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  • LT Profits
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 10-27-06
    • 90963

    #1
    I Know Rays are Slumping and It's Dice-K, BUT>>>
    You may never get +155 on Scott Kazmir ever again!
  • fiveteamer
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 04-14-08
    • 10805

    #2
    bleh, red sox are on a mission.

    would not touch this one.
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    • LT Profits
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 10-27-06
      • 90963

      #3
      I couldn't pass up this value, expecially when you compare Kazmir's stats to Dice-K's. Not that much difference.
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      • AnotherLoan
        SBR MVP
        • 07-21-08
        • 2225

        #4
        He is +155 for a reason. Rays have no offense without Crawford and Longoria and the Red Sox are only 10-1 in Matsuzaka's last 11 starts.
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        • Fishhead
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 08-11-05
          • 40179

          #5
          I would seriously contemplate looking at the +1.5 on the Rays........
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          • big joe 1212
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 06-01-08
            • 19380

            #6
            Rays are very streaky! Take when hot, bet against when not. They are pretty easy team to figure out!
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            • pavyracer
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 04-12-07
              • 82815

              #7
              The only way I bet this game is if there was DNB like soccer. How are the Rays going to score?
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              • bigp69
                SBR High Roller
                • 05-15-08
                • 119

                #8
                Theres no way I would bet the rays here.
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                • LT Profits
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 10-27-06
                  • 90963

                  #9
                  You guys do realize Kazmir has allowed 0 runs and a grand total of 4 (that's FOUR) hits with 13 strukeouts in his last two starts right? No way I lay any odds against him right now.
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                  • AnotherLoan
                    SBR MVP
                    • 07-21-08
                    • 2225

                    #10
                    Take the under then if you want to because the Rays won't put up any runs.
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                    • LT Profits
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 10-27-06
                      • 90963

                      #11
                      Originally posted by AnotherLoan
                      Take the under then if you want to because the Rays won't put up any runs.
                      Not a bad plan.

                      But I'd rather take the +155 on what should be a +120 or so.
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                      • LT Profits
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 10-27-06
                        • 90963

                        #12
                        Don't forget about Tampa pen either, second lowest ERA in AL. I see a tight low scoring game late, and if that turns out to be true, I'll be holding +155 on what is essentially a toss up.
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                        • picantel
                          SBR MVP
                          • 09-17-05
                          • 4338

                          #13
                          I took the rays also. Also took KC at +195(bannister is 3-0 against the twins) and Texas +140(Hernandez is 0-3 this year against texas and 4-7 lifetime). Why the hell not I always say.
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                          • fiveteamer
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 04-14-08
                            • 10805

                            #14
                            I like Texas out of those 3.
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                            • ryanXL977
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 02-24-08
                              • 20615

                              #15
                              im on tb
                              people seem to think that the bosox will never lose, its 162 games
                              ill take kaz at +155
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                              • Brady2Moss
                                SBR MVP
                                • 07-02-08
                                • 1500

                                #16
                                TB +155 is the sharp play
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                                • soni
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 01-21-08
                                  • 860

                                  #17
                                  take first the white sox then take tampa if you will
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                                  • stump
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 09-14-05
                                    • 1715

                                    #18
                                    I'm on the Rays as well. Too much value and you would think they will finally steal one in boston. Only thing that worries me is that Kazmir is a 5 inning pitcher and the bullpen late in games scares me
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                                    • gordon gekko
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 05-01-08
                                      • 2842

                                      #19
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                                      • ryanXL977
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 02-24-08
                                        • 20615

                                        #20
                                        one game, anyone can win
                                        ill take kaz at+150 anyday
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                                        • unde0087
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 03-27-08
                                          • 28951

                                          #21
                                          If you can't hit you can't win, it doesn't matter who is on the mound. Kazmir is good but so is Matuzaka especially at home. There is no value at +155.
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                                          • ryanXL977
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 02-24-08
                                            • 20615

                                            #22
                                            matsuzaka aint in kaz league

                                            ill take tb ff
                                            easy call
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                                            • Wilforth
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 05-10-08
                                              • 16309

