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  • Willie Bee
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-14-06
    • 15726

    #1
    How to fix the All-Star Game
    How to fix the All-Star Game

    Is the Midseason Classic really broke, or does it just need a tune-up? Here's how the All-Star Game would be if it was played in Willie World, replete with a look at the broadcast and the concessions.

    It's the one image of Bud Selig that will always stick with me. There have been many defining moments during Selig's tenure as MLB commissioner, and by defining I do not necessarily mean in a good way.

    Eventually the man -- this former used-car salesman that stole the Pilots from Seattle who has presided over the shadiest of eras in a sport that's got more shady than a 200-year old oak -- will be remembered for all that he has done for baseball. He will be lauded on the stages for his contribution to the National Pastime and probably will be inducted into the sports hallowed museum up in Cooperstown, NY.

    But the one moment that defined his commissionership to me was the one in which he threw his hands up in the air and confessed his total incompetence for the position he held. And then he proved it by making a silly exhibition game in the middle of the season something more than it really is.

    I've been to two All-Star Games in my life, and loved both of the events. I've also been to a couple of Harlem Globetrotters productions and equally enjoyed myself. Let's start with the fact the All-Star Game shouldn't count for anything. Give the World Series home field advantage to the pennant winner with the best record. How hard can this be? Baseball has already been mailing out postseason tickets early to the LDS and LCS rounds without knowing which team with what record will be playing.

    Aside from that, here are a couple more ideas I have for making the Midseason Classic better.

    Fan voting to include pitchers, selections not automatic starters
    Why is it that MLB trusts its fans to select a shortstop or a catcher or a center fielder, and not a pitcher? This has always bugged me. Give fans the opportunity to select their favorite pitchers in addition to the position players.

    However, fan selections should not get the automatic starting nod. Leave that up to the manager to decide the starting lineup.

    The DH
    Not a fan, no sir. But if there's a game that it works better in than the All-Star Game, I sure can't think of it. Use the DH in all ASG's, regardless of where they're played.

    Take more relievers
    Starting pitchers just aren't the big thing they used to be, let's face it. It's almost gotten to a point that you're in awe of a starter that goes seven innings as we see more and more 5-6 inning starts with each passing season.

    Limit the All-Star rosters to 5-6 starters and take 7-8-9 relievers. There's a 33-man roster for the 2009 game, and with relievers working a good third and more of the games now, they deserve to be represented with more arms for this type of game.

    No more Buck and McCarver
    No way, no how, no sir. We're going to rely on a single play-by-play voice for the game and be a bit more respectful to the flow of the game If I could, I would somehow record the voices of Ernie Harwell, Gene Elston and Vin Scully and then be able to reproduce them for the call of each and every MLB game.

    More of the ads will be subtle in the corner of the screen, maybe get a guy like Kenny Mayne to do some spots in the crowd with strategic product placement.

    The National Anthem
    Anyone who has ever appeared or even considered appearing on American Idol is disqualified from performing in any major league park. Also, no yodeling there at the end of the song. I defy anyone to show me where Francis Scott Key scribbled in his notes, "Yodel here."

    $1 Hot Dogs
    This would be a rule for all baseball games if we really were in Willie World. Just your basic dog with mustard, onions and relish. It should never cost more than a buck, and for what the fans at Busch on Tuesday are being raped for their tickets just to get in, they deserve a break on the dogs.
  • DrStale
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 12-07-08
    • 9692

    #2
    Agree with almost all of it, I still like to see more starting pitchers than relievers however. They face the same hitters several times a game and have to be smarter than relievers do whil eating up the innings.

    This might be biased but I'd love tosee Bob Uecker involved in every all star game as well.

    Love the fan voting for pitchers. No idea how this got started the way it did, it's like voting for the offense in the Pro Bowl and letting the coaches pick the defense.
    Originally posted by Dark Horse
    If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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    • tacomax
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 08-10-05
      • 9619

      #3
      Originally posted by Willie Bee
      That photo never gets old.
      Originally posted by pags11
      SBR would never get rid of me...ever...
      Originally posted by BuddyBear
      I'd probably most likely chose Pags to jack off too.
      Originally posted by curious
      taco is not a troll, he is a bubonic plague bacteria.
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      • nosniboR11
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 09-02-08
        • 10042

        #4
        good post Willie,
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        • TodaysAction
          Restricted User
          • 08-01-08
          • 12762

          #5
          If I were given the authority to make changes for this game, they'd be as follows:

          * Move the game to SATURDAY

          * Start it 4:00pm local time

          * Use the DH in AL cities and not if NL hosting cities

          * Limit players to no more than 3 innings or they get an at bat (less pitchers when in AL cities) or pinch run and every player must play in the game.

          * Each team should be limited to five (5) players with the rooster set at 30


          That would make the game more enjoyable and then it could go back to the team with the better record would be the 'home team' for the World Series.
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          • Reload
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 03-23-08
            • 12249

            #6
            Some good ideas here, Willie!
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            • Shortstop
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              • 01-02-09
              • 27281

              #7
              Used-car salesman to the Commissioner of Major League Baseball. That's a nice career move.
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              • reno cool
                SBR MVP
                • 07-02-08
                • 3567

                #8
                Like the idea of all-star game meaning something. Even better if it would mean more.
                agree with toning down the excessive commentary and $1 hot dogs.

                Sooner or later people will realize that baseball like other sports is just a game. And games are better played than watched. They can't expect to raise prices on this stuff indefinitely.

