John Morrison 2011 MLB

**dlunc3** · 06-06-11, 08:07 AM

How is that an insult? It was friendly joking basically saying how hard handicapping can be.. where is the insult? Chill out G baby.. all here to win money.. why not have some fun in the meantime?

**GGPLAYER** · 06-06-11, 08:08 AM

There are a lot of people in here that need to go outside and let the sunshine hit their faces.

**thelimit0310** · 06-06-11, 08:10 AM

G's, if your going to start an argument then please do it in your thread and not here. I'm tired of people in this thread causing arguments.

**rickbo528** · 06-06-11, 08:15 AM

Why is this thread titled John Morrison MLB when very little of it has to do with JM system plays. Seems to be all about Wallco99. Would cut down on confusion if a separate thread would be started for one or the other.

**thelimit0310** · 06-06-11, 08:17 AM

Originally posted by rickbo528

Why is this thread titled John Morrison MLB when very little of it has to do with JM system plays. Seems to be all about Wallco99. Would cut down on confusion if a separate thread would be started for one or the other.

Your late to party bud. This thread is for JM and Wallco and anyone else who wants to share their ideas and systems, the thread is a think tank. If you want only JM plays, search posts by Hagball, he updates every play. There have only been 7 official plays this season for JM so there wouldn't be much to talk about if we all left and started separate threads.

**BCC585** · 06-06-11, 08:19 AM

Originally posted by rickbo528

Why is this thread titled John Morrison MLB when very little of it has to do with JM system plays. Seems to be all about Wallco99. Would cut down on confusion if a separate thread would be started for one or the other.

I also think it would cut down the highschool drama in here.

**Wallco99** · 06-06-11, 08:34 AM

Originally posted by rickbo528

Why is this thread titled John Morrison MLB when very little of it has to do with JM system plays. Seems to be all about Wallco99. Would cut down on confusion if a separate thread would be started for one or the other.

The last five days, about 12 new systems have been brought in here, most not backtested, and twenty five 17" posts per page, on how labby system should be implemented every hour on the hour for these experimental systems, yet you single out MLB PLU$$$ as the cause for thread confusion, when I have been here from the beginning. I would think the "system of the day" guys are causing just a little more than me. If people want to put other systems on here that is up to them and all of you to decide. But when all this ridiculousness is going on in here, and you single me out, is where I draw the line. There was a real nice flow in here a couple of weeks back, it is definitely taking a change for the worse. But I can tell you this, other than a couple system losses, I've done nothing differently to add to the clutter.

**hagball52** · 06-06-11, 08:49 AM

JM MLB System

2011 Official season series record 8-0 (v1)
(A) 5-3
(B) 2-1
(C) 1-0
V2 plays 1-0
V3 system 1-1
Unofficial series 6-0

V3
(6/05/2011) Kansas City (.479) v Minnesota (.455) M/L (C) Loss

Next play
(6/06/2011) Baltimore (.488)v Oakland (.489) M/L (A) (6/07 (B) and 6/08 (C) if necessary)

Upcoming plays
(6/07/2011) NY Yankees v Boston
(6/09/2011) Detroit v Seattle

JM NBA Official Play

(6/05/2011) Miami @ Dallas (A) Win

Notes: That (C) bet loss on KAN hurt a lot of you. I didn't play it until the final game so I only lost a little. Congrats to everyone on the MIA basketball game. You won it it no matter how you played it. Pointspread or money line, no need to buy the points. I posted a slight error yesterday concerning the sweeps. There was only 5 possible and not six, the other one is today (FLA/MIL). There were 4 actual sweeps yesterday so get your JM calenders and mark "em down:
KAN @ MIN (7/14)
CHC @ STL (7/29)
CLE @ TEX (8/05)
OAK @ BOS (8/26)
All of the JM V1 bets look good this week. Let's amass a sickening fortune.

**Wallco99** · 06-06-11, 09:23 AM

Wallco MLB PLU$$$
2011 System to date: 82-6
System profit/loss: +11.88 units (finished series)
Since my first post: -8.39 units (67-6) (fin. series)
Current open series: 0

(6/5/11) Detroit (M/L) #1 (C) - Win
(6/5/11) Detroit (M/L) #2 (C) – Win

(A) 45-43
(B) 18-25
(C) 12-13
(D) 7-6

Games for (6/6/11):
Detroit (M/L) @ Texas (A) *Official* (8:05 pm EDT)

There are several more series starting tomorrow.

