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  • Willie Bee
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-14-06
    • 15726

    #1
    Cubs and Mets clash in New York
    Cubs and Mets clash in New York

    In the end, 29 teams will be disappointed they didn't win the World Series. But no two teams have been bigger busts this year than the Cubs and Mets with their combined $280 million team payrolls.

    While trying to dig up info on just who the Mets might throw in Game 2 of this series, I happened to stumble through their MLB.com team site and come across a story on their Sunday game promotion which is a wine tasting in the Empire Party Suites. The first thought that popped into my head was wondering whether or not both Chicago's Lou Piniella and New York's Jerry Manuel might be on hand to drown a few of their sorrows after what might be the two most disappointing seasons in the majors for 2009.


    God I love this photo!

    My goal a week or so back was to close the season picking games that involved the truly worst of teams, purposely looking for series and individual contests that involved a pair of sub-.500 squads. But there are none of those series on the weekend's slate, and despite the Cubs being above .500 right now by two whole games, there might not be a better series than this one as far as describing disappointing, underachieving, losing teams.

    Plus I have a strong distaste for both of these teams from old stubborn prejudices and ignorance, so it will be sort of fun to talk about them as losers. My therapist says that is good for me, so it's even healthy.

    Now granted, the Cubs are still in the playoff hunt just six games out of the NL Wild Card. Six games ain't no big thing...but climbing over four other teams to get there is. And with the four teams ahead of Chicago right now – Marlins Braves, Giants and Rockies – all being non-NL Central foes, it makes it tougher. The Cubs do have what might be a huge four-game series in San Francisco three weeks from now, but otherwise they have little control on beating the teams ranked just ahead of them for the best runner-up of the Senior Circuit.

    The Mets? They're done, boy are they done. I've developed a bit of softness for the Amazin's in recent years having met many a good Mets fans in my travels. And in fact, ever since I started buying futures on them, they have become the Underachievin's, so I do take a little pride in that.


    Jerry Manuel does his Alfred E Newman
    'What, me worry?' impersonation

    The Cubs come into New York after a Thursday afternoon shutout loss at Wrigley to the White Sox in a makeup game. Their offense has been slow, 10 runs in the last five games, but the arms have been getting it done for the most part since they were cracked in a 15-6 loss on Aug 25.

    New York's just a mess right now, losing nine of their last 12 and four of their last six after getting out of Colorado on Thursday with an 8-3 win that kept them from a being broomed. Heads gotta' roll here; the injuries have been incredible this year, but you can't run payrolls like this even as the stepchild in the Big Apple market and keep falling short.



    The pitching matchups for this set make it a very difficult three-game series to get a handle on. Chicago has the definite edge, but at the same time the matchups are funky, check it out:
    • Friday -- You've got Crazy Charlie Z against Bobby Parnell, with both arms hammered in the series between the two last weekend in Chicago. Zambrano took the loss in a 4-1 game on Sunday, lasting just 3.1 and giving up 11 hits, three earned runs. Parnell was bombed on Saturday, an 11-4 Cubs win (4.2 IP, 8 ER).
    • Saturday – Now that the Mets have made the call to pitch Nelson Figueroa in this one instead of some dude named Undecided, we have more of a clue how to analyze the game. Or do we? Rich Harden goes for the Cubs.
    • Sunday -- Two young hurlers making their first starts against their respective foe. Randy Wells is throwing well. How well? Well let me tell you: When a starting pitcher earns 15 straight decisions and has a sub-3.00 ERA on the season, they are throwing well. Mike Pelfrey, well, he's not throwing so well, certainly not as well as all those swell preseason publications trumped him. Oh well.
    I hate the -240 price I’m getting on the Cubs to win the series, especially since I hope they don’t win the series and this trip to NYC becomes the nail in their 2009 coffin. But I don’t see how the Mets can take two of three, at least they shouldn’t take two of three, given the pitching matchups. Still I’ve got to make a small play n the Cubs in the series, just too much of a pitching advantage over a team that sucks too much right now. Also going to play the Over 8½ in Game 1. I'm also really keen on following Sunday's game and betting it somehow once the first two games are in the books and I see some numbers.

    PITCHING MATCHUPS
    Game 1, Fri, 7:10 p.m. (ET): Carlos Zambrano (14-8, 3.91) vs. Bobby Parnell (1-4, 5.81)
    Game 2, Sat, 1:10 p.m.: Rich Harden (11-12, 4.19) vs. Nelson Figueroa (1-3, 4.50)
    Game 3, Sun, 1:10 p.m.: Randy Wells (12-9, 2.90) vs. Mike Pelfrey (13-13, 5.03)

    WEATHER
    There's going to be a 10%-20% chance of rain in and around Queens this weekend, but nothing that will wash a game out entirely, and probably nothing that will even cause much of an in-game delay. Should be upper-70s and muggy on Friday eve, nothing to fret yourself with regarding the wind. Saturday afternoon should be nice, lots of sun and temps climbing to about 82ºF (27ºC), and Sunday maybe a few more clouds and a few degrees cooler for the afternoon high.
  • konck
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 10-17-06
    • 12554

    #2
    Here's whats really bad for Met fans!!!!
    The Mets ....Minaya has already been asked back for next year....that in itself is amazing. Then he turns the dagger even more when after the Mets say he is the man next year by saying.....Manuel is my man he will be back. Oh wait if that didn't make you wrench, the Wilpon's came back with.....Next year our goal will be to cut payroll we would like to get down near the 120 mill a year mark (it's like 154 this year) So here we are the METS one of the biggest markets in the USA and we are saying.....Lets steal a chance from our fans to be good......Lets bring back Minaya who hasn't done crap, well he does go out and finds washed up players to pay 1 million to for another year (mostly Dominican). Lets bring back Manuel who has zero clue on how to handle pitchers....I mean he is the single worst in the majors there. Yes I really cant wait for next year, my hope is we sign Jose Lima again thats the guy I called FREE BET because every time he pitched I bet the Run Line against him (never lost) Our other 1 mill bonus guys were Hit Rockets off me Redding, Freddy I'll gladly Take 1 mill Garcia, Livan I Need Mental Help Hernandez. Nice job Wilpons we as Mets fans are very excited about next year now. I may switch to rooting for the Nats.
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    • konck
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 10-17-06
      • 12554

      #3
      AL who's 1-2-3 in salary
      Yanks
      Angels
      RedSoxs

      NL who is 1-2
      Mets
      Cubs

      WTF happened????
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      • Willie Bee
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 02-14-06
        • 15726

        #4
        konck, don't you be dissin' my man Livan 'Quarter Pounder' Hernandez

        I think the Mets are No. 2 and Cubs No. 3 on the overall MLB payroll chart. Can blame some of Mets troubles on the plethora of injuries, and all of the reports about the Mets/Wilpon's getting the shaft in the Madoff aftermath. But after two seasons coming up short the injuries sort of ring hollow given all the rope that Minaya has had...and apparently hung himself with. Hard to believe he's coming back.

        As for the Cubs, they've also had a few injuries that set them back. But they really have underperformed this year. Not sure how much focus the front office really had with the sale of the club in the works all season. But still, they tossed a ton of money out the last 2-3 years and simply have not cut the mustard on the field.

        Speaking of plethora...
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        • jjgold
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 07-20-05
          • 388179

          #5
          Going with dog here

          GL, nice write up
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