GOLDENGREEK's 2011 MLB SEASON LONG THREAD

[Greekisnotgolden]

This is not true. When GG bets 10* on -160 he is risking 16 units to win 10. Therefore if it loses he will be down -16 units.

Well said. It is not risk 10 to win 6 its risk 16 to win 10

I use bookmaker at the moment but am going to move on something for baseball. Prob 5 dimes betonline or the greek. I also use a local

[molotov mlss]

greeks plays from yesterday...for the over unders, i used the lines i got, so they may vary among you, but it should be pretty close

Seattle 10.35 to win 9
Colorado 13.95 to win 9
Tampa 14.85 to win 9
LAD 8.8 to win 8
Det 8.8 to win 8
Tex 9.75 to win 5
Minny 6.25 to win 5
SD 5 to win 5.5
Balty 5 to win 7.5
Mets 2 to win 2.7

SD over 8 3.15 to win 3
Balt over 7 3.15 to win 3
LAD under 7.5 3 to win 3
Mets over 7 3.6 to win 3
Col under 8.5 2 to win 2

total net loss of -20.9 by my count...greek reported -21.25 by his count
greekisnotgolden...u are a liar...go disappear fukker

[Greekisnotgolden]

And I understand he takes dogs. But how many dogs does he really take? Based on the numbers you would need to take them plus 160 or better for every win and we know that's not the case. I understand there is no juice when a dog loses but there is when a favorite loses and when a total does not hit. And again IM getting attacked. Numbers do not add up and its hard to argue with people over simple math that they fail to relatize. GG should really stop gambling and go buy a compound in which he can lead the SBR fourm followers. At minimum he should ask them to send him their paychecks. Sure they would

[niko1227]

In big boy gambling its always to to win/not risk. Go to a bookie sports book etc. When you bet 10 units at -160 its to WIN 10 units

So if he is up 81 wins (not counting juice) how do you get to plus 400 units? That means every hit of your 81 wins has to be greater than 2/1 on the ML if you count them all as one unit.

if you count' each * play than get yoru advacus out.


again you can't reason with people who do not want to be helped

Who gives a Shit,seriously? Don't like the thread? Get the fuk out its that easy your opinion isint scareing anybody so move on.

[WesJeffery]

White sox done. Guys don't bet white sox balti and against phiili

[Greekisnotgolden]

I dont like people who lie about their record and are fruads.

[allabout the $$$]

lets see if greek has a 20 unit play and loses a 5 and a 3 unit play that would be 1-2 with a profit of 11.2 units so it is pretty easy for him to be up that many units

[molotov mlss]

I dont like people who lie about their record and are fruads.

check the math above douchebag, he accounted for all the juice in recording his results

[Redscot]

I am shocked nobody has looked at the actual unit numbers. It is quite laughable how he claims to be up so many units but has been killed the last few days. I also found it funny that he was going to take a nap and come back with more picks later. A true sharp already has the handicapping done and does not make a pick after he awakes from a map. GG is not a pro rather a degenerate that post 15 plays a night. Ppl in here are following him blindly but would someone please look at his "Unit Profit"

when he gives out an 8* play on the underdog and they lose its - 8 units
when he gives out a 5* play on the total and it does not hit its - 5.5 units (called juice Im sure he is clueless about that)
when he gives out a 5* play on Texas -190 its -9.5 units.

In no where does his math indicate these correct figures. You just look at his plus 400 units. A few nights ago i ran his numbers he claimed to be -.25 units when the number was really -8. I keep seeing people follow these threads but I would beg for someone to look into this because its a lie instead of blindly following and defending this fraud.

If your going to use the * system which GG lives by you have to consider every 1* a betting unit. This is basic handicapping however people just look at the pics with 0 homework done. Its really a disservice and I can't stand liars.

