UFC Fight Night 81: January 17th, 2016

[JoshKnows46]

On these two early..as of January 3rd

Eddie Alvarez Wins By 3 Round Dec +500 Risking $250 to win $1250

TJ Dillashaw -140 Risking $3500 to win $2500

[UncleChael]

but Dillashaw loses and Alvarez gets knocked out.

[JoshKnows46]

but Dillashaw loses and Alvarez gets knocked out.

You also said duffy was gonna knock out Poirior, so i'll take your opinion for what its worth. If that's what you're betting on, Good luck with that.

[UncleChael]

You also said duffy was gonna knock out Poirior, so i'll take your opinion for what its worth. If that's what you're betting on, Good luck with that.

I don't need luck.

[JoshKnows46]

I don't need luck.

Sorry bud, but You do! Alverez and Dillashaw are both no brainers, just like poirior was, even a novice coulda saw that one sided beat down coming....bet what you want, but you'll be shown once again why my name is JoshKnows. You bet against me, you're throwing your money away, this is simple. Review more, Atleast consider not betting these fights.

[Sanity Check]

For this coming fight, Anthony Pettis has been working with Izzy Martinez, Holly Holm and Jon Jones wrestling coach. Hope no one is banking on Alvarez taking Pettis down. People Izzy coaches almost never get taken down when they train seriously for fights.

[bjpenn85]

For this coming fight, Anthony Pettis has been working with Izzy Martinez, Holly Holm and Jon Jones wrestling coach. Hope no one is banking on Alvarez taking Pettis down. People Izzy coaches almost never get taken down when they train seriously for fights.

You never called out a little apology for making an ass out of yourself claiming sage nortchut would loose.

A couple of weeks later after pretending it never happened you called me out:

"Ey BJ, how good did sage northcut look in that first round"

Bj: Won inside distance homey.


Sanity goes silence.....Check! Youre such a chubby little little loser, even david bowie hates you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge7S6-Ta3yg

[bjpenn85]

On these two early..as of January 3rd

Eddie Alvarez Wins By 3 Round Dec +500 Risking $250 to win $1250

TJ Dillashaw -140 Risking $3500 to win $2500

I think you believe here that alvarez can take Pettis down. He probably cant. I think a failt we bettors often do is believing fighters dont adjust. Many times they do, Barboza won the standup knowing Ferguson would pressure him, and fought excellent backwards. You cant beat ferguson, so he had to loose but he really made an impressive effort to adjust. Or even Brandado against T-city, he acknowledged T-citys talent and paced himself and arguably and outstruck T-city for two rounds, but you just cant beat a gracie product on the feet. In this figth i dont see pettis having this huge gap that can be exposed, he fought the worlds best fighter and god taken down, but most guys will get taken down with the pressure dos anjos sets. So even though it holds value, im not sure how sold i am betting Alvarez in this spot.

[bjpenn85]

on the ground, obviously, you can beat all gracies on the feet. even i can.

[UncleChael]

Sorry bud, but You do! Alverez and Dillashaw are both no brainers, just like poirior was, even a novice coulda saw that one sided beat down coming....bet what you want, but you'll be shown once again why my name is JoshKnows. You bet against me, you're throwing your money away, this is simple. Review more, Atleast consider not betting these fights.

Do you even train UFC, bro?

[bjpenn85]

For this coming fight, Anthony Pettis has been working with Izzy Martinez, Holly Holm and Jon Jones wrestling coach. Hope no one is banking on Alvarez taking Pettis down. People Izzy coaches almost never get taken down when they train seriously for fights.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge7S6-Ta3yg

Little fat man who sold his soul
Little fat man who sold his dream

Pathetic little fat man
No one's bloody laughing
The clown that no one laughs at
They all just wish he'd die

He's so depressed at being hated
Sanity takes his own life
He blows his stupid brains out
But the twat would probably miss

Sanity sold his soul for a shot at fame
Catchphrase and wigs and the jokes are lame
He's got no style, he's got no grace
He's banal and facile, he's a fat waste of space

See his pug-nosed face
Pug, pug, pug, pug
See his pug-nosed face
Pug, pug, pug, pug
See his pug-nosed face
Pug, pug, pug, pug
The little fat man with the pug-nosed face

[bjpenn85]

On these two early..as of January 3rd

Eddie Alvarez Wins By 3 Round Dec +500 Risking $250 to win $1250

TJ Dillashaw -140 Risking $3500 to win $2500

...but dont forget that cruz split ya heard...

