UFC 207: Nunes vs Rousey (December 30, 2016)

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  • JIBBBY
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 12-10-09
    • 83686

    #666
    ^^^You guys are silly making excuses for why Rousey got lit up... Nunes lit up Miesha Tate the same way... Nunes has the boxing and hits hard, she's hard to grab and take down...Rousey never had a chance standing in this fight.. Her only chance was to ground Nunes which she couldn't.. Ref saved Rousey from another brutal knock out by stopping that fight when he did...

    That outcome was certainly not what Dana White wanted or the UFC owners... Ronda is a HUGE draw and her stock just plummeted...
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    • Snowball
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      • 11-15-09
      • 30058

      #667
      Liquid Nuke I don't totally disagree with the call, I'm just saying that
      if a different referee let it go to the mat then the fight could have
      flipped if she got her bearings.

      Imagine if it went to the floor, then Ronda guarded against the head shots
      and turned over on her knees.
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      • LiquidNuke
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        • 12-29-16
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        #668
        Very few women throw straight punches from range with any degree of power. Nune's does, and they're fast, accurate and she catches opponents right at the exact end of them, full extension. Basically, in laymen terms, she punches more like a man than any female MMA fighter I can think of. She has that Tommy Hearns build, that lankiness that produces rattling power.
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        • LiquidNuke
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          • 12-29-16
          • 19

          #669
          Originally posted by Snowball
          Liquid Nuke I don't totally disagree with the call, I'm just saying that
          if a different referee let it go to the mat then the fight could have
          flipped if she got her bearings.

          Imagine if it went to the floor, then Ronda guarded against the head shots
          and turned over on her knees.
          Ah ok, I hear you. I'm just rattling anyway.
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          • firekillex
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 09-18-13
            • 6420

            #670
            Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
            Agreed. Wonder what the number will be for him against Mr. Tate
            I think jimmy should be the favourite anything under -140 I'm going large on him, I think he's gonna nullify caraways takedowns and starch him on the feet
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            • firekillex
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              • 09-18-13
              • 6420

              #671
              Originally posted by bjpenn85
              Magny didnt really damage hendricks that much, the most significant thing that happened was the takedown. I dont know if elbowing someone for 5 seconds win you a round. Fight sucked overall, really bad fight.
              Huh?? Magny was landing multiple big kicks, had 2 triangles and was landing huge elbows from bottom
              I'd say Hendricks didn't land 1 clean shot the entire fight almost he was only trying to wrestle and did absolutely nothing when he got ontop imo
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              • Sanity Check
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 03-30-13
                • 10962

                #672
                Originally posted by Plaza23
                Rousey looked like some amateur bum off the street. Didn't even fight back. Took punch after punch to the face.

                $3mils for 48 seconds of work?

                Rousey fixed that fight. Took a dive. Nobody with 12 months to prepare for a fight looks that bad unless they are only there for the payday and taking a dive.

                I bet Nunes and Dana White were in on it. Nunes destroys her and now she can be marketed as the next great champ. Ronda walks away with $$$$ knowing she was going to retire anyway and probably start a family.

                UFC is becoming more fixed than boxing. The only fights that are legit are the under card fighters trying to get to the top spots.

                I say all this having not bet a dime on this card. Glad I didn't.

                Ronda did well when her weight division was shallow. A lot of the women Ronda fought weren't training properly. They were very one dimensional. Ronda had advantages coming from an olympic background and knowing how to train somewhat properly, that made her look better than she is when she was fighting subpar competition.

                Holly Holm came along and completely outclassed Ronda standing. Holly Holm exposed Ronda.

                Rather than admitting her boxing wasn't as good as she thought it was, Ronda blamed having to do a lot of interviews and media for her loss.

                Thus Ronda did zero media leading up to her fight with Amanda Nunes. She blamed the media, not her lack of boxing skill for her loss.

                Ronda came back and Amanda Nunes outclassed Ronda again.

                I don't think it was a fix. More an example of what happens when people live in denial, refuse to admit facts and make the same mistakes.
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                • Kermit
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                  • 09-27-10
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                  #673
                  Best move of the night.

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                  • JIBBBY
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                    • 12-10-09
                    • 83686

                    #674
                    Originally posted by firekillex
                    Huh?? Magny was landing multiple big kicks, had 2 triangles and was landing huge elbows from bottom
                    I'd say Hendricks didn't land 1 clean shot the entire fight almost he was only trying to wrestle and did absolutely nothing when he got ontop imo
                    I was on Magny and I still thought Hendricks got robbed.. Rounds 1 and 2 were his Fire... He was pounding on Magny on the ground, walking him down all fight, and was in top position in both rounds 1 and 2..

