Originally posted by Wallco99
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Bugs BunnySBR High Roller
- 07-02-09
- 129
#5251Thanks for the win, Wallco!Comment -
h00diniRestricted User
- 09-17-09
- 659
#5252*******hoodini system*******Originally posted by esaldivarhey h00dini is there a play for today?
thanks bro
v2. Baltimore 06/10. (A)
Note: V2 plays we go against. In this case we take Tampa.
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NZT-48SBR Wise Guy
- 05-29-11
- 522
#5253uh not always exaclty the case with losing 1 or 2 a yr not true and bad stats shouldnt be putting that out there he-man peace outOriginally posted by thelimit0310No plays for Wallco and a C bet for JM! Would be terrible for the followers to have a C bet loss so early on, but it could very well happen. The system loses on average 1 or 2 times per season. Still, let's be optimistic and cash this C bet tonight!Comment -
schenker88SBR MVP
- 01-13-10
- 1877
#5254hi master,Originally posted by h00dini*******hoodini system*******
v2. Baltimore 06/10. (A)
Note: V2 plays we go against. In this case we take Tampa.

may i ask...
whats ur su (straight up, not chase) record?Comment -
xgameSBR Wise Guy
- 07-21-10
- 675
#525550/50Originally posted by schenker88hi master, may i ask... Whats ur su (straight up, not chase) record?Comment -
esaldivarSBR Rookie
- 05-06-10
- 37
#5256thanks H00diniComment -
h00diniRestricted User
- 09-17-09
- 659
#5257Wassup my n I g g a !!!!!Originally posted by schenker88hi master,
may i ask...
whats ur su (straight up, not chase) record?
Master?
Straight up record? No such thang. You gotta chase the buck here bro.Comment -
h00diniRestricted User
- 09-17-09
- 659
#5258No prob.Originally posted by esaldivarthanks H00diniComment -
dukiplSBR Sharp
- 04-08-09
- 376
#5259good jobComment -
alexknycSBR Wise Guy
- 03-22-11
- 861
#5260Can someone explain to me the obsession with a straight up record?Originally posted by h00diniWassup my n I g g a !!!!! Master?
Straight up record? No such thang. You gotta chase the buck here bro.
I can go 1-36 and be up $$$ if my one win was a 50-unit bet and my 36 losses were 1-unit each. Conversely, I can go 36-1 and be down $$$. Wouldn't the total number of units (or money) up or down be a much better indicator of the strength of the system? Or am I missing something?Comment -
G's pksRestricted User
- 01-01-09
- 22251
#5261Originally posted by alexknycCan someone explain to me the obsession with a straight up record?
I can go 1-36 and be up $$$ if my one win was a 50-unit bet and my 36 losses were 1-unit each. Conversely, I can go 36-1 and be down $$$. Wouldn't the total number of units (or money) up or down be a much better indicator of the strength of the system? Or am I missing something?
Also beyond that the exact amount wagered and odds each game should be shown... not just to win this or that...that way you see the actual risk/reward...Comment -
dlunc3SBR Hall of Famer
- 10-31-09
- 9129
#5262Just so you guys know, this Det series is one of the stronger series for JM.. In my opinion, it should be a separate version then the normal JM V1... in my experience, when a team has a higher RPI rating (and should stay higher throughout the whole series), and is at home, it is a much stronger play.. so just a heads up that it might not be a bad idea to maybe put a little extra on this series
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Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-01-11
- 7262
#5263The odds are shown, it's called final lines at scoresandodds.com. The amounts are known by most on here 1, 2, 4 8 units. Everyone has a different amount they use for a unit, so there is no standard bet amount. When there is a unit change for certain bets (e.g.: Houston yesterday, and Arizona two weeks ago) these amounts are posted next to the play. We are dealing with mostly +money bets in this system, so our math is usually pretty simple. If people are bad at math, they should work on correcting that before continuing sports betting. Spoon feeding only goes so far.Originally posted by G's pksAlso beyond that the exact amount wagered and odds each game should be shown... not just to win this or that...that way you see the actual risk/reward...Comment -
G's pksRestricted User
- 01-01-09
- 22251
#5264Not sure why you thought this was about you...but I was referring to the posters comments on what is important to show...but as far as the spoon feeding I agree... My point I see to many threads across the board that will just say 2x, 4x, 8x basically until they win...than they seriously act like they are up 50 or 100 units...most people not saying all...are not wagering tons of money daily on these games...I do understand some are....but most are not... One of the biggest cappers on this forum hides his losing ways by doing the doubling to the moon until a win is shown theory...not anyone in this thread...Originally posted by Wallco99The odds are shown, it's called final lines at scoresandodds.com. The amounts are known by most on here 1, 2, 4 8 units. Everyone has a different amount they use for a unit, so there is no standard bet amount. When there is a unit change for certain bets (e.g.: Houston yesterday, and Arizona two weeks ago) these amounts are posted next to the play. We are dealing with mostly +money bets in this system, so our math is usually pretty simple. If people are bad at math, they should work on correcting that before continuing sports betting. Spoon feeding only goes so far.Comment -
bondi_slackerSBR High Roller
- 01-31-11
- 189
#5265Originally posted by G's pksNot sure why you thought this was about you...but I was referring to the posters comments on what is important to show...but as far as the spoon feeding I agree... My point I see to many threads across the board that will just say 2x, 4x, 8x basically until they win...than they seriously act like they are up 50 or 100 units...most people not saying all...are not wagering tons of money daily on these games...I do understand some are....but most are not... One of the biggest cappers on this forum hides his losing ways by doing the doubling to the moon until a win is shown theory...not anyone in this thread...