He could claim that he counts each play as a 1 unti play regardless of the *. Could say that just a confidence factor but even if that is the case there is no way he is up 400 units

405-324 ( + 413.65 Units ) That figure is plus 81 games W/0 figuring in juice so its really around plus 50 units. So how are you getting to the 400 units? you would need to hit in baseball 50 units at plus a huge number on the ML to get to that number Id love an accountant or auditor to go through the books, but id love to shed some light on this situation. He is nowhere near 400 units. If you count his * plays and multiply by each unit he is prob in the negative. If you count each game as 1 unit play he is prob in the negative.

I HAVE NOTHING against GG but i hate liars that try to doop the betting public. Please read this and take into account. It is simple math. ITS 100 percent impossible for HIM To be up 400 units using simple math

Prime example 25 unit play bulls -160 ml the other night. bad beat or not its a - 40 unit play.

Cant wait to hear GG response how Im a hater and he is the best handicapper and look at the records while posting a million

I really don't think he wants us to run the real numbers. Not pretty when the plus 413 units is expose for a - number hahaha

Uhm, No. Numbers check out. I have been following for a month now and what he reports daily is in line (give or take slight variations do to different books). Kinda sad that you keep time to get another obsession bud.

[Zmoney]

One time G men

[boondoggle]

GG is not misrepresenting his record. You can go through from day one and do the math. Now, occasionally he will post a line and the line moves from -120 to -125 or something like that by the time I have bet it.

GG IS NOT MISREPRESENTING HIS RECORD. YOU ARE UNABLE TO DO BASIC MATH.

[crazykind]

I dont like people who lie about their record and are fruads.

critics are a dime a dozen...why? cuz it takes less energy to hate than to love

your forum name says it all, you transparent jealous ghost

go make some plays in your own thread, this thread has seen it all and the bottom line remains...

up 400+ units on the season

[dume walker]

The calculations I use to assess how well I've done with GG's picks are very simple. At the end of the day I tote up my net win or loss. I then divide that net number by the number I've selected as my unit size for that day's wagers. That tells me how many units I've won or lost for the day. The number is not always exactly the same as GG's for, as molotov mlss points out, lines change minute to minute. But my final number has always been very close to what GG posts as his results for the day.

Thanks for what you do, GG. And BOL on all your picks.

[gshock1]

I dont like people who lie about their record and are fruads.

Who gives a fuk what you like or dislike. You are obviously a loser for creating a screen name like this.

[Greekster]

all right back to making money.... nats/padres game went under.

Come on white sox, lets get a run and tie this thing up.

[Redscot]

all right back to making money.... nats/padres game went under.

Come on white sox, lets get a run and tie this thing up.

We are due!

[oliveloaf]

I dont like people who lie about their record and are fruads.

Oh good. Ralphie is back. Give it a rest son. He calculates accurately. Why waste your time here? Seriously dude, get a life. No one cares that you dont like goldengreek.

[GUMMO77]

I agree. I follow this thread everyday. It's not because Im a GG fan, its because at this point in time GG is winning every week. After everyday he posts his win/loses, and I found nothing to indicate that is numbers are off ( and you are saying WAY OFF!). TRUST me, if he posted a number of win/lose at the start of the day, and that number wasn't right, someone would comment on it .. esp. in this hate filled thread... you are just saying random shit ... with a random ghost account ... and you haven't gone back and done the math. So it's just pathetic you took the time and used all your energy to come up with such a clever screen name LOL

[Kaladarus]

And I understand he takes dogs. But how many dogs does he really take? Based on the numbers you would need to take them plus 160 or better for every win and we know that's not the case. I understand there is no juice when a dog loses but there is when a favorite loses and when a total does not hit. And again IM getting attacked. Numbers do not add up and its hard to argue with people over simple math that they fail to relatize. GG should really stop gambling and go buy a compound in which he can lead the SBR fourm followers. At minimum he should ask them to send him their paychecks. Sure they would

Your math is really good and there's no arguing. Instead of finding some plays and posting errors you are making assumptions. Also I'm pretty sure GG's average play is a *1 right? That would maybe put him at the +50 unit range you are talking about. I'm not so sure though because I can't look at a couple of pages of this thread and figure out simple averages to understand what's really going on. It's a good thing some unknown poster came to this thread to show everyone that has been following for a while that their numbers don't add up.

