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PinnacleThey aren't going to enforce this type of rule for suspected illegal activity.We may forfeit and/or confiscate funds available on your Account and/or refuse to honour a claim, in the event that, directly or indirectly: (i) the Terms have been violated; and/or (ii) other unauthorised activities have occurred in connection with a betting event and/or the operation of an Account (such as, but not limited to, breach of the law or other regulations, breach of a third party’s rights, fraud, and cheating).Comment -
Raiders if you are attempting to commit a fraud or crime listed on the terms and conditions page I suggest you do not as any book that says what jetwin, pinny nitro fairlay ect and ect In there terms are in full right to do what they list..Betg if he pulled same thing at any of these including jetwin would have Account frozen...
now 99 % of us on here are hard working honest guys but when the 1% dirtball scammers try to commit fraud I apluade any and all books who take steps to protect themselves along with all the honest players....let sbr chime in grade and then document fairlay like other books you’re one example is not even a complaint filed by betg it’s just all heresay...anyone that doesn’t even bother to listen to mods and veteran posters here has no credibility
maybe guys who attempt to violate terms at books to commit fraud should be rated as FLast edited by littlekona; 02-26-18, 07:36 PM.Comment -
.04% of Coinbase users claim Bitcoin on their taxes. The other 99% are criminals. Seasoned gamblers such as trytrytry and a mod Optional, agree that Fairlay was wrong.
Please stop being untruthful in your claims that other books would do the same in a case of "suspected" money laundering. It's never been done in Costa Rica in over two decades and thousands of books.Last edited by raiders72001; 02-26-18, 07:41 PM.Comment -
It’s its right here on jetwin terms that they will freeze and turn over documents in fraud cases to authorities too.....black and white guess these books just use terms as comedy....plus whenever has anyone done what betg did....bet it’s a first....wait worlds dumbest criminals is on soon...let me watch and I’ll report back if anyone else
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littlekona- it doesn't matter how many times you keep repeating the same stuff over and over again. It doesn't make it true. Except for Fairlay, sportsbooks aren't going to confiscate money for "suspected" crime.It’s its right here on jetwin terms that they will freeze and turn over documents in fraud cases to authorities too.....black and white guess these books just use terms as comedy....plus whenever has anyone done what betg did....bet it’s a first....wait worlds dumbest criminals is on soon...let me watch and I’ll report back if anyone else
https://calvinayre.com/2016/05/10/bu...ey-laundering/On Tuesday, local media outlet La Nacion quoted Alvaro Montoya, deputy prosecutor in Costa Rica’s Office of Money Laundering, saying his department wasn’t investigating 5Dimes or other Costa Rica-based sportsbooks for alleged money laundering because, last time he checked, sports betting wasn’t illegal in Costa Rica.Last edited by raiders72001; 02-26-18, 08:00 PM.Comment -
Unless you work for and are representative of jetwin i think the 1% scammers that u are protecting best read and believe the terms listed on page...commit fraud violate terms get account frozen..dont follow through w kyc and forfeit funds and we will turn over to authorities ....simple as that says it right thereComment -
edit- One more thing on CR.
Costa Rican authorities say they’re not investigating allegations that locally based online gambling operator 5Dimes engaged in money laundering activity with US sports bettors.In March, Costa Rican media reported that 5Dimes’ local manager was caught up in an investigation of money transfers between Banco de Costa Rica accounts and companies in Malta and Dubai. The same month saw US Homeland Security accuse 5Dimes of instructing American sports bettors to use Amazon gift cards to fund their online accounts.
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Again with the hearsay you love that huh...I’ve been online longer then you started with the Greek 30 plus years ago....one criminal who was asked for a kyc in four years only one ever and he’s not even a betting customer and you cry that book is in wrong.....obviously sbr doesn’t have a compliant and fairlay has great reputation but you raiders just want to protect the criminals who in long run are the ones that jeopardize all us homest players...I’m here to protect and help the honest guys the criminal 1% I am glad they get busted...terms are terms any book likw jetwin that says they will freeze forfeit and turn you over to cops In there terms I believe and would hope they enforce..ridiculous to think anything else
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Now we are getting somewhere. You agree that no book in Costa Rica, other than Fairlay, has confiscated funds due to money laundering, even though the no money laundering clause is standard.
If a cop arrest a person for going 36 MPH in a 35 judging by his site without radar proof, the cop should be fired. Fairlay confiscated money in a situation where other books would ignore and Fairlay posted no proof.Comment -
Dude stop the lies....you have no idea about it just hearsay ...freezing an account due to serious fraud issues and then person(can’t say player cause he’s not) not complying with reasonable requests is far from that and sbr agrees....every poster that comment asked him to submit a complaint again and again he didn’t even you say he is a money laundering at best worse who knows maybe coins stolen too....so stop your bs raiders....nice anolgg on speed limit lol betg was going 100 in school zone and did it 30days In row..finally got caught with no id and dint have phone to take picture too lol....you keep defending the criminals....ambulance chaser?Comment -
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I got a serious, important question about Fairlay.
