big problem withe spanish bj game in sbr casino

**BigDaddy** · 10-31-11, 03:55 PM

no way possible to not hit 2 like cards.

**Kaabee** · 10-31-11, 03:57 PM

thanks bigdaddy for confirming

**BigDaddy** · 10-31-11, 04:01 PM

30 more

17:02:25
Player Hand 23 2♣ 4♠ 9♦ 8♥ Hit, Hit, Bust
Dealer Hand 17 Q♣ 7♠
1.00 -1.00
17:02:13
Player Hand 13 3♠ J♣
Dealer Hand 21 K♠ A♦ BlackJack
1.00 -1.00
17:01:56
Player Hand 18 4♥ A♥ 3♥ Hit, Stand
Dealer Hand 19 2♥ 7♦ Q♣ Hit, Stand
1.00 -1.00
17:00:15
Player Hand 18 6♦ A♦ A♠ J♣ Double, Stand
Dealer Hand 20 5♥ 6♥ 9♠ Hit, Stand
4.00 -4.00
17:00:07
Player Hand 23 2♣ 3♥ 8♥ J♠ Hit, Hit, Bust
Dealer Hand 14 J♣ 4♦
1.00 -1.00
17:00:03
Player Hand 22 J♣ 2♥ Q♠ Hit, Bust
Dealer Hand 13 J♦ 3♠
1.00 -1.00
16:59:58
Player Hand 20 Q♦ Q♣ Stand
Dealer Hand 18 3♣ A♠ 4♦ Hit, Stand
1.00 1.00
16:59:37
Player Hand 20 9♥ A♥ Stand
Dealer Hand 19 K♣ 9♦ Stand
1.00 1.00
16:59:30
Player Hand 20 7♠ 8♠ 5♣ Hit, Stand
Dealer Hand 26 8♣ 8♥ K♠ Hit, Bust
1.00 1.00
16:59:22
Player Hand 26 5♣ 7♣ A♣ 3♥ Q♣ Hit, Hit, Hit, Bust
Dealer Hand 19 A♦ 8♣
1.00 -1.00
16:59:15
Player Hand 20 6♦ 3♣ A♦ Hit, Stand
Dealer Hand 17 K♦ 7♦ Stand
1.00 1.00
16:59:06
Player Hand 17 2♦ 5♥ 6♣ 4♦ Hit, Hit, Stand
Dealer Hand 20 6♥ K♦ 4♣ Hit, Stand
1.00 -1.00
16:58:58
Player Hand 16 6♦ Q♠ Stand
Dealer Hand 23 J♦ 3♠ Q♦ Hit, Bust
1.00 1.00
16:58:47
Player Hand 17 Q♦ 6♥ A♦ Hit, Stand
Dealer Hand 18 4♥ J♠ 4♦ Hit, Stand
1.00 -1.00
16:58:42
Player Hand 20 J♣ J♦ Stand
Dealer Hand 20 9♠ 6♣ 5♠ Hit, Stand
1.00 .00
16:58:37
Player Hand 20 9♣ A♠ Stand
Dealer Hand 23 4♥ 3♠ 5♠ 2♥ 9♠ Hit, Hit, Hit, Bust
1.00 1.00
16:58:23
Player Hand 26 3♦ Q♦ 3♠ K♦ Hit, Hit, Bust
Dealer Hand 13 6♠ 7♠
1.00 -1.00
16:58:15
Player Hand 17 2♣ K♠ 5♥ Hit, Stand
Dealer Hand 20 2♦ A♠ 3♠ 4♠ Hit, Hit, Stand
1.00 -1.00
16:58:02
Player Hand 23 5♣ 8♣ J♣ Hit, Bust
Dealer Hand 13 K♣ 3♣
1.00 -1.00
16:57:57
Player Hand 20 7♦ 2♠ A♣ Hit, Stand
Dealer Hand 18 9♦ 9♠ Stand
1.00 1.00
16:57:47
Player Hand 21 4♣ J♠ 7♣ Hit
Dealer Hand 26 6♦ 2♦ 2♣ 6♠ K♥ Hit, Hit, Hit, Bust
1.00 1.00
16:57:41
Player Hand 23 5♥ 7♥ 3♥ 8♣ Hit, Hit, Bust
Dealer Hand 13 3♦ K♣
1.00 -1.00
16:57:30
Player Hand 20 3♦ 3♥ A♦ 3♣ Hit, Hit, Stand
Dealer Hand 20 K♥ Q♣ Stand
1.00 .00
16:57:27
Player Hand 9 7♠ 2♣
Dealer Hand 21 K♥ A♥ BlackJack
1.00 -1.00
16:57:19
Player Hand 20 9♣ A♣ Stand
Dealer Hand 21 7♥ 5♦ A♦ 8♣ Hit, Hit, Stand
1.00 -1.00
16:56:57
Player Hand 12 7♥ A♦ 4♥ Double, Stand
Dealer Hand 20 A♣ 6♥ 5♥ 8♣ Hit, Hit, Stand
2.00 -2.00
16:56:53
Player Hand 22 5♣ 8♦ 9♥ Hit, Bust
Dealer Hand 19 Q♠ 9♦
1.00 -1.00
16:56:51
Player Hand 9 3♥ 6♥
Dealer Hand 21 Q♠ A♠ BlackJack
1.00 -1.00
16:56:43
Player Hand 17 7♣ Q♥ Stand
Dealer Hand 17 5♦ 9♠ 3♠ Hit, Stand
1.00 .00
16:56:29
Player Hand 13 Q♥ 2♦ A♦ Hit, Stand
Dealer Hand 25 Q♣ 6♦ 9♥ Hit, Bust
1.00 1.00
Displaying last 30 games you played.

