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  • Bugs Bunny
    SBR High Roller
    • 07-02-09
    • 129

    #5251
    Originally posted by Wallco99
    Wallco MLB PLU$$$ 2011 System to date: 87-6 System profit/loss: +18.73 units (finished series) Since my first post: -1.54 units (72-6) (fin. series) Current open series: 0 (6/8/11) Houston (M/L) (B) – Win (6/8/11) Boston (M/L) (B) – Win (A) 46-43 (B) 20-25 (C) 12-13 (D) 7-6 There are no system plays for (6/9/11) ** Do not place any wagers on teams unless the word “Official” appears next to the game. All lines and standings are based on final lines from ScoresandOdds.com. Some of the unofficial plays may change to the other team by game time. Official plays will not change. Keep checking for updated posts until all games are marked “official”. If your book is offering (+1½) on the (-1½) plays above, buy the alternate line for (-1½) on the team I have listed at (-1½), not the other team. NEVER PLAY (+1½) LINE ON ANY GAME IN THIS SYSTEM. System backtest can be found in post #3446.
    Thanks for the win, Wallco!
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    • h00dini
      Restricted User
      • 09-17-09
      • 659

      #5252
      Originally posted by esaldivar
      hey h00dini is there a play for today?

      thanks bro
      *******hoodini system*******

      v2. Baltimore 06/10. (A)

      Note: V2 plays we go against. In this case we take Tampa.
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      • NZT-48
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 05-29-11
        • 522

        #5253
        Originally posted by thelimit0310
        No plays for Wallco and a C bet for JM! Would be terrible for the followers to have a C bet loss so early on, but it could very well happen. The system loses on average 1 or 2 times per season. Still, let's be optimistic and cash this C bet tonight!
        uh not always exaclty the case with losing 1 or 2 a yr not true and bad stats shouldnt be putting that out there he-man peace out
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        • schenker88
          SBR MVP
          • 01-13-10
          • 1877

          #5254
          Originally posted by h00dini
          *******hoodini system*******

          v2. Baltimore 06/10. (A)

          Note: V2 plays we go against. In this case we take Tampa.
          hi master,

          may i ask...
          whats ur su (straight up, not chase) record?
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          • xgame
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 07-21-10
            • 675

            #5255
            Originally posted by schenker88
            hi master, may i ask... Whats ur su (straight up, not chase) record?
            50/50
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            • esaldivar
              SBR Rookie
              • 05-06-10
              • 37

              #5256
              thanks H00dini
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              • h00dini
                Restricted User
                • 09-17-09
                • 659

                #5257
                Originally posted by schenker88
                hi master,

                may i ask...
                whats ur su (straight up, not chase) record?
                Wassup my n I g g a !!!!!

                Master?

                Straight up record? No such thang. You gotta chase the buck here bro.
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                • h00dini
                  Restricted User
                  • 09-17-09
                  • 659

                  #5258
                  Originally posted by esaldivar
                  thanks H00dini
                  No prob.
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                  • dukipl
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 04-08-09
                    • 376

                    #5259
                    good job
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                    • alexknyc
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 03-22-11
                      • 861

                      #5260
                      Originally posted by h00dini
                      Wassup my n I g g a !!!!! Master? Straight up record? No such thang. You gotta chase the buck here bro.
                      Can someone explain to me the obsession with a straight up record?

                      I can go 1-36 and be up $$$ if my one win was a 50-unit bet and my 36 losses were 1-unit each. Conversely, I can go 36-1 and be down $$$. Wouldn't the total number of units (or money) up or down be a much better indicator of the strength of the system? Or am I missing something?
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                      • G's pks
                        Restricted User
                        • 01-01-09
                        • 22251

                        #5261
                        Originally posted by alexknyc
                        Can someone explain to me the obsession with a straight up record?

                        I can go 1-36 and be up $$$ if my one win was a 50-unit bet and my 36 losses were 1-unit each. Conversely, I can go 36-1 and be down $$$. Wouldn't the total number of units (or money) up or down be a much better indicator of the strength of the system? Or am I missing something?

