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  • LT Profits
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 10-27-06
    • 90963

    #1
    MLB - Wednesday, 7/25/12
    2 MLB Plays Wednesday

    Brewers / Phillies UNDER 8.5 -110 (5 Dimes)
    Astros +140 (Bookmaker)


    YTD: 205-163-16, +49.14
  • pimpinaces
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 08-25-10
    • 739

    #2
    Damn man astos again??
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    • leetreaper
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 10-23-10
      • 34841

      #3
      Astros loooool
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      • scottsins
        SBR High Roller
        • 12-05-11
        • 103

        #4
        Originally posted by leetreaper
        Astros loooool
        He's up 49 units.
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        • LT Profits
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 10-27-06
          • 90963

          #5
          Because the value lies with the Astros so deal with it. Truthfully, Homer Bailey should not be a road favorite in the -150s when both starting pitchers have virtually identical FIPs.
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          • Exxpresso
            SBR Sharp
            • 08-29-10
            • 279

            #6
            Hey LT Profits, do you like the Mariners today at home ?
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            • LT Profits
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 10-27-06
              • 90963

              #7
              Originally posted by Exxpresso
              Hey LT Profits, do you like the Mariners today at home ?
              I do think the Mariners are live but still checking out some things.
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              • No coincidences
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 01-18-10
                • 76300

                #8
                Originally posted by leetreaper
                Astros loooool
                I'm sure the Astros will never win again.
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                • Vinnie Paz
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 03-27-12
                  • 12177

                  #9
                  Thanks man
                  These asshole astros gotta come through some day!
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                  • sportsguy04
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 10-21-08
                    • 11885

                    #10
                    Originally posted by No coincidences
                    I'm sure the Astros will never win again.
                    With that line up, most likely not and co co
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                    • Mr Handicapable
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 09-23-07
                      • 6067

                      #11
                      Homer lifetime vs Houston 4-0 1.60 era
                      Homer's last 4 starts 4-0 1.76 era

                      The Reds have also won 13 of 15.....I'm on Reds ML +115
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                      • leetreaper
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 10-23-10
                        • 34841

                        #12
                        Originally posted by No coincidences
                        I'm sure the Astros will never win again.
                        My point exactly, no offence LT but how can Astros have any value, jokes...
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                        • scottsins
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 12-05-11
                          • 103

                          #13
                          Originally posted by leetreaper
                          My point exactly, no offence LT but how can Astros have any value, jokes...
                          Because of what the ml is. The theory, that I subscribe to, is that with ml bets, you aren't just predicting the team most likely to win. You have to evaluate that in comparison to the price given.

                          It's just like value betting horses, if you're familiar with that.

                          My reasons may not be LT's, but that's why I bet underdogs sometimes, even though I may not be convinced that they are the probable winner.
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                          • LT Profits
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 10-27-06
                            • 90963

                            #14
                            MLB 6-Pack (First at 12:30 ET)

                            Originally posted by LT Profits
                            2 MLB Plays Wednesday

                            Brewers / Phillies UNDER 8.5 -110 (5 Dimes)
                            Astros +140 (Bookmaker)


                            YTD: 205-163-16, +49.14
                            Adding:

                            Marlins +112 (Rebate Wager)
                            Mariners +157 (Rebate Wager)
                            Tigers / Indians UNDER 9 -110 (5 Dimes)
                            Reds / Astros UNDER 4 -110 (5 innings) (Rebate Wager)


                            MLB Card complete
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                            • LT Profits
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 10-27-06
                              • 90963

                              #15
                              Originally posted by scottsins
                              Because of what the ml is. The theory, that I subscribe to, is that with ml bets, you aren't just predicting the team most likely to win. You have to evaluate that in comparison to the price given.

                              It's just like value betting horses, if you're familiar with that.

                              My reasons may not be LT's, but that's why I bet underdogs sometimes, even though I may not be convinced that they are the probable winner.
                              100% correct and I implied as much when I said Bailey shouldn't be this price on the road, which is the same thing as saying 'Stros are undervalued.
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                              • No coincidences
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 01-18-10
                                • 76300

                                #16
                                Originally posted by leetreaper
                                My point exactly, no offence LT but how can Astros have any value, jokes...
                                So Bailey being -150 on the road makes sense to you?
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                                • LT Profits
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 10-27-06
                                  • 90963

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Mr Handicapable
                                  Homer lifetime vs Houston 4-0 1.60 era
                                  Homer's last 4 starts 4-0 1.76 era

