Better Starting Chi-Town Pitching staff

Chi_archie · 04-20-10, 09:54 AM

cub starters 3.53 ERA
Sox starters 5.16 ERA

Rio DiNero · 04-20-10, 11:33 AM

Originally posted by Chi_archie

cub starters 3.53 ERA
Sox starters 5.16 ERA

It is a shame, both of these teams are in trouble. Cubs starters and closer have been solid, but they have no middle relief to get Marmol the ball. Sox bullpen is shut-down and the best in the league, but their starters can't give them the ball with a lead.

BadFinger · 04-20-10, 11:44 AM

starting staffs equal if judge by last couple seasons. sox have less offense this year and better relief pitching than cubs is bigger differences.

yisman · 04-20-10, 12:07 PM

White Sox don't have a good lineup at all, but their starting pitcher is better, IMO, regardless of the stats a few games into the season.

Plus, the Sox are in the AL.

Chi_archie · 04-25-10, 08:08 AM

cubs starters stats were better for the past 4 years...... guys like Lilly and Dempster get very little respect. and guys like floyd and danks seem to get too much respect for Potential....

Chi_archie · 04-28-10, 09:07 AM

cub's starters now under 3 in the era department

yisman · 04-28-10, 10:09 AM

Archie, the supposed ace for Chicago got demoted to the bullpen along with his $19 million a year because he had an ERA of about 16.

Chi_archie · 04-28-10, 10:15 AM

doesn't matter..... the cubs have 5 other guys who are performing beautifully, and killing the Sox starters thus far..... big Z will be back by July 1 at the latest, not sure I want him back though.....

How is Peavy's adjustment to the AL goin?

Bob Loblaw · 04-28-10, 11:01 AM

You can't judge it based on era because of the disparity of leagues. You keep bringing up Peavy's move to the AL but at the same time talk highly of Lilly. It wasn't long ago when Lilly was a below average pitcher for 8 years in the AL until his move to the NL. It wasn't long ago when many would consider Carlos Silva the absolute worst pitcher in baseball and now he's putting up stellar numbers since moving to the NL. The White Sox have the better staff regardless of what the era says right now. Its really not even close imo.

yisman · 04-28-10, 11:04 AM

yeah, a better metric is ERA compared to the league average.

The Cubs face much weaker lineups.

Chi_archie · 04-29-10, 02:48 AM

so far this year the AL has a better ERA on avg than the NL.....

I mean we are talking about the Sox playing over half their games vs the twins, tigers, Indians, and Royals..... its not like they are in the AL east....

Chi_archie · 05-25-10, 09:01 PM

over 1/4th of the way through...

not counting tonight... which has been great for the cubs and bad for the sox

Cubs ERA 3.97
Sox ERA 4.83

might be a full run difference after tonight.....

Zambrano returning to the rotation soon, as well.... lets see how that goes

suckerforparlays · 05-25-10, 09:09 PM

If I ever post a play with the White Sox included just FADE my fking ass I hate them im always on the wrong side with them in the Over Unders. I never no when there gonna show up and hit the ball

Chi_archie · 05-25-10, 09:10 PM

to be fair sucker..... BOTH chicago teams have been very enigmatic this year and unpredictable

Chi_archie · 05-26-10, 04:53 PM

cubs 3.86
sox 4.92

Brock Landers · 05-26-10, 05:02 PM

Cubs play in the little league, white sox play in the big leagues

stealthyburrito · 05-26-10, 05:27 PM

ate my words, and am glad too. now if ramirez and lee would wake the fukk up already.

Chi_archie · 05-27-10, 03:34 PM

national league and american league hitters have identical stats this year

Brock Landers · 05-28-10, 11:51 PM

Randy Wells not helping the effort today

Brock Landers · 05-30-10, 11:03 PM

this has to be getting close archie

dynamite140 · 05-30-10, 11:48 PM

Peavy is overrated pitcher.

suckerforparlays · 05-31-10, 12:39 AM

Originally posted by Chi_archie

to be fair sucker..... BOTH chicago teams have been very enigmatic this year and unpredictable

yes yes very true hahahaha

but anyways Carlos Silva says eat it bitc hes

Chi_archie · 06-11-10, 06:45 AM

Entering head to head cross town classic....

Cubs starter's era 3.96

Sox starter's era 5.09

chance for the sox to make up some ground now

HoulihansTX · 06-11-10, 07:37 AM

Peavy is better than Randy Wells no matter how you look at it.

pat venditto · 06-11-10, 07:43 AM

Cubs no doubt.

Chi_archie · 06-11-10, 08:40 AM

Originally posted by HoulihansTX

Peavy is better than Randy Wells no matter how you look at it.

oiler · 06-11-10, 08:48 AM

as bad as there pitchers are definetly love the over in every game.there bullpens both suck and should be some runs scoring plus who cares about them with our hawks doing to parade today

Chi_archie · 06-14-10, 11:01 PM

sox with a slight edge in the classic...

Cubs starter's era 3.91
Sox starter's era 4.87

Chi_archie · 06-24-10, 12:36 PM

tightening up a bit, as the sox starters start to hit on all cylinders

Cubs 3.94 ERA
Sox 4.57

sox have pulled to dead even essentially on BB/9 Cubs lead in all other categories

Chi_archie · 07-12-10, 01:52 PM

Brock this is getting very tight, I hope it goes down to the last week...

losing Peavy for the year might be the difference...

ERA

cubs 4.03
sox 4.19

BAA
cubs .255
sox .258

Whip
cubs 1.29
sox 1.29

k/9
cubs 7.58
sox 6.38

Brock Landers · 07-12-10, 01:57 PM

Archie, there is NO WAY they Cubs have a better pitching staff than the sox, only thing i can see is because the numbers are skewed do to being in the AL...Cubs are a pile of garbage

Chi_archie · 07-12-10, 02:10 PM

the bet was based upon the numbers..... skewed or not, you have to take that all into account

yisman · 08-22-10, 11:39 AM

Still say Sox have a better staff.

Brock Landers · 08-22-10, 11:40 AM

i'd say this bet is money

yisman · 08-22-10, 09:03 PM

archie stopped bumping it.