                                              #23
                                              BoSOx is chalky. Rays won't score. Under is the play here.
                                              The easier value plays are the Royals and Texas.
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                                              • unde0087
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 03-27-08
                                                • 28951

                                                #24
                                                D'Rays aren't in Boston's league, the clock struck 12 on the D'Rays miracle season, I don't have a side on this one but if I did, Boston RL

                                                Kazmir has faced the Red Sox twice this season, 9 innings gave up 8 runs on 13 hits. R'Rays are 0-7 against Red Sox at Fenway this season. When Boston sends Matuzaka to the mound they are 21-4 this season. Hence +155
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                                                • Wilforth
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 05-10-08
                                                  • 16309

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                  You guys do realize Kazmir has allowed 0 runs and a grand total of 4 (that's FOUR) hits with 13 strukeouts in his last two starts right? No way I lay any odds against him right now.
                                                  That Kazmir has allowed 0 runs in his L2 is one reason not to play him today. The law of averages has a cynical way of working such that he may give away enough runs in his next 2 to "maintain" his ERA.
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                                                  • ryanXL977
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 02-24-08
                                                    • 20615

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by unde0087
                                                    D'Rays aren't in Boston's league, the clock struck 12 on the D'Rays miracle season, I don't have a side on this one but if I did, Boston RL

                                                    Kazmir has faced the Red Sox twice this season, 9 innings gave up 8 runs on 13 hits. R'Rays are 0-7 against Red Sox at Fenway this season. When Boston sends Matuzaka to the mound they are 21-4 this season. Hence +155
                                                    what kazmir has done vs boston this year has no bearing on today and is a tiny cample anyway
                                                    you keep lookin at the wrong stats
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                                                    • Wilforth
                                                      Restricted User
                                                      • 05-10-08
                                                      • 16309

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by ryanXL977
                                                      matsuzaka aint in kaz league

                                                      ill take tb ff
                                                      easy call
                                                      That may be true but BoSox will score and the Rays won't. It takes more than good pitching to win a game.
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                                                      • ryanXL977
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 02-24-08
                                                        • 20615

                                                        #28
                                                        you dont know if thee rays will score or not, nor do i
                                                        thats the hting, everyone assumes the better team wins every game, like last night, the reds won

                                                        worse teams win all the time
                                                        ill take kaz ff
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                                                        • ryanXL977
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 02-24-08
                                                          • 20615

                                                          #29
                                                          heres a meaningless stat for you guys to ponder

                                                          matsuzaka is 1-3 lifetime vs tb

                                                          which means absolutely nohting
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                                                          • unde0087
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 03-27-08
                                                            • 28951

                                                            #30
                                                            no shit the best team doesn't always win, I am just telling you that Kazmir at +155 isn't the great bet you think especially since his team is now coming back to real life.
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                                                            • ryanXL977
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 02-24-08
                                                              • 20615

                                                              #31
                                                              i know what you are saying, and i will take kaz first five bc i agree with you

                                                              certainly its not a bad bet
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                                                              • Fishhead
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 08-11-05
                                                                • 40179

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                                Don't forget about Tampa pen either, second lowest ERA in AL. I see a tight low scoring game late, and if that turns out to be true, I'll be holding +155 on what is essentially a toss up.

                                                                .....precisely why you should consider taking +1.5 with a live road team.
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                                                                • ryanXL977
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 02-24-08
                                                                  • 20615

                                                                  #33
                                                                  then the value is gone
                                                                  you want to lay -145 for 1.5 runs, the value is gone
                                                                  the whole point oif taking tb is bc they are dogs, once you lay -145 , they aint dogs anymore
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                                                                  • LT Profits
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 10-27-06
                                                                    • 90963

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Fishhead
                                                                    .....precisely why you should consider taking +1.5 with a live road team.
                                                                    I think the bigger edge is with +155 on the ML here. Then again, I never play run lines, unless it's an alternate run line on a road dog at -1.5 at monster odds.
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                                                                    • LT Profits
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 10-27-06
                                                                      • 90963

                                                                      #35
                                                                      And Ryan is dead on. +155 ML is better than +1.5 -145 in long run.
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