** Do not place any wagers on teams unless the word “Official” appears next to the game. All lines and standings are based on final lines from ScoresandOdds.com. Some of the unofficial plays may change to the other team by game time. Official plays will not change. Keep checking for updated posts until all games are marked “official”.
System backtest can be found in post #3446.

**grecycle99** · 06-06-11, 09:58 AM

Great wins Thanks wallco

GL

**oklahoma** · 06-06-11, 10:22 AM

perfect post timing wallco and hagball, both systems posted right after the other. bol tonight

**hagball52** · 06-06-11, 10:57 AM

Here's an update JM System Plays.
4/25 MIL v CIN Win [B] 4/26 O
5/02 LAA @ BOS Win [C] 5/04 O
5/03 SEA v TEX Win [A] U
5/06 TAM @ BAL Win [A] O
5/09 NYM @ COL Win [A] O
5/09 CHW @ LAA Win [A] U
5/13 SEA @ CLE Win [A] U
5/13 BAL @ TAM Win [B] 5/14 O
5/23 BOS @ CLE Win [B] 5/24 U
5/23 MIL v WAS Win [A] O
5/30 SEA v BAL Win [A] O
5/30 WAS v PHI Win [A] U
6/02 MIN @ KAN Win [A] U
6/03 CHW v DET Win [A] O
6/06 BAL v OAK
6/07 NYY v BOS
6/09 DET V SEA
6/14 DET v CLE
6/14 ARI v SFO
6/17 OAK v SFO
7/01 CIN v CLE
7/01 SDG @ SEA
7/04 STL v CIN
7/04 MIN v TAM
7/14 KAN @ MIN
7/14 COL v MIL
7/14 BAL v CLE
7/21 MIN v DET
7/22 OAK @ NYY
7/22 CHC v HOU
7/22 SDG @ PHI
7/29 CHC @ STL
7/29 BOS @ CHW
7/29 KAN v CLE
8/02 KAN v BAL
8/05 CLE @ TEX
8/08 HOU @ ARI
8/12 SFO @ FLA
8/12 PIT @ MIL
8/12 ARI v NYM
8/15 SFO @ ATL
8/22 BOS @ TEX
8/26 OAK @ BOS
9/09 PIT v FLA
9/12 HOU v PHI

V3 System Plays
5/10 LAA v CHW Win [A]
6/03 KAN v MIN Loss [C] 6/05

The team on the left is the one to bet on. This is a running account on the JM MLB plays. It is every play and does not show R/L or M/L. The O stands for Official and the U for Unofficial. It’s just my personal updateable list. I’ll post it from time to time just so all of you can keep up. The JM MLB System page will have the scores broken down. Hope this helps.

P.S. Also added V3.

**shermanator** · 06-06-11, 11:19 AM

lets go detroit tiger

**COYLO** · 06-06-11, 11:23 AM

good to see you back on track wallco

good luck guy's with your bet's

**knugen** · 06-06-11, 11:42 AM

hhmm im already on rangers with crusher, and pretty heavy on them also, actually i hope detroit goes to B bet...

**Wallco99** · 06-06-11, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by knugen

hhmm im already on rangers with crusher, and pretty heavy on them also, actually i hope detroit goes to B bet...

Me too! With exception of the Crusher part.

**BigOrangeBrother** · 06-06-11, 12:03 PM

New week, new series.....here we go!!

**xanderxxx93** · 06-06-11, 12:10 PM

Do anyone know which are the B bets for SSS today?

**GGRIF82** · 06-06-11, 12:13 PM

Sorry,im on texas!
Looking at the runs they have scored over the last three sereis!!!!!
Starting with tb-unreal!

**peeiempee** · 06-06-11, 12:27 PM

Originally posted by xanderxxx93

Do anyone know which are the B bets for SSS today?

There are no B plays today B plays were yesterday. Won Phillies at B, Won Rays at A and LOST Indians RL at B. If you played their system at $100 per play since 5/28 you would be -419. Their daily plays you would be -14 units. Gonna monitor them for a couple more months.

**peeiempee** · 06-06-11, 12:35 PM

Originally posted by bauerranch

After the losses by Wallco last week I went heavier on KC to make up for my losses- If I would of just stayed with Walco I would of made money and now I have dug my hole deeper. Poor money management on my part!

You didn't read my post about sticking witht he system that got you in the hole in the 1st place did you? All good, I think Plus Money system should go a long way without another D bet loss, at least law of averages says this. Damn that V3 JM is a joke. Very few plays and doesn't win. I feel sorry for those that did preemp V3.

**peeiempee** · 06-06-11, 12:37 PM

With so many sweeps this year and teams being more or less within reach of playoffs, this might be real good for V1.

