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  • MD
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-31-12
    • 9728

    #36
    Re: Ron_Paul and Thor. I post my plays before the event, never claim that I won when the plays lost, and often admit to some of my plays being terrible. What I don't do, is run around the forum trying to boost my own ego by proclaiming how great I am for taking Jones at ridiculous prices, or for "being the only one that sees how the books fixed the Jones/Gus fight despite line movement and despite the fight being expected to end ITD." Would quote you and argue your specific points, but I don't respect either of you, so it's not worth my time.

    Originally posted by Noleafclover
    The facts and nothing but, huh? Even when there's a clear interpretation if you watch it and ask yourself, "what is each fighter's gameplan, how should it play out" Seems like you're refusing to even ask yourself that. But don't you do it when you make live bets?

    On a slightly different note, actually Wineland edging out round 1 should encourage you about Barao, who's been in title fights and whose style clearly uses less energy, especially since we've seen Wineland slow down significantly in 3-rounders.



    I have some respect for Joe Rogan and Dominick Cruz as analysts (certainly more than a tout's twitter followers, who presumably pay for his services because they themselves don't trust their opinion), and have yet to hear a contrary opinion aside from yours, and have yet to hear an explanation offered from you.

    Kinda funny, you have yet to explain why Barao threw so few punches if he wasn't finding his range, and because I offered people who agreed with me after explaining my reasoning, you criticize me?
    You make a lot of assumptions, one of which is that there's a clear interpretation.

    Fightmetric (which, for the purposes of this conversation, I will mention I think is unreliable in their landed strikes stats, and probably their thrown strikes stats too) had Barao throwing 33 significant strikes, which is more than he threw in any round against Michael McDonald. That itself is not proof of anything because, again, I think that Fightmetric's stats are very poor, but I myself in no way thought that Barao "threw so few punches". I thought he was pretty active throughout the round and that was clear to see.

    Your argument uses a lot of starting points which you take for granted, and which I think are false. If we disagree on those, we're arguing about two entirely different things.
    Last edited by MD; 09-24-13, 09:42 AM.
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    • Beelzebubzy
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 06-06-11
      • 6995

      #37
      @SBNLukeThomas: According to @BovadaLV, Jon Jones would be a -450 favorite against a +325 underdog in Alexander Gustafsson in a potential rematch.
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      • MD
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 01-31-12
        • 9728

        #38
        Originally posted by MD
        You make a lot of assumptions, one of which is that there's a clear interpretation.

        Fightmetric (which, for the purposes of this conversation, I will mention I think is unreliable in their landed strikes stats, and probably their thrown strikes stats too) had Barao throwing 33 significant strikes, which is more than he threw in any round against Michael McDonald. That itself is not proof of anything because, again, I think that Fightmetric's stats are very poor, but I myself in no way thought that Barao "threw so few punches". I thought he was pretty active throughout the round and that was clear to see.

        Your argument uses a lot of starting points which you take for granted, and which I think are false. If we disagree on those, we're arguing about two entirely different things.
        LMAO. Just re-watched R1, and it gives me even else faith in Fightmetric. According to them, Barao outstruck Wineland 21-10. I'd love to see anyone watch that round strike-by-strike and come to that conclusion.

        In regards to our discussion, I don't think Barao wanted to box with Wineland by the way he was fighting. He was constantly pushing for kicking distance, and whenever he slipped, he always slipped and exited on an angle which made it easy to get out of punching distance with no fear of getting hit. Probably smart. He's a good boxer, but he has a much bigger edge at kicking distance. No need to sit there and risk getting KO'd by the superior boxer.
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        • Vaughany
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 03-07-10
          • 45563

          #39
          yeah fightmetric is bollox
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          • Thor4140
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 02-09-08
            • 22296

            #40
            Originally posted by MD
            You make both assumptions about how Wineland was feeling after getting hit (hint: he said he was fine, and recovering), and assumptions about why Barao lost the first round. Completely conjecture.