**BigDaddy** · 10-31-11, 04:02 PM

Originally posted by Kaabee

thanks bigdaddy for confirming

i just hope i get a refund from this rigged game

down about 22 points

**BigDaddy** · 10-31-11, 04:07 PM

30 more

17:08:04
Player Hand 23 8♥ 5♥ J♥ Hit, Bust
Dealer Hand 19 9♠ K♣
1.00 -1.00
17:07:50
Player Hand 20 4♦ 2♥ 3♥ A♦ Hit, Hit, Stand
Dealer Hand 19 4♠ K♠ 5♣ Hit, Stand
1.00 1.00
17:07:35
Player Hand 17 6♦ K♠ A♥ Hit, Stand
Dealer Hand 20 J♦ Q♠ Stand
1.00 -1.00
17:07:26
Player Hand 21 K♠ 2♦ 3♣ 6♦ Hit, Hit
Dealer Hand 17 2♠ 7♣ 8♥ Hit, Stand
1.00 1.00
17:07:22
Player Hand 17 7♥ J♦ Stand
Dealer Hand 20 6♣ 5♠ A♦ A♥ 7♣ Hit, Hit, Hit, Stand
1.00 -1.00
17:07:08
Player Hand 1 19 9♣ J♦ Stand 1.00 1.00
Player Hand 2 19 9♠ J♥ Split, Stand 1.00 1.00
Dealer Hand 22 K♣ 6♦ 6♠ Hit, Bust
2.00 2.00
17:07:02
Player Hand 20 J♣ K♦ Stand
Dealer Hand 24 9♣ 5♥ K♣ Hit, Bust
1.00 1.00
17:06:46
Player Hand 13 7♠ 3♥ 3♦ Double, Stand
Dealer Hand 22 4♣ 2♦ 6♦ K♦ Hit, Hit, Bust
2.00 2.00
17:06:30
Player Hand 20 J♠ J♦ Stand
Dealer Hand 19 Q♣ 9♦ Stand
1.00 1.00
17:06:25
Player Hand 18 5♦ 8♠ 5♥ Hit, Stand
Dealer Hand 18 7♠ A♥ Stand
1.00 .00
17:06:15
Player Hand 17 J♥ 7♣ Stand
Dealer Hand 19 2♣ 2♠ 6♣ 3♣ 2♥ 4♦ Hit, Hit, Hit, Hit, Stand
1.00 -1.00
17:06:13
Player Hand 21 A♣ J♠ BlackJack
Dealer Hand 13 Q♣ 3♣ Stand
1.00 1.50
17:06:03
Player Hand 19 9♥ K♦ Stand
Dealer Hand 19 5♠ 6♥ A♥ 7♠ Hit, Hit, Stand
1.00 .00
17:05:54
Player Hand 23 4♥ 2♣ A♣ 6♠ K♠ Hit, Hit, Hit, Bust
Dealer Hand 13 6♣ 7♠
1.00 -1.00
17:05:48
Player Hand 20 4♠ 8♣ 8♦ Hit, Stand
Dealer Hand 25 J♣ 3♥ 2♦ K♥ Hit, Hit, Bust
1.00 1.00
17:05:36
Player Hand 15 9♣ 6♥ Stand
Dealer Hand 23 6♣ 5♣ 5♠ 7♣ Hit, Hit, Bust
1.00 1.00
17:05:26
Player Hand 20 J♦ J♥ Stand
Dealer Hand 24 K♥ 5♦ 9♣ Hit, Bust
1.00 1.00
17:05:05
Player Hand 21 A♠ Q♠ BlackJack
