Recent Experiences with BetCoin

[thagame24]

Very interesting thread. I've never played here, I'm in the USA. Is it still "fine" for USA players to play here with a vpn?

[raiders72001]

Betcoin has a racebook for the Derby if anyone wants to horse bet in crypto.

[raiders72001]

Even more importantly is that Betcoin will have the best line on one side or the other. Betcoin's live betting is the best out there.

[raiders72001]

[raiders72001]

Was looking for an Online book who will hold the account value as a BTC-denominated balance.

Betcoin qualifies on that front. But the juice looks too fat. > 20-cent juice.

I'm looking for -108/-108 type lines. Something like 16-cent juice. Thx for any suggestions!

Go to their Gamebetr book. They were even tighter in the NFL.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

Was looking for an Online book who will hold the account value as a BTC-denominated balance.

Betcoin qualifies on that front. But the juice looks too fat. > 20-cent juice.

I'm looking for -108/-108 type lines. Something like 16-cent juice. Thx for any suggestions!

[noflexzone]

I'm not sure either but they have two books listed on the site with different lines. One is Betcoin and the other Gamebetr. They added poker and are US friendly.

Agreed, would be nice to know who their odds provider is for better tracking.

[raiders72001]

It looks like they aren't a Pinnacle skin anymore - not sure what they are now.

I'm not sure either but they have two books listed on the site with different lines. One is Betcoin and the other Gamebetr. They added poker and are US friendly.

I was wrong about the VPN. It's fine to use a VPN. It just makes it easier so that you're never accused of using multiple accounts.

[noflexzone]

It looks like they aren't a Pinnacle skin anymore - not sure what they are now.

[raiders72001]

They aren't a Pinnacle skin but they run two books from the same site so there are two sets of lines and limits. You'll be fine playing there from the US. They are a no KYC book as long as you aren't using a VPN.

[crinkledaces]

I tried to open an account... They said they dont offer business from the US.

[crinkledaces]

This is a Pinnicle skin?

[raiders72001]

Most books aren't going to put up prop bets on players if they aren't sure they'll start. They had player props up early.

[raiders72001]

Player props are nice. Have Love over 5.5 points, went to 6.5.




In NHL for tomorrow 188 markets.

[raiders72001]

317 different wagers and props in tonight's Celtics/Heat game.

[raiders72001]

if Betcoin Gets pinnacle odds back ill play again but its been awhile.

Boosted odds on Nuggets/Lakers game -208/+190 with a $5k max if you aren't limited.

[BOWLSZN]

if Betcoin Gets pinnacle odds back ill play again but its been awhile.

[ArAnah]

Selling a bridge, you interested?

what you mean?

[raiders72001]

249 players so far. Top 10 cash.

[raiders72001]

Reminder on the Betcoin pool. You can make 10 brackets. One for each $5 wager. 1st place is $2k. Top 10 get paid.

Players can create up to 10 brackets, 1 per qualifying entry. To qualify for an entry, place a wager of at least $5 on a basketball match, with odds of at least 1.83 (-120 American) in the Betcoin Sports or Legacy sportsbook. Complete your qualification by sending a betslip ID of each entry via support ticket. Please name your entries based on your username and bracket number (ie.. Betcoin1, Betcoin2, Betcoin3 etc…) Improperly named brackets or brackets created in excess the amount you qualified for are subject to deletion. Deadline for entries is 16 March 2023, at 1215 EST. Prize Pool The top 10 players will receive an unrestricted BTC prize to their accounts 1st $2000, 2nd $1100, 3rd $750, 4th $400, 5th $250 6th-10th $100 Any player with a perfect bracket will receive $500,000 worth of bitcoin! We are available any time to answer any questions you may have. Limit 1 account per household and all management decisions are final. Thanks and best of luck to all!

[raiders72001]

$500k for a perfect bracket although I've never seen someone hit em all.

Get ready for some madness, as the Betcoin.ag March Madness Bracket Challenge has returned and is bigger and better than ever! This year, we are awarding the 10 brackets with the highest scores $5000 in Bitcoin prizes. Create a perfect bracket and take home a cool $500,000, all to yourself!

[raiders72001]

Keep money in USDT if you are worried about BTC price.