                    Those triangles at the end of the rounds were never threatening and all show...

                    I'm still a little pissed about the Dirty Bird NC... I really thought Dirty Bird was a lock in that fight over fake Cowboy.. If he didn't land those knees he would have won that fight anyways..
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                    • Rich Benjamins
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 12-15-15
                      • 831

                      #675
                      Originally posted by Sanity Check
                      Ronda did well when her weight division was shallow. A lot of the women Ronda fought weren't training properly. They were very one dimensional. Ronda had advantages coming from an olympic background and knowing how to train somewhat properly, that made her look better than she is when she was fighting subpar competition.



                      Holly Holm came along and completely outclassed Ronda standing. Holly Holm exposed Ronda.

                      Rather than admitting her boxing wasn't as good as she thought it was, Ronda blamed having to do a lot of interviews and media for her loss.

                      Thus Ronda did zero media leading up to her fight with Amanda Nunes. She blamed the media, not her lack of boxing skill for her loss.

                      Ronda came back and Amanda Nunes outclassed Ronda again.

                      I don't think it was a fix. More an example of what happens when people live in denial, refuse to admit facts and make the same mistakes.
                      Yep, that's right. I think she also avoided the media because she didn't want to get clowned on social media after the fight. I didn't see a single interview where she said that she was going to beat Nunes' ass, or how she was going to do it. I saw one where she said she wanted to spread cookie body wash over herself. She just went through the motions of the whole thing - easy $3 million. God I wish I had bet against her, it all seems so obvious now. It's easy to get persuaded by media and other MMA bettors betting up Ronda's line or saying how much they're betting on Ronda to make you think there's something you don't know. In reality, there is rarely any "hidden information" with MMA. It's all there for you to see and make your betting decision.
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                      • JIBBBY
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 12-10-09
                        • 83686

                        #676
                        3 Mil for getting punched in the face 10 times in 48 seconds while not getting knocked out cold.. Sounds like a win to me ...
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                        • Hugo de Naranja
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                          • 04-14-16
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                          #677
                          Originally posted by firekillex
                          Huh?? Magny was landing multiple big kicks, had 2 triangles and was landing huge elbows from bottom
                          I'd say Hendricks didn't land 1 clean shot the entire fight almost he was only trying to wrestle and did absolutely nothing when he got ontop imo
                          For me, damage is more important than control. That said, not much happened in the fight but I felt Magny had the bigger moments.
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                          • firekillex
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                            • 09-18-13
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                            #678
                            Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                            For me, damage is more important than control. That said, not much happened in the fight but I felt Magny had the bigger moments.
                            Agreed round 1 was the closest round I gave the slight edge to magny for damage , round 2 Hendricks just smothered him and won then round 3 i though magny pretty clearly won= 29-28 a robbery imo is somebody who wins all 3 rounds and doesn't get the decision in a close fight like this there's no robbery whatsoever.. if Cruz won the decision you could call a robbery that's about it for the main card fights that I seen
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                            • Kermit
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                              • 09-27-10
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                              #679
                              I think even the Sherdog guys all had Neil winning 29-28. It was a close fight.
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                              • Hugo de Naranja
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                                • 04-14-16
                                • 14140

                                #680
                                Originally posted by firekillex
                                Agreed round 1 was the closest round I gave the slight edge to magny for damage , round 2 Hendricks just smothered him and won then round 3 i though magny pretty clearly won= 29-28 a robbery imo is somebody who wins all 3 rounds and doesn't get the decision in a close fight like this there's no robbery whatsoever.. if Cruz won the decision you could call a robbery that's about it for the main card fights that I seen
                                Yeah the term robbery is way overused. Bochniak-Barzola was a robbery, fights like Hendricks-Magny or Saffiedine/DHK are not.
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                                • DwightShrute
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                                  • 01-17-09
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                                  #681
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                                  • DwightShrute
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                                    #682
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                                    • DwightShrute
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                                      • 01-17-09
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                                      #683
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                                      • DwightShrute
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                                        • 01-17-09
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                                        #684
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                                        • DwightShrute
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                                          • 01-17-09
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                                          #685
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                                          • JIBBBY
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                                            • 12-10-09
                                            • 83686

                                            #686
                                            Dwight showing up in the MMA section and representing the memes as usual.. Right on bud!!!