Dealer Hand 17 7♠ J♥ Stand
1.00 1.50
17:04:57
Player Hand 19 9♠ Q♠ Stand
Dealer Hand 24 K♦ 2♦ 2♥ Q♥ Hit, Hit, Bust
1.00 1.00
17:04:50
Player Hand 22 3♠ A♥ 8♦ J♠ Hit, Hit, Bust
Dealer Hand 20 Q♣ Q♥
1.00 -1.00
17:04:39
Player Hand 13 8♥ 5♠ Stand
Dealer Hand 19 8♠ 6♥ 2♣ 3♣ Hit, Hit, Stand
1.00 -1.00
17:04:31
Player Hand 21 2♥ A♠ 8♦ Hit
Dealer Hand 19 8♥ A♦ Stand
1.00 1.00
17:04:20
Player Hand 16 4♠ Q♣ 2♥ Hit, Stand
Dealer Hand 17 5♠ 2♣ 6♦ A♦ 3♥ Hit, Hit, Hit, Stand
1.00 -1.00
17:04:15
Player Hand 18 J♦ 8♦ Stand
Dealer Hand 20 9♠ 7♠ 4♣ Hit, Stand
1.00 -1.00
17:04:06
Player Hand 18 7♥ 2♠ 9♦ Hit, Stand
Dealer Hand 23 3♣ 3♦ 7♣ Q♣ Hit, Hit, Bust
1.00 1.00
17:04:04
Player Hand 8 6♣ 2♠
Dealer Hand 21 K♠ A♦ BlackJack
1.00 -1.00
17:03:56
Player Hand 14 4♣ J♥ Stand
Dealer Hand 17 Q♥ 5♥ 2♠ Hit, Stand
1.00 -1.00
17:03:52
Player Hand 18 8♠ J♥ Stand
Dealer Hand 20 Q♠ Q♦ Stand
1.00 -1.00
17:03:43
Player Hand 20 9♥ A♣ Stand
Dealer Hand 25 3♦ 5♦ 4♣ 3♠ K♦ Hit, Hit, Hit, Bust
1.00 1.00
17:03:37
Player Hand 20 3♣ 8♦ 9♣ Double, Stand
Dealer Hand 17 2♣ Q♦ 5♠ Hit, Stand
2.00 2.00
Displaying last 30 games you played.

**BigDaddy** · 10-31-11, 04:09 PM

ok i have seen enough about 126 hands played give or take a few

going to go play 6 deck regular BJ and see how fast i get a double card

17:09:31
Player Hand 21 5♦ 3♦ 4♠ 9♥ Hit, Hit
Dealer Hand 19 5♠ 8♦ 6♠ Hit, Stand
1.00 1.00
17:09:21
Player Hand 17 8♠ 9♠ Stand
Dealer Hand 18 6♠ 9♦ 3♣ Hit, Stand
1.00 -1.00
17:09:09
Player Hand 25 4♠ 2♥ K♦ 9♥ Hit, Hit, Bust
Dealer Hand 13 6♣ 7♣
1.00 -1.00
17:09:01
Player Hand 23 4♥ 2♣ 7♠ K♠ Hit, Hit, Bust
Dealer Hand 20 J♠ Q♠
1.00 -1.00
17:08:53
Player Hand 26 7♠ 2♦ 4♥ 3♠ J♦ Hit, Hit, Hit, Bust
Dealer Hand 19 Q♦ 9♣
1.00 -1.00
17:08:46
Player Hand 17 J♥ 4♣ 3♣ Hit, Stand
Dealer Hand 19 A♣ 8♥ Stand
1.00 -1.00

