What a stud. You should feel great for picking Gus.
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Was it just you and him?Comment -
Sacre & I liked Gus too.
Kid is a highly skilled warrior. He shocked a lot of people but the sharps knew all along how dangerous Alex was...Comment -
Jones -400 for rematchComment -
But congrats to sider....he was the loudest one. I actually felt better about Wineland than Gus.
I hope he freerolled too.Comment -
Wineland was a great bet. I 'capped him at +250. Nothing in the fight said otherwise, either.Comment -
pretty sure jon jones won guys. you lost if you had money on gustaf.
what I find funny about you guys is Luca Fury posts on his twitter that he assumed the boxing fight between canelo and floyd would be questionable with the judjng, but cunningly make bets to hedge a bad decision.
but when it comes to mma, hes always complains about the judges?? well why dont you make bets that also hedge a bad judges call in mma then??? is it beuase you diidint think the mma fight would be so close in the first place? well you can only blame yourself then.Comment -
highlight my shitty spelling? ha?
its not even worth tring to fix my spelling for you shitty ""professional gamblers"" just a waste of my time.Comment -
Do consider relocatingComment -
i will say this about sider. We went back and forth on the wrestling aspect of this fight and i couldn't have been more wrong. Never in a million years i would think Gus would do so well in this department.Comment -
Questionable knockout of the night.
But to give that a slightly more serious treatment, its a different type of knockout getting hit there than on the chin - he wasn't out cold, no, but the room was spinning and all he was able to do was put his hands around his head as Barao rained down blows. That's not intelligent defense. Not even the turtle position, he was in the face plant position.
More to the point, though, he was gifted the first round by Barao, whose strategy was to get timing early, to minimize the only advantage Wineland had - his speed. Barao clearly got the timing.Comment -
What really happen is Wineland barely got clipped on the side of the head and lost balance and had no clue how to protect himself and panic. Renen then cracked him on the chin and Wineland went out after a few more. MD has never admitted he has lost a bet in his life. He always has the right side even in defeat. He always has huge nights but if u read a thread of his u will see him taking a live bet "big" of -700 and losing it and somehow survives this play, to have once again a huge night. It is fascinating math.Questionable knockout of the night.
But to give that a slightly more serious treatment, its a different type of knockout getting hit there than on the chin - he wasn't out cold, no, but the room was spinning and all he was able to do was put his hands around his head as Barao rained down blows. That's not intelligent defense. Not even the turtle position, he was in the face plant position.
More to the point, though, he was gifted the first round by Barao, whose strategy was to get timing early, to minimize the only advantage Wineland had - his speed. Barao clearly got the timing.Comment -
You make both assumptions about how Wineland was feeling after getting hit (hint: he said he was fine, and recovering), and assumptions about why Barao lost the first round. Completely conjecture.Questionable knockout of the night.
But to give that a slightly more serious treatment, its a different type of knockout getting hit there than on the chin - he wasn't out cold, no, but the room was spinning and all he was able to do was put his hands around his head as Barao rained down blows. That's not intelligent defense. Not even the turtle position, he was in the face plant position.
More to the point, though, he was gifted the first round by Barao, whose strategy was to get timing early, to minimize the only advantage Wineland had - his speed. Barao clearly got the timing.
"It won knockout of the night" as justification for a stoppage would be funny if it weren't so bizarre.
You couldn't have fit more lies into three sentences.
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Not justification, just strikes me a funny situation were it to be the case. It certainly conceivably could happen, though it didn't here. That wasn't an argument, it's just a funny concept to me.
Oh well if he said so
Conjecture is what we do here. It's done every time a live bet is made. And my assumptions about why Barao lost the first round were shared by the other viewer with me, Joe Rogan I believe mentioned it live, and Dominick Cruz after the fight.
