UFC on FOX 18: Johnson vs. Bader (January 30, 2016)

[JIBBBY]

where is bader +380? line dropped wks ago

Oh my bad.. Forgot that line dropped so much.. I just referenced at what I nailed it down at a few weeks ago..

$150.00

$570.00

Pending

1/30/16 11:00pm UFC Fighting 1001 Ryan Bader +380* <small>vs</small> Anthony Johnson

Current line -

<small>UFC on Fox 18 - Light Heavyweight 5 rounds - Prudential Center - Newark, New Jersey - Fox</small>
Sat 1/30		1001 Ryan Bader		<input id="radiox" value="M1_0" name="radiox" type="radio">+265	<input id="radiox" value="L1_0" name="radiox" type="radio">o1½ -125
9:30PM		1002 Anthony Johnson		<input id="radiox" value="M2_0" name="radiox" type="radio">-325	<input id="radiox" value="L2_0" name="radiox" type="radio">u1½ +105

[getlucky2win]

rumble won dec vs davis and arlovski. i bet the rumble dec +777 cuz i hear bader is elusive these days and is the 205lb dom cruz

[JIBBBY]

rumble won dec vs davis and arlovski. i bet the rumble dec +777 cuz i hear bader is elusive these days and is the 205lb dom cruz

Those were only 3 round fights.. This is a 5 round fight... If Bader loses by decision I'll be shocked.. Hey but GL getlucky..

Rumble has never gone past 3 rounds in his entire MMA career (25 pro fights).. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Anthony-Johnson-17662

[TPowell]

Says alot that Jackson is getting all this hype from being on that ridiculous Dana White show and his price has still dropped

[getlucky2win]

tough to convey sarcasm in online forum. sorry

[JIBBBY]

tough to convey sarcasm in online forum. sorry

I'm all business.. Don't fock around....

[Ultimatemeatball]

rumble won dec vs davis and arlovski. i bet the rumble dec +777 cuz i hear bader is elusive these days and is the 205lb dom cruz

I don't see Rumble having the gas tank to ever go a full 5 rounds.

[TPowell]

I don't see Rumble having the gas tank to ever go a full 5 rounds.

yep same here

[getlucky2win]

yeah after rnd 3 he will prob quit on the stool or collapse frm exhaustion

[JoshKnows46]

baders gonna be out cold in under 2 minutes

[UncleChael]

baders gonna be out cold in under 2 minutes

AJ can't wrestle, he's not a better striker, and he gasses in 2 minutes. Lol.

[JIBBBY]

Prelims predictions MMAmania - Part 1 - (copy and paste) with additions..

Sat 1/30		2201 Randy Brown		<input id="radiox" value="M1_12" name="radiox" type="radio">-160	<input id="radiox" value="L1_12" name="radiox" type="radio">o1½ -115
3:30PM		2202 Matt Dwyer		<input id="radiox" value="M2_12" name="radiox" type="radio">+140	<input id="radiox" value="L2_12" name="radiox" type="radio">u1½ -105

170 lbs.: Randy Brown vs. Matt Dwyer
Randy Brown (6-0)http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Randy-Brown-115641, a product of Dana White’s "Lookin’ for a Fight" program, enjoyed a 4-2 amateur career before joining the professional circuit. Once there’ he’s earned six stoppages in six fights, four of them by knockout.
He will give up two inches of height to Matt Dwyer (8-3).http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Matt-Dwyer-53933
The 6’4" Dwyer entered UFC on a five-fight win streak, one which came to an abrupt end courtesy of Russian destroyer Albert Tumenov. A Superman punch on William Macario gave him his first UFC victory, after which he fell short in a "Fight of the Night"-winning brawl against Alan Jouban.
All eight of his professional wins have come via knockout.
There’s pretty much no footage of Brown, but what I’ve heard is not good. In addition to his lack of pro experience, he’s apparently a terribly inexperienced grappler, and while Dwyer can’t exploit that hole the way a Yan Cabral or Sergio Moraes could, it’s still a notable issue.
Further, for all of his technical deficiencies, Dwyer is ludicrously tough and packs a serious punch. If Brown tries to slug it out, I don’t believe he can overcome the Canadian’s wealth of slugging experience. Dwyer eventually overwhelms him with strikes, perhaps with a couple of takedowns mixed in, after maybe seven or so entertaining minutes.
Prediction: Dwyer via second-round technical knockout