[Sanity Check]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge7S6-Ta3yg

Little fat man who sold his soul
Little fat man who sold his dream

Pathetic little fat man
No one's bloody laughing
The clown that no one laughs at
They all just wish he'd die

He's so depressed at being hated
Sanity takes his own life
He blows his stupid brains out
But the twat would probably miss

Sanity sold his soul for a shot at fame
Catchphrase and wigs and the jokes are lame
He's got no style, he's got no grace
He's banal and facile, he's a fat waste of space

See his pug-nosed face
Pug, pug, pug, pug
See his pug-nosed face
Pug, pug, pug, pug
See his pug-nosed face
Pug, pug, pug, pug
The little fat man with the pug-nosed face

bjpenn85's theme song.

[JoshKnows46]

Do you even train UFC, bro?

Do I even train ultimate fighting championship? make sense bro....it's Mma, ufc isn't the sport.

[Sanity Check]

You never called out a little apology for making an ass out of yourself claiming sage nortchut would loose.

A couple of weeks later after pretending it never happened you called me out:

"Ey BJ, how good did sage northcut look in that first round"

Bj: Won inside distance homey.


Sanity goes silence.....Check! Youre such a chubby little little loser, even david bowie hates you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge7S6-Ta3yg

btw, responding seriously this time.

Go back and read anything I said about Sage Northcutt or anyone else. Go back and read anything I said about Condit vs Lawler if you like. I doubt you'll find much I was wrong about. I thought Sage was overrated then. People were giving him too much credit saying his striking, wrestling and grappling were top tier, exaggerating how good he is. My opinion hasn't changed. Sage is still overrated.

He might not be overrated enough to lose to Cody Pfister and others ranked below the top 30 in the division. That doesn't mean he isn't overrated. Will his hype train be derailed? Who knows. I never claimed to be psychic. But for those predicting Sage Northcutt will be ranked in the top 5 or the top 10 anytime soon, I think they'll be disappointed.

[bjpenn85]

bjpenn85's theme song.

Haha, this did nothing to prove that you were mistaken siding with franscisco trevino and then pfister. Sure, this has to be my theme song because you lost some bets - same faulty logic strikes again!

[UncleChael]

Do I even train ultimate fighting championship? make sense bro....it's Mma, ufc isn't the sport.

I'm only trolling. Good luck with your bets.

[bjpenn85]

btw, responding seriously this time.

Go back and read anything I said about Sage Northcutt or anyone else. Go back and read anything I said about Condit vs Lawler if you like. I doubt you'll find much I was wrong about. I thought Sage was overrated then. People were giving him too much credit saying his striking, wrestling and grappling were top tier, exaggerating how good he is. My opinion hasn't changed. Sage is still overrated.

He might not be overrated enough to lose to Cody Pfister and others ranked below the top 30 in the division. That doesn't mean he isn't overrated. Will his hype train be derailed? Who knows. I never claimed to be psychic. But for those predicting Sage Northcutt will be ranked in the top 5 or the top 10 anytime soon, I think they'll be disappointed.

