Cliff Lee vs Roy Halladay, game1 World Series.
ha.
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nulldah
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#3
Originally posted by rthoughton
Cliff Lee vs Roy Halladay, game1 World Series.
ha.
That will be one hell of a game
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Pauulzcappin
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#4
As always Phillies fans got their butthole tight to see the pinstripes rape them in the world series.
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Mikail
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07-19-09
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#5
Paulz admit it you Yankees fans are worried about Texas and Lee sending the boys from the bronx home early.
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thebestthereis
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03-01-09
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#6
The Yankees purposely choked the division so they wouldn't face the Rangers in round 1, that is an absolute fact. They won 72 straight vs Twins but now the Rangers will battle them.
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Pauulzcappin
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04-23-10
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#7
Originally posted by Mikail
Paulz admit it you Yankees fans are worried about Texas and Lee sending the boys from the bronx home early.
We have an advantage now because either he pitches on short rest sat or our ace will be facing their weaker pitchers.
even if he wins two we'll be in a good spot
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lakerboy
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#8
Originally posted by Mikail
Paulz admit it you Yankees fans are worried about Texas and Lee sending the boys from the bronx home early.
Not a chance bro. We aint worried at all. You want them to beat us cause you cant and you know that.
Look at the Texas starters - they will get ass raped by the yanks except Lee and he doesnt get to pitch 4 games. Yanks batters are patient and will work the count and get the starters out and toast that shitty rangers bullpens.
Yanks in 5 or 6.
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fury
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02-20-10
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#9
Lee vs Lincecum Game 1 Mmmmmm...
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Pauulzcappin
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#10
Originally posted by lakerboy
Not a chance bro. We aint worried at all. You want them to beat us cause you cant and you know that. Look at the Texas starters - they will get ass raped by the yanks except Lee and he doesnt get to pitch 4 games. Yanks batters are patient and will work the count and get the starters out and toast that shitty rangers bullpens. Yanks in 5 or 6.
COuldn't have posted it better.
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nulldah
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01-27-10
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#11
lee can probably get 2 win out of 2 for the rangers (that is, if washington can learn when to pull lee out the game before yankees give him one big inning), for the other 2, rangers must really rely on their batters.
and i can't wait to see how mo will face the rangers. Needless to say, rangers own him in regular season, but post-season Mo is different animal.
But as far as the series goes, you can say giraldi is WINNING now (i hate to say it). You see how they playing around late season to get the wild cald, then sweeping twins. Those two things basically give them more than enough rest. Then, they match rangers with rays, their more troublesome opponents and let them go bang each other with 5-game series. credit must be given to giraldi or whoever that thought of this plan, really
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Mikail
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#12
Originally posted by lakerboy
Not a chance bro. We aint worried at all. You want them to beat us cause you cant and you know that.
Look at the Texas starters - they will get ass raped by the yanks except Lee and he doesnt get to pitch 4 games. Yanks batters are patient and will work the count and get the starters out and toast that shitty rangers bullpens.
Yanks in 5 or 6.
Your right about one thing. I will root for the Rangers in the ALCS but I'm not worried if it's the Yankees who will face the Phillies in the world series. Still have too get passed the Giants even though that should not be much of a task. I do think the Giants are capable of taking a game from the Phillies.
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rthoughton
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1992
#13
I think youre wrong on this one. I think the Yanks' starters after the Ace are weaker. CC on the road vs Wilson is less of an advantage than than you think.
I don't necessarily think the Rangers can win, I just wouldn't expect to get past them easily. This is going to be a decent series. A much tighter matchup than the one on the other side.
Both of these teams have good pitching. Both of these teams have good lineups. Both of these teams have some speed. Yanks have Rivera, sure. But wasn't he struggling finishing the year? weren't there rumblings of him reaching the end?
Kinsler is hitting and Cruz is really hitting.. Hamilton is there. I think the Rangers have the better pitching in this series. Ill give the offensive edge to the Yanks. and they can have the 'pen, too.
Just don't expect a breeze. not with a homefield in the shit-star state.
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Pauulzcappin
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#14
Did Rangers win any game at home in this postseason?