**BigDaddy** · 10-31-11, 04:11 PM

LOL

4 hands into regular 6 deck blackjack

we have a winner

2 eight of spades

17:11:46
Player Hand 20 9♠ A♣ Stand
Dealer Hand 22 5♦ A♠ 8♠ 8♠ Hit, Hit, Bust
1.00 1.00
17:11:41
Player Hand 18 6♠ 3♦ 9♥ Hit, Stand
Dealer Hand 20 Q♥ J♠ Stand
1.00 -1.00
17:11:32
Player Hand 18 2♦ J♦ 6♦ Hit, Stand
Dealer Hand 22 8♥ 7♠ 7♥ Hit, Bust
1.00 1.00
17:11:14
Player Hand 19 T♥ 4♠ 5♦ Hit, Stand
Dealer Hand 20 A♥ A♣ 8♦ Hit, Stand
1.00 -1.00

**BigDaddy** · 10-31-11, 04:12 PM

SBR needs to look deeper into this

the spanish game can not be correct.

i lost 18.5 points doing this test

thank you

**dfberger23** · 10-31-11, 04:42 PM

epic burial

**ebbearsfb1** · 10-31-11, 06:57 PM

Epic fail.. well done sbr... crooked as can be

**Kaabee** · 10-31-11, 11:24 PM

currently trying to figure out the effect on the house edge. i'm gonna ask the wizard.

**ebbearsfb1** · 11-01-11, 08:22 AM

Make sure this stays bumped... you want traffic sbr here ya go

**BigDaddy** · 11-01-11, 12:44 PM

Originally posted by ebbearsfb1

Make sure this stays bumped... you want traffic sbr here ya go

you could bump it every day it isn't going to do anything

they have 3 people viewing this forum.

it was moved for a reason

**Dax** · 11-01-11, 01:29 PM

The reason it was moved is simple, this is a casino related topic.

We have nothing to hide with this, we already informed you that the game was working properly and that there were no issues.

I'm still looking in to this a bit more, don't think that' I'm just letting this go by... but for the time being all I can say is that the game is fine and that there is no problem with it.

I'll keep you posted if I do find anything.

**ebbearsfb1** · 11-01-11, 01:50 PM

So now topics just get moved? They don't get linked between both (that's new) usually they are linked between the 2 unless something fishy is going on (which it is)... come on dax you might be able to get that over on some people... casino has 20 views a day player talks has 20 views a min.... big daddy plays 4 hand on 6 deck bj gets 2 8 of spades... plays over 100 hands of spanish bj gets 0... bs...

**Optional** · 11-01-11, 02:12 PM

Originally posted by Dax

The reason it was moved is simple, this is a casino related topic.

We have nothing to hide with this, we already informed you that the game was working properly and that there were no issues.

I'm still looking in to this a bit more, don't think that' I'm just letting this go by... but for the time being all I can say is that the game is fine and that there is no problem with it.

I'll keep you posted if I do find anything.

Sounds just like John insisting the parlay odds were correct a few weeks back. Despite the same sort of incontrovertible evidence something is wrong.

It's a fun game to piss people off by standing next to them in the rain and keep insisting it's sunny out. Funny policy for SBR though.

**Dax** · 11-01-11, 02:31 PM

Originally posted by ebbearsfb1

So now topics just get moved? They don't get linked between both (that's new) usually they are linked between the 2 unless something fishy is going on (which it is)... come on dax you might be able to get that over on some people... casino has 20 views a day player talks has 20 views a min.... big daddy plays 4 hand on 6 deck bj gets 2 8 of spades... plays over 100 hands of spanish bj gets 0... bs...

You know what you are saying doesn't have any validity, only when the topic has relation to both threads is when it's linked, in this case the thread is strictly a casino thread which is why it was moved.

And if I thought that this was an thing that I would need to hide I wouldn't be checking in with you guys.

I've been playing the Spanish black jack game and yeah didn't get two of the same cards in the 100 hands I played, BUT, I also played the regular multi 6 deck black jack game and didn't get two of the same cards. (I only played single hands on both to keep it equal since you can only play one hand in the Spanish Black Jack.)

Both games are working properly, but if you feel that the game is not then I'd advise to simple not play it anymore.

You all know I'm always here to help each and everyone of you guys, so I'm a bit shocked that you think I'm trying to hide something.