Honestly, can you tell me you didn't see Barao as finding his range round 1? I guess where you have the money down shades your focus and likely mine, but Joe/Dominick had no money down and saw it that way.Comment -
What I saw was Barao getting out-boxed in round one. "Finding his range" doesn't imply that he's suddenly going to start winning from that point on.Not justification, just strikes me a funny situation were it to be the case. It certainly conceivably could happen, though it didn't here. That wasn't an argument, it's just a funny concept to me.
Oh well if he said so
Conjecture is what we do here. It's done every time a live bet is made. And my assumptions about why Barao lost the first round were shared by the other viewer with me, Joe Rogan I believe mentioned it live, and Dominick Cruz after the fight.
Honestly, can you tell me you didn't see Barao as finding his range round 1? I guess where you have the money down shades your focus and likely mine, but Joe/Dominick had no money down and saw it that way.
Also, on a random note, since you used other people agreeing with your interpretation to justify it (which is idiotic, no offence), I said to Luca Fury that I thought Shields could out-point Maia on the feet yesterday, and his response was to tweet his followers and ask them who the better striker was. He then proceeded to furiously update me every couple of minutes with the running tally as if he was actively proving his opinion. Only on the internet.
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It's what I absolutely love about MD & other's like him. Instead of having a deep moment of self reflection. He lets his "false ego" dictate. He make's poor decision's over & over again. He does not learn from his mistakes. Because "he never makes any mistakes". Instead of admitting he was wrong. Then analyzing how & why he erred. In order to improve his game. Instead he chooses to not acknowledge how or why he lost his money. No matter how many times he tries to explain how his losing bet was actually the "correct play". I always get a grin from ear to ear. My eyes sparkle with delight. And almost every time a tiny chuckle escapes my mouth. Because in the gambling ecosystem. Someone has to be the shark & someone has to be the tuna. And I am always hungry.............Comment -
The facts and nothing but, huh? Even when there's a clear interpretation if you watch it and ask yourself, "what is each fighter's gameplan, how should it play out" Seems like you're refusing to even ask yourself that. But don't you do it when you make live bets?
On a slightly different note, actually Wineland edging out round 1 should encourage you about Barao, who's been in title fights and whose style clearly uses less energy, especially since we've seen Wineland slow down significantly in 3-rounders.
I have some respect for Joe Rogan and Dominick Cruz as analysts (certainly more than a tout's twitter followers, who presumably pay for his services because they themselves don't trust their opinion), and have yet to hear a contrary opinion aside from yours, and have yet to hear an explanation offered from you.Also, on a random note, since you used other people agreeing with your interpretation to justify it (which is idiotic, no offence), I said to Luca Fury that I thought Shields could out-point Maia on the feet yesterday, and his response was to tweet his followers and ask them who the better striker was. He then proceeded to furiously update me every couple of minutes with the running tally as if he was actively proving his opinion. Only on the internet.
Kinda funny, you have yet to explain why Barao threw so few punches if he wasn't finding his range, and because I offered people who agreed with me after explaining my reasoning, you criticize me?Comment -
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You said that. Yea we're all a little self-deceiving, still kinda think Mitrione/Schaub > 1.5 -135 was the right side, even if I underestimated Mitrione's ground game (I had it pretty low, but not low enough).
MD is a little more stubborn than most, though he may be trolling me saying Barao wasn't finding his range.Last edited by Noleafclover; 09-24-13, 02:34 AM.Comment -
she's a hottie in GOT!
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lmao cant stop laughing! you talk about MD having an ego yet you compare yourself to a Shark that feeds off the tuna that is MD in the ecosystem of mma betting? And whats Luca Fury plankton? ahahha that shit is hilarious. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black..lmao
you consider yourself the shark for going huge on massive favorites, tell me, did your heart start racing when the Jury Ricci fight went to the cards you square!!! and if you consider yourself the Shark I must be god in your shitty little ecosystem of mma betting lolLast edited by rosietop; 09-24-13, 04:11 AM.Comment -
They didn't talk about sharks eating chalk at biology classComment
(edit: she does play roles like that, in Tudors and Game of Thrones)