thank you G for opening my eyes
and thank you for posting bold,Comment -
Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-01-11
- 7262
#5266Not trying to start an argument, just thought you were asking me this, since I am the one doing the posting of one of the two systems. My daily updates have it broken down between +/- units for completed series, and +/- units for open series. Add the two #'s together and that is your overall total. Since it is not a game to game basis, the system only cares about completed series. But the individual open game losses are also listed. With so many people labbying, and others chasing, and yet others finding new ways to bet these series (Parlays for example), placing wager amounts next to bets seems almost useless and possibly more confusing to some. People basicically need to come in to these type of threads with a basic understanding of how chase betting works (or labby if that's what they use). They need to set their own amounts for A,B,C, and D, and when one of these letters appears next to the game, they will automatically know their bet amount (provided it is a +money bet, a -money bet would be slightly more because of the juice). It is not that my system or your system are "bad", they are completely different styles in an effort to attain different degrees of profit. My system is higher risk, I will admit that and in fact I have before I ever posted a single play. When you bet mostly +money bets, that system will have more losses, that is just common sense. But the losses can be recouped much quicker, and one individual loss is much cheaper than a 3 or 4 game loss on a high favorite. Some people like conservative, some don't. I'd like to think we are servicing everyone this way, instead of being at each other's throats like a couple of third graders. I never said we would win every bet, or said every season would be a winning season. I posted prior years results, post the plays based on those backtests, and assume the people reading them are mature enough to manage their own money, based on the knowledge of 10-15 losses per season and the extensive number of plays. We stop at "D" win or lose, hence the losses. It's just that you seemed shocked that we have 6 losses, when in fact, every season to date had had several more and produced incredible profits, with the exception of "death year", which was also disclosed to everyone. Everyone is just so used to the systems that advertise the undefeated records or only one loss. But look at the giant risks that are taken at times to acheive those victories on the large (-money) teams. Mine is the opposite of that, we will: 1.) lose more games, 2.)win more money on our victories, and 3.) spend less on the average loss. #2 and #3 make up for #1Originally posted by G's pksNot sure why you thought this was about you...but I was referring to the posters comments on what is important to show...but as far as the spoon feeding I agree... My point I see to many threads across the board that will just say 2x, 4x, 8x basically until they win...than they seriously act like they are up 50 or 100 units...most people not saying all...are not wagering tons of money daily on these games...I do understand some are....but most are not... One of the biggest cappers on this forum hides his losing ways by doing the doubling to the moon until a win is shown theory...not anyone in this thread...Comment -
million2oneSBR MVP
- 03-19-09
- 1290
#5267This is sound advice I always do this. Good eye.Originally posted by dlunc3Just so you guys know, this Det series is one of the stronger series for JM.. In my opinion, it should be a separate version then the normal JM V1... in my experience, when a team has a higher RPI rating (and should stay higher throughout the whole series), and is at home, it is a much stronger play.. so just a heads up that it might not be a bad idea to maybe put a little extra on this series
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oklahomaSBR Wise Guy
- 11-22-10
- 602
#52682 hours delayed, yanks warming up. tigers already cashed
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knugenSBR MVP
- 12-09-09
- 2612
#5269Nooo Yanks, Dont Lise this one nowComment -
knugenSBR MVP
- 12-09-09
- 2612
#5270Aahh, what are Yanks doing, and here we lose the C bet on yanks
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peeiempeeSBR MVP
- 01-21-09
- 2750
#5271Wow a V3 loss on Kansas last week. Now a straight up loss on Yanks (at least it looks that way). I need Reds to hold on I went big on them.Comment -
peeiempeeSBR MVP
- 01-21-09
- 2750
#52727-2 at least I got the overComment -
1gamerSBR Wise Guy
- 02-09-11
- 723
#5273Talk about a total fuk'n implosion
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NZT-48SBR Wise Guy
- 05-29-11
- 522
#5274fking great how nice Yankees are now the fking worst how can u chalk up 7 runs in one inning while being up 2-0 throughout 80% of the fking game un fking real man nice job a ssholes just my bankroll no big deal......
