| Austin Trout | +190 | ||||
| 10:30PM | 702 Saul Alvarez | -230 |
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had to make a boxing thread to get those garbage wwe threads off the top of the board. Anyways, Trout is WAY too big and tricky for the CANelo. I like Trout straight up, by decision and also the over. FADE IF YOU DARE!!! -
ha if I was still mod they'd of been salooned a long time ago! Ahh the good ol' dayz
Good match-up...lookin forward to this one, think the value is with Trout as well, may play by decisionComment -
In Ruidoso, Austin Trout pounds daily training routine in preparation for 'Canelo' Alvarez
By Bill Knight/El Paso Times
Posted: 04/07/2013 08:45:02 PM MDT
RUIDOSO - Austin Trout works through each moment, the sweat dripping faster and faster and eventually turning into mini-rivers raging down his face.The solitude and sameness of each day in this small, picturesque, mountain-resort town will be a marked contrast to the crowded, frenetic mayhem in San Antonio.Click photo to enlarge
Las Cruces boxer Austin Trout works out in a Baptist church gym... (Rudy Gutierrez / El Paso times)
Such is a boxer's life.
Trout's training is a relentless partner. Run in the morning. Rest. Force down bland, healthy meals. Train in the afternoon. Work through explosive strength and fitness drills. Only your trainer and coach and sparring partners are your co-pilots.
Work, sweat, work, sweat ... and repeat it all the next day. And the next. And the next.
Trout knows the routine by heart. He has done it so many times now. He knows exactly what is required ... the requirements necessary to reach greatness ... the work and sweat and tears necessary to take that next step in the pursuit of greatness.
The Las Cruces world champion will be taking his biggest step on April 20 - a showdown on a spring Saturday night in San Antonio.
Trout, the WBA world junior middleweight champion, will duel with the enormously popular Saul "Canelo" Alvarez, the WBC world junior middleweight champion ... a 154-pound world unification bout in front of 40,000 in the Alamodome. Trout is 26-0 with 14 knockouts and he is coming off a big, big win, a dominating victory over legendary Miguel Cotto in perhaps the most famous boxing venue in the world, New York's Madison Square
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Garden. Alvarez is 41-0-1 with 30 knockouts and he is not only the darling of Mexico, he is also the darling of most Mexican-American fight fans.Trout broke into an easy smile as his long-time trainer Louie Burke went through the daily process of wrapping his fighter's hands with care. It was quiet inside the First Baptist Church gym as the men get ready for work.
"I feel like I'm right on schedule," the 27-year-old Trout said. "Last camp, I was ahead of schedule. I'm feeling good ... definitely in shape. My legs are recovering just a bit; all part of the process."
Trout has steadily climbed the world boxing ladder. It has been a difficult climb from Las Cruces. Fights have always been hard to come by. Each and every one of Trout's fans knows his journey. He fearlessly went on the road to fight a Panamanian in Panama, a Canadian in Canada, more than one tough Mexican fighter in Mexico. He then went into Cotto's backyard, to an arena filled with Puerto Rican fans, and put a whipping on the future Hall of Famer - winning 117-111 on two judge's cards, winning 119-109 on the third card.
Trout moved to the top of that boxing ladder. And this fight could put him among the world's elite.
"The Cotto fight put Austin at a completely different level," Burke said. "This fight will shoot him through the roof. The whole world will take notice of how great Austin really is. It should put him in with the elite fighters on the pound-for-pound list (the longtime boxing list that names the top fighters in the world, regardless of weight class)."
The skinny kid from Las Cruces has gotten better and better over the years. He had that much publicized amateur career, beginning at age 10, posting a 160-45 record and winning the Olympic Trials. He lost a subsequent box-off and went to Athens as an Olympic alternate in 2004. He has had magnificent success and handled it well. He handled his disappointment well, too.
"I thought I should have been fighting in the Olympics," he said with a smile and a shrug. "But things happen for a reason. God has a plan. I guess I got the Olympic experience without having the pressure of the Olympics."