**xanderxxx93** · 06-06-11, 01:55 PM

Originally posted by J.M. Disciple

I believe i posted that i was stopping my under system, even though it is currently showing almost a 5 unit profit so far this month. Reason being is not because i think it will fail long run, but because of my bankroll. I talked about how many systems I am running and if a few of the systems lose 3 or 4 games each, then im going to be in trouble, so i dropped the under system for now. I have a friend following all the unders and overs using labby though, so maybe he will post his results or weekly updates... We shall see. For those of you following my labby system with Division leaders, I think i've been doing the labby slightly wrong. Even though i am very confident in my system and some find it arrogant or annoying, i apologize for that, but i'm always looking for feed back on how to improve it and i keep an open mind to other ideas of how to best run the labby. With 4 losses in a row running 1 # per line with 4 labby lines Day 1: 5 5 5 5 day 2 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 day 3 5 5 10 5 5 10 5 5 10 5 5 10 day 4 5 5 10 15 5 5 10 15 5 5 10 15 5 5 10 15 Ending lines 5 5 10 15 20 5 5 10 15 20 5 5 10 15 20 5 5 10 15 20 *note this does not take into account juice of the sports sites. Other way of doing this labby is starting with 2 #s per line. Instead of doing 1 full unit at the beginning of the line, split it into two ½ units. Day 1 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 day 2 2.5 2.5 5 2.5 2.5 5 2.5 2.5 5 2.5 2.5 5 day 3 2.5 / 2.5 / 5 / 7.50 2.5 / 2.5 / 5 / 7.50 2.5 / 2.5 / 5 / 7.50 2.5 / 2.5 / 5 / 7.50 Day 4 2.5 / 2.5 / 5 / 7.50 /10 Ending lines 2.5 / 2.5 / 5 / 7.50 /10 / 12.5 Basically what this shows is starting with 2#s on your line will basically cut your variance in half! With certain variations of wins and losses, it may take 1 extra game to clear your line, but I think that is well worth cutting your variance in half. Welcome to do your labby however you want, but this is how I will be doing it after today.

great JMD, I looked over the documents you have uploaded, tell me please why do you bet the total amount of the first and last number? why don t you bet the amount of the first three numbers?

AT you UNDER|over system did you do the same thing? replacing a cleared line with one unit no? so did you bet the amount of first and last number, at u\o?

**GGPLAYER** · 06-06-11, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by knugen

hhmm im already on rangers with crusher, and pretty heavy on them also, actually i hope detroit goes to B bet...

I assume you follow these Crusher plays closely. Is it a chase? I know he has lost 5 in a row.

**NZT-48** · 06-06-11, 03:58 PM

Originally posted by soldier1047

Hate to break you the news-JJ doesnt follow his own system. If you follow his criteria, there are two losses, but if you follow his emails there is one loss. Check out the other forum that follows his criteria strictly and you will see their list of series losses. There must be one reason for this-he handicap the series play.

Bottom line- There are holes in the system- No Consistency!

hey solider I know what u mean by him not truly following what the true plays are b/c there have been about 5-10 extra plays according to his system that he did not send out via email very true as to WHY????........

well Im not sure as to why but when he has emailed them out this season he has gone with the record I pasted with only 1 loss I ONLY go by what he emails out maybe he has new filters out in place for those other possible plays I dont know and so no Im not looking to kiss up or defend the guy I could care less just stating what Ive seen and facts is all

and Im not sure what other threads you have seen about him but Kev the Brit started a thread about his MLB 1.1 system and basically no one replys to it so not sure what else to say to that I hope that helps and clarifys things properly for others if anybody cares the MLB 1.1 system is on the Phillies (ML) he has other plays on his other system I can post them if anyone would like to see them

**NZT-48** · 06-06-11, 04:02 PM

Originally posted by rickbo528

Why is this thread titled John Morrison MLB when very little of it has to do with JM system plays. Seems to be all about Wallco99. Would cut down on confusion if a separate thread would be started for one or the other.

NO S HIT!!!!! but people cannot help themselves and act as if they are the next superstar capper or system creator just leave talk about true bought systems like JM or JJ thats it the other stuff has no place in here specificly clowns who have lost 4 straight D bet progression series and tells no one how it works b/c he's selling it? LOL!!!!!! funny always good for a laugh on this site

**jolmscheid** · 06-06-11, 04:38 PM

Hey guys...I know that this thread has a lot going on so please forgive me but just need to ask if anyone can show me the past results of morrisons systems the past few years with the avg odds etc? I am looking to do a 2 game chase with his systems but am wondering if it is better to chase the A and B bet only or the B and C bet only? I believe JMD showed that the basketball system is better on the B and C bets only....is this true for all of morrisons systems? And do we really need to buy points and play runlines and pucklines, etc? Its just a lot of juice to pay....anyways I would really appreciate some help as I think everyone could benefit from doing only 2 game chases...look forward to some insight...thanks so much guys..

