+190 in new york i might take a small stab at this
Unwritten Law
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10-31-13
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#2
sure does!
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marzwoody
SBR MVP
01-03-14
3902
#3
Of course he does. I'm thinking / hoping he will win.
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Ron_Paul_2012
SBR MVP
01-31-13
3953
#4
Originally posted by marzwoody
Of course he does. I'm thinking / hoping he will win.
Well that settles it. All in on Martinez!
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marzwoody
SBR MVP
01-03-14
3902
#5
Originally posted by Ron_Paul_2012
Well that settles it. All in on Martinez!
What happened to your positive vibe?
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marzwoody
SBR MVP
01-03-14
3902
#6
I think MD has corrupted your mind. its OK. you've always been a sheep anyway...
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Ron_Paul_2012
SBR MVP
01-31-13
3953
#7
Originally posted by marzwoody
What happened to your positive vibe?
Oh make no mistake. I am very positive about fading you. Cheers. Looks like you're good for something after all.
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marzwoody
SBR MVP
01-03-14
3902
#8
Originally posted by Ron_Paul_2012
Oh make no mistake. I am very positive about fading you. Cheers. Looks like you're good for something after all.
Wait so your fading me and picking a large favorite? good luck with that. have fun with the $5 you may win. i'm not saying cotto will win only he has a very good chance and line is way off. but whatever. let me know if you actually wanna discuss the fights, instead of making snide remarks like a twelve year old.
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Ron_Paul_2012
SBR MVP
01-31-13
3953
#9
Originally posted by marzwoody
Wait so your fading me and picking a large favorite? good luck with that. have fun with the $5 you may win. i'm not saying cotto will win only he has a very good chance and line is way off. but whatever. let me know if you actually wanna discuss the fights, instead of making snide remarks like a twelve year old.
You think -200 is a LARGE favorite?
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Indeep
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05-08-14
453
#10
This is a tough one to call, and it all depends on how bad Sergio's lingering injuries are. He's the bigger man, and has quite a chin. He got stung by Chavez Jr. who weighed about 200lbs for that fight, and he still couldn't knock Sergio out. If he's got anything left I think he beats Cotto by a lopsided decision.
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MD
SBR Hall of Famer
01-31-12
9728
#11
Originally posted by Indeep
This is a tough one to call, and it all depends on how bad Sergio's lingering injuries are. He's the bigger man, and has quite a chin. He got stung by Chavez Jr. who weighed about 200lbs for that fight, and he still couldn't knock Sergio out. If he's got anything left I think he beats Cotto by a lopsided decision.
Lol.
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marzwoody
SBR MVP
01-03-14
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#12
Originally posted by Ron_Paul_2012
You think -200 is a LARGE favorite?
You must be the dumbest person who watches the JRE podcast that ever existed. do yourself a favour and slap yourself continuously.
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Drew0585
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12-29-09
440
#13
Martinez by TKO. Bigger, faster, more power. Bad knees or not, Cotto can't hang with Martinez for 12 rounds.
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Indeep
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05-08-14
453
#14
Originally posted by Drew0585
Martinez by TKO. Bigger, faster, more power. Bad knees or not, Cotto can't hang with Martinez for 12 rounds.
Couldnt agree more. If Chavez Jr couldn't take him out, a blown up Cotto has no chance
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Indeep
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05-08-14
453
#15
Originally posted by MD
Lol.
Do you actually watch boxing?
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MD
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01-31-12
9728
#16
Originally posted by Indeep
Do you actually watch boxing?
Do you? Martinez's chin is shot.
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Indeep
SBR Sharp
05-08-14
453
#17
Originally posted by MD
Do you? Martinez's chin is shot.
He had a bad knee in the Murray fight. If Cotto knocks him down I'll come back on and give you props. I just don't see it happening. Also you are a boxing fan so we are a dying breed and have to stick together
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Grabaka
SBR MVP
02-19-11
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#18
It may end up winning or losing but i do think Martinez chin is semi-gone like MDs
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Ron_Paul_2012
SBR MVP
01-31-13
3953
#19
Originally posted by Indeep
He had a bad knee in the Murray fight. If Cotto knocks him down I'll come back on and give you props. I just don't see it happening. Also you are a boxing fan so we are a dying breed and have to stick together
Martinez may go down during the fight but it will probably be due to footwork/balance issues rather than being concussed. His footwork is unorthodox & he get's caught off balance from time to time. He almost never appears hurt though.
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Indeep
SBR Sharp
05-08-14
453
#20
Originally posted by Ron_Paul_2012
Martinez may go down during the fight but it will probably be due to footwork/balance issues rather than being concussed. His footwork is unorthodox & he get's caught off balance from time to time. He almost never appears hurt though.