Dax.

**ebbearsfb1** · 11-01-11, 03:05 PM

Your so full of it.... so what would qualify this to be linked to both then? If it was orginnally in pt... threads never get moved, just linked.... how does lb thread about the chiefs or stevek about hockey ? Or all the threads bull and priskilla make about a game? Those stay cause they generate traffic... yet this is a sbr casino problem and it gets moved into the quite zone of sbr... sbr doesn't like being called out on something... come on dax were all smarter than that...

**Dax** · 11-01-11, 03:35 PM

It's linked...

Still think we're hiding anything?

**Holtgetsback** · 11-01-11, 03:44 PM

Clearly the software is incorrect.

Dax couldn't careless, which I don't blame him

He's a moderator on a gambling forum

**Monitor-Tan** · 11-01-11, 03:48 PM

I think the big thing here is,people who has played this game including myself would have been cheated out of their points if indeed what people are saying is true.. But I still feel that there hasn't been enough runs to make their claims valid.. All it really takes is a couple hour of simulation from SBR to disprove this claim.. All it needs is just once for same suited card to show.. can't be that hard..

**Louisvillekid1** · 11-01-11, 03:59 PM

wow,

Well done on the testing daddy...

**ebbearsfb1** · 11-01-11, 04:26 PM

it should be linked...

clearly a software problem lets get it together sbr

**Kaabee** · 11-01-11, 05:19 PM

we have three players and 500 hands or so. no matches yet. odds of that are astronomical.

**ttwarrior1** · 11-01-11, 05:29 PM

lmao i just played one hand and on 1st hand, got 2 of the same cards, so your wrong dude, fail

**ProfaneReality** · 11-01-11, 05:31 PM

Remeber when SBR said they were going to have their casino audited by a 3rd party ?

Wonder why they changed their mind...

**Kaabee** · 11-01-11, 05:50 PM

let's see you try to say it wasn't single deck now.

assuming 6 cards dealt per hand average, the odds of not seeing a match in 500 hands is 1 in 515,960,771,534,921,784
5 card average is still 1 in 140,249,209,952,941

you know what's funny i still don't know for sure if this helps or hurts the player but at least effing admit it.

**jjgold** · 11-01-11, 05:59 PM

Everything ok

Business as usual

**Kaabee** · 11-01-11, 07:31 PM

got some big news on this.

just tried this out at heritage and the greek who have the exact same dgs software and the same thing happened. i even hit every hand until i busted to maximize card usage.

this is clearly a dgs issue.

don't know of other sites where you can do a demo mode. anyone know?

**Kaabee** · 11-02-11, 10:40 AM

i would stay out of all dgs casinos. proven flawed game and no one cares.

**ebbearsfb1** · 11-02-11, 12:20 PM

I hear ya kaabee.. as long as they are making money they don't care

**hornsrgrt** · 11-02-11, 12:41 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

SHARI??????????????????????????????????? ?

Where the fuk are you>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

GET THIS OFF NOW

This will fuk everything up

what is the meaning of this post? why would you post this?

**larsm** · 11-02-11, 02:01 PM

I found this issue several months ago but I stayed quiet about it because it could favor the player, at least in theory. Then I realized they shuffle the deck on every deal which makes the player advantage minimal. Still, that kept me motivated to play... until now that you guys are complaining about it and they will probably have to change it.

**larsm** · 11-02-11, 02:08 PM

Originally posted by BigDaddy

wow

that is bad if true

single deck spanish BJ

lol

Exactly, that's what I noticed and that was the reason I liked to play the game, it made me feel I had some advantage even if it was illusory because they reshuffle on every deal it seems (and I didn't make any money on it). At some point I even thought it was intentional, now they're probably gonna change it to make you guys happy... thanks guys!
Heck it doesn't matter I still have a few tricks under my belt and I can always play somewhere else.

**Kaabee** · 11-02-11, 02:38 PM

Originally posted by larsm

I found this issue several months ago but I stayed quiet about it because it could favor the player, at least in theory. Then I realized they shuffle the deck on every deal which makes the player advantage minimal. Still, that kept me motivated to play... until now that you guys are complaining about it and they will probably have to change it.

i'm not sure of the effect on the house edge. i asked the wizard of odds guy and i asked a couple of places if someone could run a sim. no response yet.