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  • HurlSweatPants
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 07-28-15
    • 951

    #2381
    Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
    Yeah I think non-pros have some kind of cap on how many BPs they can give per day.
    Damn. Well I don't think I will be going pro so look forward to getting 2 points a day for the foreseeable future.
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    • firekillex
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 09-18-13
      • 6420

      #2382
      Originally posted by HurlSweatPants
      Damn. Well I don't think I will be going pro so look forward to getting 2 points a day for the foreseeable future.
      literally no reason not to go pro , cost $100 and you will cash out more than a $100 yearly with ease
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      • Hugo de Naranja
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 04-14-16
        • 14140

        #2383
        Originally posted by HurlSweatPants
        Damn. Well I don't think I will be going pro so look forward to getting 2 points a day for the foreseeable future.
        I certainly will. Thanks!
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        • firekillex
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 09-18-13
          • 6420

          #2384
          we gotta be careful doing betpoint bets with non pros ... not even worth being paid 2 points everyday for months

          ill still never understand for the life of me why everybody here wouldnt go pro, not even trying to hate but you literally put $100 and get multiple pro contests and uses , if you just log in daily 12 points by a year you get over 4k points, which is $150 in bitcoin just for signing in daily ??? very EV+ no reason too not take advantage and help the website that you use all the time out in the process... win win situation no???

          i guess maybe if you dont wanna put your name and all info i understand that
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          • eddycash
            SBR MVP
            • 11-06-13
            • 4527

            #2385
            How do you cash out 4k points into bitcoin?
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            • firekillex
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 09-18-13
              • 6420

              #2386
              Originally posted by eddycash
              How do you cash out 4k points into bitcoin?
              12 points a day x 365 = 4380 points
              plus daily contests, BTP , poker contests, 2 days a week trivia for FP , say at worst you get 5k points a year

              go to SBR store bitcoin is fluctuating prices but last i seen it was $100 in bitcoin for 2667 points .... so almost $200 usd bitcoin a year for being pro if you just sign in daily and do a couple free contests....... so +100$ EV without even trying which would pay for next years membership , plus more if you hit big on any contests... and youre supporting the forum, no reason not too imo?

              dont wanna hijack the thread of mma future fights just putting my 2 cents in lol
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              • firekillex
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 09-18-13
                • 6420

                #2387
                whats everybodys thoughts on Stipe vs DC 2 ??
                liking Stipe at that + money not gonna lie, especially after hearing DC just had back surgery
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                • ichiro4thehall
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 12-02-09
                  • 241

                  #2388
                  Originally posted by firekillex
                  whats everybodys thoughts on Stipe vs DC 2 ??
                  liking Stipe at that + money not gonna lie, especially after hearing DC just had back surgery
                  Couldn't agree more, Stipe +130 available in lots of places. I have Stipe being a fav here and believe come fight time the line will be pick'em at best. I'm betting Stipe now to hopefully bet DC on fight night for + money and lock in profit.

                  I hope DC wins. He has the highest fight IQ in UFC imo and it's amazing such a small guy is heavyweight champ. But Father Time has been catching up with a few fighters recently and I always got the impression DC never wanted this fight. He said he'd do it but expected the Lesnar fight to be made, have his final well-earned payday and quit undisputed HW champ.
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                  • strictlypaypal
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 12-05-12
                    • 471

                    #2389
                    Whats everyones thoughts on lee vs rda? To me its crazy rda even took this thing. Thats 3 straight fights vs guys with strong wrestling. I dont see this being any different than cov and usman fight... and lee might be so much better not cutting that extra 15 pounds. Hes way too big for 155
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                    • Hugo de Naranja
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 04-14-16
                      • 14140

                      #2390
                      Originally posted by strictlypaypal
                      Whats everyones thoughts on lee vs rda? To me its crazy rda even took this thing. Thats 3 straight fights vs guys with strong wrestling. I dont see this being any different than cov and usman fight... and lee might be so much better not cutting that extra 15 pounds. Hes way too big for 155
                      I lean Lee
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                      • JerseyRobby
                        SBR MVP
                        • 12-14-11
                        • 1494

                        #2391
                        Lee is even money now which is crazy to me. I just maxed bet that on three books. I don't think RDA can stop Lee's takedowns and he is a monster on the ground. I see this looking a lot like Lee vs. Barboza.
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                        • Hugo de Naranja
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 04-14-16
                          • 14140

                          #2392
                          Originally posted by JerseyRobby
                          Lee is even money now which is crazy to me. I just maxed bet that on three books. I don't think RDA can stop Lee's takedowns and he is a monster on the ground. I see this looking a lot like Lee vs. Barboza.
                          Totally possible. Lee definitely needs to prioritize his offensive wrestling from the opening bell.
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                          • Baraldsson
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 05-18-19
                            • 514

                            #2393
                            Spot on. Lee's striking isn't terrible but he's gotta fight smart.
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                            • Hugo de Naranja
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 04-14-16
                              • 14140

                              #2394
                              Originally posted by Baraldsson
                              Spot on. Lee's striking isn't terrible but he's gotta fight smart.
                              Hopefully he does!
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                              • Baraldsson
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 05-18-19
                                • 514

                                #2395
                                Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                Hopefully he does!
                                Amen to that, brother.