                        Also beyond that the exact amount wagered and odds each game should be shown... not just to win this or that...that way you see the actual risk/reward...
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                        • dlunc3
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 10-31-09
                          • 9129

                          #5262
                          Just so you guys know, this Det series is one of the stronger series for JM.. In my opinion, it should be a separate version then the normal JM V1... in my experience, when a team has a higher RPI rating (and should stay higher throughout the whole series), and is at home, it is a much stronger play.. so just a heads up that it might not be a bad idea to maybe put a little extra on this series
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                          • Wallco99
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 01-01-11
                            • 7261

                            #5263
                            Originally posted by G's pks
                            Also beyond that the exact amount wagered and odds each game should be shown... not just to win this or that...that way you see the actual risk/reward...
                            The odds are shown, it's called final lines at scoresandodds.com. The amounts are known by most on here 1, 2, 4 8 units. Everyone has a different amount they use for a unit, so there is no standard bet amount. When there is a unit change for certain bets (e.g.: Houston yesterday, and Arizona two weeks ago) these amounts are posted next to the play. We are dealing with mostly +money bets in this system, so our math is usually pretty simple. If people are bad at math, they should work on correcting that before continuing sports betting. Spoon feeding only goes so far.
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                            • G's pks
                              Restricted User
                              • 01-01-09
                              • 22251

                              #5264
                              Originally posted by Wallco99
                              The odds are shown, it's called final lines at scoresandodds.com. The amounts are known by most on here 1, 2, 4 8 units. Everyone has a different amount they use for a unit, so there is no standard bet amount. When there is a unit change for certain bets (e.g.: Houston yesterday, and Arizona two weeks ago) these amounts are posted next to the play. We are dealing with mostly +money bets in this system, so our math is usually pretty simple. If people are bad at math, they should work on correcting that before continuing sports betting. Spoon feeding only goes so far.
                              Not sure why you thought this was about you...but I was referring to the posters comments on what is important to show...but as far as the spoon feeding I agree... My point I see to many threads across the board that will just say 2x, 4x, 8x basically until they win...than they seriously act like they are up 50 or 100 units...most people not saying all...are not wagering tons of money daily on these games...I do understand some are....but most are not... One of the biggest cappers on this forum hides his losing ways by doing the doubling to the moon until a win is shown theory...not anyone in this thread...
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                              • bondi_slacker
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 01-31-11
                                • 189

                                #5265
                                Originally posted by G's pks
                                Not sure why you thought this was about you...but I was referring to the posters comments on what is important to show...but as far as the spoon feeding I agree... My point I see to many threads across the board that will just say 2x, 4x, 8x basically until they win...than they seriously act like they are up 50 or 100 units...most people not saying all...are not wagering tons of money daily on these games...I do understand some are....but most are not... One of the biggest cappers on this forum hides his losing ways by doing the doubling to the moon until a win is shown theory...not anyone in this thread...

                                thank you G for opening my eyes

                                and thank you for posting bold,
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                                • Wallco99
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 01-01-11
                                  • 7261

