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  • sideloaded
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-21-10
    • 7561

    #36
    you f-ckers dont even watch boxing. Where the f-ck were you in my thread giving out isaac chilemba at +205 and then he was robbed? Motherf-ckers are pieces of shit just hating on +190 loser. F_ck every single one of you.




    Exposed as dumb f-cks, why aren't you defending that robbery too?

    F-ck this place, and all you know it all f\*g-ots. Dont even watch boxing. Disgraceful.
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    • Boxscout
      SBR High Roller
      • 12-20-12
      • 222

      #37
      Originally posted by sideloaded
      wow, you managed to post all the punches CANelo landed in 4 gifs, great job.
      They typified what happened. What were some of the big shots Trout landed? How come nobody is making similar gif's of Trout's dominant moments? He had some good stretches and decent rounds and is an excellent fighter. It was competitive. But Canelo's quality was superior on at least 3 criteria and it was arguable on the other. The more you look at the fight, the more clear it is.

      Out thrown and out landed. Lost the rest of the round he got a knock down in. Coasted because fight was over after 8.
      It's not the amateurs. Throwing twice as much and landing slightly more doesn't guarantee a win, especially if much of what you land is glancing, partially blocked and/or not powerful. The last punch in the last gif, that Canelo rolled off is probably a punch landed for Trout but it doesn't mean much. Contrast that to the heavy jab, powerful jab in the first gif that moves Trout back.

      True, Canelo coasted a bit, especially in 12. Because he knew the score. He did what football, basketball and soccer teams do and ran out the clock. But that also means one of Trout's rounds was pretty much meaningless. Open scoring stinks.

      As for the 7th round, here it is. Canelo wobbles Trout again and lands several more clean punches after the KD. It's fairly close after the KD. If you are suggesting it could be 10-9, you are wrong.

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      • sideloaded
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 08-21-10
        • 7561

        #38
        Originally posted by Boxscout
        They typified what happened. What were some of the big shots Trout landed? How come nobody is making similar gif's of Trout's dominant moments? He had some good stretches and decent rounds and is an excellent fighter. It was competitive. But Canelo's quality was superior on at least 3 criteria and it was arguable on the other. The more you look at the fight, the more clear it is.


        It's not the amateurs. Throwing twice as much and landing slightly more doesn't guarantee a win, especially if much of what you land is glancing, partially blocked and/or not powerful. The last punch in the last gif, that Canelo rolled off is probably a punch landed for Trout but it doesn't mean much. Contrast that to the heavy jab, powerful jab in the first gif that moves Trout back.

        True, Canelo coasted a bit, especially in 12. Because he knew the score. He did what football, basketball and soccer teams do and ran out the clock. But that also means one of Trout's rounds was pretty much meaningless. Open scoring stinks.

        As for the 7th round, here it is. Canelo wobbles Trout again and lands several more clean punches after the KD. It's fairly close after the KD. If you are suggesting it could be 10-9, you are wrong.

        GTFO your picks are horrible BTW.
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        • sideloaded
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 08-21-10
          • 7561

          #39
          Originally posted by Boxscout
          They typified what happened. What were some of the big shots Trout landed? How come nobody is making similar gif's of Trout's dominant moments?
          because zombie prophet is some disabled mexican with ass cancer that likes to pirate shit and slap his logo on things. I could make a 100 trout gifs. But I dont give a f-ck about anyone on SBR and will no longer be posting.

          DId you think toney bellew won too? why not white knight him? Not sexy or gay enough for you?
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          • Boxscout
            SBR High Roller
            • 12-20-12
            • 222

            #40
            Well, anyway, best of luck with whatever has got you into this state. Your women's mma picks have made me a bit of money so I hope you keep posting them. But if you really are just melting down over stuff on this board, then you should stop reading it for a while.
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            • MD
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 01-31-12
              • 9728

              #41
              Originally posted by Boxscout
              Well, anyway, best of luck with whatever has got you into this state. Your women's mma picks have made me a bit of money so I hope you keep posting them. But if you really are just melting down over stuff on this board, then you should stop reading it for a while.
              Loader's just got strong opinions. Wouldn't worry too much about it, I think he has a point in regards to the Trout fight though, but so do you. I don't see how anyone can think there's no argument for a Trout victory.
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              • NunyaBidness
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 07-26-09
                • 9345