The air is cool and thin here. The deer saunter fearlessly up to the condominiums in the early afternoon when everyone is trying to grab a little rest. The deer make short work of an orange and a banana tossed their way ... then calmly wander away in search of other treasures.
Trout has been training hard, working with Burke and his athletic performance specialist Shukree Shabazz.
"We try different things to keep it fresh," said Shabazz, a longtime friend and former New Mexico State football player. "I look at it as trying to put the best athlete in there on April 20. It's like a pyramid. You have to build. But Austin's grown so much over the years you have to keep adding to get the pyramid just right. I think Austin is really feeling his power now. He knows it's coming over the course of a fight and not just one-punch power like (Rocky) Marciano or (George) Foreman. It's athletic power and Austin is definitely a stronger fighter."
The clouds float in as the day drones on, playing hide-and-seek with the sun in this high altitude getaway.
The days also include moments of video study, looking for just the right moves to counter Alvarez ... to counter him in every possible way. It is simply all part of a day at the office for the fighter. The days drag on, one after the other - more work, more sweat, more rest and repeat - over and over and over.
Trout and Burke climb into the ring ... Trout working the mitts against Burke ... a fistic ballet they have danced together for years. On this day, though, they are working specific techniques, things geared strictly for Alvarez, strictly for center ring in the Alamodome, strictly for that sensational Saturday night in San Antonio.
"On the one hand, we have tried to keep things on an even keel," Burke said. "Just another fight. Why should we do things differently? They've worked. I think Austin will plateau or peak at the right moment. Canelo is a very explosive fighter. But, he doesn't get enough credit for being a natural boxer, a natural counter puncher. He has a good jab, a nice uppercut. There are a few things we see we feel we can capitalize on. But the kid (Alvarez) is very sound.
"Cotto was shorter," Burke said. "He had to get inside. Canelo is more boxer, more counter puncher. He is taller (than Cotto), but not as tall as Austin."
Team Trout - Trout, Burke, Shabazz, camp coordinator Moose Gomez and sparring partner Donyil Livingston (the other sparring partner Abie Han is upstairs studying) - leans over the dining room table, intently studying a video of Alvarez on a small laptop. They watch, react - Trout and Burke occasionally throwing air punches, mimicking what needs to be done - rewind, watch, react and watch a bit more.
"We are keeping the same formula as the camp for Cotto," Trout said. "Cotto is a great fighter. Canelo is quicker, stronger, bigger. But I'm still the bigger man and I feel I will be the faster man."
Once again - yet one more tough time - Trout will walk into the arena as the other guy ... as the opponent. The bulk of the adoring crowd will be cheering and pleading for Alvarez to win this dance.
"It's fine," he said with a smile and a shrug. "Again. Once again I'm the B side. But, in my mind, I'm the A side. I'll make that walk and it will be great. I'll be nervous. It's the same every time. Nervous and the adrenaline kicking in. Hey, if I'm not nervous before a fight, something's wrong. But once that first bell sounds, it's time to go to work. It's just part of the whole process. And I enjoy the whole process."
Certainly, part of this process is the training camp - the hard work that gets replicated day after day after day. Gomez, who grew up with Burke, is always there, always on the perimeter, always taking care of the details, always making sure Trout and Burke and the rest of the team can do their jobs.
"We are all great friends here and we all have a common goal - that Austin is successful," Gomez said. "Austin works so hard and he is a genuinely good guy. There is no jealousy in the camp. I just try to take care of the little details, so the guys can concentrate on the bigger picture. I make sure the sparring partners get in here. I make the doctor appointments, the eye checkups. This camp has really gone well and Austin is on track. He really looks good."
The work continues day after day after day. The cool afternoons turn into chilly evenings, occasionally leaving a morning frost.
Austin Trout lives this life ... this boxer's life, a life that goes from solitude to madness in a moment. He is preparing meticulously for that moment of madness.
