The highly cerebral bets of Sacrelicious

**Sacrelicious** · 06-23-13, 03:34 AM

Originally posted by Dwil125

lol im not sure about grant, but I added Barnett at -221. How do you see Barnett winning? Decision?

Decision.

Mir has the ability to sub out anyone, so you can never count him out completely. That being said, Barnett went five long and hard rounds against DC, I just see him out working and out pacing mir on the feet in dominant fashion, especially after mir gasses 3 minutes into rd 1. Even if it goes to the ground, barnett can hold his own. -230 is a ridiculously good price.

**Vaughany** · 06-23-13, 03:35 AM

My boiii Murrr has got this

**Sacrelicious** · 06-23-13, 03:42 AM

I'm surprised more people aren't all over kennedy here..

**PunisherIND** · 06-23-13, 09:04 AM

Originally posted by Vaughany

My boiii Murrr has got this

Vaughany are you being sarcastic? I actually think this will be close. Had to play murr at +250. barnett hasn't beaten any quality opponent in over 5 years. Doubt he can sub mir, and his striking isnt that impressive. I think this will be competitive and likely goes to the cards.

**Vaughany** · 06-23-13, 09:07 AM

Originally posted by PunisherIND

Vaughany are you being sarcastic? I actually think this will be close. Had to play murr at +250. barnett hasn't beaten any quality opponent in over 5 years. Doubt he can sub mir, and his striking isnt that impressive. I think this will be competitive and likely goes to the cards.

ha no. I was waiting for him to get nearer +300 as everybody seems to be writing him off. Now gone back down to +180 or something now

Hopefully be back at +250 to +275 range by fight time. Agree with what you said, for me Barnett doesnt have the striking to trouble Mir like previous opponents who have beaten Mir had

**Dwil125** · 06-23-13, 09:26 AM

Originally posted by MD

If you don't know much about Barnett, you probably shouldn't pay -230 on a heavyweight fight.

That said, I do think Barnett should win pretty easily here. Watch some of his recent fights and see what you think.

I know who he is and his recent fights obviously lol. I just don't know much about him prior to like 2009, or what opponents he's faced, where he's currently training etc.

**Dwil125** · 06-23-13, 09:32 AM

Tossed him into a 3 teamer with minakov and king mo. Should be a good match up for Barnett if he doesn't get taken down

**PunisherIND** · 06-23-13, 10:09 AM

Originally posted by Dwil125

I know who he is and his recent fights obviously lol. I just don't know much about him prior to like 2009, or what opponents he's faced, where he's currently training etc.

barnett built his reputation as a top 10 HW from his pride days. thats pre-2007. he trains catch wrestling with erik paulson. all of his recent wins were against guys with non-existent grappling defense. pretty much tailor made to get sub'd. e.g., sergei kharitonov, brett rogers. and those were the better opponents.

**Vaughany** · 06-23-13, 02:47 PM

Yee he jus hasnt evolved since those days as far as i can see. At least mir has changed up his camp and getting out of his comfort zone

**Grabaka** · 06-23-13, 02:50 PM

penetrating hell! i cant believe im on Mur. I feel dirty

**Beelzebubzy** · 06-23-13, 03:41 PM

If your on mir you are hoping he can keep this standing to out strike him or catch a flash ko punch, Barnett has a great chin and better wrestling.

Mir also looks shopworn and his chin is fading

**Vaughany** · 06-23-13, 03:59 PM

Beelze has stepped up his game with tht avatar.

I shall have to Conditize mine as well me thinks!

**The iron sheik** · 06-23-13, 04:03 PM

Originally posted by PunisherIND

barnett built his reputation as a top 10 HW from his pride days. thats pre-2007. he trains catch wrestling with erik paulson. all of his recent wins were against guys with non-existent grappling defense. pretty much tailor made to get sub'd. e.g., sergei kharitonov, brett rogers. and those were the better opponents.

While it's not about making silly lists from arbitrary years picked, if you look at the same timeframe with Murrr it's not exactly a glorious list of impressive wins either. I don't know, even in the DC loss I think Barnett looked better than Mir has in a decade.

**Vaughany** · 06-23-13, 04:16 PM

Originally posted by The iron sheik

While it's not about making silly lists from arbitrary years picked, if you look at the same timeframe with Murrr it's not exactly a glorious list of impressive wins either. I don't know, even in the DC loss I think Barnett looked better than Mir has in a decade.

Cormier had a broken hand during that Barnett fight yet still managed to pick him up and dump him on his head! Tht was crazzzy

**Beelzebubzy** · 06-23-13, 05:09 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Beelze has stepped up his game with tht avatar.

I shall have to Conditize mine as well me thinks!

I am a shitty capper but a top 2000 sbr avatar poster

#MalinAkermanBoobs

**mmaed** · 06-23-13, 05:12 PM

Mir can outstrike barnett. Barnett has a shot at outwrestling mir. I wouldnt be shocked if barnett wasnt scared to sit in Mirs guard and maintain top position. Barnett is a talented grappler in his own right.

**PunisherIND** · 06-23-13, 05:20 PM

Originally posted by The iron sheik

While it's not about making silly lists from arbitrary years picked, if you look at the same timeframe with Murrr it's not exactly a glorious list of impressive wins either. I don't know, even in the DC loss I think Barnett looked better than Mir has in a decade.

arbitrary years picked? Lol. you dont think recent fights are more relevant than fights from 2006?

**The iron sheik** · 06-23-13, 06:47 PM

Originally posted by PunisherIND

arbitrary years picked? Lol. you dont think recent fights are more relevant than fights from 2006?

no one said that, but the point still stands. 2008 is just about "recent" as 2006 or "pre-2007", I assume you said that because of his year off.. is. Perhaps in this instance it's kind of suitable to draw the line there since Barnett had that year off but otherwise ...

whatever though, point still kind of stands since Mir's biggest wins in that timeframe aren't anything to write home about if you consider how they came into effect.