                #42
                Originally posted by sideloaded
                But I dont give a f-ck about anyone on SBR and will no longer be posting.
                And I was just warming up to you. Sent you a friend request and everything.
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                • bobby heenan
                  SBR MVP
                  • 03-20-09
                  • 4120

                  #43
                  Originally posted by sideloaded
                  because zombie prophet is some disabled mexican with ass cancer that likes to pirate shit and slap his logo on things. I could make a 100 trout gifs. But I dont give a f-ck about anyone on SBR and will no longer be posting.

                  DId you think toney bellew won too? why not white knight him? Not sexy or gay enough for you?
                  listen pal...weve all been on the losing side of a +$ figther that has gotten robbed or won....its not like all we do is bet faves...i can think of taking marco huck against povetkin....delvin rod against wolak....or froch at home against bute....whatever.....it aint about that anymore...its over

                  bottom line is....floyd against canelo.....whats the take? i would never bet agaisnt money.....and i still wouldnt....and i bet the line would be generous towards floyd backers.....he puts on a few lbs and watches this guy gas out as he dominates.....
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                  • bringbacklife
                    SBR Hustler
                    • 09-11-12
                    • 52

                    #44
                    Originally posted by bobby heenan
                    listen pal...weve all been on the losing side of a +$ figther that has gotten robbed or won....its not like all we do is bet faves...i can think of taking marco huck against povetkin....delvin rod against wolak....or froch at home against bute....whatever.....it aint about that anymore...its over

                    bottom line is....floyd against canelo.....whats the take? i would never bet agaisnt money.....and i still wouldnt....and i bet the line would be generous towards floyd backers.....he puts on a few lbs and watches this guy gas out as he dominates.....
                    floyd too slick and his stamina is crazy!
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                    • Thor4140
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 02-09-08
                      • 22296

                      #45
                      Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                      If you KNEW these things you would be betting on them. Your hindsight analysis is of no use.
                      Ihave made a living betting this way and surviving because the majority of people think like you. I can go on multiple sites and say one thing and have a thousand views in a few days. You are just an unreachable clown who probably wears your sports jersey out on a Friday night, Of course after talking to your favorite sports radio talk show host u waited an hour on the phone line to finally get to talk too. The things i have said on certain sites that have come true would make your head spin but when a guy is unreachable you learn to ignore them. That will be the case now.
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                      • NunyaBidness
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 07-26-09
                        • 9345

                        #46
                        Originally posted by Thor4140
                        Ihave made a living betting this way and surviving because the majority of people think like you. I can go on multiple sites and say one thing and have a thousand views in a few days. You are just an unreachable clown who probably wears your sports jersey out on a Friday night, Of course after talking to your favorite sports radio talk show host u waited an hour on the phone line to finally get to talk too. The things i have said on certain sites that have come true would make your head spin but when a guy is unreachable you learn to ignore them. That will be the case now.
                        Your reading comprehension is incredibly low.

                        As I've stated here dozens of times. I've never watched a sporting event in my life. I don't even know the rules to football, Bet 7 figures on it last year.

                        I don't give a shit about sports, it's just numbers to me.

                        Keep on talking Nostrodumbass.
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                        • gabe
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 09-12-11
                          • 7405

                          #47
                          Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                          Your reading comprehension is incredibly low.

                          As I've stated here dozens of times. I've never watched a sporting event in my life. I don't even know the rules to football, Bet 7 figures on it last year.

                          I don't give a shit about sports, it's just numbers to me.