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lakerboy
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#15
Originally posted by Mikail
Your right about one thing. I will root for the Rangers in the ALCS but I'm not worried if it's the Yankees who will face the Phillies in the world series. Still have too get passed the Giants even though that should not be much of a task. I do think the Giants are capable of taking a game from the Phillies.
NO the phils are great for sure but if they couldnt beat NY last year they arent this year. They exchanged Lee for Halladay and its still questionable if Roy can replace Lee's two ws wins versus NY. I know you boys added Roy Oswalt but i dont think the yanks are scared of him and the phils bullpen is brutal to say the least. The yanks isnt much better but i like the fact that we start in philly and get a split and then come home for 3 games.
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rthoughton
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12-27-09
1992
#16
and let me make this clear: I WANT TO PLAY THE YANKS. period.
It just popped into my head about an hour ago that NO ONE was talking about a possible Lee @ Halladay opener. That may be the theater MLB is looking for to up the audience from 09. ~~ for those of you into fixed events.
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rthoughton
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12-27-09
1992
#17
Originally posted by lakerboy
NO the phils are great for sure but if they couldnt beat NY last year they arent this year. They exchanged Lee for Halladay and its still questionable if Roy can replace Lee's two ws wins versus NY. I know you boys added Roy Oswalt but i dont think the yanks are scared of him and the phils bullpen is brutal to say the least. The yanks isnt much better but i like the fact that we start in philly and get a split and then come home for 3 games.
Yankee fans quickly pointed to the fact that "you cant expect to win the WS with only one pitcher," which was the reason for the Phils' loss last year. This year chief, we have BY FAR the best pitching in the playoffs. Not sure if you remember last season or not, but the Phils had Cliff Lee and head case Hamels. This year, not sure if you were paying attention, they have added a couple of pieces. And, oh yeah, Hamels might be the best one on the team. he's baaack.
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rthoughton
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12-27-09
1992
#18
How is the Phils' bullpen brutal again? I think Lidge and Madson have combined for like 6 earned runs since July. And the Phils' staff just 11-hit the "best offense in the NL." Lowest total in three game series history?
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Pauulzcappin
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#19
Hamels can prob give us more trouble than both Roys, but how will Phillies lefty stacked lineup do against the biggest winning pitcher in postseason?
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lakerboy
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#20
Originally posted by rthoughton
Yankee fans quickly pointed to the fact that "you cant expect to win the WS with only one pitcher," which was the reason for the Phils' loss last year. This year chief, we have BY FAR the best pitching in the playoffs. Not sure if you remember last season or not, but the Phils had Cliff Lee and head case Hamels. This year, not sure if you were paying attention, they have added a couple of pieces. And, oh yeah, Hamels might be the best one on the team. he's baaack.
UUHMM if you read my post i said you exchanged Lee ( who beat ny 2 times) for roy. i mentioned you added oswalt but the yanks have no concern with him. btw the yanks have no one besides CC according to all the pundits but Andy is still the best proven big game pitcher in the playoffs with more than a 6 game size sample. You have names no doubt about it. Lets see what happens, hope to meet you there.
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Mikail
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#21
Originally posted by lakerboy
NO the phils are great for sure but if they couldnt beat NY last year they arent this year. They exchanged Lee for Halladay and its still questionable if Roy can replace Lee's two ws wins versus NY. I know you boys added Roy Oswalt but i dont think the yanks are scared of him and the phils bullpen is brutal to say the least. The yanks isnt much better but i like the fact that we start in philly and get a split and then come home for 3 games.
Everyone knows the Phillies lost last year was a result of deficient pitching. Especially in the pen. Those problems seem solved mostly other than a some what questionable bullpen that has shown signs of improvement. Honestly I wouldn't mind a rematch of last year. It would be even sweeter if the Phillies can beat the Yankees and not only win the world series but avenge last years defeat.
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rickbo528
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#22
Rangers will have a tough time now against the Yanks because of "Home Field Disadvantage".
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lakerboy
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#23
Originally posted by rthoughton
How is the Phils' bullpen brutal again? I think Lidge and Madson have combined for like 6 earned runs since July. And the Phils' staff just 11-hit the "best offense in the NL." Lowest total in three game series history?
