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  • Razz
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-22-05
    • 5632

    #1
    Saturday Plays
    I hate outsmarting myself. Here I tout Bedard as the most underrated pitcher in baseball for the past couple months and while I don’t have anything particular against Blanton, I’ve faded him with some success this year. So of course I take Blanton -106 against Bedard. What else would I do? Still won about half a unit because of the outrageous price tag on the Royals. A lot of musical overtones in the pitchers I am rolling with on Saturday.

    Medium:

    Giants (Lincecum) @ Brewers (Bush) Under 9 -120
    The worry here would seem to be Bush getting rocked. Four things alleviate that concern:
    1. He has been much stronger at home, both this year and throughout his career.
    2. His recent form (5-1, 2.88 ERA, 1.19 WHIP)
    2. He is facing an inept offense that will likely be without Bonds.
    3. The current Giant hitters have had little to no success against him in the past:

    Aurilia 1-6, K, .167
    Bonds 1-6, 2 K, .167
    Durham 0-4, K, .000
    Feliz 1-7, HR, 3 K, .143
    Frandsen 1-4, .250
    Molina 1-6, .167
    Sweeney 0-1, .000
    Vizquel 1-12, 3 K, .083
    Winn 2-11, 3 K, .182
    Total: 8-57, 1 XB hit, 13 K, .140 BAA.
    Lincecum had a really bad start at Miller Park earlier this year, giving up 6 ER in 4 IP. But he only gave up five hits, so I’m not too worried about a repeat performance. His control and efficiency have picked up since Bochy threatened to remove him from the starting rotation after that game. In four starts since then, he has pitched 26.1 IP, given up 15 hits, 12 BB, and 4 total runs.

    Braves -130 (Carlyle/Looper)
    Here is rjt’s writeup, which basically says it all. The only thing I would add is that Carlyle challenges hitters, so it won’t be a walk parade, and I don’t think STL has the lineup, starter, or bullpen to be this short an underdog here.


    Light:

    Pirates +105 (Maholm/W-Rod)
    Wandy Rodriguez as a road favorite with this lineup and bullpen behind him is a joke. He’s 1-6 with a 7.45 ERA, 1.66 WHIP, and .312 BAA on the road this year. Maholm has been pitching better - he’s been either decent or good in his last 9 starts. If the Pirates can score 4 or 5 here - and against W-Rod, that would seem more likely than not - I like their chances.

    White Sox +161 (Danks/Gabbard)
    I wouldn’t be surprised if either team won this game 8-2. Danks is having a weird season, very hit or miss, but he has more overall potential than Gabbard, who has been for the most part doing it with smoke and mirrors this season. Even with an inferior bullpen and lineup, I think the White Sox are good to win this matchup at least two out of five times, which is more than enough to turn a profit at this line. Ortiz is likely out, so that’s a plus, but really this is a fade of a stumbling team and average pitcher laying an exorbitant price.

    Royals +235 (JdlR/Verlander)
    This just in. The Royals are playing well. They’re 19-13 recently, and they’ve got a pitcher who has fared well against the Tigers in his two starts against them. They also have a large bullpen advantage. Now, Verlander’s career numbers against KC make this only a small play, but I feel he is an overvalued pitcher in general, and particularly against what people perceive as a hapless team.

    Strong leans - waiting on line movement, lineups, additional info, etc. in these games. May pass all of them again, as was the case Friday (luckily it seems, unless the Dodgers rally).

    D’Backs
    Nationals Over 8.5
    Padres

    Of course feel free to chime in opinions, tell me why I should play the leans or why I shouldn’t. I was impressed with some of the stuff posted yesterday. By the way, I don’t know how many of you read SI, but there is some very good stuff in this week’s issue, most notably an article detailing why Putz’s season is all-time impressive, and Reilly’s article on Bonds. It’s worth the $4 or whatever a single issue costs.
  • AC1318
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 10-09-06
    • 6712

    #2
    with you on wsox and braves
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    • WestsidePete
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 07-19-07
      • 8049

      #3
      One thing with Verlander. He's very good vs average or below average teams. This year, hasn't allowed more then 2 walks in a game against teams at or below .500 since April. Also, 14-18 starts given up 3 runs or less...the four that scored 4 or more are MINN - 2 SEA 1 and CLEV 1...all winning teams. He's also 2-0 vs KC this year, and they just got whipped tonite at home. I'm thinking the team will be focused and he'll come thru again. If Ortiz is out, I like the selection.
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      • onlooker
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 08-10-05
        • 36572

        #4
        Razz, good luck on Saturday.

        Again, I only have one for the day, and that is the Reds +130.
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        • babaoriley
          SBR MVP
          • 12-11-06
          • 2316

          #5
          On Braves heavy. You make a compelling case for the under of that SF game, so maybe I'll play it. But that KC game is trouble, even at that price. I'd roll with Det RL... I think it's a rout tomorrow. Best of luck, as always, Razz, but play that KC game small if you play it (like .0000000000001 units)... Hey man, go for broke if you feel it. The price is right and as TB showed us tonight, baseball is a sport that is fickle... Hope you hit them. I'm rolling Braves (3 units), SF Under (1/2) and A ChiCubs/LAD RL (for both) parlay for 1/2 unit. We'll see what I get tomorrow on that one.