[goldengreek]

5* TB - 190

3* MILW -135

gl

[Greekster]

double, come on base hit to tie.

[Redscot]

Yeah mofo! Let's get this mojo workin'!!! Dinker ties it up for the Sox!

[tat1980]

Tied up

[Greekster]

tie game!

[Greekisnotgolden]

No his average play is not a 1* but that goes for losses too.

[boondoggle]

Most of the haters in this thread are people who cherry pick his plays or do not tail him long enough to realize his profit.

[Double Bogey]

No his average play is not a 1* but that goes for losses too.

Go through and audit his numbers, IF you find a discrepancy then talk. Until then stfu. Thank you

[LolsMcwinsey]

I am shocked nobody has looked at the actual unit numbers. It is quite laughable how he claims to be up so many units but has been killed the last few days. I also found it funny that he was going to take a nap and come back with more picks later. A true sharp already has the handicapping done and does not make a pick after he awakes from a map. GG is not a pro rather a degenerate that post 15 plays a night. Ppl in here are following him blindly but would someone please look at his "Unit Profit"

when he gives out an 8* play on the underdog and they lose its - 8 units
when he gives out a 5* play on the total and it does not hit its - 5.5 units (called juice Im sure he is clueless about that)
when he gives out a 5* play on Texas -190 its -9.5 units.

In no where does his math indicate these correct figures. You just look at his plus 400 units. A few nights ago i ran his numbers he claimed to be -.25 units when the number was really -8. I keep seeing people follow these threads but I would beg for someone to look into this because its a lie instead of blindly following and defending this fraud.

If your going to use the * system which GG lives by you have to consider every 1* a betting unit. This is basic handicapping however people just look at the pics with 0 homework done. Its really a disservice and I can't stand liars.

He could claim that he counts each play as a 1 unti play regardless of the *. Could say that just a confidence factor but even if that is the case there is no way he is up 400 units

405-324 ( + 413.65 Units ) That figure is plus 81 games W/0 figuring in juice so its really around plus 50 units. So how are you getting to the 400 units? you would need to hit in baseball 50 units at plus a huge number on the ML to get to that number Id love an accountant or auditor to go through the books, but id love to shed some light on this situation. He is nowhere near 400 units. If you count his * plays and multiply by each unit he is prob in the negative. If you count each game as 1 unit play he is prob in the negative.

I HAVE NOTHING against GG but i hate liars that try to doop the betting public. Please read this and take into account. It is simple math. ITS 100 percent impossible for HIM To be up 400 units using simple math

Prime example 25 unit play bulls -160 ml the other night. bad beat or not its a - 40 unit play.

Cant wait to hear GG response how Im a hater and he is the best handicapper and look at the records while posting a million

I really don't think he wants us to run the real numbers. Not pretty when the plus 413 units is expose for a - number hahaha

been saying this for awhile. a few weeks ago gg made a 6* or 8* play on a juiced oakland a's at -185. i believe he wrote next to it "be careful, im allergic to this kind of juice." this play lost and the heavy juice was not subtracted from his units. only the 6* was subtracted where it should have been -11.1 units. he's obviously a proven winner, but his record keeping for this season is inflated by a huge amount. this is one of the main reasons i hate on this guy along with the 20 plays a day and the fact that he LOVES people like "boonedoggle" in his thread every hour, every day *slurp slurping* him.

[Greekster]

bautista up

[goldengreek]

i feel like he bets cws a lot....definitely has every game this series and i would bet he takes winless danks tomorrow.