                                Some great potential matchups for Lee at 170 if he can get past RDA.
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                                • jacharron17
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 01-22-19
                                  • 261

                                  #2396
                                  Liking Alexa Grasso at plus money. Also thinking of pulling the trigger on Pedro Munhoz, but haven't yet.
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                                  • Baraldsson
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 05-18-19
                                    • 514

                                    #2397
                                    Any thoughts on Tony Ferguson vs Cowboy?

                                    I see this going like a lot of El Cucuy's fights with him getting hurt/rocked early on before rallying and wearing his opponent down with constant pressure. Cowboy has been known to quit in the past but has looked a lot more determined since his kid arrived.

                                    Early lean is that Ferguson eventually gains the upper hand and gets the sub late on.
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                                    • Hugo de Naranja
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 04-14-16
                                      • 14140

                                      #2398
                                      Originally posted by Baraldsson
                                      Any thoughts on Tony Ferguson vs Cowboy?

                                      I see this going like a lot of El Cucuy's fights with him getting hurt/rocked early on before rallying and wearing his opponent down with constant pressure. Cowboy has been known to quit in the past but has looked a lot more determined since his kid arrived.

                                      Early lean is that Ferguson eventually gains the upper hand and gets the sub late on.
                                      Cowboy typically gets better as the fight goes on too so I'm not sure Ferguson will have that advantage like he usually does. Think Cowboy is live but probably picking Ferg.
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                                      • firekillex
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 09-18-13
                                        • 6420

                                        #2399
                                        Cowboy by TKO or Ferguson TKO/decision are the only outcomes i could really see....
                                        this fight is gonna be a crazy pace with tons of output, gonna be fireworks

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                                        • jacharron17
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 01-22-19
                                          • 261

                                          #2400
                                          Brian Ortega at +150 is a gift from heaven, in my opinion.
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                                          • firekillex
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 09-18-13
                                            • 6420

                                            #2401
                                            Originally posted by jacharron17
                                            Brian Ortega at +150 is a gift from heaven, in my opinion.
                                            3 rounder ?
                                            Ortega gonna get smoked, Zabits only downfall is his cardio imo... Ortega is not going to take him down, he will get picked apart striking as well.... only thing he can really do here is pull a guillotine or some crazy submission where Zabit is a great grappler as well
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                                            • Baraldsson
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 05-18-19
                                              • 514

                                              #2402
                                              Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                              Cowboy typically gets better as the fight goes on too so I'm not sure Ferguson will have that advantage like he usually does...
                                              Fair point, definitely worth considering. I'm banking on the fact Ferg is probably crazy enough to actually die in there before quitting whereas Cowboy has shown in the past he might just cave if the pressure is cranked up enough.

                                              Either way, should be a great fight.
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                                              • firekillex
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 09-18-13
                                                • 6420

                                                #2403
                                                thoughts on Nate Diaz vs Anthony Pettis
                                                ( if it actually happens )
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                                                • Baraldsson
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 05-18-19
                                                  • 514

                                                  #2404
                                                  Originally posted by firekillex
                                                  thoughts on Nate Diaz vs Anthony Pettis
                                                  ( if it actually happens )
                                                  Strong chance it doesn't happen unfortunately but fingers crossed.

                                                  Initial lean Pettis by decision but might just be guilty of recency bias after the Wonderboy fight. Never saw that KO coming in a million years. Pettis showed great heart to stay in it when he was just taking punishment and hardly landing anything himself so he should be full of self-belief now if nothing else.

                                                  Nate's been out an awful long time but if anyone can stroll back in and pick up where he left off it's probably him. Plus this might be like when he came in super motivated vs Michael Johnson and was really just auditioning to get the Conor fight. Probably smells the trilogy fight if Khabib ends up matched with Ferguson again instead of Conor.

                                                  What you thinking, Firekillex?
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                                                  • firekillex
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 09-18-13
                                                    • 6420

                                                    #2405
                                                    Im just hoping it happens hahaha
                                                    but its at 170, Diaz will have a big size advantage and 4 inches reach

                                                    Diaz is a guy who i dont think needs to be super active imo, and Pettis doesnt do super well with pressure fighters that can take a shot , i think this will look like the Holloway fight

                                                    Diaz can get dropped and Kod by head kicks weve seen before( Josh Thompson ) thats his only way to victory i see....


