Because the value lies with the Astros so deal with it. Truthfully, Homer Bailey should not be a road favorite in the -150s when both starting pitchers have virtually identical FIPs.
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Exxpresso
SBR Sharp
08-29-10
279
#6
Hey LT Profits, do you like the Mariners today at home ?
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LT Profits
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10-27-06
90963
#7
Originally posted by Exxpresso
Hey LT Profits, do you like the Mariners today at home ?
I do think the Mariners are live but still checking out some things.
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No coincidences
SBR Aristocracy
01-18-10
76300
#8
Originally posted by leetreaper
Astros loooool
I'm sure the Astros will never win again.
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Vinnie Paz
SBR Posting Legend
03-27-12
12177
#9
Thanks man
These asshole astros gotta come through some day!
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sportsguy04
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10-21-08
11885
#10
Originally posted by No coincidences
I'm sure the Astros will never win again.
With that line up, most likely not and co co
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Mr Handicapable
SBR Hall of Famer
09-23-07
6067
#11
Homer lifetime vs Houston 4-0 1.60 era
Homer's last 4 starts 4-0 1.76 era
The Reds have also won 13 of 15.....I'm on Reds ML +115
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leetreaper
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10-23-10
34841
#12
Originally posted by No coincidences
I'm sure the Astros will never win again.
My point exactly, no offence LT but how can Astros have any value, jokes...
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scottsins
SBR High Roller
12-05-11
103
#13
Originally posted by leetreaper
My point exactly, no offence LT but how can Astros have any value, jokes...
Because of what the ml is. The theory, that I subscribe to, is that with ml bets, you aren't just predicting the team most likely to win. You have to evaluate that in comparison to the price given.
It's just like value betting horses, if you're familiar with that.
My reasons may not be LT's, but that's why I bet underdogs sometimes, even though I may not be convinced that they are the probable winner.
Because of what the ml is. The theory, that I subscribe to, is that with ml bets, you aren't just predicting the team most likely to win. You have to evaluate that in comparison to the price given.
It's just like value betting horses, if you're familiar with that.
My reasons may not be LT's, but that's why I bet underdogs sometimes, even though I may not be convinced that they are the probable winner.
100% correct and I implied as much when I said Bailey shouldn't be this price on the road, which is the same thing as saying 'Stros are undervalued.
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No coincidences
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01-18-10
76300
#16
Originally posted by leetreaper
My point exactly, no offence LT but how can Astros have any value, jokes...
So Bailey being -150 on the road makes sense to you?
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LT Profits
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10-27-06
90963
#17
Originally posted by Mr Handicapable
Homer lifetime vs Houston 4-0 1.60 era
Homer's last 4 starts 4-0 1.76 era
The Reds have also won 13 of 15.....I'm on Reds ML +115
And that's why line is what it is. But if you look at FIP, you'll see starters are basically a wash. Yes Reds are stronger on other areas but I come up with them winning about 56% of the time.
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altieriflyers
SBR Wise Guy
07-23-12
777
#18
Thanks for your plays LT
BOL
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BamaCBass
SBR MVP
10-07-09
1252
#19
Originally posted by LT Profits
And that's why line is what it is. But if you look at FIP, you'll see starters are basically a wash. Yes Reds are stronger on other areas but I come up with them winning about 56% of the time.
And if I'm not mistaken, laying -150 is equivalent to a 60% probability. Correct? So the value is basically in that 4% difference in theory I suppose. Out of say 100 times with said conditions, 4 games would make the difference... LOL. No wonder this game is a challenge.
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hydrosmak
SBR MVP
10-13-11
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#20
Originally posted by No coincidences
So Bailey being -150 on the road makes sense to you?
He doesn't even know what value is Noco. He is only worried about winners.
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LT Profits
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10-27-06
90963
#21
Originally posted by BamaCBass
And if I'm not mistaken, laying -150 is equivalent to a 60% probability. Correct? So the value is basically in that 4% difference in theory I suppose. Out of say 100 times with said conditions, 4 games would make the difference... LOL. No wonder this game is a challenge.
56% is a no-vig line of +/-127
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BamaCBass
SBR MVP
10-07-09
1252
#22
Originally posted by LT Profits
56% is a no-vig line of +/-127
Cool, that makes sense.
GL!
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leetreaper
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10-23-10
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#23
Def makes sense, Cincy needs to control central division, bailey is 1 era and 1 whip with 3 wins last 3 games, Hoston lost 20 games in a row and out of the playoff picture, the line should be -175 plus.
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leetreaper
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10-23-10
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#24
Not to mention that : BAILEY is 4-0 when starting against HOUSTON with an ERA of 1.60 and a WHIP of 0.921.
NORRIS is 0-2 when starting against CINCINNATI with an ERA of 7.23 and a WHIP of 2.089.
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leetreaper
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#25
Where is the value coming from?
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Vasco
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03-16-12
315
#26
Can't believe I fell for the Philly under after watching that 9 run 8th inning last night. Wait til this game gets to the bullpen.
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Gamble32jn
SBR MVP
02-07-12
1860
#27
Originally posted by Vasco
Can't believe I fell for the Philly under after watching that 9 run 8th inning last night. Wait til this game gets to the bullpen.
i took 1 pick today from a random person on the forum and it was LT. I got bad timing it seems..LOL. All my picks are at least doing good so far. Up a good amount so as long as philly wins it a free roll for me.