He's tough as nails. Chavez Jr. landed some bombs on him & still couldn't get the KO. Should be a fun fight
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forthewin
SBR Wise Guy
06-15-12
561
#21
Originally posted by mrluck24
+190 in new york i might take a small stab at this
There is value in any fight, as anything can happen but much more than likely than not Martinez wins this fight.
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forthewin
SBR Wise Guy
06-15-12
561
#22
Originally posted by MD
Do you? Martinez's chin is shot.
Why do you feel that Martinez chin is shot? He's never been KO'd; ever. Yes he was stopped in the beginning of his career by a much more experienced Margarito, but that was 14 years ago, and again he wasn't even off his feet. I bet Pavlik and Chavez punch harder than Cotto, and Martinez took their best punches. If anybodies chin is shot it's Cotto's with all of the punishment he has taken in his career. Cotto has not faced a puncher since 2009 when he was stopped by Pacquiao so we have not sen how he will truly stand up to someone with the power of Sergio Martinez, especially with him moving up to a higher weight class.
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JerseyRobby
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12-14-11
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#23
If Sergio's knees are healthy and he comes in the same form he had against Chavez then Cotto doesn't stand a chance. Cotto struggles with long tall fighters and should not be fighting in this weight class. There is a chance that age catches up to Martinez but the way training and nutrition has evolved mid and late thirty fighters seem to last longer than they used to. Best value bet to me is Martinez inside the distance +300.
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Beelzebubzy
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06-06-11
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#24
Cotto is kicking his ass
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NunyaBidness
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07-26-09
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#25
No 3 knockdown rule saved his ass.
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The HOFF
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07-02-08
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#26
Cotto 6 rounds to 0.
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forthewin
SBR Wise Guy
06-15-12
561
#27
Well that's boxing...Sergio clearly didn't have the knee recovery that he said he did. At 39 with the way his legs looked he's finished..He was nowhere closse to the fighter that he once was. Time to hang em' up Sergio, it was good while it lasted.
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THE_LOCKSMITH
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08-25-08
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#28
yup
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forthewin
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06-15-12
561
#29
They damn near should take his purse for deceiving the commission and the public. He insisted that his legs were fine and he knew that he absolutely didn't have the legs to go in that fight. He could barely stand up straight. He knew he he was done and took the fight to get one last big payday. I've always had respect for Martinez as a fighter and I still respect the way that he stayed in the fight as long as he could but I don't respect the fact that he went in that fight knowing his knees were bad. There was no way that he sparred and couldn't tell that his knee was still bad and his legs were shot. Now GGG is going to batter Cotto and take his belt because although he is a good fighter, he is no true middleweight champion. That was a farce and Golovkin is going to destroy Cotto.
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The HOFF
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07-02-08
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#30
Cotto looked great. Would love to see him back at 147. I still think he's too small for middleweight and I have no idea where he goes in the division from here. A fight with Curtis Stevens would be a fun.
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forthewin
SBR Wise Guy
06-15-12
561
#31
Originally posted by The HOFF
Cotto looked great. Would love to see him back at 147. I still think he's too small for middleweight and I have no idea where he goes in the division from here. A fight with Curtis Stevens would be a fun.
Nope. He stepped up to fight in that farce, with Sergio in a wheelchair so he needs to stay as a middleweight and defend his title and prove he could be a worthy champion as Sergio was before his knees turned to rubber. A defense against Curtis Stevens or Danny Jacobs would be great and if he is able to off the title defense, he should go for a unification with GGG.
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marzwoody
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01-03-14
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#32
Just like i said.
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forthewin
SBR Wise Guy
06-15-12
561
#33
Originally posted by marzwoody
Just like i said.
You said Martinez chin was shot. He didn't get ko'd his corner stopped the fight due to his knee,lol...Sergio tricked his way into that fight on brittle, bum legs and got his last big payday. His knee never recovered and it showed from the opening round. He couldn't move at all. Looks like ghis chin held up fine being that he was in trouble from the start of the fight and yet a 100% Cotto, still couldn't ko him. Sergio made it to the 9th round fighting like he was on stilts. His chin wasn't the problem, nor was his age, his legs were.
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unlearn
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03-22-14
9041
#34
GGG or Canelo would retire Cotto.
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marzwoody
SBR MVP
01-03-14
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#35
Originally posted by forthewin
You said Martinez chin was shot. He didn't get ko'd his corner stopped the fight due to his knee,lol...Sergio tricked his way into that fight on brittle, bum legs and got his last big payday. His knee never recovered and it showed from the opening round. He couldn't move at all. Looks like ghis chin held up fine being that he was in trouble from the start of the fight and yet a 100% Cotto, still couldn't ko him. Sergio made it to the 9th round fighting like he was on stilts. His chin wasn't the problem, nor was his age, his legs were.
No that wasn't me dude. it was someone using my pic. look back i said cotto would win.