Two best plays on the board Monday

mvp123 · 08-23-10, 12:01 PM

what about detroit and atlanta , i like em both

Pauulzcappin · 08-23-10, 12:01 PM

If you wanna grab COlorado might as well do it now.

WiseGrumpy · 08-23-10, 12:02 PM

Braves FF is the bet in my eyes ...
The best bet is the RedSox and with the price the Reds are close second

LolsMcwinsey · 08-23-10, 12:03 PM

Tell me why you like Colorado

pokerpro44 · 08-23-10, 12:03 PM

i like reds and rockies.gl.

Pauulzcappin · 08-23-10, 12:04 PM

I have Atlanta and I feel my best is toasted already, not hedging though.

Going against the RLM ftw.

LolsMcwinsey · 08-23-10, 12:05 PM

Hudson has been roughed up @ COL his last 2 starts. But if I am correct that was in 2005 and 2006.

WiseGrumpy · 08-23-10, 12:06 PM

Betting against Hudson now is insane ...

LolsMcwinsey · 08-23-10, 12:07 PM

I am on him. Just saying I think that is why the line is dropping.

Pauulzcappin · 08-23-10, 12:09 PM

Hammel has strong numbers at home and Colorado is way better at home than away.

WiseGrumpy · 08-23-10, 12:10 PM

True that is why the UNDER also looks strong here.

No coincidences · 08-23-10, 12:11 PM

Originally posted by LolsMcwinsey

I am on him. Just saying I think that is why the line is dropping.

No, it's not. Sharps wouldn't necessarily bank on Hudson's stats from 4-5 years ago.

LolsMcwinsey · 08-23-10, 12:12 PM

Then why do you like Colorado?

No coincidences · 08-23-10, 12:14 PM

Originally posted by WiseGrumpy

Betting against Hudson now is insane ...

I've made a ton of $$$ backing Hudson this season. He's been as solid as they come.

WiseGrumpy · 08-23-10, 12:14 PM

some more:
Hudson (14-5, 2.15 ERA) is 5-0 with an 0.82 ERA in six starts since losing to Milwaukee on July 17
Hammel is 0-2 with a 12.66 ERA in three starts versus Atlanta, and given up 12 runs and 17 hits in 4 2/3 innings of his last two outings against the Braves.

Hudson didn't play agianst CO since 2006

No coincidences · 08-23-10, 12:17 PM

Originally posted by WiseGrumpy

True that is why the UNDER also looks strong here.

I'd be careful with the under.

Both teams have fared pretty well at the plate in relatively limited at-bats vs. the other's pitcher.

No coincidences · 08-23-10, 12:17 PM

Do you think Huddy will lose again this year, WG?

LolsMcwinsey · 08-23-10, 12:20 PM

Braves 6-1 last 7 Game #1s, 5-1 last 6 v West, 9-3 last 12 overall, Hudson 6-0 last 6, 4-1 on Mon; Colo 2-7 last 9 vs winning teams, 5-14 last 19 RHP, 2-4 last 6 overall, Hammels 2-5 Game #1s, 1-6 v East

WiseGrumpy · 08-23-10, 12:21 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Do you think Huddy will lose again this year, WG?

No reason he will. Super solid and his team is simply one of the best, mostly at home.

LolsMcwinsey · 08-23-10, 12:21 PM

Why do you like Colorado?

SolidDala · 08-23-10, 12:27 PM

Hudson I like, but won't back him on the road against COL, Lackey I just don't like backing, especially at this price even against SEA.

Pauulzcappin · 08-23-10, 12:27 PM

No Coin, if you put Colorado as your top play, I'm sure you can explain to us why you like it so much.

SolidDala · 08-23-10, 12:30 PM

The only thing I see is that Hudson ain't great against them, but going against him after pitching this good its kinda ballsy

LolsMcwinsey · 08-23-10, 12:30 PM

Why do you like Colorado?

Pauulzcappin · 08-23-10, 12:31 PM

Originally posted by SolidDala

The only thing I see is that Hudson ain't great against them, but going against him after pitching this good its kinda ballsy

Last start was in 2006

No coincidences · 08-23-10, 12:32 PM

Originally posted by Pauulzcappin

No Coin, if you put Colorado as your top play, I'm sure you can explain to us why you like it so much.

Hammel's home record, Rockies in a key home spot to start a series, series price, RLM, Huddy's pitching style not conducive to Coors Field....

WiseGrumpy · 08-23-10, 12:33 PM

I think it's Braves or pass ... Rockies are good at home, but again Hudson is close to perfect and the Braves are better.

SolidDala · 08-23-10, 12:34 PM

Originally posted by Pauulzcappin

Last start was in 2006

funny, well thats what I get when checking the stats in a rush. Well a guys form 4y ago don't mean much today

limitation · 08-23-10, 12:35 PM

Rockies good home record with 38-20, Braves not so good road record with 29-34. Yes, Hudson has been great so far this season but there is no such thing as guarantee win. Remember what happened a few days ago when Waino (the best day pitcher in baseball) matched against Randy Wolf (gas can)? The whole board was on Cardinals and a lot of people got burned. It's not possible for Hammel and Rockies to beat over Braves. Rockies hit very well at home and Hammel has been pitching very good at home (6-1, 3.36 ERA).

Pauulzcappin · 08-23-10, 12:36 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Hammel's home record, Rockies in a key home spot to start a series, series price, RLM, Huddy's pitching style not conducive to Coors Field....

Hmm... Hudson has better #'s away than Hammel at home. Rockies are toast, they don't have any chance to win the Pennant race or clinch the wild card. I agree with the RLM but Hudson has been lights out and getting a lot of groundballs, not as many flyballs.

Pauulzcappin · 08-23-10, 12:37 PM

Originally posted by WiseGrumpy

I think it's Braves or pass ... Rockies are good at home, but again Hudson is close to perfect and the Braves are better.

Usually when you say that and doesn't touch the game the other side wins.

No coincidences · 08-23-10, 12:37 PM

If Hudson is ATL's ace, the Braves are the superior team and all of the stats point to him here, why are they only -119?

Hudson hasn't been below -120 since mid-July, when he pitched against the Mets in NY. Why would he be -119 against a mediocre pitcher and a mediocre team?

Pauulzcappin · 08-23-10, 12:38 PM

Opened at -130

No coincidences · 08-23-10, 12:39 PM

Originally posted by Pauulzcappin

Hmm... Hudson has better #'s away than Hammel at home. Rockies are toast, they don't have any chance to win the Pennant race or clinch the wild card. I agree with the RLM but Hudson has been lights out and getting a lot of groundballs, not as many flyballs.

Huddy's a contact pitcher. He has about 90 K's in 170 IP if I'm not mistaken.

Contact pitchers tend to struggle at Coors.