                Biggest problem in sports is the constant movement of players from team to team. I find it hard to care about a team with different players all the time. Put restrictions on trades and free agency.
                bird bird da bird's da word
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                • pico
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                  • 04-05-07
                  • 27321

                  #9
                  i always thought the all star games are fixed.
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                  • curious
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                    • 07-20-07
                    • 9093

                    #10
                    I thought you meant FIX the game.....

                    As in fix the outcome of the game. Dang, I am very disappointed.
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                    • Shortstop
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                      • 01-02-09
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by pico
                      i always thought the all star games are fixed.
                      Originally posted by curious
                      As in fix the outcome of the game. Dang, I am very disappointed.

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                      • Willie Bee
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 02-14-06
                        • 15726

                        #12
                        Originally posted by pico
                        i always thought the all star games are fixed.
                        pico, I'm curious as to why you've long believed that to be true?
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                        • Reload
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 03-23-08
                          • 12249

                          #13
                          $1 hot dogs should especially be a must at any baseball game. They make enough on beer and would still make decent profits on the volume of dogs sold.
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                          • TheLock
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 04-06-08
                            • 14427

                            #14
                            Good post Willie. Totally agree about Buck/McCarver.


                            No way World Series home field advantage should be determined by who wins the ASG.
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                            • konck
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 10-17-06
                              • 12554

                              #15
                              Hey the grizzlies have dollar nights hot dogs and cokes and peanuts all 1 dollar yeah there smaller but who care i take the kids walk in an order 10 of each ahahahhahahah.
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                              • milwaukee mike
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                                • 08-22-07
                                • 26914

                                #16
                                let's talk about some of these points intelligently:
                                1) the fans at busch aren't being "raped" for ticket prices. in milwaukee in 2002 i paid $350/strip face for the week, a comparable location is about the same face value this year.
                                the proof is in the pudding - when $75 face tickets are going for over $400 on the secondary market, major league baseball "could" have charged $400 for those tickets but didn't.
                                2) comparing an all-star game with our/our children's heroes like pujols, fielder, jeter, etc to a harlem globetrotters "game" is completely ridiculous. i would much rather see pujols hit a home run off a top-tier pitcher than see a globetrotter bounce the ball off the head of a washington general buffoon.
                                if you want clowns go to the circus.
                                3) have you been to a baseball game with 40,000+ attendance and $1 hot dogs? i have and the concession lines aren't pleasant. i would rather pay $3-4 for that hot dog than miss an hour of the game waiting in line for it. if you can afford the ticket you can afford the hot dog. if not, bring your own food in - they allow carry-ins except bottles, cans, and alcohol.
                                4) there are many popular and talented singers that have appeared on american idol. yes the show has a bunch of talentless wannabes, but it also has cranked out daughtry, david cook, kelly clarkson, carrie underwood, and jordin sparks. i certainly wouldn't mind seeing and hearing carrie underwood sing the national anthem.
                                5) at the time, and in person at the 2002 all-star game i was a bit upset at the "ending". but it was similarly unacceptable to have the game end after 1:00 am last year. however, playing it on a saturday would eliminate normal weekend games which of course bring higher attendance to a lot of teams that need it. so no easy answer here, can't really start it at 6:00 eastern because west coast would be 3:00 on a weekday.

                                otherwise some good opinions and thank's for allowing me to play "devil's advocate" and side with selig/major league baseball. they are currently cleaner than probably any other sport. and just look at milwaukee where in a city of 600,000 and a huge unemployment/poverty problem the brewers are drawing 3 million fans/year.
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                                • pico
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                                  • 04-05-07
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Willie Bee
                                  pico, I'm curious as to why you've long believed that to be true?
                                  always my belief that it is easier to fix exhibition games than real games. no body would care if jake peavy pitched 5 hrs in the 1st inning during spring training.
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                                  • Willie Bee
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 02-14-06
                                    • 15726

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                    otherwise some good opinions and thank's for allowing me to play "devil's advocate" and side with selig/major league baseball. they are currently cleaner than probably any other sport. and just look at milwaukee where in a city of 600,000 and a huge unemployment/poverty problem the brewers are drawing 3 million fans/year.
                                    LOL Well I'm not sure how many good opinions were left after your devil's advocacy exercise, but you're welcome.

                                    They way I look at the long lines at the concession stands is it means there are that many less people who can stand up in front of me and block my view or annoy me all game long yapping on their cell phones.
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                                    • milwaukee mike
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                                      • 08-22-07
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                                      #19
                                      what was left:
                                      - fan voting pitchers
                                      - dh
                                      - more relief pitchers vs starters
                                      - no more buck/mccarver

                                      pretty much i agree with your first 4 opinions out of 6.

                                      and now that you explain the hot dog idea further i agree with that one too!
                                      i have season tickets in the front row (of the upper deck) at miller park, so nobody is in front of me THANK GOD! but there is still often a parade of nincompoops around that like to wave at people on the other side of the stadium while they talk to them on a cell phone. as if the world revolves around them and their jackass buddies.

                                      i am continually amazed at the number of people that go out in public with absolutely no sense of how to behave. i guess it's the product of a couple generations of divorced parents, no parents, parents that both work too much to care for their children, etc etc
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                                      • Willie Bee
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 02-14-06
                                        • 15726

                                        #20
                                        Sounds good Mike. I used to love our seats in the upper deck of the old Astrodome, cocked just to the 3B side of home. It was great not having anyone in front of us. Miss that old stadium and those seats.
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