                                                    Diaz straight or Pettis TKO/KO is what ill most likely play IF this happens
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                                                    • bjpenn85
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 02-17-11
                                                      • 5059

                                                      #2406
                                                      Originally posted by firekillex
                                                      Im just hoping it happens hahaha
                                                      but its at 170, Diaz will have a big size advantage and 4 inches reach


                                                      Diaz is a guy who i dont think needs to be super active imo, and Pettis doesnt do super well with pressure fighters that can take a shot , i think this will look like the Holloway fight

                                                      Diaz can get dropped and Kod by head kicks weve seen before( Josh Thompson ) thats his only way to victory i see....


                                                      Diaz straight or Pettis TKO/KO is what ill most likely play IF this happens

                                                      Spot on. What do you think the line will be? Close to evens?
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                                                      • Baraldsson
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 05-18-19
                                                        • 514

                                                        #2407
                                                        Originally posted by firekillex
                                                        Im just hoping it happens hahaha
                                                        but its at 170, Diaz will have a big size advantage and 4 inches reach

                                                        Diaz is a guy who i dont think needs to be super active imo, and Pettis doesnt do super well with pressure fighters that can take a shot , i think this will look like the Holloway fight

                                                        Diaz can get dropped and Kod by head kicks weve seen before( Josh Thompson ) thats his only way to victory i see....


                                                        Diaz straight or Pettis TKO/KO is what ill most likely play IF this happens
                                                        Good insight, thanks. I often listen too much to my gut and end up wishing I'd spent longer researching and trying to anticipate lots of different outcomes. Hadn't factored Diaz's reach or pressure in so you've given me a few things to chew on before putting any money on it.

                                                        Along with Ferg vs Cowboy, this definitely one of the fights I'm most looking forward to.
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                                                        • firekillex
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 09-18-13
                                                          • 6420

                                                          #2408
                                                          Originally posted by bjpenn85
                                                          Spot on. What do you think the line will be? Close to evens?
                                                          with Pettis just getting a big win and Diaz being inactive for almost 3 years.... id say Diaz -130 range max
                                                          ill take anything under -175 pretty large, i just think Pettis wilts under pressure/aggressive fighters, he was on his way to getting finished in that Wonderboy fight before landing that big shot, of course he has great speed and technique but hes not really a KO artist by any means these days

                                                          hoping to see -120/-150 range Diaz with Pettis TKO/KO being at solid + money for a little hedge

                                                          definitely will be fireworks, no doubt..
                                                          Ferguson vs Cowboy is probably my favorite fight of 2019 hands down though thats 2 legit killers and i could see it going either way both guys have solid paths to victory, most likely wont touch that ill just sit and enjoy haha , maybe take Fight Doesnt go to decision but i dont think those odds will be great



                                                          edit :
                                                          just checked the odds and its up now...
                                                          Diaz + 105
                                                          Pettis -125

                                                          aka im about to go big haha , typically would hate putting big bets months before a fight.... and a fight that is like 50/50 at best to even happen but i think Diaz has a lot of fans and people will be betting him i could see him getting into - money quickly. But that stuff is hard to predict, regardless love the line for him and will be taking a shot
                                                          Last edited by firekillex; 05-22-19, 05:40 PM.
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                                                          • firekillex
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 09-18-13
                                                            • 6420

                                                            #2409
                                                            side note:
                                                            Valentina vs Eye is obviously not a a fight where you can bet straight up with Valentina at -1200 or more unless you take a hail mary with Eye .....
                                                            but Fight Doesnt Go To Decision is -120 right now....... Valentina is literally better in every aspect of MMA, Eye is tough and hard to finish but she just isnt in the same realm as the Bullet, should be a finish here in the later rounds IMO .... maybe even take Valentina by RD 3/4/5 finish if you want better odds but thats the only prop up for now and i cant see how Eye lasts the entire fight with that killer
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                                                            • bjpenn85
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 02-17-11
                                                              • 5059

                                                              #2410
                                                              Originally posted by firekillex
                                                              with Pettis just getting a big win and Diaz being inactive for almost 3 years.... id say Diaz -130 range max
                                                              ill take anything under -175 pretty large, i just think Pettis wilts under pressure/aggressive fighters, he was on his way to getting finished in that Wonderboy fight before landing that big shot, of course he has great speed and technique but hes not really a KO artist by any means these days

                                                              hoping to see -120/-150 range Diaz with Pettis TKO/KO being at solid + money for a little hedge