                                  #5266
                                  Originally posted by G's pks
                                  Not sure why you thought this was about you...but I was referring to the posters comments on what is important to show...but as far as the spoon feeding I agree... My point I see to many threads across the board that will just say 2x, 4x, 8x basically until they win...than they seriously act like they are up 50 or 100 units...most people not saying all...are not wagering tons of money daily on these games...I do understand some are....but most are not... One of the biggest cappers on this forum hides his losing ways by doing the doubling to the moon until a win is shown theory...not anyone in this thread...
                                  Not trying to start an argument, just thought you were asking me this, since I am the one doing the posting of one of the two systems. My daily updates have it broken down between +/- units for completed series, and +/- units for open series. Add the two #'s together and that is your overall total. Since it is not a game to game basis, the system only cares about completed series. But the individual open game losses are also listed. With so many people labbying, and others chasing, and yet others finding new ways to bet these series (Parlays for example), placing wager amounts next to bets seems almost useless and possibly more confusing to some. People basicically need to come in to these type of threads with a basic understanding of how chase betting works (or labby if that's what they use). They need to set their own amounts for A,B,C, and D, and when one of these letters appears next to the game, they will automatically know their bet amount (provided it is a +money bet, a -money bet would be slightly more because of the juice). It is not that my system or your system are "bad", they are completely different styles in an effort to attain different degrees of profit. My system is higher risk, I will admit that and in fact I have before I ever posted a single play. When you bet mostly +money bets, that system will have more losses, that is just common sense. But the losses can be recouped much quicker, and one individual loss is much cheaper than a 3 or 4 game loss on a high favorite. Some people like conservative, some don't. I'd like to think we are servicing everyone this way, instead of being at each other's throats like a couple of third graders. I never said we would win every bet, or said every season would be a winning season. I posted prior years results, post the plays based on those backtests, and assume the people reading them are mature enough to manage their own money, based on the knowledge of 10-15 losses per season and the extensive number of plays. We stop at "D" win or lose, hence the losses. It's just that you seemed shocked that we have 6 losses, when in fact, every season to date had had several more and produced incredible profits, with the exception of "death year", which was also disclosed to everyone. Everyone is just so used to the systems that advertise the undefeated records or only one loss. But look at the giant risks that are taken at times to acheive those victories on the large (-money) teams. Mine is the opposite of that, we will: 1.) lose more games, 2.)win more money on our victories, and 3.) spend less on the average loss. #2 and #3 make up for #1
                                  Last edited by Wallco99; 06-09-11, 07:52 PM.
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                                  • million2one
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 03-19-09
                                    • 1290

                                    #5267
                                    Originally posted by dlunc3
                                    Just so you guys know, this Det series is one of the stronger series for JM.. In my opinion, it should be a separate version then the normal JM V1... in my experience, when a team has a higher RPI rating (and should stay higher throughout the whole series), and is at home, it is a much stronger play.. so just a heads up that it might not be a bad idea to maybe put a little extra on this series
                                    This is sound advice I always do this. Good eye.
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                                    • oklahoma
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 11-22-10
                                      • 602

                                      #5268
                                      2 hours delayed, yanks warming up. tigers already cashed
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                                      • knugen
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 12-09-09
                                        • 2612

                                        #5269
                                        Nooo Yanks, Dont Lise this one now
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                                        • knugen
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 12-09-09
                                          • 2612

                                          #5270
                                          Aahh, what are Yanks doing, and here we lose the C bet on yanks
                                          Last edited by knugen; 06-09-11, 11:53 PM.
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                                          • peeiempee
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 01-21-09
                                            • 2750

                                            #5271
                                            Wow a V3 loss on Kansas last week. Now a straight up loss on Yanks (at least it looks that way). I need Reds to hold on I went big on them.
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                                            • peeiempee
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-21-09
                                              • 2750

                                              #5272
                                              7-2 at least I got the over
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                                              • 1gamer
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 02-09-11
                                                • 723

                                                #5273
                                                Talk about a total fuk'n implosion
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                                                • NZT-48
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 05-29-11
                                                  • 522

                                                  #5274
                                                  fking great how nice Yankees are now the fking worst how can u chalk up 7 runs in one inning while being up 2-0 throughout 80% of the fking game un fking real man nice job a ssholes just my bankroll no big deal......

                                                  so here comes the excuses from JM oh we shouldnt have bet it b/c the Red Sox were in the top 3 of the rpi listing and so forth what a joke Im just about done in dealing with this crap who in the hell would have thought the fking Yankees would lose 6 fking times in a row to the Red Sox they should be shot they are completely worthless go f uck yourself NYC waste of space u are
                                                  Last edited by NZT-48; 06-10-11, 12:04 AM.
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                                                  • knugen
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 12-09-09
                                                    • 2612

                                                    #5275
                                                    Yeah, this C loss and crusher have lost 9 favs game in à row, bye bye bankroll
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                                                    • NZT-48
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 05-29-11
                                                      • 522