Sat 1/30		2001 Damon Jackson		<input id="radiox" value="M1_10" name="radiox" type="radio">+255	<input id="radiox" value="L1_10" name="radiox" type="radio">o2½ -145
4:30PM		2002 Levan Makashvili		<input id="radiox" value="M2_10" name="radiox" type="radio">-310	<input id="radiox" value="L2_10" name="radiox" type="radio">u2½ +125

145 lbs.: Damon Jackson vs. Levan Makashvili
Damon Jackson (9-1)http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Damon-Jackson-113767 joined UFC as the Legacy FC Featherweight champion, but came up short in his late-notice debut against Yancy Medeiros up at 155 pounds. He returned to Featherweight to face Rony "Jason," who tapped Jackson with a triangle choke, but failed a post-fight drug test for a diuretic.
He has never gone the distance as a professional, submitting seven opponents.
Levan Makashvili (10-2)http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Levan-Makashvili-126881 was originally slated to debut against Nik Lentz before illness felled "The Carny" just before showtime. Instead, he defeated Mark Eddiva in his first Octagon appearance, then lost a split decision to Hacran Dias in a clash of grinders last June.
Georgia’s "Hornet" will give up three inches of height to the 5’11" Jackson.
This is one of those fights that’s going to be either really good or really bad. Ideally, Jackson can threaten enough off of his back to force a proper ground battle. More likely, however, Makashvili embraces the grind, shutting Jackson down against the fence and on the mat.
Joy.
Jackson is definitely a finishing threat, but it’s hard to imagine Makashvili leaving the openings "The Leech" would need. Makashvili wins this with pressure and top control.
Prediction: Makashvili via unanimous decision

Sat 1/30		2101 Felipe Olivieri		<input id="radiox" value="M1_11" name="radiox" type="radio">+155	<input id="radiox" value="L1_11" name="radiox" type="radio">o1½ -155
4:00PM		2102 Tony Martin		<input id="radiox" value="M2_11" name="radiox" type="radio">-175	<input id="radiox" value="L2_11" name="radiox" type="radio">u1½ +135

155 lbs.: Felipe Olivieri vs. Tony Martin
Felipe Olivieri (14-4)http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Felipe-Olivieri-28181 joins UFC on a three-fight win streak, all of them via first-round knockout. The Nova Uniao-trained product last fought in April after 1.5 years out of action. He has 13 stoppage wins in total, 10 of them knockouts.

Tony Martin (9-3)http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Tony-Martin-80436 got no matchmaking favors in his first two UFC fights as he faced and fell to current contenders Rashid Magomedov and Beneil Dariush. A submission of Fabricio Camoes righted the ship, although Martin could not repeat that effort against Brazilian jiu-jitsu master Leonardo Santos.
He owns seven wins via submission.
Martin is a monstrously huge Lightweight with brutally effective grappling, a powerhouse capable of holding his own on the mat against extremely good jiu-jitsu artists for one round. The problem is that he gasses with remarkable consistency; he won the first round in all three of his UFC defeats before falling apart in the second.
That said, Olivieri’s inconsistent and has fought just once since 2013. It’s anyones fight if he can get out of the first round, sure, but I’m not convinced he gets there. Martin manhandles him down and cranks his arm the wrong way for the Brazilian’s first career submission loss.
Prediction: Martin via first-round submission

[JIBBBY]

Jibs prediction for best odds and why on this Brown/Dwyer fight. Just capping this crap now.. Expanding on a few other facts and showing capping methods on paper where these MMA writers have missed.. Prop betting...

Randy Brown - while undefeated at only 6-0 seems like he might be biting off more then he can chew facing Matt Dryer in his UFC debut... Matt Dwyer 3 fights deep into the UFC now is currently the dog at +140 which IMO is a bit surprising to see...

Since Brown is suspect on the ground you can't rule out a crazy rare submission with Matt Dwyer but it's not likely since all his wins have come by KO... So you have the ITD prop now at +315 or you can wait til the Dryer by KO prop comes out, that might be +375 if I had to guess....