            "It won knockout of the night" as justification for a stoppage would be funny if it weren't so bizarre.



            You couldn't have fit more lies into three sentences.
            They are lies yet guys are agreeing with me. As for respect i really don't need it from ya. I bet even ur closes buddies chuckle when u say you were on the right side even tho it lost. If you got screwed by judging i can see your case. A second round knockout in a five round fight is not the right side slick. Lots of guys win a round and then a few adjustments follow and they get smashed ala Machida Jones. Did u have Machida in that one and say ya had the right side also? Hey maybe u are on to something. Next bet i lose im gonna tell the book i had the right side and see if i can get paid. As for that winning knockout of the night i was stunned when Dana said that but i didn't see the whole card. The fights i did see about five of them nobody got knocked out lol. Face it Wineland panicked and didn't know how to bail out of the mess he got himself into by losing his balance from the piggy toe that hit him on his cheek. Gus took shots a gorilla would have gotten knockout. Wineland shot wouldn't even have knock out Shuab , Wandy, Lidell, or Sotiropoulos. The chinest of the chin class. Ya can throw in Arlovski too lol.
            Last edited by Thor4140; 09-24-13, 11:54 AM.
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            • Noleafclover
              SBR MVP
              • 06-06-13
              • 1349

              #41
              You may want to rewatch the fight, he threw mostly leg kicks.

              edit: outdated.
              Last edited by Noleafclover; 09-24-13, 11:57 AM.
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              • MD
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 01-31-12
                • 9728

                #42
                Originally posted by Thor4140
                They are lies yet guys are agreeing with me. As for respect i really don't need it from ya. I bet even ur closes buddies chuckle when u say you were on the right side even tho it lost. If you got screwed by judging i can see your case. A second round knockout in a five round fight is not the right side slick. Lots of guys win a round and then a few adjustments follow and they get smashed ala Machida Jones. Did u have Machida in that one and say ya had the right side also? Hey maybe u are on to something. Next bet i lose im gonna tell the book i had the right side and see if i can get paid. As for that winning knockout of the night i was stunned when Dana said that but i didn't see the whole card. The fights i did see about five of them nobody got knocked out lol. Face it Wineland panicked and didn't know how to bail out of the mess he got himself into by losing his balance from the piggy toe that hit him on his cheek. Gus took shots a gorilla would have gotten knockout. Wineland shot wouldn't even have knock out Shuab , Wandy, Lidell, or Sotiropoulos. The chinest of the chin class. Ya can throw in Arlovski too lol.
                Guys like Ron_Paul agree with you. Seems legit. He thinks fluoridated water is poison, too. You two should get along great.

                If I believe the stoppage was premature (which I do), and I 'capped Wineland at +250, and got him at around +600, and Wineland won the first round clearly, you think it's a stretch to say that Wineland won more often than the odds indicate? I thought Wineland was the right side beforehand, and nothing in the fight suggested otherwise, with the events even supporting my 'capping of the fight. The fact that you can say something that equates to "if you lose and it's a bad decision, you were on the right side if your guy was a dog" shows a hilarious inability to determine who the right side was in the first place.

                Originally posted by Noleafclover
                You may want to rewatch the fight, he threw mostly leg kicks.
                ? I said he didn't want to box with Wineland. I'm well aware he threw mostly leg kicks. Well, leg kicks and counter-hooks.
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                • Thor4140
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 02-09-08
                  • 22296

                  #43
                  Originally posted by MD
                  Guys like Ron_Paul agree with you. Seems legit. He thinks fluoridated water is poison, too. You two should get along great.

                  If I believe the stoppage was premature (which I do), and I 'capped Wineland at +250, and got him at around +600, and Wineland won the first round clearly, you think it's a stretch to say that Wineland won more often than the odds indicate? I thought Wineland was the right side beforehand, and nothing in the fight suggested otherwise, with the events even supporting my 'capping of the fight. The fact that you can say something that equates to "if you lose and it's a bad decision, you were on the right side if your guy was a dog" shows a hilarious inability to determine who the right side was in the first place.



