You couldn't be any more wrong. But thanks for acting like you know what you're talking about, even though you don't. I'll consider it what I wish, I don't need your input. It's amazing how brainless people can be, when we are playing a system that is the majority +money bets, yet people expect to have the same amount of losses as systems that play heavy favorites and big (-money) odds. I am not explaining it any more. I will post plays, if people want to play them go ahead, if not, I don't care. Even if I lose the next 5 series, I am playing it to the end, because I know the results that can be achieved. I ask nothing from anyone on here, and all that seems to come back lately is bitching and negativity from a select few. To the slow witted who need things posted fifty times before they get it, there will be losses, many more than you are used to with other systems, we are playing mostly +money bets, and all but one season ended very well. If you can't handle it, or it gives you anxiety, or if you have to run to the computer every 5 minutes to nervously check on your active (D) bet, find another system which plays all favorites or + 1 1/2 lines and hope you don't lose TWO SERIES and have a negative season over there.
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im confused on why voland said to take your money in run using the labby with the system I stated.
you stated at -110 odds you need 52% win % which is true when you are flat betting.
Please share with me how my math is wrong on my system. Labby should be able to take care of all the juice from overs / unders. Espcially when you are betting them both ways...
I started testing the first 8 days of may with overs / unders and it cleared 60 lines starting with 2 #s on each line.
Can someone please enlighten me what Voland is talking about? I'm not saying your wrong im just a little
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well talk wallco...
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Yes that's correct. I go form Sydney to Australia every 2 weeks at a time. So my office at the "McKesson" building is where you can find me 1/2 the month about 12 hours a day. I don't work for McKesson I have an office on the 25th floor. At lunch you can find me at Le Central on Bush St. . If you are in Sydney I stay at 199 George Street, NSW 2000. Just ask the Front desk to ring me. I will not give out my phone number but if you like send me a private msg and I will be happy to set up an appointment. I am honored that you would spend your time going through my posts. I'm really not that deserving and I really don't understand your point. As for my addresses it just so those people who obviously feel so much anger toward me as to personally insult me can do so in person. Thank you.Comment -
Austria! Well, then. G'day mate.. Let's put another shrimp on the barbieComment -
Will be updating with my bet amounts for JM in a bit since I won't be home tomorrow till late.
JM 10 - 0 so far (official, unofficial,"Pre-V3," and V3). Gotta love it.
BTW. Looking at the RPI difference between the Twins and Royals it looks like will be having a "Pre V3" play tomorrow since the difference is .036 right now in favor of the Royals. If the Twins lose right now which they're going to then it'll definetly be a Pre V3 play since the Royals beat the Angels today and that RPI difference will only increase.Last edited by stevex; 06-01-11, 08:41 PM.Comment -
I thought about one thing that could cut back on variance on my system. It would mean less profit long run I think, but it should work out fine.
SO basically start with 30 labby lines two #s each line (1/2 a unit each) For example with a $5 unit size labby lines would look like this:
2.5 / 2.5
2.5 / 2.5
2.5 /2.5
2.5 / 2.5
say it hits 50% You clear the first two lines and lose the bottom two lines.
so your new lines are
2.5 / 2.5 / 5
2.5 / 2.5 / 5
so now you have 6 #s on 2 lines. My last strategy was to replace the cleared line with another unit. Instead of suggest balancing the lines with the losses of the other lines until you cleared the 4 lines.
so $20 / 6#s = $3.33 average
so it becomes
3.33 / 3.33
3.33 / 3.33
3.33 / 3.33
I would then add more lines depending on how many more games there are. It is basically just averaging and balancing the lines with the #s and money left at the end of the day instead of adding more units to cleared lines. Obviously when you add more money to cleared lines it is going to increase the amount your risking.
I hope all that made sense. In my head it makes sense, but im not a labby expert. If "chilli Dog" was here i think he would be able to help me more with this strategy. I know he is some what of a labby expert.
I need more input on this strategy. I am looking to cut back on variance because the last 2 days was just horrible for me! I was betting ML favorites using 15 labby lines as well as only Overs.
Overs went 2-6 today and ML favorites are 14-23 last couple days. When you throw in the juice to that the .5% unit size is still down quite a bit. Again thats only based off a couple days. I was replacing cleared lines with another unit also, so that added to the variance.
I need to go on a heater make all the money back.Comment -
Updated Bankroll: $7,054.00
JM Record: 10 - 0 (Official, V3, and "Pre-V3")
Win/Loss Amount: +$2,054.00
Pending Series: 1
11. Kansas City Royals ML (will give you guys an exact number in an hour or so. Again this is a Pre-V3 bet)
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What are you talking about Lawalahmed? According to the unit count, even if both the bets lose tomorrow the system would still be up, how is that a failure? Although I do hope that does not happen, and I don't think there will be a single person on here who won't be hurting, 3-4 losses within a week is hard for anyone to swallow. Still, the results don't lie.