**PunisherIND** · 06-23-13, 08:42 PM

Originally posted by The iron sheik

no one said that, but the point still stands. 2008 is just about "recent" as 2006 or "pre-2007", I assume you said that because of his year off.. is. Perhaps in this instance it's kind of suitable to draw the line there since Barnett had that year off but otherwise ...

whatever though, point still kind of stands since Mir's biggest wins in that timeframe aren't anything to write home about if you consider how they came into effect.

The reason I mentioned "pre-2007" was in connection with the statement that barnetts reputation as a top hw comes from his pride days. That's all.

**PunisherIND** · 06-23-13, 09:19 PM

Originally posted by The iron sheik

whatever though, point still kind of stands since Mir's biggest wins in that timeframe aren't anything to write home about if you consider how they came into effect.

i think you are overlooking the fact that mir's fought the better competition, by far, in the last few years. thats an important consideration in itself. as far as wins, say what you will about "how they came into effect". i agree some of the wins could be considered "fluky". but how do you even compare wins against brock, kongo, mirko, big nog x2, fat roy, to sergei kharitonov and brett rogers?

**PunisherIND** · 06-23-13, 09:34 PM

Originally posted by Grabaka

penetrating hell! i cant believe im on Mur. I feel dirty

lol i hate myself for it

**mirinquads** · 06-24-13, 05:15 AM

Muuuuurrr is getting Muuuuurrrrked.

He looked legitimately awful in the Cormier fight. Barnett isnt as good of a wrestler as Cormier, but if it was that easy for Cormier to press him against the fence, I believe Barnett wont have much trouble either. He will dictate where the fight goes without much problem. Mir has slow striking and a deteriorating chin (Not as bad as it's been made out to be though).

**Sacrelicious** · 06-24-13, 07:47 AM

Egdar straight up witll be closing all of my parlays for the last couple months, a 2 teamer with cain, 2 teamer with DC, and a 5 teamer with klitsch itd, mayweather dec, belfort itd and cain (+550, woot!). Also will have swanson and edgar closing a 4 teamer with JDS -3.5 and glover.

**Sacrelicious** · 06-24-13, 07:50 AM

As for straight bets, small on edgar itd +145, large on kennedy -120, moderate weidman itd +390, large on barnett -230.

Waiting to see if can get a good line on edgar -3.5.

Also a new 4 teamer with mighty mouse, machida, aldo and jones. Pays evens, I think its a great price.

**goodfellas433** · 06-24-13, 07:53 AM

Originally posted by Sacrelicious

Egdar straight up witll be closing all of my parlays for the last couple months, a 2 teamer with cain, 2 teamer with DC, and a 5 teamer with klitsch itd, mayweather dec, belfort itd and cain (+550, woot!). Also will have swanson and edgar closing a 4 teamer with JDS -3.5 and glover.

Fantastic plays. Wish I had those going .... I have no open parlays right now, I need to start putting in work
I am kind of surprised people are on Mir here. Mir has made me some big money through the years, but I don't like
Him at all vs Barnett.

**Sacrelicious** · 06-24-13, 08:01 AM

Hard to believe the machida line is actually improving as well, I just hit it again.

Only way I realistically see phil davis winning is bad judging.

**Dwil125** · 06-24-13, 10:28 AM

Originally posted by Sacrelicious

Egdar straight up witll be closing all of my parlays for the last couple months, a 2 teamer with cain, 2 teamer with DC, and a 5 teamer with klitsch itd, mayweather dec, belfort itd and cain (+550, woot!). Also will have swanson and edgar closing a 4 teamer with JDS -3.5 and glover.

Same here man, edgar straight up is the anchor for everything for me right now. I'm small on edgar by decision and I'm also waiting on the point spread to cover my decision bet.

**Sacrelicious** · 06-24-13, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by Dwil125

Same here man, edgar straight up is the anchor for everything for me right now. I'm small on edgar by decision and I'm also waiting on the point spread to cover my decision bet.

Diverging with you slightly, I'm on edgar itd +145 but only small. My concern with the point spread is that given the line movement on edgar, it may actually be for a worse price than I was able to get for edgar when I bet him initially, but fingers crossed.

**Sacrelicious** · 06-24-13, 01:09 PM

**Sacrelicious** · 06-29-13, 05:52 PM

Cena -750

Del Rio +175

Daniel Bryan -210

**Sacrelicious** · 06-29-13, 07:32 PM

Dang, jumped the gun on daniel bryan, he is up to -160 now, ah well.

I got a really strong lean for the other MITB match as well, just need to wait to see what they do on raw next week.

**Sacrelicious** · 06-29-13, 08:05 PM

Was NOT expecting daniel bryan's line to improve. Folks, we might actually get plus money on him, I just did a maxi bet at -120.

This is by no means a "lock", or even close to it, but at plus money I think its a good play for a maxi bet.

**Sacrelicious** · 06-29-13, 08:07 PM

Should add, this is a difficult card to predict, I'm not going nuts on any of these plays. I hit all 3 of my posted plays for a maxi bet, and hit db for a second maxi bet.

MD · 06-29-13, 08:07 PM

I'm going to bet on the other guy, penetrate you Sac.

**Sacrelicious** · 06-29-13, 08:09 PM

Originally posted by MD

I'm going to bet on the other guy, penetrate you Sac.

Bahaha, fair enough. I think I lost a lot of my cred when I absolutely train wrecked that goddamn tna card...

I'm not going too crazy on this card to be honest.