Neither fighter has ever gone to a decision by the way. With that thought in mind this seems like a very safe bet -

2204 Fight won’t go 3 round distance

<input id="radiox" value="M2_138" name="radiox" type="radio">-270

If ya wanna hit pay dirt then take a shot and hope the 0 goes with Matt Dryer finishing this Jamaican dude... Just be aware there is always a bit greater risk betting against an undefeated fighter though. (hedge Brown by KO could be a possibility)

2209 Dwyer wins inside distance

<input id="radiox" value="M1_141" name="radiox" type="radio">+317

The dog could bark in this one fellas!!!..

[getlucky2win]

AJ can't wrestle, he's not a better striker, and he gasses in 2 minutes. Lol.

bader the better striker? hope u r trollin. idk who da fuq u guys think bader is. but he isnt good striker offensively or defensively. idk where u guys get ths sht. drugs are bad

[JoshKnows46]

AJ can't wrestle, he's not a better striker, and he gasses in 2 minutes. Lol.

3 false statements

[JIBBBY]

3 false statements

I think Unc ment to say -

Bader the better wrestler, Bader the more technical striker, and Rumble gasses after 2 rounds not 2 minutes..

[JoshKnows46]

I think Unc ment to say -

Bader the better wrestler, Bader the more technical striker, and Rumble gasses after 2 rounds not 2 minutes..

Bader can't take rumble down and it doesn't matter if he has the most technical striking in the ufc, (btw baders striking is dog shit bad) his chin is soft and Rumble will connect with it in the first round and he will fall, anyone that thinks bader has a shot of out striking or out wrestling rumble within the first 3 rounds, hasn't seen either fight. Fight won't get out the first if bader ingages johnson at all, he'd have to literally run around the octagon not to get kod in the first. You want to see how this fight goes, go watch the rumble vs Phil Davis fight, it will look exactly like that, exept bader doesn't have the chin Phil does, Bader will not get out the first..

[JoshKnows46]

Yall want to play some dog money, baders not the one, trust me on that... they have plenty heavy dogs that should bark on this card, Brian, dwyer, and ferriera.. look into those 3, get off the idea that bader has even the smallest bit of hope in this fight, because he has none.

[UncleChael]

Bader can't take rumble down and it doesn't matter if he has the most technical striking in the ufc, (btw baders striking is dog shit bad) his chin is soft and Rumble will connect with it in the first round and he will fall, anyone that thinks bader has a shot of out striking or out wrestling rumble within the first 3 rounds, hasn't seen either fight. Fight won't get out the first if bader ingages johnson at all, he'd have to literally run around the octagon not to get kod in the first. You want to see how this fight goes, go watch the rumble vs Phil Davis fight, it will look exactly like that, exept bader doesn't have the chin Phil does, Bader will not get out the first..

You're so lost.

[JIBBBY]

Bader can't take rumble down and it doesn't matter if he has the most technical striking in the ufc, (btw baders striking is dog shit bad) his chin is soft and Rumble will connect with it in the first round and he will fall, anyone that thinks bader has a shot of out striking or out wrestling rumble within the first 3 rounds, hasn't seen either fight. Fight won't get out the first if bader ingages johnson at all, he'd have to literally run around the octagon not to get kod in the first. You want to see how this fight goes, go watch the rumble vs Phil Davis fight, it will look exactly like that, exept bader doesn't have the chin Phil does, Bader will not get out the first..

Last I checked, Bader did pretty well standing and striking with Rashad Evans and he did well in a 5 round decision win against the heavy hitter in OSP, both in recent fights.. Both were scary black men and here comes another one in Rumble.

I just can't agree with ya saying Bader is shit standing.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Ryan-Bader-22858

These are facts Josh and they are undisputed...

[JIBBBY]

Yall want to play some dog money, baders not the one, trust me on that... they have plenty heavy dogs that should bark on this card, Brian, dwyer, and ferriera.. look into those 3, get off the idea that bader has even the smallest bit of hope in this fight, because he has none.

I agree with Ferriera and Dwyer being live dogs.. Bryan Barberena not so much against Sage Northcut though.......