                  ? I said he didn't want to box with Wineland. I'm well aware he threw mostly leg kicks. Well, leg kicks and counter-hooks.
                  Guys have told u for ever that maybe it would nice to see u humble for a change. Do i have to list them? Another one of ur beauties was saying how u were gonna have a huge night than LFury starts promoting himself and u got mad. Yeah it got sickening but u said it right after you promoted urself. You have some of the greatest selective vision i have witness on the net. Just take the fuking loss okay. Poeple are sik of your "i had the right side" nonsense. Everyone loses and you do too.
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                  • Thor4140
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 02-09-08
                    • 22296

                    #44
                    If Sider came in here and said he was on the right side with Gus i can see some merit with it. Getting blasted after 1 round is not the right side cause ya landed a few punches in the first round. Punches in no way had Renen in any kind of trouble.
                    Last edited by Thor4140; 09-24-13, 12:13 PM.
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                    • Noleafclover
                      SBR MVP
                      • 06-06-13
                      • 1349

                      #45
                      Originally posted by MD
                      LMAO. Just re-watched R1, and it gives me even else faith in Fightmetric. According to them, Barao outstruck Wineland 21-10. I'd love to see anyone watch that round strike-by-strike and come to that conclusion.

                      In regards to our discussion, I don't think Barao wanted to box with Wineland by the way he was fighting. He was constantly pushing for kicking distance, and whenever he slipped, he always slipped and exited on an angle which made it easy to get out of punching distance with no fear of getting hit. Probably smart. He's a good boxer, but he has a much bigger edge at kicking distance. No need to sit there and risk getting KO'd by the superior boxer.
                      Yeah, it was prolly 13-15 or something on strikes.

                      Exactly, that was his r1 strategy. See how frenetic Wineland was? Seen the fights where he slows down by early r3? Barao did start swinging with the right hook early in round 2.
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                      • Noleafclover
                        SBR MVP
                        • 06-06-13
                        • 1349

                        #46
                        Originally posted by Thor4140
                        You have some of the greatest selective vision i have witness on the net.
                        ....
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                        • Noleafclover
                          SBR MVP
                          • 06-06-13
                          • 1349

                          #47
                          Originally posted by MD
                          If I believe the stoppage was premature (which I do), and I 'capped Wineland at +250, and got him at around +600, and Wineland won the first round clearly, you think it's a stretch to say that Wineland won more often than the odds indicate? I thought Wineland was the right side beforehand, and nothing in the fight suggested otherwise, with the events even supporting my 'capping of the fight. The fact that you can say something that equates to "if you lose and it's a bad decision, you were on the right side if your guy was a dog" shows a hilarious inability to determine who the right side was in the first place.



                          ? I said he didn't want to box with Wineland. I'm well aware he threw mostly leg kicks. Well, leg kicks and counter-hooks.
                          I don't follow the bold. You mean to say wrong side? Re: underlined, yeah, I hadn't reloaded the page in a few hours. RE: the rest of it, yes, I do think its incorrect - because Wineland's chance to win the fight was mainly in the first round, before he started to tire himself out with his frenetic pace, and before Barao weakened his legs and got the range to start looking for the finish.

                          Honestly, I don't get how you could cap it like that in the first place, with how Wineland carries himself, how good Barao is defensively, how simply outclassed pretty much everywhere except for speed he is, and how poor Wineland's showing has been against significant competition.. spose that's a much longer discussion, though.
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                          • MD
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 01-31-12
                            • 9728

                            #48
                            Originally posted by Thor4140
                            Guys have told u for ever that maybe it would nice to see u humble for a change. Do i have to list them?Another one of ur beauties was saying how u were gonna have a huge night than LFury starts promoting himself and u got mad. Yeah it got sickening but u said it right after you promoted urself. You have some of the greatest selective vision i have witness on the net. Just take the fuking loss okay. Poeple are sik of your "i had the right side" nonsense. Everyone loses and you do too.
                            Oh, really? Ok, go find the quotes. Yeah, I'm sure I was sitting around the event thread tooting my own horn then got mad when Luca did it. You should have no problem proving that. Not that whether or not Luca was up his own ass was the point of my complaint, the point was that he was clearly advertising MMAOB in the event threads and it was disgusting.