"It's all part of the journey," he said softly. "When you are going through the journey, you sometimes ask why. But God is never late. This journey is not on my time, it's on God's time. The road to this moment has been a long one. I had a good amateur career, but I had to go the hard way. When things aren't going my way, I've had to make them go my way. Canelo is knocking everybody out in front of him. Let's see what happens when things aren't going his way."
The moment is growing near. The days are tumbling atop days, the sameness - both tiresome and necessary - as the work continues ... continues in this small, picturesque, mountain-resort town ... all leading to that heart pounding moment in San Antonio when Trout and Alvarez step into that squared off jungle they call a boxing ring and thousands roar.
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I was contemplating a play on Trout as well, waiting to see what happens to the line though...Comment -
In San Antonio on 4/20. Will be a home court for canelo and the rowdy Mexicans will be in top form. Still undecided personally.Comment -
Yeah he looked like a can last night... Great call jackass!Comment -
Trout won easy, you mexican scumComment -
one judge gave CANelo the first round. He is a trash boxer that needs widespread corruption to protect him because he looks white. Im embarrassed for mexico. Fight is not close without the knock down and trout won the rest of the round. Your gif is funny. Because Trout landed the only punch in that exchange and won it. CANelo landed like 8 punches a round.
Trout landed and threw more in a fixed fight that was decided before the fight started. If you cant see the corruption in the scoring and how the open score card changed the fight because Trout needed a knock out instead of closing out a solid performance I cant help you.
The only thing that was a lie was the fight. It was decided before it started. This isnt some conspiracy. The f-cking announcers talked about it many times. I will never bet on a fight in Texas again. Scumbags.Last edited by sideloaded; 04-21-13, 04:18 PM.Comment -
...I'm mexican and saw trout win the fight, we need to get rid of that scumbag sulaiman, he is all in for canelo, he was putting all the belts on canelo before the decision was givenComment -
The WBA must be all in on Canelo, too.
They also threw their belt on Canelo before Jimmy Lennon announced the winner. And they only had one official assigned to the fight, yet he had the most lopsided scorecard.Comment -
Oh my another fight where everyone knows who is the better fighter but there fighter loses the decision? In the gambling world Nah. Only way Trout was winning this fight was by a knockout just like Larkin and Melendez in MMA. Two other fighters who got shafted especially Larkin. What did these three have in common? The three biggest bet fighters of the night. (Trout, Larkin, and Melendez) All book wins and all public losers. Tough to beat rigged judging. Didn't get to see this fight tho but by the comments earlier in the month i knew there was no way in the world Trout could win a decision.Comment -
Also, some of you guys are being a tad bit ridiculous. Trout couldn't win a decision after round eight. Of course they were putting the belts on Alvarez.Comment -
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Question for bettors out there:
If this season the NFL changes their rules so that a touchdown scores 1 point, but the extra point is now worth 6 instead. Are we better serviced by:
A) Complaining that the old way was better.
or
B) Start accumulating stats on kickers.Comment -
Last edited by NunyaBidness; 04-21-13, 07:29 PM. Reason: Wrote that before I got to 2:00 when it admitted it actually was a woman!Comment -
first of all i didn't bet the fight or see it. I was just going off what i read in this thread. I know earlier in the week a lot of guys like Trout and were worried about getting fuked by a shit decision just like i was with Larkin knowing full well if it went to a decision he would lose because the line was a joke and guys were baited into it. That is why i passed on the Larking fight. You understand yet?Comment -
You are so awful at reading lines and a perfect mark for a book that it is sad. To think anyone was betting that below average fighter in Carmont just shows what a joke you are. You remind me of the jackasses on the other site where i use to show them which nba games would be rigged and they would cry all the time to the moderators because i was hurting their feelings. Sure enuf a Ref gets pinched and they still wouldn't say i was right about the games being rigged. They believed Stern when he said Donaghy was the only one fixing them.