                                            Never seen you posting in this section before... Hope you hang around.
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                                            • Shagdogy
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 06-16-10
                                              • 3564

                                              #687
                                              Originally posted by firekillex
                                              I think jimmy should be the favourite anything under -140 I'm going large on him, I think he's gonna nullify caraways takedowns and starch him on the feet
                                              Any chance Jimmie Rivera is -140 or better? This is a real bad matchup for Carraway IMO. I would hammer Rivera at -140 or better as well.
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                                              • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                • 04-14-16
                                                • 14140

                                                #688
                                                Overall a small loss on this card but basically a wash. Could have been much worse without hedging. Won on Garcia KO, Magny + Decision, Saffiedine + Kim Over, and Full Card Props. Lost on Thatch ITD, Smolka, Lineker, Cruz, Rousey, Straight Parlays, and Multi-Event Parlays. Hit Hedges on Borg Decision, Dillashaw -3.5, Garbrandt Decision (+1455), Nunes KO + R1 to salvage the night. Also cashed DK Double Up again. I'm starting to get a feel for those Double Up Contests so I may start to do a few more units on them in the future. On to Phoenix!
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                                                • steve18
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                                                  • 11-26-09
                                                  • 662

                                                  #689
                                                  Great article on why Rousey should join the WWE if she is done with the UFC:

                                                  Chris Yandek's Interviews with Celebrities from Entertainment, Sports, Politics, Newsmakers, Health, Authors, Legal and Everything Else in Between
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                                                  • GunShard
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                                                    • 03-05-10
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                                                    #690
                                                    Originally posted by Kermit
                                                    Best move of the night.

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                                                    • Sato
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                                                      #691
                                                      Fear the return
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                                                      • GunShard
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                                                        • 03-05-10
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                                                        #692
                                                        Cruz is humble in defeat:
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                                                        • JIBBBY
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                                                          • 12-10-09
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                                                          #693
                                                          HAPPY and HEALTHY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!!!

                                                          Keep it positive, keep it winning and keep it real!!!!


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                                                          • firekillex
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                                                            #694
                                                            Originally posted by Shagdogy
                                                            Any chance Jimmie Rivera is -140 or better? This is a real bad matchup for Carraway IMO. I would hammer Rivera at -140 or better as well.
                                                            Holyyyyyyy Rivera -260.... bookies giving 0 respect to caraway here that sucks was hoping -200 at the most will need to play props
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                                                            • JIBBBY
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 12-10-09
                                                              • 83686

                                                              #695
                                                              Originally posted by firekillex
                                                              Holyyyyyyy Rivera -260.... bookies giving 0 respect to caraway here that sucks was hoping -200 at the most will need to play props
                                                              Odds makers aren't as off anymore coming up with these lines like years ago.. I miss the good ole days especially when I first started playing the props.. Rivera is the call though...
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                                                              • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                                • 04-14-16
                                                                • 14140

                                                                #696
                                                                Originally posted by firekillex
                                                                Holyyyyyyy Rivera -260.... bookies giving 0 respect to caraway here that sucks was hoping -200 at the most will need to play props
                                                                Sharp Kalikas. Value might be on Caraway at these odds. Took the over for a total of 4u in open parlays.
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                                                                • Sanity Check
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                                                                  • 03-30-13
                                                                  • 10962

                                                                  #697
                                                                  Originally posted by Sanity Check


                                                                  Had a winning night.

                                                                  Still down from where I was a few weeks ago though.
                                                                  Still happy to hit Nunes AND Cody.

                                                                  Up a bit more today.

                                                                  Nice to start the year off in the positives.

                                                                  HNY~
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                                                                  • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                                    • 04-14-16
                                                                    • 14140

                                                                    #698
                                                                    Originally posted by Sanity Check
                                                                    Still happy to hit Nunes AND Cody.

                                                                    Up a bit more today.

                                                                    Nice to start the year off in the positives.

                                                                    HNY~
                                                                    Glad to hear it Sanity
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                                                                    • JIBBBY
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                                                                      • 12-10-09
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                                                                      #699
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                                                                      I am rowing down stream with my daily betting and I can't complain..... Have the Packers tonight on the ML for 500 SBR bet points pending still but not feeling good about this game so far.. Might lose it, AR looks like crap with incomplete passes and he's getting rushed so far..

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