                                                              definitely will be fireworks, no doubt..
                                                              Ferguson vs Cowboy is probably my favorite fight of 2019 hands down though thats 2 legit killers and i could see it going either way both guys have solid paths to victory, most likely wont touch that ill just sit and enjoy haha , maybe take Fight Doesnt go to decision but i dont think those odds will be great



                                                              edit :
                                                              just checked the odds and its up now...
                                                              Diaz + 105
                                                              Pettis -125

                                                              aka im about to go big haha , typically would hate putting big bets months before a fight.... and a fight that is like 50/50 at best to even happen but i think Diaz has a lot of fans and people will be betting him i could see him getting into - money quickly. But that stuff is hard to predict, regardless love the line for him and will be taking a shot
                                                              That was my thought exactly, the line should be -130 for Diaz.

                                                              Cant blame anyone for taking a stab, but the chin, motivation, layoff, all of those other factors that hasnt anything to do with skill, is what is my concern. I will chill to fight time before placing a bet, or just livebet it perhaps.
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                                                              • bjpenn85
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 02-17-11
                                                                • 5059

                                                                #2411
                                                                Originally posted by firekillex
                                                                side note:
                                                                Valentina vs Eye is obviously not a a fight where you can bet straight up with Valentina at -1200 or more unless you take a hail mary with Eye .....
                                                                but Fight Doesnt Go To Decision is -120 right now....... Valentina is literally better in every aspect of MMA, Eye is tough and hard to finish but she just isnt in the same realm as the Bullet, should be a finish here in the later rounds IMO .... maybe even take Valentina by RD 3/4/5 finish if you want better odds but thats the only prop up for now and i cant see how Eye lasts the entire fight with that killer
                                                                I dont agree. Fights do easily go to dec. Jones couldnt finish Smith, Davi Ramos just this weekend couldnt finish a random guy from the regionals despite him being a world champ in BJJ or something. These things happens all the time. Valentina always goes to dec, against killers, i know, but her best chance to get a finish is a submission. Fight might not play out on the ground, then youre banking on a KO which will never happen.

                                                                Maybe there is a little bit of value at -120, but the risk tied to this bet makes in unplayable in my book. I dont like these kind of narrow bets, unless its charles oliveira inside distance...wonder how many times that bet has cashed haha
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                                                                • firekillex
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 09-18-13
                                                                  • 6420

                                                                  #2412
                                                                  Originally posted by bjpenn85
                                                                  I dont agree. Fights do easily go to dec. Jones couldnt finish Smith, Davi Ramos just this weekend couldnt finish a random guy from the regionals despite him being a world champ in BJJ or something. These things happens all the time. Valentina always goes to dec, against killers, i know, but her best chance to get a finish is a submission. Fight might not play out on the ground, then youre banking on a KO which will never happen.

                                                                  Maybe there is a little bit of value at -120, but the risk tied to this bet makes in unplayable in my book. I dont like these kind of narrow bets, unless its charles oliveira inside distance...wonder how many times that bet has cashed haha
                                                                  i could agree , but mens MMA not to sound sexist or anything has a much higher talent level so the skill gaps are much smaller, womans MMA the gap is HUGE like the top 3-5 are solid , after that its a gigantic drop off in skill level.... Jessica Eye is barely winning fights by split decision throwing like 0 output and with no power or footwork... Valentina is imo the most skilled woman on the planet in terms of overall skill level , is super fast, slick ground game and has a bit of power , i think 8/10 times she finishes Jessica Eye in a 5 rounder.... -120 for me is great value especially on a -1200 favorite , of course betting finishes for womans mma is a scary thing haha , hence the -120 price tag
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                                                                  • Hugo de Naranja
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 04-14-16
                                                                    • 14140

                                                                    #2413
                                                                    Would be shocked if Pettis KO'd Diaz. Would give (+300) on Pettis KO/TKO to someone for BPs if anyone wawnts it.
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                                                                    • firekillex
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 09-18-13
                                                                      • 6420

                                                                      #2414
                                                                      Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                                                      Would be shocked if Pettis KO'd Diaz. Would give (+300) on Pettis KO/TKO to someone for BPs if anyone wawnts it.
                                                                      would just be a hedge for a big bet on Diaz
                                                                      definitely wouldnt put anything significant on it , rewatched the Ferguson and Holloway fights... liking Diaz a ton here
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                                                                      • Hugo de Naranja
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 04-14-16
                                                                        • 14140

                                                                        #2415
                                                                        Originally posted by firekillex
                                                                        would just be a hedge for a big bet on Diaz
                                                                        definitely wouldnt put anything significant on it , rewatched the Ferguson and Holloway fights... liking Diaz a ton here
                                                                        Glad to hear it.
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