                                  The Reds have also won 13 of 15.....I'm on Reds ML +115
                                  And that's why line is what it is. But if you look at FIP, you'll see starters are basically a wash. Yes Reds are stronger on other areas but I come up with them winning about 56% of the time.
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                                  • altieriflyers
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 07-23-12
                                    • 777

                                    #18
                                    Thanks for your plays LT
                                    BOL
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                                    • BamaCBass
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 10-07-09
                                      • 1252

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by LT Profits
                                      And that's why line is what it is. But if you look at FIP, you'll see starters are basically a wash. Yes Reds are stronger on other areas but I come up with them winning about 56% of the time.
                                      And if I'm not mistaken, laying -150 is equivalent to a 60% probability. Correct? So the value is basically in that 4% difference in theory I suppose. Out of say 100 times with said conditions, 4 games would make the difference... LOL. No wonder this game is a challenge.
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                                      • hydrosmak
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 10-13-11
                                        • 1908

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by No coincidences
                                        So Bailey being -150 on the road makes sense to you?
                                        He doesn't even know what value is Noco. He is only worried about winners.
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                                        • LT Profits
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 10-27-06
                                          • 90963

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by BamaCBass
                                          And if I'm not mistaken, laying -150 is equivalent to a 60% probability. Correct? So the value is basically in that 4% difference in theory I suppose. Out of say 100 times with said conditions, 4 games would make the difference... LOL. No wonder this game is a challenge.
                                          56% is a no-vig line of +/-127
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                                          • BamaCBass
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 10-07-09
                                            • 1252

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by LT Profits
                                            56% is a no-vig line of +/-127
                                            Cool, that makes sense.

                                            GL!
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                                            • leetreaper
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 10-23-10
                                              • 34841

                                              #23
                                              Def makes sense, Cincy needs to control central division, bailey is 1 era and 1 whip with 3 wins last 3 games, Hoston lost 20 games in a row and out of the playoff picture, the line should be -175 plus.
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                                              • leetreaper
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 10-23-10
                                                • 34841

                                                #24
                                                Not to mention that :
                                                BAILEY is 4-0 when starting against HOUSTON with an ERA of 1.60 and a WHIP of 0.921.

                                                NORRIS is 0-2 when starting against CINCINNATI with an ERA of 7.23 and a WHIP of 2.089.
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                                                • leetreaper
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 10-23-10
                                                  • 34841

                                                  #25
                                                  Where is the value coming from?
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                                                  • Vasco
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 03-16-12
                                                    • 315

                                                    #26
                                                    Can't believe I fell for the Philly under after watching that 9 run 8th inning last night. Wait til this game gets to the bullpen.
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                                                    • Gamble32jn
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 02-07-12
                                                      • 1860

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Vasco
                                                      Can't believe I fell for the Philly under after watching that 9 run 8th inning last night. Wait til this game gets to the bullpen.
                                                      i took 1 pick today from a random person on the forum and it was LT. I got bad timing it seems..LOL. All my picks are at least doing good so far. Up a good amount so as long as philly wins it a free roll for me.
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                                                      • alanlazar
                                                        SBR Hustler
                                                        • 03-23-09
                                                        • 92

                                                        #28


                                                        This proves his point on the Reds game
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                                                        • leetreaper
                                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                          • 10-23-10
                                                          • 34841

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by alanlazar
                                                          https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8gd...RfSE1tZFk/edit

                                                          This proves his point on the Reds game
                                                          Thank you.
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                                                          • LT Profits
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 10-27-06
                                                            • 90963

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by leetreaper
                                                            Where is the value coming from?
                                                            I already mentioned FIP, which is much more predictive then commonly available stats.
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                                                            • Donkeys2012
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 01-11-12
                                                              • 2771

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                              I already mentioned FIP, which is much more predictive then commonly available stats.
                                                              I already mentioned LT Profits sucks but not nearly in the same class as Landers and Brahma
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                                                              • altieriflyers
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 07-23-12
                                                                • 777

                                                                #32
                                                                LT is having a tremendous year. Thanks to him I`ve made a good amount of money.
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                                                                • LT Profits
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 10-27-06
                                                                  • 90963

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by altieriflyers
                                                                  LT is having a tremendous year. Thanks to him I`ve made a good amount of money.
                                                                  Not today though 0-3 start.
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                                                                  • altieriflyers
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 07-23-12
                                                                    • 777

                                                                    #34
                                                                    There will be days like this. Keep up the good work!
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                                                                    • leetreaper
                                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                      • 10-23-10
                                                                      • 34841

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Astros and value are two different/opposite things...
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