the league but the offense is so inept they usually fold in the 2nd half. Richardson was their best offensive player but he didn't exactly fit in with their scheme. Plus they have to get a QB next year. McGahee is a serviceable back that probably has better break away speed than TRich. He should come into this game with fresh legs and an attitude to run hard early.

Bears kept the Vikings in that game more than the Vikings did on their own. This is a good time to fade Ponder. Cleveland defense is no joke. They don't give you anything easy. I don't think they are going to lay down. I think they are going to be fired up with something to prove. The offense just isn't good enough to make enough noise for an entire game. The Browns are good at stopping the run and good cover DBs. Minny's defense is garbage. Browns will look a lot better against the Vikes on offense after playing Baltimore and Miami's defenses. No matter who lines up at QB.

[Mac4Lyfe]

We grew up on football. My father played in the NFL and was a CPA that did many of the Browns, Indians and Cavs taxes when I was growing up. Players use to come in and out of our house all the time during tax season back in the day. Most of my family played CFB and a couple still coach. My wife's side is even more football centric. Her dad and 3 other uncles all played NFL, him and another brother are in the Texas Hall of fame, he went on to coach many teams that went to state, 380+ last count players that received D1 scholarships and I think 72 players in the NFL. 2 of her cousins are in the NFL hall of fame and a few cousins still coming up in HS and college. Every boy in their family are football/track studs. Crazy genes. One of them was the number 1 HS athlete for most of last year. She's used to HS on Friday, CFB on Saturday and NFL on Sunday. So it's all good.

Thanks, I have my moments.

By the way, my opinion of you went up about 75% when you posted that you traipse around the GHA (like I used to), catching high school games on Friday nights.

[Night-Tripper]

We grew up on football. My father played in the NFL and was a CPA that did many of the Browns, Indians and Cavs taxes when I was growing up. Players use to come in and out of our house all the time during tax season back in the day. Most of my family played CFB and a couple still coach. My wife's side is even more football centric. Her dad and 3 other uncles all played NFL, him and another brother are in the Texas Hall of fame, he went on to coach many teams that went to state, 380+ last count players that received D1 scholarships and I think 72 players in the NFL. 2 of her cousins are in the NFL hall of fame and a few cousins still coming up in HS and college. Every boy in their family are football/track studs. Crazy genes. One of them was the number 1 HS athlete for most of last year. She's used to HS on Friday, CFB on Saturday and NFL on Sunday. So it's all good.

Pretty damn good.

I was too short, too white and too slow to amount to anything athletically. My best friend (who does the totals) oughta be in the Texas/SMU Hall of Shame, He was an integral piece of the payola for playola scandal that got SMEW the Death Penalty. He used to joke that he took a pay cut when the Bears drafted him.

[Mac4Lyfe]

One of my wifes cousins played at SMU during that same time.

Pretty damn good.

I was too short, too white and too slow to amount to anything athletically. My best friend (who does the totals) oughta be in the Texas/SMU Hall of Shame, He was an integral piece of the payola for playola scandal that got SMEW the Death Penalty. He used to joke that he took a pay cut when the Bears drafted him.

[Night-Tripper]

One of my wifes cousins played at SMU during that same time.

See if they remember PH.

You can jog their memory (if need be) by reminding them that he was the guy who beat the crap out of Kyle Whittingham and got tossed from the infamous Holiday Bowl.

[Fred The Hammer]

I would recommend you guys take a look at these NFL player props. I'm now 7-2....the lines are super soft in alot of cases. Last night had Jamal Charles Over 32.5 yds receiving and he beat that in the 1st half with Capt. Checkdown at QB. I think Alex Smith must get fined if he ever throws the ball more than 15 yds downfield.

[Fred The Hammer]

Mac,

Do you have any opinion on San Jose St @ Minnesota? Minny is 3-0 but they're pretty weak imo. They struggled for most of the day last week to beat W. Illinois. I saw their opener w/UNLV and the Rebels moved the ball up-n-down the field but had a pick-6, blocked fg, and kickoff return for TDs against them if I'm not mistaken. Gophers coach Jerry Kill keeled over again last week so not sure what his status is? He pulled that a few years ago and I thought I just saw someone die of a massive coronary. Kids don't need to see that shit.....they need to make him give it up. San Jose is a pretty decent program....8-1 SU last 9. I can't see MLs or totals at work for some reason on here but I like the SJ ML.

[coldstreak]

Colorado State +39.5 looks so good it's scary.

-Have sources inside the Alabama program. Deion Belue (#1 cb toe) is out, Jarrick Williams is out (starter at STAR in nickel and dime; eye hemorrhage), Nick Perry (3rd safety; torn labrum) is out.
-For sure 1, possibly 2 true freshmen will see serious PT at corner possibly making them vulnerable to a big play or two.
-It is supposed to be a downpour in Tuscaloosa on Saturday.
-In these type games, Saban grabs a 4 TD lead, puts in 2nd/3rd strings and just runs it up the gut the rest of the game. Alabama will not attempt a single pass in the 4th quarter of this game.
-Alabama is 1-5 ATS at home as 30 plus pt favs against OCC foes the past 2 years. Saban simply, does not run it up.
-Saban is playing his old buddy and former OC, Jim McElwain.

That said, Alabama is talented and deep enough to "accidentally" beat the Rams by 50. But CSU +39.5 looks so good, I'm scared it could be too good to be true.