[Optional]

@optional can we open another thread for PlayBetr so we can all discuss about PlayBetr there as it becomes huge problem it seems for many players lately from what Ive read

Sure, you can open whatever threads you would like to.

[raiders72001]

@optional can we open another thread for PlayBetr so we can all discuss about PlayBetr there as it becomes huge problem it seems for many players lately from what Ive read

why not do it here? Same company and saves space in the forum.

[karakara123]

@optional can we open another thread for PlayBetr so we can all discuss about PlayBetr there as it becomes huge problem it seems for many players lately from what Ive read

[Cicadasinthe]

In just reading this last page it sounds like the cat caught the mouse a few times here at Betcoin.

I have no comment except to say this isn't the only book to experience these problems. Never underestimate the creativity of a motivated sportsbettor or group of bettors.

I do believe that they paid out to multiple accounters, that's a very realistic assertion. But those multi accounters abused it and probably made it obvious and now Betcoin is updating the tech.

There's an answer to the tech though, but those answers require patience and discipline. From Betcoins standpoint, I see the need to act.

From my standpoint, there's nothing more tragic than a motivated group without the patience and discipline. It hurts the players, the books, and the market overall.

I think Betcoin will be fine and, after some time, I wouldn't worry much about safety at the house. I do want some time to pass though, before hitting them again, but we're just not sure how bad they got got to begin with and how much they are letting on about it. If someone was asleep at the wheel, there could be issues.

When I said I had no comment it was about specific issue with players in this thread, and if there are legitimate issues, I hope they get resolved.

Again, if you are one to get made by some of these bitcoin books, you have to be patient, and disciplined, it's a touchy beast with them.

Don't abuse the ability to abuse lest we all get abused.

Selling a bridge, you interested?

[newb101]

Along with innocent players getting caught in the mix. If you know of any sports bettors in the same city who use Betcoin, be very careful as you may get caught up if you even bet on the same sport.

[raiders72001]

In just reading this last page it sounds like the cat caught the mouse a few times here at Betcoin.

I have no comment except to say this isn't the only book to experience these problems. Never underestimate the creativity of a motivated sportsbettor or group of bettors.

I do believe that they paid out to multiple accounters, that's a very realistic assertion. But those multi accounters abused it and probably made it obvious and now Betcoin is updating the tech.

There's an answer to the tech though, but those answers require patience and discipline. From Betcoins standpoint, I see the need to act.

From my standpoint, there's nothing more tragic than a motivated group without the patience and discipline. It hurts the players, the books, and the market overall.

I think Betcoin will be fine and, after some time, I wouldn't worry much about safety at the house. I do want some time to pass though, before hitting them again, but we're just not sure how bad they got got to begin with and how much they are letting on about it. If someone was asleep at the wheel, there could be issues.

When I said I had no comment it was about specific issue with players in this thread, and if there are legitimate issues, I hope they get resolved.

Again, if you are one to get made by some of these bitcoin books, you have to be patient, and disciplined, it's a touchy beast with them.

Don't abuse the ability to abuse lest we all get abused.

That's an excellent post. One thing to add is that Betcoin agrees to 3rd party arbitration. These players should get together with Betcoin and pick out a third party if they have a case. I don't know of any other book that agrees to binding arbitration.

[KVB]

In just reading this last page it sounds like the cat caught the mouse a few times here at Betcoin.

I have no comment except to say this isn't the only book to experience these problems. Never underestimate the creativity of a motivated sportsbettor or group of bettors.

I do believe that they paid out to multiple accounters, that's a very realistic assertion. But those multi accounters abused it and probably made it obvious and now Betcoin is updating the tech.

There's an answer to the tech though, but those answers require patience and discipline. From Betcoins standpoint, I see the need to act.

From my standpoint, there's nothing more tragic than a motivated group without the patience and discipline. It hurts the players, the books, and the market overall.

I think Betcoin will be fine and, after some time, I wouldn't worry much about safety at the house. I do want some time to pass though, before hitting them again, but we're just not sure how bad they got got to begin with and how much they are letting on about it. If someone was asleep at the wheel, there could be issues.

When I said I had no comment it was about specific issue with players in this thread, and if there are legitimate issues, I hope they get resolved.