Jesus, so if i betted Northcut i automatic have him in my top 10 or believe his hype? No. I knew he was overrated and the odds was off, he shouldnt have been -400, but i knew the ufc gave him a fights he could win twice, and probably in the future as well. Youre simply trying to save your ass giving me opinions i never demonstrated, obviously you know that, no point of trying convince anyone on this forum am that stupid. A bunch of people have been on this forum for a long period, and we have seen this phenomenon long before you even startet capping mma. we saw something you didnt, that northcut was easily a lot better than trevino. You even went to the point you said you betted trevino at +400 or whatever. Dont try to tell me you didnt post this, you did. It annoys me so much you believe you can come back and say, but seriously....lets be honest, when youre not 1% honest of what you said. PATHETIC PATHETICH AND UTTER FAKKICKNG PATHETIC. and bitch am out haha

[bjpenn85]

Originally Posted by Sanity Check
There's a reason why Holly Holm finished all her fights except for 1 by KO/TKO in Invicta and other small organizations before she got to the UFC. After Holly Holm got to the UFC all her fights went to a decision and she didn't look nearly as impressive as she had when she was fighting in smaller promotions. There can be a noticeable difference in the level of competition when making the jump from KOTC, Invicta and other small promotions to the UFC where pretty much everyone is tough.

If we're talking about Sage Northcutt, other than his physique there's nothing I see that is impressive. When he defends takedowns he doesn't do basic things like pushing on the head, scooting his hips back, hand fighting or making basic adjustments. When he strikes neither his kicks or punches look good, his movement doesn't look good, his jiu jitsu looks average, slow and predictable. Maybe he didn't take those fights he's had seriously and didn't train much for them. Maybe he will look a million times better in his UFC debut when he trains seriously and puts more effort into it. As far as I know, Sage is a kid who has no real training or sparring partners, no real team, no real coaching staff or expertise. On top of that it doesn't seem like he travels to other gyms or places to learn the way a lot of amateur and pro MMA fighters do, he just stays in his own little world. Will that be enough to allow him to do well in the UFC? I doubt it. But anything's possible.

Fracisco Trevino missed weight and looked terrible at weigh ins. Hopefully it won't have a negative impact on his performance but he looked a bit defeated on the scale and might have already gave up mentally. In which case we might have to wait till Sage's next fight to really see if he's any good or not.




Sage is impressive, what youre saying about his skills is def not true. He does actually look impressive. but against nobody, we can all agree on that. Is he as good as donald cerrone, or adriano martins, or even k.j. Noons, not at all, i am to not convinced he can compete at the top in at least two-three years. But can he beat Trevino, yes he can, and he probably will.

[JoshKnows46]

I'm only trolling. Good luck with your bets.

Same, good luck to you

[opinionator]

love the take no prisoners attitude you bring to this shit josh

[bjpenn85]

I have went back and forth a little bit on Alvarez and Pettis and come to realise i dont have any faith in Alvarez, instead of letting my thoughts circulate i gathered my own top 7 reasons why alvarez wont win, here it is folks:
Top 10
1. Athletic gap
2. Age disparity
3. Ediie alvarez chin
4. Eddie alvares failure to move away when getting hit. Often times he stand right in front of his opponent after getting rocked, just watch round 1. against melendez.
5. Anthony pettis is furious, he has went underground after his loss against RDA, hired a wrestling coach, and sounds blood thirsty. He is probably making adjustments to account for his weak wrestling performance in his last two fights.
6.Anthony Pettis does usually find room for a sub, if he doesnt KO people out, so if Alvarez is taking down pettis with regularity, dont be suprised if pettis submits alvarez in the later rounds.
6. Alvares may have beaten Gilbert in his last fight, but he looked slow, they both did. Im not too impressed of Alvarez showing in the UFC. He had one good round against Cerrone, but after that, blæh.
7. Alvares doesnt only have a questionable chin, he do have excellent recovery as well because he often comes back and win after getting rocked. Alvarez as we know, always getting rocked. Its like he has to get rocked to wake up or something. But how likely is it that alvarez is getting back in this fight? How often do we see Pettis hurting people without getting the finish? Please share, cause i have never seen this. He flattens people and gets in for the kill.