                            Originally posted by Noleafclover
                            Yeah, it was prolly 13-15 or something on strikes.

                            Exactly, that was his r1 strategy. See how frenetic Wineland was? Seen the fights where he slows down by early r3? Barao did start swinging with the right hook early in round 2.
                            He was actually throwing the right hook in R1, too. Same manor he was using it in R2; as a counter, for the most part. A couple of times (once from memory, maybe more), he threw wild combos of sloppy hooks, but other than that, he just threw it as a counter. Which is a good idea on his part. Just running into Wineland is the worst thing you could do, he's arguably the best counter-puncher at 135.
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                            • MD
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 01-31-12
                              • 9728

                              #49
                              Originally posted by Noleafclover
                              I don't follow the bold. You mean to say wrong side? Re: underlined, yeah, I hadn't reloaded the page in a few hours. RE: the rest of it, yes, I do think its incorrect - because Wineland's chance to win the fight was mainly in the first round, before he started to tire himself out with his frenetic pace, and before Barao weakened his legs and got the range to start looking for the finish.

                              Honestly, I don't get how you could cap it like that in the first place, with how Wineland carries himself, how good Barao is defensively, how simply outclassed pretty much everywhere except for speed he is, and how poor Wineland's showing has been against significant competition.. spose that's a much longer discussion, though.
                              No, I don't mean to say wrong side. I mean to say that if a fighter deserves to win the decision and does not, it does not instantly mean that they were the right side, even if they were an underdog.

                              I don't really care if you disagree with how I 'capped the Wineland/Barao fight. Not because I don't respect your opinion, but because no one else is wagering with my bankroll. I make my own decisions, come to my own assessments and bet accordingly. There are exactly two people whose opinions on fights I generally care about on this site. I don't ignore everyone else, but I don't really care what they think about fights, either. It's nice to read their analysis and hear their opinions, but it would be very rare for me to take them to hear in my own 'capping. If a guy like Thor wants to say "hehe u thunked u wuz on de rigt side hehehehe", that's fine. I don't really care. He can think I'm a long-term loser for all I care. All I care about is bankroll growth. I gave out free winners consistently for months, and then two of my thread plays lost, and I got absolutely shit on from all angles. People were still bringing it up for weeks afterwards. Bit hard to care what people think of my plays with that in mind.
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                              • Noleafclover
                                SBR MVP
                                • 06-06-13
                                • 1349

                                #50
                                Also: and this is very important. Is this a better picture of Natalie Dormer? I'm thinking yes.

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                                • MD
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 01-31-12
                                  • 9728

                                  #51
                                  I would say yes.
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                                  • Ron_Paul_2012
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 01-31-13
                                    • 3953

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by MD
                                    Guys like Ron_Paul agree with you. Seems legit. He thinks fluoridated water is poison, too. You two should get along great.

                                    If I believe the stoppage was premature (which I do), and I 'capped Wineland at +250, and got him at around +600, and Wineland won the first round clearly, you think it's a stretch to say that Wineland won more often than the odds indicate? I thought Wineland was the right side beforehand, and nothing in the fight suggested otherwise, with the events even supporting my 'capping of the fight. The fact that you can say something that equates to "if you lose and it's a bad decision, you were on the right side if your guy was a dog" shows a hilarious inability to determine who the right side was in the first place.