I wonder how common of an occasion a streak like this is in MLB Plus. We got to see how many losses there were but not how far apart.
Anyways, Well said Wallco!Comment -
I agree.. I am still a huge wallco fan though... just out of curiosity, how is everyone handling these? I am doing .3% per unit, and am feeling it.. has anyone been doing 1% or more? just curious how you guys are handling things, and if you have any money management strategies you are using to help lessen the hit.Comment -
I'm playing to the end as well. If you've followed the system from day 1 there were sick profits made in the first three (3) weeks of May, even though I've given most of it back to BetJM. We've hit a rough patch no doubt. But I don't have a doubt the System will show a profit at the end of the season. I think most of the frustration is not about the losses per se...but the sketchy teams that these losses are falling on. There's still alot of baseball to be played.
"A long journey begins with a single footstep"
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I am 9-1 and +10 units playing JM at M/L on dogs and -1 1/2 on favorites. I am dead even with traditional method of winning 1 unit per series at high juice and I have 1 loss. I am also never risking more than 7 units on any series. May not work in the long haul, but it's working for now. Washington winning last night got me to +10 units.Comment -
They call them prawns here. So if you ever come don't say shrimp because they get all "upidy" over it. They really don't like that commercial because Paul Hogan says Prawns. But it is geared toward Americans so I don't know what the hub-bub is. Anyway the US 7th fleet kept the commies out of here for over 40 years so we'll call them shrimp
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Just a side note regarding JM systems... I have been following him for four years now. I have always doubled my unit size whenever these two conditions are met: #1: the team we are betting on is home.. #2: the team we are betting on has a high RPI rating the the opposing team.
It does not happen that often, but I have found that series that fall under both of these conditions are much stronger plays, and I think they should be considered a different version then just V1. He should call these series V4
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I think he's just saying that if you bet every game ATS fav OR the overs that at the end of the season you'll be ahead because historically there will be many more. And use a labby. I don't us labby but straight up it would work. Couldn't bet big but it would be a nice side bet. Make a good % at the end.Comment -
I have been directed to try out baccarat since it has lowest house edge and just bet player / banker. This game is suppose to have lowest house edge, but they take 5% rake.
For those of you who do not know how to play baccarat its a simple high card game. They deal out 3 cards and high hand wins. Seeing how either player / banker wins every hand it should be 50% both ways long run minus rake.
I am considering running 1 labby line for the banker and 1 labby line for the player and see how it works out. I think averaging out the lines once it reaches a certain point will help, but balancing the lines might not be a good idea... or maybe it is.. idk.
I just wanted to get some advice on this game using a labby method before I started playing.
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Good stuff dlunc. Going to be placing my Pre-V3 in a bit since you can get the Royals at a great price.Comment -
This is the most updated list I have found that Hagball has posted... I have bolded the ones that I feel should be very strong plays based on the current RPI ratings and where the series will take place..
6/02 MIN @ KAN
6/03 CHW v DET
6/07 NYY v BOS
6/09 DET V SEA
6/14 DET v CLE
6/14 ARI v SFO
6/17 OAK v SFO
7/01 CIN v CLE
7/01 SDG @ SEA
7/04 STL v CIN
7/04 MIN v TAM
7/14 COL v MIL
7/14 BAL v CLE
7/22 SDG @ PHI
7/29 KAN v CLE
8/12 PIT @ MIL
8/12 ARI v NYM
8/15 SFO @ ATL
8/22 BOS @ TEX
9/09 PIT v FLA
9/12 HOU v PHIComment -
Ok boys better get this line while it's hot because it might skyrocket. Luckily I have BetOnline as an out and they put up there lines super early. Best of luck tomorrow!
Current Bankroll: $7,054.00
JM Record: 10 - 0 (Official, V3, and "Pre-V3")
Win/Loss Amount: +$2,054.00
Pending Series: 1
11. Kansas City Royals ML (-115) Pre-V3 Bet. $540.00 TO WIN $469.56Last edited by stevex; 06-01-11, 09:40 PM.Comment -
Arent the Twins the bet in the JM system vs. KC?Ok boys better get this line while it's hot because it might skyrocket. Luckily I have BetOnline as an out and they put up there lines super early. Best of luck tomorrow!
