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  • MonkeyF0cker
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 06-12-07
    • 12144

    #36
    Originally posted by statnerds
    the gift that just keeps on giving. not only do emotions destroy constructive discussions, but egos as well. keep up the good work.
    This isn't a constructive discussion. It's a fukkin moronic one and I don't have much respect for idiots.
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    • lyon804
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 11-02-09
      • 6526

      #37
      For anybody that is reading this argument here between these two posters.... What we have here is two highly intelligent social misfits getting into a pissing match over a bunch of nothing. How about you two donkeys take your show to the PZ and piss for awhile.
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      • MonkeyF0cker
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 06-12-07
        • 12144

        #38
        How about you go fuk yourself instead?
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        • statnerds
          SBR MVP
          • 09-23-09
          • 4047

          #39
          Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
          This isn't a constructive discussion. It's a fukkin moronic one and I don't have much respect for idiots.
          wow, how many ways can i say it?




          have to wait until 1:44 of this clip:

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          • statnerds
            SBR MVP
            • 09-23-09
            • 4047

            #40
            Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
            Get it yet, genius?
            so you missed post #34 where i thanked you for proving my point?

            cool your jets there roscoe

            pump the brakes there slick
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            • durito
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 07-03-06
              • 13173

              #41
              Originally posted by THE PROFIT
              do the math & see how much you would make hitting 64% at -150, or even -130
              pretty much all the money there is.
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              • MonkeyF0cker
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 06-12-07
                • 12144

                #42
                Originally posted by statnerds
                so you missed post #34 where i thanked you for proving my point?

                cool your jets there roscoe

                pump the brakes there slick
                Umm. What was your point again? That people shouldn't blindly bet all the favorites? Gee. Not that I actually believe you weren't being straight-forward to begin with, but are you shocked that there isn't a parade for your candy ass? You had to save AT LEAST ZERO people from that disaster!! Thank God for YOU!!!
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                • durito
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 07-03-06
                  • 13173

                  #43
                  between statnerds and bigdaddyDA, this board has really stepped it up in my absence
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                  • statnerds
                    SBR MVP
                    • 09-23-09
                    • 4047

                    #44
                    Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
                    You had to save AT LEAST ZERO people from that disaster!! Thank God for YOU!!!
                    so every poster on this board is a seasoned and accomplished gambler then? not one single poster makes a bad play or a bad decision. you have so raised the knowledge of every poster on this board that not one single poster makes a mistake.

                    how many posters here on SBR? amazing you guys educated everyone of every pitfall there is in betting. and you did with complete humility. bravo to you sir.

                    i think it is the humble fashion in which you provide retorts without actually comprehending what was written that draws people to you.

                    it only took you 5 responses before you figured out what was really going on, and then when you finally took your seat on the short bus, you decided to attack the driver. as if it was my fault your safety-helmet wearing ass kept going to the wrong stop.

                    classic.
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                    • statnerds
                      SBR MVP
                      • 09-23-09
                      • 4047

                      #45
                      Originally posted by durito
                      between statnerds and bigdaddyDA, this board has really stepped it up in my absence
                      man, this might be your most insightful post i have ever read. i mean other than those countless posts of winners you posted for the board. and the many posts you take to patiently help newcomers to betting out with math concepts. or the constructive criticism you offer when people present ideas that run opposite of accepted beliefs.

                      oh wait, you do none of those things. just run your mouth and hide behind a keyboard.

                      stay classy
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                      • Stealinhome
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 10-23-09
                        • 977

                        #46
                        For the last time yes yes yes!
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                        • floridagolfer
                          SBR MVP
                          • 12-19-08
                          • 2757

                          #47
                          I don't know what the exact year-by-year stats are, but I think you'd be hard pressed to see a year when the winning percentage of MLB favorites strayed very far from 54-55 percent.
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                          • smartmoney
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 03-13-10
                            • 8

                            #48
                            blindly hammer underdogs
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                            • TheLock
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 04-06-08
                              • 14427

                              #49
                              All kidding aside, blindly hammering any side is -EV
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                              • juuso
                                SBR MVP
                                • 10-04-05
                                • 2896

                                #50
                                Blindly betting anything is -EV, but taking faves is no worse than blindly betting dogs, which many beginners seems to be doing. You'll likely stay afloat slightly longer randomly betting faves than dogs.
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                                • CashMoney27
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 03-15-10
                                  • 253

                                  #51
                                  Keep it going
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                                  • INVEGA MAN
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 01-30-08
                                    • 6800

                                    #52
                                    i love betting dogs myself
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                                    • TheBet
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 02-07-10
                                      • 395

                                      #53
                                      I like green eggs and ham
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                                      • donjuan
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 08-29-07
                                        • 3993

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by statnerds
                                        man, this might be your most insightful post i have ever read. i mean other than those countless posts of winners you posted for the board. and the many posts you take to patiently help newcomers to betting out with math concepts. or the constructive criticism you offer when people present ideas that run opposite of accepted beliefs.

                                        oh wait, you do none of those things. just run your mouth and hide behind a keyboard.