                                                      #5276
                                                      Originally posted by knugen
                                                      Yeah, this C loss and crusher have lost 9 favs game in à row, bye bye bankroll
                                                      feels great doesnt it? we must be the only ones up noticing this nice beating now I couldnt watch the game so I watched the NBA Finals game 5 much better outcome there for sure
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                                                      • oklahoma
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 11-22-10
                                                        • 602

                                                        #5277
                                                        yanks swept twice by redsox brutal. good thing wallcos system has plays almost everyday or else this would hurt even more.
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                                                        • peeiempee
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 01-21-09
                                                          • 2750

                                                          #5278
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                                                          • NZT-48
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 05-29-11
                                                            • 522

                                                            #5279
                                                            Originally posted by peeiempee
                                                            yep ok Im guess I'm not the only ones seeing this crap putting up a 7 ball in the top of the 7th inning as well to boot how charming of them this is now a fked season its gonna take the rest of this mos for me to get back to where I Was at how nice uh
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                                                            • Wilba
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 10-29-10
                                                              • 702

                                                              #5280
                                                              Originally posted by NZT-48
                                                              fking great how nice Yankees are now the fking worst how can u chalk up 7 runs in one inning while being up 2-0 throughout 80% of the fking game un fking real man nice job a ssholes just my bankroll no big deal......

                                                              so here comes the excuses from JM oh we shouldnt have bet it b/c the Red Sox were in the top 3 of the rpi listing and so forth what a joke Im just about done in dealing with this crap who in the hell would have thought the fking Yankees would lose 6 fking times in a row to the Red Sox they should be shot they are completely worthless go f uck yourself NYC waste of space u are
                                                              It's called sport.

                                                              once you follow it for a while you realize that things like this are not very uncommon

                                                              I wish I was awesome enough to post in bold like the G-man
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                                                              • thelimit0310
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 01-24-11
                                                                • 1233

                                                                #5281
                                                                Originally posted by NZT-48
                                                                fking great how nice Yankees are now the fking worst how can u chalk up 7 runs in one inning while being up 2-0 throughout 80% of the fking game un fking real man nice job a ssholes just my bankroll no big deal......

                                                                so here comes the excuses from JM oh we shouldnt have bet it b/c the Red Sox were in the top 3 of the rpi listing and so forth what a joke Im just about done in dealing with this crap who in the hell would have thought the fking Yankees would lose 6 fking times in a row to the Red Sox they should be shot they are completely worthless go f uck yourself NYC waste of space u are
                                                                Guessin you went big tonight? Yeah a loss this early is pretty bad for followers, the lines werent very good on top of that.
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                                                                • knugen
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 12-09-09
                                                                  • 2612

                                                                  #5282
                                                                  Oh man on 2nd and 3rd, maybe maybe
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                                                                  • oklahoma
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 11-22-10
                                                                    • 602

                                                                    #5283
                                                                    Originally posted by knugen
                                                                    Oh man on 2nd and 3rd, maybe maybe
                                                                    lol that was like salt in the wounds. yea lets get on base when we have no chance.
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                                                                    • Wallco99
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 01-01-11
                                                                      • 7261

                                                                      #5284
                                                                      Originally posted by oklahoma
                                                                      yanks swept twice by redsox brutal. good thing wallcos system has plays almost everyday or else this would hurt even more.
                                                                      Bad news after reading this, for the first time this season, no series qualify. Three day break from MLB PLU$$$. Really hate to do this, but I wouldn't feel right posting bogus plays. Hopefully Monday we are back in action.
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                                                                      • Wallco99
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 01-01-11
                                                                        • 7261

                                                                        #5285
                                                                        Originally posted by thelimit0310
                                                                        Guessin you went big tonight? Yeah a loss this early is pretty bad for followers, the lines werent very good on top of that.
                                                                        This is when the -1 1/2 bet strategy really pays off, same loss would have won more if it hit, since it didn't, only took 7 unit hit for whole series. I can live with that.
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