How many post season games did those Reds players have under there belts going into that series?
The yanks hitters are the smartest in baseball and the lineup never ends plus they have loads of experience. the phils have a great hitting team as well.
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Rixsaw
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#24
Lee will dominates the Yanks again.
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nulldah
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#25
and just from this thread and recent espn yanks n phils game message board, i can see how both teams fans start discussing how their starting pitchers, bullpens, lineup matchup which is kind of funny
rangers and giants can easily cause 6-7 game series. They are not pushovers at all. At best, upset is certainly possibility.
Just saying. and i will probably get another bashing from both fan base
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lakerboy
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#26
Originally posted by Pauulzcappin
Hamels can prob give us more trouble than both Roys, but how will Phillies lefty stacked lineup do against the biggest winning pitcher in postseason?
No worries. Yanks have held him back and he will be motivated to pitch. Its all psychological with yanks. Even if he pitches bad it wont matter cause the yanks are never out of a game and that is something texas will have in the back of there mind all the time. They didnt have that worry with TB.
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nikevols
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#30
Yanks Phils rematch...Texas will give the Yanks some fits but not enough...Phils plow through SF
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Mikail
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#31
Originally posted by nulldah
and just from this thread and recent espn yanks n phils game message board, i can see how both teams fans start discussing how their starting pitchers, bullpens, lineup matchup which is kind of funny
rangers and giants can easily cause 6-7 game series. They are not pushovers at all. At best, upset is certainly possibility.
Just saying. and i will probably get another bashing from both fan base
Good point. I can say it's possible the Rangers and the Giants are capable of winning a game or two.
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jakeandba
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01-13-09
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#32
very interesting thread,, perhaps it should have been titled, why play any play offs and just put Yanks and Phillies in the World Series.
Granted Game 1 vs Cinn, Halladay pitched great....but Game 2, Cinn did and was able to jump on that starting pitching...On the road, scoring 4 runs in the first 5 innings is huge.
The last time I watched a game it is played by players who make mistakes this is to include managers also. Scott Roland was able to make this point. For some unexplained reason, he forgot the fundaments that got him to this level. Another example is an outfielder losing the ball in the lights.
Regarding tonights game, the same can be said. With Cruz in motion going from 2nd to 3rd, the catcher throws to the outfield, thus allowing Cruz to score. Even the first run scored by the Rangers with the lack of defensive attention by the pitcher, allowing the run to score.
I am not so sure superior pitching by either the Yanks or the Phillies can account for that.
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jsmithj88
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12-27-08
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#33
lets be real, the phillies pitching wont be challenged until they face some1 from the AL
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ShowMeDaMoney
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#34
Originally posted by lakerboy
Not a chance bro. We aint worried at all. You want them to beat us cause you cant and you know that.
Look at the Texas starters - they will get ass raped by the yanks except Lee and he doesnt get to pitch 4 games. Yanks batters are patient and will work the count and get the starters out and toast that shitty rangers bullpens.
Yanks in 5 or 6.
Red Sox fan here, beyond the bet I placed on NYY to win the ALCS (at start of season) I'd like nothing more than to say they were in trouble against Texas. Truth of the matter is, they are in a real good spot to go to the World Series. Lee on short rest or unavailable until game 3 is not going to work out well for them.
If you're New York, you're far more comfortable facing Texas\Lee in a seven game set than you are the crap shoot that is a five game series. Yankees playing extremely good ball right now, doing all the little things right... working pitchers, being aggressive, good pitching.... and god damn, just hitting the f*cking ball like the mad men they are.
They do not give you a single second to take a breather on defense, and that just wears teams out. I do not see Texas winning more than two games in this series. A Yankees\Phils World Series repeat seems to be in the making... but anything can happen!
What a series we'd be looking at with Philly and New York. That's got a seven game classic series written all over it if it happens. By far the two best teams in baseball, just all around complete teams from top to bottom. Both pens could use work, but that's always the case during the playoffs... one extra reliever would make a world of difference. For Philly, if they can't get Lidge to show up in a seven game set against New York, it may be problems.