                                        stay classy
                                        Why does every retard act like those who have a clue not only owe them something but also should hold their hand every step of the way?
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                                        • donjuan
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 08-29-07
                                          • 3993

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by juuso
                                          Blindly betting anything is -EV, but taking faves is no worse than blindly betting dogs, which many beginners seems to be doing. You'll likely stay afloat slightly longer randomly betting faves than dogs.
                                          You're more likely to be up over small sample sizes from betting dogs than favs. Also you should probably check out how +200 and higher dogs in MLB have performed historically.
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                                          • rfr3sh
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 11-07-09
                                            • 10229

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by donjuan
                                            You're more likely to be up over small sample sizes from betting dogs than favs. Also you should probably check out how +200 and higher dogs in MLB have performed historically.
                                            i made a thread about this in the HTT but no one replied
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                                            • Sam Odom
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 10-30-05
                                              • 58063

                                              #57
                                              Sounds good to me. You need a bookie?
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                                              • lakerboy
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 04-02-09
                                                • 94379

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by donjuan
                                                You're more likely to be up over small sample sizes from betting dogs than favs. Also you should probably check out how +200 and higher dogs in MLB have performed historically.


                                                classi example is my sorry ass mlb thread- i refuse to bet vig faves and just bet spot dogs and i have made a few bucks.
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                                                • rfr3sh
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 11-07-09
                                                  • 10229

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                  classi example is my sorry ass mlb thread- i refuse to bet vig faves and just bet spot dogs and i have made a few bucks.
                                                  the only thing that scares me is there fukkin bullpens
                                                  when Houston put in there Releiver with a 10.0 ERA i was like wtf is coach thinking
                                                  surely enough he let the cubs back in, but houston sneaked the win
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                                                  • ZetaPsi808
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 09-18-08
                                                    • 12119

                                                    #60
                                                    if the favorites keep winning, the books will overcompensate in the next days lines by juicing up the favorites even more
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                                                    • UntilTheNDofTimE
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 05-29-08
                                                      • 9285

                                                      #61
                                                      62% aint shit when the avg fav is around -130
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                                                      • 2daBank
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 01-26-09
                                                        • 88966

                                                        #62
                                                        so this whole thread was to warn ppl not to blindly bet every fav on the board?

                                                        fuk me i got a headache, great job ace you have outdone yourself, what a public servant you are...im sure you have saved countless bankrolls
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                                                        • THE PROFIT
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 11-27-09
                                                          • 17701

                                                          #63
                                                          Shit like this is why Justin wants to put a common sense combination lock on the think tank!
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                                                          • stingyrivers
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 01-15-08
                                                            • 1240

                                                            #64
                                                            simple answer to this... NO and you know that by how you posed the question....

                                                            there is over 60 years of backtesting to prove this would lose...

                                                            the sample size you are using is way to small to mean anything but a short run cluster of wins...

                                                            not to mention if there is anything to this at all, it is due to a trend in baseball the past 3 years where home teams are winning at a noticeably higher percentage than ever before...

                                                            also, vegas will catch up to it if they havent already in inflating the lines, but I believe they already have with the huge numbers daily on the line this past week...

                                                            and finally... the to date record you tallied with a win rate of 62% is maybe break even at best when you factor in the math of the juice you had to lay on the 38% that lost...

                                                            playing all favs all year long you would probably have to clear 65% win percentage to show a long term profit when you account for always laying the juice
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                                                            • juuso
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 10-04-05
                                                              • 2896

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by donjuan
                                                              You're more likely to be up over small sample sizes from betting dogs than favs. Also you should probably check out how +200 and higher dogs in MLB have performed historically.
                                                              That might hold true for MLB, but generally, in efficient markets, blindly betting faves over dogs increases chances of staying even or making small profit over small sample games. Of course, blindly betting anything you'll lose your shirt sooner or later.
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                                                              • PAULYPOKER
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 12-06-08
                                                                • 36581

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                                so this whole thread was to warn ppl not to blindly bet every fav on the board? fuk me i got a headache, great job ace you have outdone yourself, what a public servant you are...im sure you have saved countless bankrolls
                                                                Originally posted by THE PROFIT
                                                                Shit like this is why Justin wants to put a common sense combination lock on the think tank!
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                                                                • BigJ
                                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                                  • 11-14-09
                                                                  • 369

                                                                  #67
                                                                  I think (in theory) that he is partially right. That is if you "chase" those teams. I know, I know how most people feel about "chasing", but there is short term value in it at times. I'm not so sure about teams below -150, but if you take GOOD teams (Phillies, Yanks, etc..) and they lose, then raise your bet to cover your loss and get your additional unit back on the next game and so on and so on...
                                                                  I'm just saying that a GOOD team isn't going to lose 4 or 5 or 6 games in a row. Yes, Juice will hurt and will make for large bets, but you can make a little short term money here.
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                                                                  • PittsburghPlayer
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 01-11-10
                                                                    • 6760

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Stat, stop talking about it and get down to it. Let us know how it turns out.
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                                                                    • statnerds
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 09-23-09
                                                                      • 4047

                                                                      #69
                                                                      motherfukkin favorites are up over 18 Units this season.

                                                                      i could begin to explain how amazingly abnormal that is, but it would invite unsavory people into the thread. it would give away data covering 13,000+ MLB games, and who would want to do that?
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                                                                      • statnerds
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 09-23-09
                                                                        • 4047

                                                                        #70
                                                                        +26.39 Units

                                                                        last time favorites finished up for a season?
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