          EDIT: Low winds and a nice day make Hill a very strong favorite to me. I love the kid when he;s confident. Even at his price, I like him. Maybe a 7-8 IP 1-2 ER outing.
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          • BatemanPatrickl
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 06-21-07
            • 18772

            #6
            Razz, I think you nailed your picks last night. Great job.
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            • Razz
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 08-22-05
              • 5632

              #7
              I don't know guys, maybe I'm crazy, but I really think KC is going to at least make it competitive tonight. Good luck on your respective Reds, Dodgers/Cubs plays gentlemen.

              I'm surprised Owings is pitching so well. AZ was a lean of mine at +158, but the influx of money on them I didn't really understand.

              Anyway, I added a small play on the Padres -107 at matchbook. To recap, that's two medium plays and four light plays. There's been a lot of confidence/cockiness in the forum lately, and that's fine. I hope everyone is confident they are making a strong play every time they place a bet. But I'm not much for guarantees. All I can guarantee is that even if these plays go 0-6, my money management and hopefully yours will still leave me able to go to sleep tonight.
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              • onlooker
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 08-10-05
                • 36572

                #8
                Originally posted by Razz
                But I'm not much for guarantees. All I can guarantee is that even if these plays go 0-6, my money management and hopefully yours will still leave me able to go to sleep tonight.


                Excellent statement, and I hope everyone here is in the same situation.
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                • rjt721
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 02-06-07
                  • 7929

                  #9
                  I like the Pads myself in the matchup of 73-year old pitcher's. Moyer's been hit hard in each of his last three road starts, and even if he's on, he's not much of a threat to go past six innings, making the likes of Romero and Mesa entering the game at some point a very real possibility. Wells has always pitched well at Petco, and Howard and Utley are far less effective against LHP (.234, .286 respectively). I also like the addition of Milton Bradley in the middle of SD's lineup, as it gives Gonzalez some much needed protection. I was actually liking SD a bit when they opened at around -125, so now that the line's moved in my favor, I will also be playing the Pads tonight.

                  Good luck Razz.
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                  • onlooker
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 08-10-05
                    • 36572

                    #10
                    I think your pretty much betting on the bullpens in that Padres/Phillies match up. I one, would want to be on the side of the Padres bullpen.

                    Good luck on it guys.
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                    • Doc JS
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 09-15-06
                      • 6885

                      #11
                      Razz,
                      Followed you on the Giants/Brewers under.

                      Congrats on the win!

                      (even if it did get a little dicey in the 9th! )
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                      • babaoriley
                        SBR MVP
                        • 12-11-06
                        • 2316

                        #12
                        Yep, Razz, you convinced me to play that SF Under straight and in a parlay. So far, so good... But yeah, it was getting dicey, especially since I had -8.5. Phew...
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                        • MJFtheGenius
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 05-31-07
                          • 7257

                          #13
                          Yo Razz I was wondering where do you get the pitcher vs hitter stats from?
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                          • moses millsap
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 08-25-05
                            • 8289

                            #14
                            Nice job, fading STL the rest of the season would probably be a +EV strategy.
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                            • babaoriley
                              SBR MVP
                              • 12-11-06
                              • 2316

                              #15
                              And the Bravos take care of business, handily! That was huge for me today. Razz, the Braves were honestly my biggest play for tomorrow before I read your writeup, though your writeup was still nice reinforcement. As a lifetime Braves fan (I have 2 Dale Murphy signed jerseys hanging upstairs) i have a good feel for this Braves team... Carlyle in severely underrated, and the young no-name bats (Harris, Johnson, Escobar, Diaz, Saltalamachia) are really coming along, fitting in nicely with Renteria, Chipper, McCann and Francouer. If Andruw Jones gets going these guys have a spectacular lineup. Add in a radically improved bullpen (tonight notwithstanding), and some under-appreciated starters like Carlyle, James to go with Hudson and Smoltz and this team can be really good.

                              Congrats though, Razz, and nice writeup. I'm glad we were on the same page.
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                              • Razz
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 08-22-05
                                • 5632

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Doc JS
                                Razz,
                                Followed you on the Giants/Brewers under.

                                Congrats on the win!

                                (even if it did get a little dicey in the 9th! )
                                Originally posted by babaoriley
                                Yep, Razz, you convinced me to play that SF Under straight and in a parlay. So far, so good... But yeah, it was getting dicey, especially since I had -8.5. Phew...
                                Jeez, no kidding, crazy 9th inning with two infield singles, walk to the pitcher, and then Durham doing what he does best, get a hit and RBIs once the game is decided.
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                                • Razz
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 08-22-05
                                  • 5632

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by MJFtheGenius
                                  Yo Razz I was wondering where do you get the pitcher vs hitter stats from?
                                  A lot of places have it, but I find yahoo's the easiest to navigate. I just search for "Dave Bush career stats" or whatever. Click on batter vs. pitcher, and then "Since 1987". The other stuff, game log, split stats, etc. is worth a look too.
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                                  • MJFtheGenius
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 05-31-07
                                    • 7257

                                    #18
                                    Thanks razz, i searched it on google and yahoo was the first that came up , I needed for the phills game tonight
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                                    • BatemanPatrickl
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 06-21-07
                                      • 18772

                                      #19
                                      Nice plays again Razz. I enjoyed the Braves win!!!
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