                                    ? I said he didn't want to box with Wineland. I'm well aware he threw mostly leg kicks. Well, leg kicks and counter-hooks.
                                    Do you even know what sodium fluoride is? The lethal dose for a 70 kg (154 lb) human is estimated at 5–10 g.[7] Sodium fluoride is classed as toxic by both inhalation (of dusts or aerosols) and ingestion.[13] In high enough doses, it has been shown to affect the heart and circulatory system. Studies have also shown a reduction in IQ. And depending on where you live. Sodium Fluoride is also a term used to describe waste product's from the the Aluminum & Fertilization Industries which is put into some water supplies. You have probably been drinking it your whole life (or maybe not. It depends on where you are located). It will not instantly kill you. Just dumb you down. It certainly explains quite a bit when considering your strange behavior Marcus. Drink up. It's far too late for you anyway. (No LOL icon here. There is nothing funny about soft kill weapons used on a mass scale.) You're either ignorant, in denial, or have Stockholm Syndrome.
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                                    • Thor4140
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 02-09-08
                                      • 22296

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by MD
                                      Oh, really? Ok, go find the quotes. Yeah, I'm sure I was sitting around the event thread tooting my own horn then got mad when Luca did it. You should have no problem proving that. Not that whether or not Luca was up his own ass was the point of my complaint, the point was that he was clearly advertising MMAOB in the event threads and it was disgusting.



                                      .
                                      After the Schaub fight u said u were having a huge night like u usually do every card. Fury started his pimping right after that and you got all mad. It is there for all to see but im sure with what u said u will say u were just commenting. Kinda spin ur words like u always do. Fact is u have gotten a little perturb with a few guys here if they get some compliments lol.
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                                      • Noleafclover
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 06-06-13
                                        • 1349

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by MD
                                        No, I don't mean to say wrong side. I mean to say that if a fighter deserves to win the decision and does not, it does not instantly mean that they were the right side, even if they were an underdog.
                                        Is this a reference to something I said I'm forgetting? Though I would think generally that fighter would be the right side, without further context. Was this the one where I said prima facie it would be, and asked Nunya for clarification since I missed the fight? You're spinning that a bit to say I'm saying instantly and always if so.

                                        Originally posted by MD
                                        I don't really care if you disagree with how I 'capped the Wineland/Barao fight. Not because I don't respect your opinion, but because no one else is wagering with my bankroll. I make my own decisions, come to my own assessments and bet accordingly. There are exactly two people whose opinions on fights I generally care about on this site. I don't ignore everyone else, but I don't really care what they think about fights, either. It's nice to read their analysis and hear their opinions, but it would be very rare for me to take them to hear in my own 'capping. If a guy like Thor wants to say "hehe u thunked u wuz on de rigt side hehehehe", that's fine. I don't really care. He can think I'm a long-term loser for all I care. All I care about is bankroll growth. I gave out free winners consistently for months, and then two of my thread plays lost, and I got absolutely shit on from all angles. People were still bringing it up for weeks afterwards. Bit hard to care what people think of my plays with that in mind.
                                        Woah there cowboy. Was pretty much just getting some of my background thoughts going in on the fight down there, and letting you respond if you felt the urge. I think we're generally at the agree to disagree part of the conversation with respect to what we could know from the fight itself.
                                        Last edited by Noleafclover; 09-24-13, 01:32 PM.
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                                        • Beelzebubzy
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 06-06-11
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                                          #55
                                          @TheMDMMA: -6u. Down to 93.5. Lots of close calls that could have gone either way, thought Whittaker won reasonably clearly, but Mizugaki edged it IMO.

                                          @TheMDMMA: -8u for that card. Terrible, terrible call by me on that Hall fight. Bad beat on the 'Reem fight though, should have been stopped early.