Current Bankroll: $7,054.00
JM Record: 10 - 0 (Official, V3, and "Pre-V3")
Win/Loss Amount: +$2,054.00
Pending Series: 1
11. Kansas City Royals ML (-115) Pre-V3 Bet. $540.00 TO WIN $469.56Comment -
I have been labby lining the system, which has helped my lost cash immensely. I started tailing just as these losses started popping up, I haven't been able to win with the system yet though I'm sure it will turn around. Instead of being out 30+ units and maybe being out another 30 units if tomorrows bets fail, i'm only out about 8-9 units total right now. And thank god for it too, because as I stated earlier, I had no profit cushion at all for these losses. They're going straight to the roll. At this point I just finished reorganizing my lines, had to add 2 numbers to the end of the line and divide the losses through them to make it easier to handle, because of this my bet size has barely gone up at all and it will only take 1 extra win on both lines to clear the lines entirely. Not too bad for someone who hasn't banked a winning day yet, and a testament to the durability of a labby! I would be in such deep shit if I was straight chasing.Last edited by thelimit0310; 06-01-11, 10:09 PM.Comment -
I would appreciate it as I'm sure a few other people would just so they know what they're in for. But I know you keep busy with the system and other things so it is entirely up to you. It's not necessary, but it would be nice if you can find the time.
If you do decide to post the occasions then thank you in advance!Comment -
JM PRE-V3 and V3
Ok I'll go ahead and explain this one more time even though it's been said time and time again in the thread. Not a matter though I'm more than happy to help you guys out. V3 or Version 3 of the JM MLB System is to bet on a team that did the sweeping the last series, loses the first game of the 2nd series, and has an RPI > than 0.25 the team they swept....
What we do with "Pre-V3," is capitalize on some series not getting to that V3 bet. So I'll use this Royals/Twins series as a perfect example since it fits. The Royals (as of tonight and I know it will be even a greater difference when it's updated) have an RPI 0.36 > than the Twins and they swept the Twins last series. So if the Twins win the first game the Royals will be a V3 play next game, but sometimes and this has happened a couple of times already this year, the greater RPI team (Royals) win the first game. So basically it's a "free," bet.
Sorry if I explained it weird, but hopefully you guys are following my bet amounts!Last edited by stevex; 06-01-11, 10:04 PM.Comment -
How's BetOnline as a sportsbook? I see they release their lines early, I'm currently using Sportsinteraction right now and it's not that bad with it. Any thoughts on it?Ok boys better get this line while it's hot because it might skyrocket. Luckily I have BetOnline as an out and they put up there lines super early. Best of luck tomorrow!
Current Bankroll: $7,054.00
JM Record: 10 - 0 (Official, V3, and "Pre-V3")
Win/Loss Amount: +$2,054.00
Pending Series: 1
11. Kansas City Royals ML (-115) Pre-V3 Bet. $540.00 TO WIN $469.56Comment -
Hi Walco,
Do you remember how you created chase 110 in N.B.A ? Just bcos you follow Prof. Rich Allen N.B.A and the guy lost a series within one week then you stop following even though the guy finished the season with profit........
I remember how you call the service bull shit despict the fact that you received it free....
The following week you start posting chase 110 under JM N.B.A thread...
To cut the story short, i'm not saying losing is not part of a system but back to back series lost within few days is not a good idea.... I just hope you survive 2morrow "D's" so that .........
But then stop using negative statment next time.....why will you say someone is "brainless" will you take that if i called you *******Last edited by lawalahmed; 06-01-11, 10:20 PM.Comment -
VARIANCE.
Will people ever understand that word in this forum?Comment -
Bugs. The same goes for any series you lose if you're not using proper money management, but if you look at the trend this year so far, the A bets have been killing it with JM's system. Regardless whether it's PreV3, Official, or Unofficial. That is why the Pre-V3 bet is such a great idea because you make extra money on a series that you wouldn't make a penny on (when the better RPI team wins that first game).
I know it's kind of confusing, but trust me, just follow.Last edited by stevex; 06-01-11, 10:27 PM.Comment -
Looks good. This is a strong play since Minnesota is dead last in rpi rankings so I am gonna increase my bet size for this as well. Good luck.Ok boys better get this line while it's hot because it might skyrocket. Luckily I have BetOnline as an out and they put up there lines super early. Best of luck tomorrow!
Current Bankroll: $7,054.00
JM Record: 10 - 0 (Official, V3, and "Pre-V3")
Win/Loss Amount: +$2,054.00
Pending Series: 1
11. Kansas City Royals ML (-115) Pre-V3 Bet. $540.00 TO WIN $469.56Comment -
This is not a system that will bankrupt you with 2 losses because of heavy juice lines!!!
I AM TESTING A PERSONNAL CHASE SYSTEM THIS YEAR AND EVEN WITH 2 (D) LOSSES ALREADY, MY SYSTEM IS STILL 22 UNITS UP BECAUSE IT IS BASED ON LINES THAT SHOWS LONG TERM POSITIVE EXPECTATION!
Go Wallco!
I know and understand what you are doing!
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