Especially if sox lose today

i didnt take them yesterday

and the last 15 times ive taken them ive won 11 times

go back and track it

[Greekisnotgolden]

MAY 25TH

evidence

6* Boston -175 +6 win 1-0
4* Pitt -110 -4.4 Loss 1-1
5* DETROIT -130 PPd
5* UNDER 7.5 WASH -5.5 Loss 1-2
3* WASH + 160 -3 Loss 1-3
2* WASH + 1 1/2 ( -145 )-2.9 Loss 1-4
3* MINNY -100 -3 Loss 1-5
5* WSOX + 150 -5 Loss 1-6
3* OVER 8.5 WSOX -3.3 Loss 1-7
2* UNDER 8 HOUST +2 Win 2-7
8* UNDER 6.5 SD +8 Win 3-7
8* SD + 105 +8.4 Win 4-7
5* CINCI + 170 -5 Loss 4-8
AND 3* CINCI - 1 1/2 ( -140 ) this has to be a mistype so benefit of the doubt +3 5-8
3* BALTY - 145 ....+3 Win 6-8
2* OVER 8.5BALTY+2 Win 7-8
3* OVER 9 CUBS/ METS No Play game did not go 9
3* CUBS - 105 gl -3.15 Loss ( game counts total does not 7-9

YESTERDAYS MLB: 8-8 ( - 0.25 UNITS )

makes sense right?
Real number 7-9
Minus 2.85

Real number using math folks. and I'm sure there are more

[Greekisnotgolden]

been saying this for awhile. a few weeks ago gg made a 6* or 8* play on a juiced oakland a's at -185. i believe he wrote next to it "be careful, im allergic to this kind of juice." this play lost and the heavy juice was not subtracted from his units. only the 6* was subtracted where it should have been -11.1 units. he's obviously a proven winner, but his record keeping for this season is inflated by a huge amount. this is one of the main reasons i hate on this guy along with the 20 plays a day and the fact that he LOVES people like "boonedoggle" in his thread every hour, every day *slurp slurping* him.

yes sir. And I love the People that say he takes allot of dogs. He took Texas heavy and had no trouble hoping on the rays at -200 ish today hahah. if you loose u have to figure in juice not -6 or whatever they are. A true sharp won't go less that -155 tops!!!. He may be a winner but this number that he claims is not even close to accurate. Wanna shed some light on it. thanks for the post

[Broken-Ear Glen]

Is Juan Pierre the worst lead off hitter in baseball? Also, is this B. Morel a farm guy from the ChiSox?

[Greekisnotgolden]

And when his aveage win play is not 1* his average loss play sure is shit isn't 1* either, thus upping the juice. This is hopeless though, ppl will continue to follow and disregard math and obvious inflations. Good luck

[thedrifter]

MAY 25TH evidence 6* Boston -175 +6 win 1-0 4* Pitt -110 -4.4 Loss 1-1 5* DETROIT -130 PPd 5* UNDER 7.5 WASH -5.5 Loss 1-2 3* WASH + 160 -3 Loss 1-3 2* WASH + 1 1/2 ( -145 )-2.9 Loss 1-4 3* MINNY -100 -3 Loss 1-5 5* WSOX + 150 -5 Loss 1-6 3* OVER 8.5 WSOX -3.3 Loss 1-7 2* UNDER 8 HOUST +2 Win 2-7 8* UNDER 6.5 SD +8 Win 3-7 8* SD + 105 +8.4 Win 4-7 5* CINCI + 170 -5 Loss 4-8 AND 3* CINCI - 1 1/2 ( -140 ) this has to be a mistype so benefit of the doubt +3 5-8 3* BALTY - 145 ....+3 Win 6-8 2* OVER 8.5BALTY+2 Win 7-8 3* OVER 9 CUBS/ METS No Play game did not go 9 3* CUBS - 105 gl -3.15 Loss ( game counts total does not 7-9 YESTERDAYS MLB: 8-8 ( - 0.25 UNITS ) makes sense right? Real number 7-9 Minus 2.85 Real number using math folks. and I'm sure there are more

Dude... GET A LIFE?