Again, if you are one to get made by some of these bitcoin books, you have to be patient, and disciplined, it's a touchy beast with them.

Don't abuse the ability to abuse lest we all get abused.

[raiders72001]

Bitcoin books are advanced. If you are red flagged at one book, you're red flagged at many books. They know you before the first bet. That's why some are limited so fast.

I still think that a manual change needs to be done on major markets. Can't limit anyone to $50 on NFL or the upcoming World Cup.

[raiders72001]

[QUOTE=bookie;31053219]

But Betcoin has reached out and asked if we can post a statement for them.


This just doesn't pass the smell test. Thousands of payouts to fraudsters?

And to me they sound huffy. Bookmaking is a frustrating business, but there's a level of fist shaking here that is not just a turn-off but suggests they are at wit's end and have to resort to threats. If they get Pinnacle and have decent limits and can keep it together for a year without having conflicts with thousands of accounts, I'll give them a try.

One of the things I wonder about is if in an age of $50 limits people are creating ten accounts to bet a nickel on a college basketball total? I guess that could add up to thousands of accounts pretty fast. Betcoin doesn't owe us any information, but if I had a better understanding of how the accounts that are getting limited profile it would help alleviate some suspicions I have about this book.

I think you hit the nail on the head. Looks like they are extremely frustrated with multi-accounts. Then add to that all the recent upgrades and testing that come with the upgrades and there has to be some hair pulling. I think they are a solid outfit.

[PD77]

I was in contact with support about the rejected bets but they wouldn’t specify a limit or if I had one. It was kind of vague”limits are based on various factors including market size, maximum market liability and player skill level. We review limits and the way they are affected by these risk factors often”

Any idea about these PBR coins? My VIP level is too low so I keep getting them in the surprise box. Apparently they’ll have value in the future. Just curious if anyone has received anything other than the pbr coins or status points.

[raiders72001]

Thanks Raiders! That clears some of it up right there, they were steering me towards the betcoin sportsbook but I was having more success finding my markets in the legacy sportsbook. another problem was I was trying to bet $100 on different games and the bets wouldn’t go through. I lowered them to $50 and they went through. I can work with those limits if they payout in 30 minutes consistently.
I may have them disable the casino so I can focus on the sportsbook. I tend to get sidetracked/frustrated and head there.

do you know if and when they bring back pinnacle will it be restricted for some countries? I know they have the casino setup that way.

Not sure on the restrictions with Pinny. The first time around there were no restrictions. The letter that Optional posted makes it look as though there will be restrictions

Pinnacle to return soon, for players in permitted regions

. As far as limits go, the best thing to do is send a support ticket asking for more.

[PD77]

It does have a ton of features and multiple books and can be complicated until you play around with it. You would want to use a PC and be in Legacy.

Thanks Raiders! That clears some of it up right there, they were steering me towards the betcoin sportsbook but I was having more success finding my markets in the legacy sportsbook. another problem was I was trying to bet $100 on different games and the bets wouldn’t go through. I lowered them to $50 and they went through. I can work with those limits if they payout in 30 minutes consistently.
I may have them disable the casino so I can focus on the sportsbook. I tend to get sidetracked/frustrated and head there.

do you know if and when they bring back pinnacle will it be restricted for some countries? I know they have the casino setup that way.

[bookie]

[QUOTE=Optional;31051044]
But Betcoin has reached out and asked if we can post a statement for them.

.................. we have paid out illegitimate winnings to thousands of players who we were 99% sure [were multi-accounting]............

This just doesn't pass the smell test. Thousands of payouts to fraudsters?

And to me they sound huffy. Bookmaking is a frustrating business, but there's a level of fist shaking here that is not just a turn-off but suggests they are at wit's end and have to resort to threats. If they get Pinnacle and have decent limits and can keep it together for a year without having conflicts with thousands of accounts, I'll give them a try.

One of the things I wonder about is if in an age of $50 limits people are creating ten accounts to bet a nickel on a college basketball total? I guess that could add up to thousands of accounts pretty fast. Betcoin doesn't owe us any information, but if I had a better understanding of how the accounts that are getting limited profile it would help alleviate some suspicions I have about this book.