**thelimit0310** · 06-06-11, 04:51 PM

Originally posted by jolmscheid

Hey guys...I know that this thread has a lot going on so please forgive me but just need to ask if anyone can show me the past results of morrisons systems the past few years with the avg odds etc? I am looking to do a 2 game chase with his systems but am wondering if it is better to chase the A and B bet only or the B and C bet only? I believe JMD showed that the basketball system is better on the B and C bets only....is this true for all of morrisons systems? And do we really need to buy points and play runlines and pucklines, etc? Its just a lot of juice to pay....anyways I would really appreciate some help as I think everyone could benefit from doing only 2 game chases...look forward to some insight...thanks so much guys..

The only system you should tweak is JM NBA, by not playing A bets. His MLB and NHL A bets have a good winning percentage. Unless you labby line you will need to play the Puck and Run lines, they will cause a few extra losses each season.

**goodone** · 06-06-11, 04:57 PM

Originally posted by thelimit0310

The only system you should tweak is JM NBA, by not playing A bets. His MLB and NHL A bets have a good winning percentage. Unless you labby line you will need to play the Puck and Run lines, they will cause a few extra losses each season.

Couldn't have said it better! In the meantime: I'm today on DET (Wallco), BAL (JM), SF (Personal pick) Time to cash!!

**BigBlue77** · 06-06-11, 05:02 PM

Anyone's book have Baltimore at +1.5 RL? I have 3 books (all locals) and 1 has it at +1.5RL. I am taking ML regardless, but Morrison may grade it a winner if Baltimore loses by 1 run.

**J.M. Disciple** · 06-06-11, 05:35 PM

Division Leaders ML
run 6 Labby lines
averaging out the lines.
AL west: Texas
AL east: NYY
AL Cent: Cle
NL CENT STL
NL west: SF
NL east: Phi
$5 UNIT SIZE

$$$ PRINTING SYSTEM

Date TEAM RISK TO WIN
(6/6) phi vs LAD ($13.14 to win $6.57)
(6/6) Cle vs min ($10.18 to win $6.57)
(6/6) Tex vs Det ($21.68 to win $13.14)
(6/6) SF vs WSH ($12.48 to win $6.57)

Labby lines for 6/5/11 look like this:
5.22 Clear
5.22 Clear
5.22 – 5.22 – 16.70
5.22 – 5.22 Clear
5.22 no bet
5.22 no bet

New Lines for 6/6
6.57
6.57
6.57 / 6.57 / 6.57
6.57
6.57
6.57

*you are betting to win 1st and last # on each line.
Start Date: 6/4/11
Record : 5-3
Profit: + $2.43

**pagodo** · 06-06-11, 05:42 PM

Thanks for the play, Wallco!

Shutout is tailing Texas, so I hope there won't be a sweep these next few days in Arlington.
Can't wait for tomorrow's plays.

Good luck, everyone!

**jolmscheid** · 06-06-11, 05:53 PM

Originally posted by thelimit0310

The only system you should tweak is JM NBA, by not playing A bets. His MLB and NHL A bets have a good winning percentage. Unless you labby line you will need to play the Puck and Run lines, they will cause a few extra losses each season.

Thanks thelimit...I assume I should still buy the points with the JM NBA system on the B and C bets only...I would probably buy 2 points as I cannot get 3 points for -170....

**thelimit0310** · 06-06-11, 05:56 PM

Originally posted by jolmscheid

Thanks thelimit...I assume I should still buy the points with the JM NBA system on the B and C bets only...I would probably buy 2 points as I cannot get 3 points for -170....

I don't have exact numbers but I did run JM NBA last season and I believe every time we needed the 3 points to come into play it was exactly by 3 points. Meaning you still would have lost if you had bought 2 for every game, I think with the exception of once or twice. This is why I labby the system and play at -110 or ML odds, my book has 3 points for over -170 as well, and I don't like that price for every game.

**jolmscheid** · 06-06-11, 06:02 PM

Thanks limit...I guess the labby is where it's at with JM's system...I think there is opportunity to just do a 2-game chase, but just don't know which bets would make sense to do that with as I don't have the past year's results and avg. odds....I do think that NOT buying points and NOT playing runlines and pucklines may be better with the labby to save on juice...