[getlucky2win]

rashad is way past his prime and osp has some of the worst striking technique. but yeah rumble fight will be just like them. u guys should apply for some government disability checks as im sure yall are certifiable retards. i will make a donation to the special olympics, as i feel bad realizing this forum is for the mentally challenged

[JIBBBY]

rashad is way past his prime and osp has some of the worst striking technique

Do you really think Rumble has better striking technique then OSP and Rashad Evans? More power maybe but technique I don't think so... Rumble doesn't even throw kicks.. One trick pony.. Power swings for the KO..

[getlucky2win]

lmao. yes i really think rumble is a much better striker than rashad and osp

[JIBBBY]

lmao. yes i really think rumble is a much better striker than rashad and osp

You got betting blinders on Getlucky? I can see you already wagered on Rumble..

Hey good news as Rumble does have a shot at the early KO victory. He does want to avenge that Rashad Evans (Blackzillian) loss.. I expect an aggressive start for Rumble..

Bader either survives the early onslaught and wins the fight or he doesn't.. Not rocket science... It's just a fight..

[getlucky2win]

yes its obvious to most bader will have little to no success striking with rumble. he has to wrassle his way to victory. i dont thnk he can but i can see the argument. what i cannot see is how anyone could think bader is the better striker. and i havent bet rumble. tho i might. only props so far

[UncleChael]

Ryan Bader knocks him out, I'm never coming back to sbr again.

[TPowell]

Ryan Bader knocks him out, I'm never coming back to sbr again.

Does gnp count lol?

[getlucky2win]

bader the goat. top level wrestling. and now a top striker, technical and elusive. he is like the love child of anderson silva and lyoto machida. gonna crane kick rumble in the face, then send bones runnin scared to hw, and spinning heel kick DC into broadcasting. line already been pounded down like a high dolla ho. wrong guy is favored. put everything u got on darth bader

[JoshKnows46]

Do you really think Rumble has better striking technique then OSP and Rashad Evans? More power maybe but technique I don't think so... Rumble doesn't even throw kicks.. One trick pony.. Power swings for the KO..

jibby, outside of bones jones, rumble johnson is the most dangerious striker in the division, and there is no number 3 close to those 2 guys, he almost knocked cormier out multiple times in a short period, and cormier took rounds of punishment from jones, cormier has a chin on him, bader does not, nor does bader have the skill needed to drain rumbles cardio like cormier did, nor does he have the wrestling that cormier did, you think bader can do the same things cormier did, but he's not as skilled as cormier in any area...bader could fight rumble a 100 times over, and bader gets ko'd in the first round in 80 of those fights, he gets Ko'd in the 2nd round in the other 20, he never wins.....Rumble wont gas out becuase he will just walk bader down till he ko's him, did he look gassed out after the phil davis dec, NO, becuase he was allowed to go at his pace, if bader trys to do what cormier did, it will only quicking his early exit, becuase he doesn't have the skill, chin or wrestling to do what you think he's gonna do.

[bjpenn85]

According to Henry Hooft, Rumble can stand and trade with Tyrone Spong and do decent. Hoofts states something like "this is shocking, i didnt know this was possible to reach this level for mma fighters" + rashad also said that he gets lit up in training sparring with rumble.

[JoshKnows46]

You're so lost.

reminder of what you're betting against...cus you and jibby obviously don't watch fights, and just read sherdog or sum shit.

[Thor4140]

Do you really think Rumble has better striking technique then OSP and Rashad Evans? More power maybe but technique I don't think so... Rumble doesn't even throw kicks.. One trick pony.. Power swings for the KO..

He doesn't?

[JIBBBY]

^^^Right I've never seen any of the fights Josh.

That's really just a ghost of me posting live during each event year after year. I incorporate all sports write ups because there is useful information and trends that can be realized.. Useful for prop betting..

I've seen and remember every Rumble Johnson fight since he turned pro.. Ryan Bader too.. What I can't see is current trends and recent fighter information that can sometimes be found in Sherdog record views and or in the write ups.. Yes MMAmania, and Sherdog record views work, along with recent fighter vids and highlights..

See Josh I gather all the information and that's why I win over time and that's why you need to give me 2 bet points for 30 days.. Young grasshopper you still have much to learn yet...

[JIBBBY]

He doesn't?

Not many Thor... Rumble knocks out people with punches not kicks.. I've never seen Rumble bruise a fighters legs from hard leg kicks and I've never seen Rumble drop a fighter with a strong head or body kick have you?