Other than the Betg guy who had BTC confiscated, are there other reports of wrong-doings by Fairlay?
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none...only one in four plus years to ever be asked for KYC too that was BETG and in which he sent fake docs too....Guys on here have moved and wagered good amounts never a issue but with BETG...Many peeps on SBR use and move good amounts never a issue except standard stuff all of get at any book sometimes..
I personally dont want to play at places that openly accept fraud, Money Laundering ect....That s recipe for shut down and then all honest players get hurt...Look what happened to Full Tilt and other poker sites...So I'd hope that books I use protect themselves and in turn protect me...If I have any issue with thats what SBR is here for to advocate for meLast edited by littlekona; 02-27-18, 12:08 PM.Comment -
There was another person that Fairlay asked for KYC. There are some problems with delayed gradings and payouts on occasion. There's another complaint from a couple of days ago. Overall they are pretty good with timely payouts and gradings. If not for the unforced errors, I would be playing there again.
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FairlayIt is from a misgrade and there is nothing we can do about it................fairlay so you robbed this person $600 with exchange differences?
there is nothing you can do...i really dont believe that
but this just reiterates why i dont play with shitty books
they do shitty stuff like this to the customer.
i feel bad for you suneholder. Dont ever use them again and go with nitrogensports is the answer manLast edited by raiders72001; 02-27-18, 03:49 PM.Comment -
They seem fine in general Hotcross.
No other serious complaints on SBR apart from the betg fellow.
But they still leave me with a seed of doubt in the pit of my stomach from the attitude and logic they displayed dealing with that player.
I'd hesitate to recommend them but there is no good reason to stay away completely. Small and avg size players not doing anything unusual should be fine there..Comment -
I read/knew about the story before I tried Fairlay. My theory was... you aren't going to know... unless you try it yourself. Deposit something small.... and then ask for a PO.
Raiders makes good points.... Kona makes good points. If I hear about another player who's funds were held... then I won't use them again. Majority of these stories are from scammers. Always trying to pull a fast one on someone. 95% of the stories are exaggerated.Comment -
yeah I guess its difficult for me to relate to the scammer stories, because I'm not one
I'm not sure what Optional means by "average size" player. Guessing maybe 100 per wager?? I generally play 100 to 500 per pick, but sometimes fire a bigger amount when I feel the need to lose a bundle on a single game!
I deposited once at Fairlay around two weeks ago and been looking to build my balance there. So far grading has been completed timely and without any issues. I've been doing well grinding the balance higher....sure hope its not foolish to get it too high....original plan was to rise up to 1 BTC before requesting P.O. ....your thoughts?Comment -
I meant 100-500 per bet as an average player. Not really sure what average is but that is what i meant by it
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what would be the lower reaches of a "big" player?
stupid sounding question perhaps. but what say??? 1k, 2k, ??Comment -
For me I think $500+ units is a big player. And up to $100 is a small player. Probably $5000+ as a whale.
Although I bet many would scoff at a number like 500 being 'big'. But I'd expect a 500/unit guy to bet 1000 and 1500 quite regularly.
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agreed
If you work with the philosophy "percentage of bankroll", the amounts increase as you experience success.
Just wanted to get a point of reference beyond my own. I'd say maybe 2500 starts getting big.
But when we talk about a bitcoin only book, I only think of the BTC units in the account, don't do any math conversions until goal is reached.Comment -
Back to Jetwin. They have some freebies.https://www.jetwin.com/en-us/help/promotionsMarch Madness Gambling: Jetwin.com, A Good Option for Sports Bettors
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Ah.... the catch is... each wager must be +150 or higher???
Not understanding this. What happens if you wanted to take a favorite?
It's like they are begging you to take dogs in order to get the freebets
Or I could be reading it wrong? It's been a long day... tired.Comment -
The bet does have to be a dog of +150 or higher. You receive a free bet if the qualifying bet wins or loses. Pick the currency that you want to play in when you sign up. You can deposit with BTC, LTC or Dash. Then they will convert to your choice of BTC, USD, EUR and some others.
Huge selection of sports pre-game and in game.Comment -
You can create a parlay of favorites as long as it's odds are +150 total.Ah.... the catch is... each wager must be +150 or higher???
Not understanding this. What happens if you wanted to take a favorite?
It's like they are begging you to take dogs in order to get the freebets
Or I could be reading it wrong? It's been a long day... tired..Comment