                                          yeah md stop admitting about having huge nights
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                                          • The iron sheik
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 01-17-13
                                            • 1105

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by Ron_Paul_2012
                                            Do you even know what sodium fluoride is? The lethal dose for a 70 kg (154 lb) human is estimated at 5–10 g.[7] Sodium fluoride is classed as toxic by both inhalation (of dusts or aerosols) and ingestion.[13] In high enough doses, it has been shown to affect the heart and circulatory system. Studies have also shown a reduction in IQ. And depending on where you live. Sodium Fluoride is also a term used to describe waste product's from the the Aluminum & Fertilization Industries which is put into some water supplies. You have probably been drinking it your whole life (or maybe not. It depends on where you are located). It will not instantly kill you. Just dumb you down. It certainly explains quite a bit when considering your strange behavior Marcus. Drink up. It's far too late for you anyway. (No LOL icon here. There is nothing funny about soft kill weapons used on a mass scale.) You're either ignorant, in denial, or have Stockholm Syndrome.


                                            what a hilarious buffoon

                                            the village idiot that just keeps on giving
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                                            • MD
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
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                                              • 9728

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by Noleafclover
                                              Is this a reference to something I said I'm forgetting? Though I would think generally that fighter would be the right side, without further context. Was this the one where I said prima facie it would be, and asked Nunya for clarification since I missed the fight? You're spinning that a bit to say I'm saying instantly and always if so.



                                              Woah there cowboy. Was pretty much just getting some of my background thoughts going in on the fight down there, and letting you respond if you felt the urge. I think we're generally at the agree to disagree part of the conversation with respect to what we could know from the fight itself.
                                              It wasn't in reference to anything you said. It was in reference to something Thor said. It was a reply to him, afterall.

                                              The second quote isn't an attempt to argue with you. I know we're pretty much agreeing to disagree. I was just pointing out that it's not a lack of respect for your opinion that causes me to not care if you think I was on the wrong side or not.

                                              Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                                              @TheMDMMA: -6u. Down to 93.5. Lots of close calls that could have gone either way, thought Whittaker won reasonably clearly, but Mizugaki edged it IMO.

                                              @TheMDMMA: -8u for that card. Terrible, terrible call by me on that Hall fight. Bad beat on the 'Reem fight though, should have been stopped early.


                                              yeah md stop admitting about having huge nights
                                              I'll try my best bro.
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                                              • MD
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                                                • 01-31-12
                                                • 9728

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                After the Schaub fight u said u were having a huge night like u usually do every card. Fury started his pimping right after that and you got all mad. It is there for all to see but im sure with what u said u will say u were just commenting. Kinda spin ur words like u always do. Fact is u have gotten a little perturb with a few guys here if they get some compliments lol.
                                                What a f-cking surprise that you're lying through your teeth again.

                                                I said this:

                                                Originally posted by MD
                                                Schaub is better in literally every area. No surprise that he was winning on the feet. Pleasant surprise that he avoided being KO'd on the feet though.
                                                Originally posted by Luca Fury
                                                Boom! Schuab! Easy winner for another 3 units! 4-0 now for +12.57 units, not including my +300 round robin that cashed. Huge night.




                                                Agree 100%. That's why I bet him, but him throwing wild strikes with his chin in the air was making me worried LOL
                                                The "agree 100%" bit is Luca replying to my post. Then I replied with:

                                                Originally posted by MD
                                                Huge night for me, too. Brilliant fight by Schaub, glad that his technique was enough to overcome Mitrione's physical advantages.
                                                Yeah, I said I was having a huge night, then Luca bragged, then I got mad, right?

                                                Also, I don't say I have a huge night every card. I actually have been on a bad run recently and finished down a few cards in a row. I said I had a huge night because my documented plays all won.
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                                                • Beelzebubzy
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                                                  #59
                                                  Think it's ironic that people are biting te hands that feed them.
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                                                  • Ron_Paul_2012
                                                    SBR MVP
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                                                    • 3953

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by The iron sheik


                                                    what a hilarious buffoon

                                                    the village idiot that just keeps on giving
                                                    The effeminate nelly has returned. irongeek is the perfect example of how damaging fluoridated water can be. Sorry your mom could not afford an adequate water filter. By the way how's the weight loss & job hunt going.