so here comes the excuses from JM oh we shouldnt have bet it b/c the Red Sox were in the top 3 of the rpi listing and so forth what a joke Im just about done in dealing with this crap who in the hell would have thought the fking Yankees would lose 6 fking times in a row to the Red Sox they should be shot they are completely worthless go f uck yourself NYC waste of space u are
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knugenSBR MVP
- 12-09-09
- 2612
#5275Yeah, this C loss and crusher have lost 9 favs game in à row, bye bye bankrollComment -
NZT-48SBR Wise Guy
- 05-29-11
- 522
#5276feels great doesnt it? we must be the only ones up noticing this nice beating now I couldnt watch the game so I watched the NBA Finals game 5 much better outcome there for sureOriginally posted by knugenYeah, this C loss and crusher have lost 9 favs game in à row, bye bye bankrollComment -
oklahomaSBR Wise Guy
- 11-22-10
- 602
#5277yanks swept twice by redsox
brutal. good thing wallcos system has plays almost everyday or else this would hurt even more.
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peeiempeeSBR MVP
- 01-21-09
- 2750
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NZT-48SBR Wise Guy
- 05-29-11
- 522
#5279yep ok Im guess I'm not the only ones seeing this crap putting up a 7 ball in the top of the 7th inning as well to boot how charming of them this is now a fked season its gonna take the rest of this mos for me to get back to where I Was at how nice uhOriginally posted by peeiempee






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WilbaSBR Wise Guy
- 10-29-10
- 702
#5280It's called sport.Originally posted by NZT-48fking great how nice Yankees are now the fking worst how can u chalk up 7 runs in one inning while being up 2-0 throughout 80% of the fking game un fking real man nice job a ssholes just my bankroll no big deal......
so here comes the excuses from JM oh we shouldnt have bet it b/c the Red Sox were in the top 3 of the rpi listing and so forth what a joke Im just about done in dealing with this crap who in the hell would have thought the fking Yankees would lose 6 fking times in a row to the Red Sox they should be shot they are completely worthless go f uck yourself NYC waste of space u are
once you follow it for a while you realize that things like this are not very uncommon
I wish I was awesome enough to post in bold like the G-manComment -
thelimit0310SBR MVP
- 01-24-11
- 1233
#5281Guessin you went big tonight? Yeah a loss this early is pretty bad for followers, the lines werent very good on top of that.Originally posted by NZT-48fking great how nice Yankees are now the fking worst how can u chalk up 7 runs in one inning while being up 2-0 throughout 80% of the fking game un fking real man nice job a ssholes just my bankroll no big deal......
so here comes the excuses from JM oh we shouldnt have bet it b/c the Red Sox were in the top 3 of the rpi listing and so forth what a joke Im just about done in dealing with this crap who in the hell would have thought the fking Yankees would lose 6 fking times in a row to the Red Sox they should be shot they are completely worthless go f uck yourself NYC waste of space u are
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knugenSBR MVP
- 12-09-09
- 2612
#5282Oh man on 2nd and 3rd, maybe maybeComment -
oklahomaSBR Wise Guy
- 11-22-10
- 602
#5283lol that was like salt in the wounds. yea lets get on base when we have no chance.Originally posted by knugenOh man on 2nd and 3rd, maybe maybeComment -
Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-01-11
- 7262
#5284Bad news after reading this, for the first time this season, no series qualify. Three day break from MLB PLU$$$. Really hate to do this, but I wouldn't feel right posting bogus plays. Hopefully Monday we are back in action.Originally posted by oklahomayanks swept twice by redsox
brutal. good thing wallcos system has plays almost everyday or else this would hurt even more.Comment -
Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-01-11
- 7262
#5285This is when the -1 1/2 bet strategy really pays off, same loss would have won more if it hit, since it didn't, only took 7 unit hit for whole series. I can live with that.Originally posted by thelimit0310Guessin you went big tonight? Yeah a loss this early is pretty bad for followers, the lines werent very good on top of that.Comment
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