And thats probably the most likely thing to happen in this fight, if not, Pettis perhaps win a decision. Alvarez usually win by decision, and is not likely to finish, so if playing alvarez, decision si the only way to play him IMO.

[bjpenn85]

So....not top 10 but 7, yeah, whatever.

[bjpenn85]

8. Speed 9. Striking diversity. 10. Hes more christian, thats more or less a fact.

[Shagdogy]

Haven't gotten too deep into this card, but my first thought is that Dillishaw is in a really good spot. Who knows what Cruz will be on that night? Multiple knee surgeries, almost a year and a half off... Yes he KO'd mizugaki but that was so quick we didn't really get to see much. It's been over 3 years since we've really seen him perform in a competitive fight. Dillishaw will be in shape, and he will be crisp, quick, and ready to go all 5 rounds. I don't think it will be pretty for Cruz as this fight hits later rounds. He has too much working against him.

[Thor4140]

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/boxing-mma-ufc-betting/3202395-ufc-fight-night-dillashaw-vs-cruz-january-17-2016-a.html

[Pinocchio]

The way this fight was put together, it brings out a suspicion in me that the UFC knows Cruz is basically done as a fighter at the championship level (too many injuries, too inactive, probably has little desire to fight anymore, also has commentating side-gig going he seems to be content with, etc...). After a really long layoff they brought him back to smash a relative non-contender, and now all of a sudden he's fighting for the belt - exclusively on past glory. Hmmm...

He is hyping up this fight... or hyping up himself actually, like he really wants everyone to believe he can win this, though he probably himself knows that he doesn't stand much of a chance. He's doing his job talking... Would not be surprised if he retired after this fight. Even if he wins.

[yisman]

Abdul-Kerin Edilov (knee) has withdrawn from the UFC fight vs Francimar Barroso. The replacement has yet to been named.

[PaperTrail07]

I like it Sir Alvarez -love the guy as a fighter

On these two early..as of January 3rd

Eddie Alvarez Wins By 3 Round Dec +500 Risking $250 to win $1250

TJ Dillashaw -140 Risking $3500 to win $2500

[PaperTrail07]

Either that or this is HIS LAST STAND-----1 shot at the belt and DONE.....

The way this fight was put together, it brings out a suspicion in me that the UFC knows Cruz is basically done as a fighter at the championship level (too many injuries, too inactive, probably has little desire to fight anymore, also has commentating side-gig going he seems to be content with, etc...). After a really long layoff they brought him back to smash a relative non-contender, and now all of a sudden he's fighting for the belt - exclusively on past glory. Hmmm...

He is hyping up this fight... or hyping up himself actually, like he really wants everyone to believe he can win this, though he probably himself knows that he doesn't stand much of a chance. He's doing his job talking... Would not be surprised if he retired after this fight. Even if he wins.

[Thor4140]

The only way Alvarez wins is if Dos Anjos has taken away Showtimes heart i truly doubt that this has happen. Beating a gassed Melendez doesn't mean much and this is from a guy who has hung out with Eddie. If Eddie gets hurt he will be finished by a guy who knows how to finish. Oh and a shit gift decision is always a possibility.

[TPowell]

one potential issue is there's no way that Alvarez gets a relatively close decision. It would hurt Pettis rep too much and he's a golden boy

[JoshKnows46]

On these two early..as of January 3rd

Eddie Alvarez Wins By 3 Round Dec +500 Risking $250 to win $1250

TJ Dillashaw -140 Risking $3500 to win $2500

Added:
TJ Dillashaw -145 Risking $3500 (for a total of $7000 risked)

TJ Dillashaw wins inside 5 round distance +315 Risking $500

[capone1899]

Added:
TJ Dillashaw -145 Risking $3500 (for a total of $7000 risked)

TJ Dillashaw wins inside 5 round distance +315 Risking $500

What made you double your bet on TJ? That's a lot of risk

[GoBlue77]

Well you threw away money betting against Pettis I see