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Canelo won the fight 7-5. Scores were B.S. but decision is good.Comment -
Press Row all had it for Canelo and while it was closer than some of the judges had it even Trout admitted he got out classed. Keep crying loser.Comment -
you're a bumComment -
Canelo was the clear winner. I actually did put down a bet on him, thinking the judges would favor him. They judges did favor him, though only one score really seemed implausible to me. Canelo landed the cleaner, more effective punches. His aggression was more effective. His defense was better. Generalship was a toss up at best. Canelo got the KD. That's what fights are scored on.
Also, listen to what Nunya is trying to tell you. Don't cry over spilled milk. When someone hands a 4-year-old with greasy hands the glass, bet on spilled milk. This is why I think Scott over Glazkov might be the dumbest bet I've posted here, though Scott "won." In any case, the more you look at this one, the more it's clearly a Canelo win.
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wow, you managed to post all the punches CANelo landed in 4 gifs, great job. Out thrown and out landed. Lost the rest of the round he got a knock down in. Coasted because fight was over after 8.
CANelo is trash.Comment -
It's called boxing not punching for a reason. Fight was corrupt.
CompuBox ShoStats Report
Saul Alvarez W 12 Austin Trout
04/20/2013 San Antonio, TX
Trout was busier, but Alvarez's power punching and defense (only 20% landed by Trout) was the difference in the fight. Canelo landed 43% of his power shots.
Total Punches Landed / Thrown
Jabs Landed / ThrownRound 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 Alvarez 3/22 10/34 12/33 10/37 6/33 9/38 16/49 6/28 15/42 8/32 16/54 13/29 14% 29% 36% 27% 18% 24% 33% 21% 36% 25% 30% 45% Trout 9/42 8/50 10/59 11/50 12/62 19/87 15/69 14/59 13/66 15/79 11/69 17/77 21% 16% 17% 22% 19% 22% 22% 24% 20% 19% 16% 22%
Power Punches Landed / ThrownRound 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 Alvarez 1/8 3/22 5/14 5/26 2/22 1/15 0/12 3/18 3/19 0/10 4/29 1/12 12% 14% 36% 19% 9% 7% 0% 17% 16% 0% 14% 8% Trout 8/34 4/34 5/43 5/31 7/36 6/40 4/34 4/33 4/35 4/30 5/35 3/31 24% 12% 12% 16% 19% 15% 12% 12% 11% 13% 14% 10%
Final PunchStat ReportRound 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 Alvarez 2/14 7/12 7/19 5/11 4/11 8/23 16/37 3/10 12/23 8/22 12/25 12/17 14% 58% 37% 45% 36% 35% 43% 30% 52% 36% 48% 71% Trout 1/8 4/16 5/16 6/19 5/26 13/47 11/35 10/26 9/31 11/49 6/34 14/46 12% 25% 31% 32% 19% 28% 31% 38% 29% 22% 18% 30%
Total Punches Jabs Power Punches Alvarez 124 / 431 28 / 207 96 / 224 29% 14% 43% Trout 154 / 769 59 / 416 95 / 353 20% 14% 27% Comment -
cor·rupt
/kəˈrəpt/
Adjective
Having or showing a willingness to act dishonestly in return for money or personal gain. Verb
Cause to act dishonestly in return for money or personal gain. Synonyms
adjective. rotten - depraved - venal - bad - putrid verb. spoil - pervert - deprave - vitiate - rot - debauch Comment -
I dont care is CANelo did win, fight was a farce after the 8th round because trout was already robbed and needed a KO completely changing the end of the fight.
If I was CANelo I would be pissed, because of getting a clean solid win, It's clear to everyone he enganged in a fixed fight with open scoring completely changing the last half of the fight. CANelo gases like crazy and under sporting rules Trout would have closed out that fight for a clear decision.After eight rounds, I had the fight 76-75 for Trout while Scott Christ of Bad Left Hook had the fight 77-74 for Trout. The judges, however, had Canelo up 80-71, 78-73 and 76-75. This meant that one judge had not seen a single round to give to Trout in a very competitive fight.
The official cards when the final bell rang were 115-112, 116-111 and 118-109.
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118-109. in a fight you are landing 8 punches a round. You are intellectually dishonest saying CANelo won.Comment