                                                    iron geeks buddy sold him out for a couple of my picks for this weekends Bellator card! Can't make this sh*t up!
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                                                    • The iron sheik
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                                                      • 01-17-13
                                                      • 1105

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by Ron_Paul_2012
                                                      The effeminate nelly has returned. irongeek is the perfect example of how damaging fluoridated water can be. Sorry your mom could not afford an adequate water filter. By the way how's the weight loss & job hunt going.



                                                      iron geeks buddy sold him out for a couple of my picks for this weekends Bellator card! Can't make this sh*t up!
                                                      Never have drinked fluoridated water, sorry. lmfao at you selling picks, no need for anyone to buy your shit, just play the lines that are closest to or over -1000, thats the perfect sharktastic play recommended by the hilarious buffoon who has trouble grasping simple concepts

                                                      never been fat and out of a job either, sorry. Projecting isn't a very nice thing, chalkpaul2012
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                                                      • Thor4140
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 02-09-08
                                                        • 22296

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                                                        Think it's ironic that people are biting te hands that feed them.
                                                        U r his biggest nuthugger and you post two post of his basically saying what most think. Both post hint to how he was right but he lost LMFAO Couldn't u at least find one where he just says he lost and not some side shit where he should have won? Bitting the hands that feed him lol? I tailed him once on a fight i knew nothing about and lost because he was very convincing. That was the last time with him because i usually do my own work. I forget the match but i think it lasted one round lol. His nonsense and chest pounding on the Weidman fight was nauseating. I recently watched that again and to me it looked like Weidman was gassing. Nobody seriously will think he won that fight by dominating. He got a lucky break. Not dissing Weidman either cause he is a beast but he got a break that night. He might have still won who knows but the way he seem to be gassing should worry him. In no way would i be insulting people with their pick of Silva with a win like that.
                                                        Last edited by Thor4140; 09-24-13, 03:40 PM.
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                                                        • Thor4140
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                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by MD
                                                          What a f-cking surprise that you're lying through your teeth again.

                                                          I said this:





                                                          The "agree 100%" bit is Luca replying to my post. Then I replied with:



                                                          Yeah, I said I was having a huge night, then Luca bragged, then I got mad, right?

                                                          Also, I don't say I have a huge night every card. I actually have been on a bad run recently and finished down a few cards in a row. I said I had a huge night because my documented plays all won.
                                                          really lying thru my teeth? U just quoted exactly what i said.

                                                          I guess that selective vision is acting up again. There is nothing wrong with what i said. U were bragging about ur huge night than Fury started bragging and u got mad LMFAO. In ur defense Fury was getting sickening but the facts are u bragged first and than ya got mad at Fury lol. It is not like im the only guy that thinks this lol.
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                                                          • MD
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                                                            • 01-31-12
                                                            • 9728

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                            Ur his biggest nuthugger and you post two post of his basically saying what most think. Both post hint to how he was right but he lost LMFAO Couldn't u at least find one where he just says he lost and not some side shit where he should have won? Bitting the hands that feed him lol? I tailed him once on a fight i knew nothing about and lost because he was very convincing. That was the last time with him because i usually do my own work. I forget the match but i think it lasted one round lol. His nonsense and chest pounding on the weidman fight was nauseating. Irecently watched that again and to me it looked like Weidman was gassing. Nobody seriously will think he won that fight by dominating. He got a lucky break. Not dissing Weidman either cause he is a beast but he got a break that night. He might have still won who knows but the way he seems to be gassing should worry him. In no way would i be insulting people with their pick of Silva with a win like that.
                                                            No one can win on SBR. You post blatant lies about me, and then say "they're not lies, people are agreeing with me", and then when someone defends me, they're a nuthugger. Such a childish attitude to have.