                          Keep on talking Nostrodumbass.
                          You bet a million dollars on football? Jesus Christ, send me 1k to sponsor my bankroll and every time I post my plays I will say "This play is brought to you by NUNYA'S THUGLIFE ORGANIZATION."
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                          • Rubber Guard
                            SBR MVP
                            • 06-22-11
                            • 1550

                            #48
                            It is always fixed when you are the loser.
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                            • gabe
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 09-12-11
                              • 7405

                              #49
                              Originally posted by Rubber Guard
                              It is always fixed when you are the loser.
                              True, degenerate gamblers often say sh!t is fixed, but you're silly to think that no fights are ever fixed. Some decisions are clearly fixed, there is no other excuse for it. Sometimes saying judges don't know how to score just doesn't cut it because some fights are clearly one sided and the decision goes the other way. Before the fix was in, they weren't certain it would be such a one sided fight, but all the money is already at stake and they can't back out. They put the wrong scores in, the loser wins the fight, and they collect their money. What's the down side for them? People call them "incompetent" on twitter for 10 minutes and then they're scoring another card within the same month.
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                              • JoshB
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 03-24-11
                                • 354

                                #50
                                it was a typical quantity vs quality fight..it was close.

                                you had canelo throwing much less but clearly landing the cleanest most damaging shots & then you had trout who lets his hands go alot more but did alot of missing & when he did land they were very weak shots.

                                canelo winning is not a robbery. but the 118/109 scorecard was a disgrace.
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                                • JoshB
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 03-24-11
                                  • 354

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by sideloaded
                                  It's called boxing not punching for a reason. Fight was corrupt.


                                  CompuBox ShoStats Report
                                  Saul Alvarez W 12 Austin Trout
                                  04/20/2013 San Antonio, TX

                                  Trout was busier, but Alvarez's power punching and defense (only 20% landed by Trout) was the difference in the fight. Canelo landed 43% of his power shots.
                                  Total Punches Landed / Thrown
                                  Round 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
                                  Alvarez 3/22 10/34 12/33 10/37 6/33 9/38 16/49 6/28 15/42 8/32 16/54 13/29
                                  14% 29% 36% 27% 18% 24% 33% 21% 36% 25% 30% 45%
                                  Trout 9/42 8/50 10/59 11/50 12/62 19/87 15/69 14/59 13/66 15/79 11/69 17/77
                                  21% 16% 17% 22% 19% 22% 22% 24% 20% 19% 16% 22%
                                  Jabs Landed / Thrown
                                  Round 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
                                  Alvarez 1/8 3/22 5/14 5/26 2/22 1/15 0/12 3/18 3/19 0/10 4/29 1/12
                                  12% 14% 36% 19% 9% 7% 0% 17% 16% 0% 14% 8%
                                  Trout 8/34 4/34 5/43 5/31 7/36 6/40 4/34 4/33 4/35 4/30 5/35 3/31
                                  24% 12% 12% 16% 19% 15% 12% 12% 11% 13% 14% 10%
                                  Power Punches Landed / Thrown
                                  Round 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
                                  Alvarez 2/14 7/12 7/19 5/11 4/11 8/23 16/37 3/10 12/23 8/22 12/25 12/17
                                  14% 58% 37% 45% 36% 35% 43% 30% 52% 36% 48% 71%
                                  Trout 1/8 4/16 5/16 6/19 5/26 13/47 11/35 10/26 9/31 11/49 6/34 14/46
                                  12% 25% 31% 32% 19% 28% 31% 38% 29% 22% 18% 30%
                                  Final PunchStat Report

                                  Total Punches Jabs Power Punches
                                  Alvarez 124 / 431 28 / 207 96 / 224
                                  29% 14% 43%
                                  Trout 154 / 769 59 / 416 95 / 353
                                  20% 14% 27%
                                  compubox doesn't take into account the quality of the punches & alot of times it marks down missed shots as landing.

                                  i rememer when joe calzaghe defeated hopkins, the stats showed that calzaghe landed more punches on hopkins then any opponent had in compuox history.

                                  & sports sites like espn would say that (with a very serious tone of voice) like hopkins took way too much damage & that it was probably time for the old man to hang em up..

                                  but guess what? hopkins didn't even take any real damage! cause for the whole fight joe calslappy just kept chasing hopkins around throwing hundreds & hundreds of slaps ( 90% of which missed) & walking into clean counters many times. compubox is flawed dude...so just cause you post a bunch of their #'s doesn't mean your right.
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