                                                            Also, I was on Perez in that Mizugaki fight. I was saying that I thought Mizugaki deserved to win the decision. I also said that the Hall bet was awful. Yet I was saying "I was right but I lost". If you don't like me, fine, but lying about me and painting a picture of me as something I'm not is silly and just makes you look petty.

                                                            Also, good bet, just opened: Will Brooks -280.

                                                            Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                            really lying thru my teeth? U just quoted exactly what i said.

                                                            I guess that selective vision is acting up again. There is nothing wrong with what i said. U were bragging about ur huge night than Fury started bragging and u got mad LMFAO. In ur defense Fury was getting sickening but the facts are u bragged first and than ya got mad at Fury lol. It is not like im the only guy that thinks this lol.
                                                            ...Wow. You're definitely a troll. Either that or you can't read. I do like how you say "the facts are", and then contradict what I just proved are the facts, though.
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                                                            • MD
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                                                              • 01-31-12
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                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                              really lying thru my teeth? U just quoted exactly what i said.

                                                              I guess that selective vision is acting up again. There is nothing wrong with what i said. U were bragging about ur huge night than Fury started bragging and u got mad LMFAO. In ur defense Fury was getting sickening but the facts are u bragged first and than ya got mad at Fury lol. It is not like im the only guy that thinks this lol.
                                                              Originally posted by Luca Fury
                                                              Boom! Schuab! Easy winner for another 3 units! 4-0 now for +12.57 units, not including my +300 round robin that cashed. Huge night.
                                                              Originally posted by MD
                                                              Huge night for me, too.
                                                              The facts, huh?
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                                                              • Educ8d Degener8
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 01-12-10
                                                                • 3177

                                                                #66
                                                                I don't even recall MD big upping himself in the 165 thread.

                                                                Perhaps I was too busy cringing at Fury's nauseating self fellating snake oil sales posts.
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                                                                • MD
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                                                                  • 01-31-12
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by Educ8d Degener8
                                                                  I don't even recall MD big upping himself in the 165 thread.

                                                                  Perhaps I was too busy cringing at Fury's nauseating self fellating snake oil sales posts.
                                                                  My only post that could be construed as braggin that I remember was:

                                                                  Originally posted by MD
                                                                  Huge night for me, too. Brilliant fight by Schaub, glad that his technique was enough to overcome Mitrione's physical advantages.
                                                                  Think I mentioned in my own thread that I finished up 14.5u in my Twitter plays though.

                                                                  I had an argument with Luca through DM's on Twitter about that by the way. Tried to convince him to stop posting his results every time one of his bets hit, as it was blatant advertising. He said that he knew for a fact that some people had seen his posts on SBR and bought his service as a result, so he was going to keep doing it. Oh well, I tried.
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                                                                  • Educ8d Degener8
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 01-12-10
                                                                    • 3177

                                                                    #68
                                                                    He should start a thread then.. but then people would hold him to the fire when his shit tanks.

                                                                    It's much easier for him to selectively chime when his plays are actually hitting.

                                                                    Snake. Oil.
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                                                                    • MD
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 01-31-12
                                                                      • 9728

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Should have seen Gabe the other night. He bragged hard about going 18-1 on the last card (actually went 13-8), and on this card, he went something like 7-12, and he never mentioned how he did for the night on Twitter, just bragged about hitting Jones by decision at >+400.
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                                                                      • Thor4140
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 02-09-08
                                                                        • 22296

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by Educ8d Degener8
                                                                        I don't even recall MD big upping himself in the 165 thread.

                                                                        Perhaps I was too busy cringing at Fury's nauseating self fellating snake oil sales posts.
                                                                        His 'huge night' comment has been said a lot in other threads in other ufc events. I wouldn't have said anything if i didn't see this numerous times before. What i find funny is that when he said it he immediately got mad at Fury for gloating. It was early in Fury gloating maybe after the first gloat possibly the second. To me they were both gloating just Fury was sickening.
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